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Firearm Industry Sets Sights on Young Hunters

By Jessica Pupovac, AlterNet. Posted February 28, 2007.


Motivated by a nationwide decline in hunters, industry-sponsored hunter's education classes are enticing record numbers of kids to take up the sport.
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The firearm industry is on the hunt for young shooters. While the National Rifle Association has a long history of reaching out to the Boy Scouts, 4H clubs and other youth organizations, it is only recently that the industry's efforts have taken shape and gathered momentum in schools across the country, with rifle teams and hunter's education classes enticing record numbers of youngins to take up the sport.

The push is likely motivated by a decline in the number of hunters nationwide. From 1982 to 2001, the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife reported a 22.2 percent drop in licensed hunters. However, by reaching out to lawmakers, concerned sportsmen and state park and wildlife agencies across the country, the industry is managing to reclaim its political and financial future from "anti-gunners," as they call them, with a clear message: "When introducing kids to hunting, earlier is better."

"Studies show that it's harder to introduce children to hunting the older that child gets," says Bill Brassard, managing director of the National Shooting Sports Foundation's (NSSF) Department of Safety and Education. The NSSF is the firearm industry's largest trade association. A "State of the Industry 2007" address from NSSF President Doug Painter, posted recently on their Web site, focuses almost exclusively on the need for young recruits and the association's wide-ranging efforts to reel them in.

One measure of the campaign's success has been the infectious growth of the association's Scholastic Clay Target Program, which organizes skeet and trap shooting contests for elementary to high-school-aged kids. Backed by direct donations from major ammunition and firearm manufacturers including Remington, White Flyer and Berretta, the program boasted 8,300-plus participants in 41 states last year.

"We see it as a gateway sport," said Josh Sugarmann of the Violence Policy Center, a DC research and advocacy organization. "The goal is to get the kids hunting and buying firearms." The average hunter, according to NSSF data, spends $17,726.59 on hunting equipment in his or her lifetime.

A second element of the campaign is the promotion of Hunter's Education programs -- both in and out of schools -- through supplying state park and wildlife agencies with program grants and instructional materials.

"The kids think it's neat. They like anything that's new and interesting and different," said John McNeil, the principal of Lincoln Junior High in Plymouth, Indiana. Although the school has introduced hunting during PE classes off and on for years, it wasn't until last fall that it became a formal seminar -- a move that caught the attention of some parents.

Aimee Falls described being "shocked" and "offended" when she looked in her 13-year-old daughter's schoolbag to find a copy of "Today's Hunter." She tried to rally other parents to speak out against the class, with limited success, and called the local media.

"This class teaches them how to use the gun, how to load the gun," she told reporters, "I do not feel comfortable with them knowing this information."

Principal McNeil responded by promising that parents will be asked to give their consent in the future.

In spite of parent concern, Indiana Department of Natural Resources Conservation Officer Ken Dowdle, who teaches the hunting course at Lincoln Junior High, said he has noticed a growing interest in hunting classes: "There probably isn't a county in Indiana that doesn't have it in at least one of their schools."

Classes are becoming more and more prevalent throughout the country, as well. The March issue of Guns and Ammo reported a new program getting off the ground recently in Juneau, Alaska in Floyd Dryden Middle School's sixth-grade class, while in Kansas, the Department of Wildlife and Parks has recently developed a 'Hunters Education in our Schools' program, devoted entirely to creating and promoting the classes in public schools. The effort includes matching hunter's education to state curriculum standards, so that it can easily fit into PE, science or even shop classes.

In Kansas, class instruction includes having students use computer games and either live firearms or Lasershot rifles -- firearms that have been converted to shoot lasers instead of live rounds.

In other places, such as Dowdle's class in Indiana, guns are out of the question. Dowdle limits his props to the Hunter Education books, an occasional defunct or disassembled rifle, and hunting videos -- a popular teaching tool in Indiana and other states. The NSSF creates many of the videos used in hunting classes and shipped over 7,500 last year alone.

Though their teaching methods may be different, conservation officers say they have the same goals in mind: teaching the value of wildlife management for those who choose not to hunt and teaching safety to those who do.


