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How To Prevent An Illiterate Workforce

By Amanda Paulson, Christian Science Monitor. Posted February 16, 2007.


Today the US denies education to illegal immigrants, and in 20 years more workers will be illiterate.

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US workers may be significantly less literate in 2030 than they are today.

The reason: Most baby boomers will be retiring and a large wave of less-educated immigrants will be moving into the workforce. This downward shift in reading and math skills suggests a huge challenge for educators and policymakers in the future, according to a new report from the Educational Testing Service (ETS).

If they can't reverse the trend, then it could spell trouble for a large swath of the labor force, widen an already large skill gap, and shrink the middle class.

"There is no time that I can tell you in the last hundred years" where literacy and numeracy have declined, says Andrew Sum, director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston and one of the report's authors. "But if you don't change outcomes for a wide variety of groups, this is the future we face."

The decline in literacy is one of the more startling projections in a report that examines what it calls a "perfect storm" of converging factors and how those trends are likely to play out if left unchecked.

The three factors identified are: a shifting labor market increasingly rewarding education and skills, a changing demographic that include a rapid-growing Hispanic population, and a yawning achievement gap, particularly along racial and socioeconomic lines, when it comes to reading and math.

The individual trends have been identified before, but this study makes an effort to examine their combined effects, and to project a disturbing future, including a sharply declining middle class in addition to the lost ground in literacy.

"We have the possibility of transforming the American dream into the American tragedy," says Irwin Kirsch, a senior research director at ETS and the lead author of the study.

Ringing the alarm

He and the other researchers emphasize they're not saying the US is in any danger of collapse, or even that this grim scenario will come true. What they hope to do, they say, is call attention to urgent issues that affect not just many Americans' lifestyle, but the sort of democracy based on an informed middle class that the country was founded on.

"I hope it's viewed as an important warning sign," says Kurt Landgraf, president of ETS. "It's important for society to take notice of what's going on here in a macro way."

One factor that's been gaining increasing attention lately is the changing economic rewards in an economy in which demand for manufacturing and lower skilled labor is declining. It's become tougher for workers without higher education -- or higher cognitive skills -- to get the sort of job that can support a family.

But exacerbating the changes such an economic shift is causing are demographic factors, researchers say. Baby boomers are retiring and being replaced by less-skilled workers. A combination of immigration and population growth means that the share of the population that is Hispanic is expected to grow from 14 percent in 2005 to more than 20 percent by 2030. More than half of the immigrant Hispanics lack a high school diploma.

"Many immigrants enter [the US] without being able to read or speak English," says Mr. Landgraf. "Instead of forcing people to hide from the government infrastructure, we should be finding ways to include them in our society and help them bridge the language gap."

Turning to education

He and others suggest increasing attention and resources to early childhood education, to the social factors that affect young children, to continuing adult education, and to programs that keep kids from dropping out of school and address the achievement gap.

Some groups are already focusing on the issues, occasionally in surprising political coalitions.

Later this month, the US Chamber of Commerce -- along with the liberal Center for American Progress and the conservative American Enterprise Institute -- plans to release a report card grading states on their K-12 education in nine categories, together with an action agenda, says Arthur Rothkopf, a senior vice president at the Chamber of Commerce.

Solidarity with the Center for American Progress is unusual for his agency, he notes, "but we have to get the message out."

Like the ETS researchers, Mr. Rothkopf is particularly concerned about the growing mismatch of skills and workplace demands, and what that means for Americans' standard of living.

"We need to really rethink what we do," he says. "Hopefully this report among others will continue the drum beat."

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Misleading Title
Posted by: edith on Feb 16, 2007 1:43 AM   
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Since 1982, all children including children of immigrants without legal documetation have the right to education K-12, This is the result of a US Supreme Court decision that year, the "Plyer" case.

Hispanic children, both illegal and legal residents, are more adversely affected, like white and black children, by the No Child Left Alive Act fervently supported by Ted Kennedy and George W. Bush. That act in effect assumes all high school students are college bound and requires "proficiency" in English rather than a basic command of English, for graduation. Significant numbers of white, as well as black and Hispanic youth will not meet that goal because it is geared to passing standardized tests similar to the verbal Sat.