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Jessica Pupovac is an adult educator and independent journalist living in Chicago.

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Some Positive News For Once
Posted by: edith on Feb 28, 2007 1:25 AM   
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At least kids have positive alternatives to sitting on their butts, ignoring Nature and thinking that the real world is on a computer screen, and will develop an interest in environmental protection that suburban lassitude considers "boring".

Good for the NRA and other organizations that teach people to be more self sufficient and aware of what the world is really about.

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» And it will be great for Posted by: russianblue1
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» RE: How did my steak get on my plate? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: How did my steak get on my plate? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» What ill effects? Posted by: freedomhawk
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» Read the article Posted by: freedomhawk
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Hunting is good
Posted by: Intraspecto on Feb 28, 2007 2:50 AM   
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1. IF (and I mean a BIG if, cheney had taken some of these hunter safety courses he would not have had the accident he did...
2. Teaching children about firearms is the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. Sooner or later, one of them WILL come into contact with any number of the 220 million guns in this nation. It is better that we are proactive so that they may learn safety.
3. It may help these youngsters in the future to know how to shoot a weapon, whether it be for self-defense (a person is a fool to trust the police) or in case of an issue of national defense. (God knows we are not the most popular right now....)
4. It gives people a sense of reality. having to kill something and eat it is a heavy dose of reality for many of us. It was with my first hunt, and I have a greater respect for what I harvest, and certainly do not do it for sport.
5. It shows that with responsible teaching and ethical understanding, the anti-gun folks have nothing to stand on...

Personally, I stopped hunting and farm at this point in time. I do not feel the need to kill something in the wild when I raise and butcher my own meat, and grow foods from my organic garden. As far as the anti-gun idiots are concerned, look it up. Keeping firearms is a necessity in this nation, and always will be, due to the right and responsibility of keeping our government in check- not to mention a constitutionally protected freedom and a natural right of man to be able to defend ones self...

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Columbine
Posted by: candara on Feb 28, 2007 3:32 AM   
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Great, now we can look forward to Columbine situations where the kids are excellent shots.

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» RE: Columbine Posted by: freedomhawk
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Firearm education
Posted by: freedomhawk on Feb 28, 2007 3:49 AM   
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The hunter's safety courses are an excellent idea for children. Hunter safety teaches these children responsibility, safety, and appreciation for our natural resources. I am glad that the NRA and NSSF exist; those organizations tirelessly works to ensure that the rights of all americans are preserved.

I wish that the author had dealt more with the conservation aspect of hunting. These hunting courses teach the children about the important role that hunters play in controlling animal populations. Without responsible hunting, animal populations can grow uncontrollably because the natural predators no longer exist. The Department of Natural Resources (DNR) carefully monitors hunting activities to ensure that all hunters obey the laws and that no animal population is over-hunted.

Hunter safety is not merely about gun safety; it is more importantly about conservation. The next generation of hunters will ensure that we Americans are responsible about our natural resources.

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» RE: Firearm education Posted by: chrisp.
NRA Wants Kids on Its Side for the Future
Posted by: soyicecream on Feb 28, 2007 3:57 AM   
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Another important issue for the NRA is to gain future public support. Even though it may not gain a lot of future hunters or even members, the NRA may gain more future supporters for their political positions through programs like these. Most organizations know that if they can create positive associations with kids for their offerings, those feelings can last a lifetime.

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» Guns Shoot Both Ways Posted by: edith
» RE: Guns Shoot Both Ways Posted by: soyicecream
Hunting isn't (or should not be) sports
Posted by: Swatopluk on Feb 28, 2007 4:24 AM   
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In my opinion hunting is justifiable only under 2 conditions
1. It keeps/restores the natural balance that has been disturbed by human acitivity (e.g. removal of the natural predators).
2. The animal is killed for consumption as food etc.
[Clarification: self-defense against a predator is not hunting]

Hunting because it is fun to kill (like e.g Cheney does) is in my opinion deeply unethical, and I know no true hunter that does not despise the mere "shootists" who are in it for the thrill and the trophies only.

In a gun-mad culture as the US I consider it wise to teach children gun security and the ethical behaviour that goes with it (where there is no gun tradition, I'd vote against it).
On the other hand I have no sympathy for the described attempts to lure children into the use of guns in order to make them customers of weapon/ammo manufacturers or to increase the political clout of the NRA.

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What is wrong with this?!?
Posted by: David V on Feb 28, 2007 4:33 AM   
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If fewer children were riding bikes, would we squawk about an outreach program to get kids into the sport? What about chess?

Then why the outrage over hunting? Ah, because you don't PERSONALLY care for it, and therefore you don't want anyone ELSE to do it?

How very REPUBLICAN of you all.

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» RE: What is wrong with this?!? Posted by: russianblue1
the NRA wants to sell more guns
Posted by: SteveBreeze on Feb 28, 2007 4:42 AM   
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that is the NRA's prime motive, and has been for a long time, since their primary funding likly comes not from membership but from the arms industry itself.

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» a little context Posted by: freedomhawk
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Neanderthal Activity
Posted by: Windwhistler on Feb 28, 2007 4:43 AM   
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Hunting is a Neanderthal activity. I know of no redeeming feature for it. OK, I'm a bleeding heart. I grew up in Texas and had a .22 in high school. I very nearly shot my friend due to shoddy design and construction of a US brand rifle. Shooting wild animals soon made be depressed and I gave it up. I look upon it as a very sad era in my life. Also, most of the serious hunters I've met obviously need a shink. It is quite a restful thing to live in Japan, where I live, where people simply don't have firearms except for a rare few who are highly regulated and a few gangsters. Basically the gangsters are only worried about other gangsters. I think this shows that guns are like a cancer. One causes another to appear and so on.

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be prepared
Posted by: solrev on Feb 28, 2007 5:12 AM   
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The sad thing, and the real reason there are fewer and fewer hunters, is that; there is less and less hunting habitat. When I was a kid hunting was a way of life. My son went through a state sponsored safety program and got a hunting license at 12 years old. My grand kids may or may not ever take up the sport of hunting. Hunting is a sport these days. However, my grand kids will learn how to shoot. If there is ever a war and a draft is required, it requires only minimal training in new weapons to put a fighting force on the ground if one has previous training. Unless one side is ready to use over whelming force and genocide, wars always come down to man to man and hand to hand. My grand kids will be ready their survival may depend on it.

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» RE: be prepared Posted by: YogiBear
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Message For Anti Firearm groups.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Feb 28, 2007 5:53 AM   
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It would be prudent for you to join with the Pro Firearm lobbying groups to teach firearm safely and values in the school system.

If all children were brought up with a respectful appreciation of the proper use of firearms, it would help prevent there misuse.

Proper conditioning may be used to prevent the violent attitude many children grow up with because they have not been taught adult responsibilities.
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NEANDERTHAL
Posted by: gellero on Feb 28, 2007 6:05 AM   
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ABOVE - "i nearly shot my friend"......sounds like you needed a gun safety course.

I like guns, I liked them in high school. My parents would never dream of owning one. I came from an urban, brainwashed, cultured, democratic - voting family.

People who won't have guns are setting themselves up to be VICTIMS. No kids in my house now.....so I sleep with a .38 by the bed. And why not?

Funny how no one complains about wealthy people and politicians having ARMED bodyguards. Most of us can't afford them. Hence......GUNS.

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» Possibly... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
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» NOT QUITE Posted by: gellero
Wow. The authoritarian anti-choice crowd comes out in force! And on a progressive site!
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Feb 28, 2007 6:10 AM   
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Now who'dathunk that? (Erm...well.......duh!)

Teaching kids to be responsible hunters and shooters isn't a bad thing; neither is raising your kids the way you choose and getting your authoritarian noses out of your neighbors' rights to do the same.

Where did all the pro-choice advocates go?

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» Suggestion: read... Posted by: ABetterFuture
» ?????? Posted by: gellero
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If hunting is for animal population control and environmental conservation
Posted by: WhatNow? on Feb 28, 2007 6:22 AM   
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Then I'll be all for it when I can go out and hunt some overbreeders in their SUVs and McMansions. I couldn't stand to eat the meat but it might make good dog food.