That kind of test, based on literature and in complex interpretive language skills, is irrelevant to the ability to do most blue collar and many white collar jobs. The test merely will segregate workers from many backgrounds into a nonproficient category. Non diploma certificates will be issued to kids who finish four years of high school but who fail the test. Low wages will be offered such "nonproficient" speakers. If you scored under a 500 in a verbal SAT, then you are probably "nonproficient" too.

Spending billions more on No Child Left Alive programs as Kennedy and the NEA want will not result in many more students' passing, and in any event would be a poor use of resources. Effective vocational programs for the forty percent or more of all students of all backgrounds who are not interested in four year college educations would be a better investment.

Such programs could include math and English classes geared to real life, and not to deciphering inferences in Emily Dickinson(who I personally love but would not recommend as particularly useful or interesting for most people).

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» RE: Misleading Title Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» archaic content Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: archaic content Posted by: edith
» RE: archaic content Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: archaic content Posted by: DaBear
» RE: archaic content Posted by: blitzmesser
» Value of vocational skills Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: Misleading Title Posted by: DaBear
» RE: Misleading Title Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Misleading Title Posted by: DaBear
BS problems
Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Feb 16, 2007 4:44 AM   
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gee, the really easy way is to stop importing illiterates(this includes "refugees"). prevention, people!!!!!!

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» RE: BS problems Posted by: blitzmesser
This article laments innumeracy while endorsing a pyramid scam!
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Feb 16, 2007 4:45 AM   
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This is news??

Knee jerk liberals and neocons alike lament innumeracy among immigrants, while remaining innumerate themselves of demographic limits.

Haven't we always been told illiterate immigrants "do jobs Americans won't do"? That is supposed to justify their unending population explosion. And now these same clueless hang-wringers bemoan the fact that the immigrants are illiterate. Surprise, surprise!!

Which means we're now supposed to undertake the Sisyphean task of educating them all. Even in the highly improbable event we succeed, that would mean they will no longer do the "jobs Americans won't do."

Duh, can we guess what that means?? An even bigger wave of illiterate immigrants to replace them, of course! In an infinite world, this might vaguely make some kind of sense. In this particular world, it's the hallmark of insanity.

So what? Both knee-jerk liberals AND neocons want open borders, and they could care less what most Americans think about it -- that's just a PR problem to be solved, as far as they're concerned.

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» Clean up our own backyard Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: Clean up our own backyard Posted by: olderworker
If they are
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Feb 16, 2007 5:09 AM   
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here illegaly, how is it that they have the legal right for education? How does that make sense? Just sayin.

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» the SUPREME Court Posted by: edith
» RE: If they are Posted by: Raj
» Because they are Posted by: dkm
Makes sense really...
Posted by: Colin on Feb 16, 2007 5:14 AM   
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...after all, you don't really need to be able to read to do a dead end job for a few quid an hour. Yes, no doubt it will help with other areas of your own personal life, but what does that matter to prospective employers or, indeed, the rest of society at large?

Besides, people who can't read, apparently, have on average lower self-esteem than people that can, keeping them firmly in their place. After all, you don't want them all 'hoping' for something better. They might actually try!

No - I think in general a divided society of the 'thinkers' and the 'muscle' makes perfect sense and is probably best for everyone. Surely you to would have to admit that these 'immigrants' (cough... choke) aren't real people. How can they be? They're foreign.

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Faulty headline
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Feb 16, 2007 6:22 AM   
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"Today the US denies education to illegal immigrants, and in 20 years more workers will be illiterate."

California does not deny education to children of illegal aliens or illegal aliens. There are thousands of English classes in California for adult illegal aliens. And their children are everywhere in our public schools.

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Send those illegally here home
Posted by: cmaciain on Feb 16, 2007 6:37 AM   
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"Many immigrants enter [the US] without being able to read or speak English," says Mr. Landgraf. "Instead of forcing people to hide from the government infrastructure, we should be finding ways to include them in our society and help them bridge the language gap."


If they're here legally, we have classes for them. If they're here illegally, deport them. That's a simple solution. Why should we include those illegally here in our society when they aren't even willing to follow our rules? They CAN apply to come here like everyone else.

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» RE: Send those illegally here home Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» MORE BS Posted by: gellero
You know, we could just keep them out...
Posted by: medstudgeek on Feb 16, 2007 6:50 AM   
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Build a fence!