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» hilarious!! Posted by: veggiegrrrl
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Great programs. They should have more of them and also fishing
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Feb 28, 2007 6:31 AM   
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programs. Get kids out of the city and suburbs and off the video games and tv for a change. Let them camp, hike, fish, hunt, and enjoy the outdoors. It will also teach them appropriate and safe use of firearms so they will be less likely to shoot someone/themselves accidently if they find a gun in someone's home (or dumped in the schoolyard by a fleeing junkie.)
We can hope also that this program could be focused on certain animals. Like cull some of the whitetail in problem areas that have become overcrowded due to no predators and growth of cities. And fish for those invasive species and catch-n-release all natives.

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Yeah...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 28, 2007 6:31 AM   
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Ok, lets be clear about this.

I grew up in a time and place where every boy I knew had a .22 by the time he was around 12. We all had BB guns VERY early. I think I was in 2nd grade when I got mine (a really sweet red rider that still had a wooden stock). Out of all the kids I grew up with, not a one has been involved in gun crime.

The problem ISN'T guns. If it were, then the prevalence of knives in EVERY SINGLE HOME IN THE COUNTRY would have caused a raging epedimic of stabbings. The problem is not hunting, either. The problem is a society that glorifies gun violence. Guns do not fire themselves. Guns do not aim themselves. People aim them and fire them.

I don't own any guns, nor do I much want to. I don't hunt. I tried it a couple of times and found it just wasn't for me. I don't approve of hunting for sport... but I don't have a problem with hunting for food.

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» Somewhat disagree Posted by: YogiBear
This is wrong?!
Posted by: sausage on Feb 28, 2007 6:35 AM   
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Granted the NRA is a pig organization. Granted the NRA is, since the usurpation of vice-president-for-life Wayne LaPierre, primarily a lobby for firearms manufacturers. That being said, however, what is wrong with this statement from the above article:"This class teaches them how to use the gun, how to load the gun," she told reporters, "I do not feel comfortable with them knowing this information."

The mother quoted, one Aimee Falls, is promoting continued ignorance about firearms. By keeping knowledge of guns occult she promotes the mystique of firearms and the essentially masculine cult of the gun barrel. Attitudes like the speaker's transform a mundane object into a cult fetish; the talisman of the outlaw, the bad boy.

Truthfully, I'd rather be in a room with a thousand armed NRA members than in one with one gun packing gang-banger. Why? Because at the very least, the thousand NRA members know how their firearm works, they treat it with the respect due a deadly weapon and know enough not to wildly wave it around, point it in other peoples' faces while keeping it fully loaded. Firearm safety programs work.

And, really, as for gun control, it is not the guns which need controlling, it's the shooter.

Shooting firearms should be treated similarly to the state scantioned privilege of driving an automobile. A citizen who owns a firearm would be required to take a state scantioned firearm safety test, purchase a shooters license (something I envision as similar to a driver's license which would need to be updated periodically), and some form of liability insurance. As far as I'm concern she or he could own as many guns as she or he could afford.

The number of firearms possessed is not a real issue but responsible usage is. Who owns firearms and how they are used is more important that how many and of what type can be owned and where.

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» Right on!! Posted by: freedomhawk
WHAT A SCARY PICTURE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 28, 2007 6:54 AM   
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What is that child hunting for? An elephant. And why do children have to be taught what to do when "they come across firearms in the home". Parents who own guns have an obligation to put them far out of the reach of children. Maybe hunting has lost it's charm because we now have grocery stores where the things have been killed for us. How's that for convenience. What a country. Guns around chldren is a no brainer. It's dangerous. Thanks, ANNA

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» How very easily scared you seem. Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: DUH? Posted by: chrisp.
Oh Hooray, more bloodthirsty animal abusers in the world...
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Feb 28, 2007 6:54 AM   
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Oh Hooray, more bloodthirsty animal abusers in the world...