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» A fence won't stop it Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» and teachers, avoid Gabriel Garcia Marquez! Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
simple solutions
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Feb 16, 2007 6:59 AM   
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Worried about illiteracy? All we have to do is send all the illegals home and bust up the liberal controlled public indoctrination centers called public schools. Give control back to private education and/or allow parents to use vouchers to send their chillen to the better schools. Get the curricula back to readin' writin' & rithmatic and leave social education up to parents and communities. Little Johnny can't read above 6th grade level as a H.S. student but he knows about gay, lesbian and transgendered behavior and he excels in putting a condom on a cucumber. This is the kind of shit they teach these days and you libs scratch your heads and wonder what new "progressive" teaching programs will make little Johnny learn better. The teacher unions come out with some new and innovative teaching "system" only to find that it didn't work and it made the situation worse. Think I'm kidding? You look at what the school systems of 50-100 years ago taught and you would probably be shocked that those previous generations were better educated by the time they reached H.S. than the graduates of most colleges today. Granted the technology wasn't there then but they would have been better prepared to learn technology than today's grads.

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» RE: simple solutions Posted by: edith
» RE: simple solutions Posted by: ezilla
» RE: Simple solutions - Bash "Liberals" Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» Duh! Posted by: Kelly
Didn't you all hear "mexicans do the jobs that even blacks will not do"
Posted by: White middleclass male on Feb 16, 2007 7:32 AM   
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Or so said Mr Fox.

More like "Mexicans drive the wage down to a level that no American can afford to do"

Do you want better schools and higher wages for blue collar workers? Start by kicking the illegals who are a drain on our country out.

America is not Mexico's welfare program.

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These people you despise are sending their kids to Iraq
Posted by: sarahk on Feb 16, 2007 8:22 AM   
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Read the long list of soldiers who have died over the past years in Iraq. Many names are Latino because Hispanics have begun enlisting in increasing numbers in the military. They are filling the gap that middle and upperclass whites have left who do not want their precious kids joining the military. Many of those who are now enlisting have illegal parents or close family members who are illegal. Some have enlisted without being a US citizen or even knowing English--of this group, some have been awarded US citizenship after they died. After one young soldier died, it was discovered that his mom and dad were illegals. They almost got deported, but fortunanetly, some government official gave them a reprieve in recognition of their son dying for the people of the United States. Remember freedom isn't free. If you cheered the war on, yet did not encourage your child to enlist or enlist yourself to do the real dirty work of fighting, you may have a minority to thank for taking your place.

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» What is your point? Posted by: White middleclass male
» There shouldn't be a war, of course! Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
A myth!
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Feb 16, 2007 9:00 AM   
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"a shifting labor market increasingly rewarding education and skills"... This is simply a myth too, I think, but the people propagating the myth are all in academia and have a vested interest in promoting the myth ad nauseum. The jobs that do NOT get oursourced to India are in health care, plumbing & electrical work (very well paid!), & all the traditionally frowned-upon blue-collar skills. And I do mean SKILLS since manufacturing & unions have disappeared. There's no future in being an office drone, and educational inflation just makes the problem worse. What did most college graduates learn (let alone remember) that had much of anything to do with real life? But requiring the piece of paper means you have to get on that treadmill - then you can nod with the rest of us over another Alternet piece by Barbara Ehrenreich about how dispiriting & soul-sucking office work is.

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» good point Posted by: Ayla87
FIXING OUR SCHOOLS IS NOT ABOUT MORE MONEY - Pt 1
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 16, 2007 9:34 AM   
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FIXING OUR SCHOOLS IS NOT ABOUT MORE MONEY

How To Make The Public Education System Top Notch Without Breaking The Bank

by Christopher C. Ballatine



FEBRUARY 16, 2004 – Head Start, school funding, more money, testing.

The ideas being tossed about by both parties show that neither get what is actually the problem with our free public education system. So we at The Moderate Independent are here to lay out three simple, low-to-no-cost steps that could drastically change the nature of public education and make a high school diploma once again something worth attaining in and of itself.

UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM

The basic issue is not generally about money.

Having said that, we must note that there are absolutely some schools that are being given short shrift, schools in places like the south side of Chicago where rodents attend with the children and text books don't exist in useful numbers. We are not addressing such pathetic aberrations, which are inexcusable and should be remedied immediately.