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» Correction Posted by: YogiBear
Hunting as really good sport
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Feb 28, 2007 7:18 AM   
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Hunting is a most enjoyable sport. I've spent many a season out in the western mountains of Maryland (actually big hills) looking for the elusive white tail. Sometimes I'm lucky and sometime I' not. The experience and the being in the wild with my trusty 30-30 is a positive experience. Makes me wonder in awe at the G/D of Creation as I listen to the sounds of nature. Even when I don't have success I still enjoy the being in the woods with the sounds and my thoughts. The other positive is that I know that my being able to handle a weapon gives me an edge up on limp-wristed liberal anti-gun elitists. You know the kind....the ones who blame gun violence on the tool instead of the person. The ones that ignore the many thousands of times that regular folk save themselves and others (including liberals) from criminals but will highlight every incident where someone uses a gun to commit mayhem. I'm pleased that the America I live in is a gun culture. I also want to thank the writer of this piece for reminding me that I have to renew my NRA membership. One last question.....I'm looking at a new high powered rifle but can't decide between a Reminton 308 or a BushMaster .223........decisions....decisions.

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Very Troubling
Posted by: Joycep on Feb 28, 2007 7:25 AM   
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Hunting can be a enjoyable sport for adults and responsable teenager from the age of 17 and not kids, a gun a child hand is a very troubling sight. They can be taught about gun safety, but giving them a gun and saying that they are out hunting does not reflect the right place of a child.

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Lazy
Posted by: undertheradarmang on Feb 28, 2007 7:42 AM   
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I'm sorry, but I don't find hunting very... hunter like anymore.
There's nothing special about luring deer year round with feed, then when it's open season you sit up in your deer blind blasting away. Sure, its takes some skill to be an accurate shot, I wont deny that. If you really want to hunt, learn how to use a bow and arrow. Then feel free to go out looking for bears or bigger game. You see, there's more of a challenge in that. I promise I won't cry if I hear of some tragic accident where someone was mauled to death.

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Bloom County
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 28, 2007 8:13 AM   
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Ignore the posts below the comic. Just look at the Bloom County Liberal Hunters Strip, from back in the day, HERE.

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"Seduced into hunting"? Bah!
Posted by: anarchistecogeek on Feb 28, 2007 8:39 AM   
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I have never understood why the left is so afraid of guns.
I regard the increasing numbers of kids getting interested in hunting as a GOOD thing. I, like many environmentalist activists, first nurtured my love of nature growing up in a family with a tradition of hunting and fishing.

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Put It In Perspective
Posted by: djnoll on Feb 28, 2007 9:02 AM   
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I grew up in a home where guns were not allowed and were considered too dangerous for decent people to have. I learned to shoot at the age of 37, and found I was a natural, not something I would have expected. I even achieved a marksman's rating with a 30-06 and a 45. Do I hunt? No. Do I currently own a gun? No. Am I glad I know how to safely own and shoot one? You bet I am.

Courses like these must be taught. We may not like that thought, and it may not be used for hunting by many who take the classes, but the knowledge may be invaluable in the future. I am not so foolish as to think that the motivations of the gun manufacturers or the NRA are altruistic. I am a realist who sees that hunting for our food or protecting our homes in the near future may be the difference between survival and not. While I would rather that Nature handled the thinning of herds with natural predators such as wolves and cougars, I also understand that responsible hunting can be done within reason. (Aerial shooting or bounties are barbaric and disgusting)

Should we fear that these classes will lead to another Columbine or worse? It do not think that should be as much of a concern as the accessiblity of students to guns on the streets or the fact that most children who get hurt with guns do so because they have no knowledge on how to handle a gun safely. Parents who allow guns in the home should be sure that they are properly secured; that children cannot get access to them; and that their children are properly trained in their use when they feel the child is old enough to understand the responsibilities that go with gun ownership.

So, while I do not agree with these classes as a marketing tool for the gun industry, I do believe that in today's world, this class is an important one for our young people if they are to be safe and prepared for the future.

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Bambi Syndrome is not healthy for children or other living things...
Posted by: Praxis on Feb 28, 2007 9:58 AM   
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Most "Animal Rights" folks seem far more concerned about the welfare of individual creatures than the health of the ecosystem as a whole. They often oppose actions that are necessary to preserving intact native habitats that cause "suffering" to introduced exotic species. Hunters, on the other paw, understand that they need to preserve intact ecosystems in order to participate in their sport. If it weren't for groups like Ducks Unlimited the remaining wetlands would have been paved over with mini malls long ago. Personally, I think a responsible hunter stalking the introduced European wild boar that are destroying mountain meadows and out-competing native deer is a far better environmentalist than some soft-hearted lib crying "Think of the pussy wussies" when a ranger tries to cull a few feral cats to protect the last breeding population of clapper rails.