But the American secondary education system - otherwise known as high school - has a general problem. It is only useful are a catalyst for admission to college.

In other words, in and of itself, high school does not actually educate students in a manner that is useful in the world. The base education up through 10th grade is fine, but unless the last two years contain matter which makes a high school diploma useful - indeed important to attain - in and of itself, there is nothing that can be done to improve our education system.

As a matter of explaining the problems and remedies, here are three simple curriculum changes that would render high school graduates truly ready for the world, and a high school diploma a desirable - and respected - thing, as it used to be before usefulness was afforded only to those who could afford college.

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FIXING OUR SCHOOLS IS NOT ABOUT MORE MONEY - Pt 2
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 16, 2007 9:35 AM   
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CHANGE 1 - MAKING A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION AN END IN AND OF ITSELF

Unless you want to go on to college, what you are taught in high school beyond the 10th grade is pointless. You will not need trigonometry or calculus. Advanced history is nice to use during bar conversations later in life but not that useful.

So the question arises, what would be useful? In order to be truly educated to step out into the world with a useful base of knowledge, what should a modern day student be taught?

Basic to every profession - be it mechanic, investor, inventor, artist - is one necessary school of information: how to start and run a business. While a Harvard MBA degree certainly will offer more than any high school ever could, the basics of accounting, what forms are required, what laws exist - the basics of how to start and run a business - could easily be taught over the course of junior and senior year. And such information would not only be useful to every student, no matter what pursuit they choose or whether they go on to college or not, but, just as importantly, would appeal to students, making those last two years of high school something they have a reason to want to complete and learn from.

The biggest problem with a high school education today is that it enables you to do nothing in the world. But the basic knowledge of how to start and run and business is the central building block that made America. No matter whether someone's fancy is Karate, music, auto repair, or if they go on to get an advanced degree, knowing how to start and run a business, how to file the forms, keep the books, the basics of regulations involved with hiring people, would open a new world of opportunity to all.

And while now the only incentive during junior and senior year in high school is to get good grades if you wish to go on to college, and nothing if you don't, because the the classes presented offer no useful, real world information in and of themselves, teaching how to start and run a business during these last two years would give students something they truly can take and apply no matter what path they choose in life. And so suddenly a high school education would become a useful end.


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FIXING OUR SCHOOLS IS NOT ABOUT MORE MONEY - Pt 3
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 16, 2007 9:35 AM   
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STEP 2 - PREPARING STUDENTS FOR THE BASICS OF THE REAL WORLD

Years and years of public school education and students come out not knowing even the basics about: the stock market, mutual funds, money markets, options. Sure students hear of these things, but they are not taught what they actually are, how one can participate in them, what are the risks and what are some useful strategies for investing.

Last year - yet again - the number of personal bankruptcies in our nation reached an all-time high. Our nation cannot continue on in a prosperous manner if our citizens continue to go belly up from poor financial choices.

And so central to the junior and senior year curriculum should be money management and investing. Knowing how to take advantage of IPO's, knowing long term investment strategies, knowing what a 401K is and how to use one if you end up with one, knowing you can get a better return by putting savings in a money market instead of a basic savings account, understanding the problems of revolving credit card debt, all of these things are easily taught, vitally important, basic knowledge for today's world. And none of these things are taught to high school students, who instead are stuck in classes that have no meaning to them.

Making the basics of financial management and investing a part of the junior and senior year high school curriculum would once again not only provide a vital knowledge base to America's young adults, reducing the number of personal bankruptcies and enhancing the ability of our citizens the thrive in the world, but would make a high school education and diploma things worth having, things that, in and of themselves, prepare you to lead a productive, prosperous life in the world.

And of course, even for those who go on to college, this information about financial management and investing is not taught in many college curriculums, such as engineering, psychology, the arts, medicine - even though it is central to the lives of anyone who chooses to pursue these fields. So even for those who plan on going on to college, this information will make a high school education a more useful and desirable thing.

And the reality is, that people do better in school and learn more when they have a reason to - not because they have a test that demands they do well. You catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar. And it is the same throughout life. The stick of reprimand for bad test scores - such as dictated with programs such as No Child Left Behind - are meaningless. Unless you give students a reason to want to learn - though a curriculum worth learning - you will not improve the situation.