True, the NRA has basically become an adjunct of the GOP, but knee-jerk liberals' anti-hunting attitudes helped drive them in that direction. I know a guy who hates Bush but reflexively votes Republican because he's concerned that the Democrat Party will try and take his guns away, and I'm sure he's not alone. Pols like Diane Feinstein support corporate globalization and imperialist adventurism, but are considered progressive because they want gun control. Radicals (folks that wish to address the root of problems rather than liberals who prefer to dress up a pig with some lipstick) shouldn't be taken in by this anti-gun program, which would disarm the people and leave activists to be rounded up like European Jews in WWII if push ever comes to shove in this country. The right is already armed to the teeth. I don't trust the police and military to protect my rights; those very forces slaughtered hundreds of thousands of good people in Latin America over the last generation. The Dirty War in Argentina never would have happened if the working class had been armed. I'd rather oppose gun registration and restriction and make common cause with rural workers who do a little hunting and fishing against the corporate-financed duopoly.

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Why during school though...
Posted by: tlCampbell on Feb 28, 2007 10:12 AM   
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I grew up in a small town in a mountainous region that is nearly all protected forestry and hunting grounds so I understand just what exactly the funds from hunting and fishing licensing provides. I support firearm safety and training courses because without the healthy respect and understanding of what a gun can do, and how to properly handle one, it can lead to serious disasters.

My problem with the situation however, is that why is it okay to supplement part of physical education in schools with hunting courses? As it is, we are struggling to keep the current standard school curriculum in place such as PE, music, arts, and other valuable educational programs, I don’t feel that we should be sacrificing one of these areas just to promote hunting. If it were strictly gun safety that needed to be taught, I could appreciate that, but this to me just seems like a marketing ploy to generate funds for yet another industry.

Teaching children about and getting them involved in conservation efforts does not require hunting courses, this can and is often done through numerous other school activities that are already in place, which also encourages respect and compassion for all creatures and the environment.

If the desired affect is to generate more hunters or at least gun toting people, then why not do the same thing the girl/boy scouts do and send out fliers to the schools advertising their programs and activities, rather than absorbing themselves directly into the schools.

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And how about teaching kids the real values of basic interpersonal communication skills too?
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 28, 2007 10:25 AM   
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Sure, we can teach our kids about hunting all we want while at the same time letting the arms industry join Corporate America into GREENWASHING our youth. Look, hunters know a great deal of conservation and that I appreciate but let's be honest. The only reason the hunting program exists is to promote more guarenteed gun-only toters who could care a damn less about the fact that their politicians and Corporate America are selling this country out and using their gun fears to stay in power. You can have all the firearms all you want but still feel insecure and worried that freedom is slipping away which is no doubt the case. Save, no.2, the Bill of Rights is already gone for the most part.

An earlier poster mentioned the need to preserve school programs such as Physical Education. I would add the need to add a really worthwhile and less monied program to help people improve their Basic Interpersonal Communication Skills along with it. Let's face it, America is getting more obese and from teen dating violence happening to 1 in 3 teens to the 50% divorce rate, our country's well-being isn't going to get any better by turning kids into gun-toters and potentially heavily armed gangsters.

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Thou Shalt Not Kill
Posted by: mistery509 on Feb 28, 2007 10:28 AM   
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All United States of America needs is to teach hunting and killing as part of the children's learning skills.

As if there is not enough killing already. As if there isn't enough guns in the country. As if there aren't enough people in jails for murder and battery.

Who are you people?

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Nothing Brings Out the Gun Nuts
Posted by: Diego on Feb 28, 2007 10:41 AM   
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like an article such as this one.

Having spent 6 years in the midst of the hunting culture of N.Michigan I can tell you most of these clowns would use dynamite, if necessary, to "get their deer". They try and tell you it's all about heritage or sportsmanship or game management or, (this one kills me), a great family experience, when it's really just about killing a de