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FIXING OUR SCHOOLS IS NOT ABOUT MORE MONEY - Pt 4
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 16, 2007 9:36 AM   
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STEP 3 - CAREER PATHS AND SKILLS

Students complete high school without ever being taught how to put together a resume or what career paths are actually available to them. Many complete college without learning these things as well.

The single biggest problem in the worst schools in America is not underfunding, it is a culture in which students don't understand what the point of an education is. The only comprehensible ends in life are success in sports, in the entertainment business, or in gangs selling drugs.

Even among students in the better public schools, the knowledge and understanding of all the options out there is extremely limited.

For example, students who have an interest in sports don't consider that while only a select handful get to make a living by playing professional sports, many can make livings as certified athletic trainers, still working in the environment they want. There are also opportunities in marketing and management.

Students are aware that they can go on to be doctors, but for many this seems out of reach for a number of reasons. These students frequently never consider many other opportunities, such as nursing, researcher, medical technician, lab tech, pharmacist, or numerous other careers.

In other words, there is a sort of all or nothing mentality, that if you are not one of those on a career path through medical school or the NBA, there is no career worth working towards.

This is the sad reality for the majority of American students today. And, again, it is one that is easily remediable and not about money.

How can you say students are ready to be sent off into the world if they don't know how to put together a resume? How can they know how to proceed if they don't know what employers look for in a resume, how a base level career can lead to better things and how to see that it does? How can they make decisions and choices about their futures if they don't know the possibilities.

Basic vocational and career skills education during junior and senior year would provide students with skills that are both vitally useful and desirable to the students. And local businesses and professionals are more than willing to participate in such courses, making them that much more useful and tangible.

So let's look at the changes proposed.

Instead of looking ahead to yet more of the same, more history, english, etc., junior and senior years of high school would offer students the opportunity to learn how to start and run a business, basic financial management and investing, and teach them what career choices are out there and how best to pursue them.

So while the Bush Republicans offer mandates and punishments as their solutions but no actual, useful positive changes, and the Democrats simply sit around complaining about what the Bush Republicans offered - which they supported to begin with - The Moderate Independent offers a better way, an actual solution that is not about more money or less money or about reprimands and pressure, but about making a high school diploma something worth having once again.

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» GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT Posted by: gellero
The "Dumming-down" of Our Children
Posted by: Rowdysr on Feb 16, 2007 9:38 AM   
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With the invasion of ILLEGALS into our country we have succeeded in failing our children! More time is devoted to these lawbreakers who refuse to learn English - their false sense of entitlement is destroying our educational system - not to mention our public services. It is time that we take care of the legal citizens who follow the rule of law. The very future of our country depends on it.

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FIXING OUR SCHOOLS IS NOT ABOUT MORE MONEY - Pt 5 - MAXPAYNE'S ADDITION
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 16, 2007 9:39 AM   
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Here's my opinion FWIW. Firstly our public education system is almost unreformable and is unmitigated disaster, its a beast thats been cut up and re-engineered so many times by liberals and conservatives that it serves no other than to babysit children until they come of age. So today we graduate barely literate, out of shape, with a hatred of reading and learning, ahistorical teenagers after 12 years and about $100,000 of taxpayer money. Though in some cases they actually graduate total illiterates who have been socially promoted for the last 12 years.

All in all its a amazing feat, that our schools are able to crush children's natural inquistiveness and ability to learn. Its enough to make a Hitler or Stalin green with envy.

That said, I'd to address the Moderate Independent's 1st change and perhaps the most important one.
1)Making a High School eduation an end unto itself.
In order to make this happen, would require a drastic overhaul of our entire Pub Ed system. For starters we would need:

A) Remove social promotion(a big fave of liberals everywhere). And reinstitute honest grading and holding back slow or dumb students.
The problem with social promotion is that its has led to a dumbed down curriculum and made the HS diploma worthless in the eyes of employers.

B)Get rid of the current textbooks. They are crap and only benefit the crooked publishers and are partly responsible to for children being unable to learn. Use the textbook format that is used in China and Japan and produces some of the smartest kids around. Besides these books cost 1/3 to 1/5 of our overpriced pieces of shit.

BTW this has been known for decades and even principals and teachers are aware of it, but they are powerless in the face of the multi-billion dollar schoolbook publishing empire that keeps the racket going.

C) Bring back Phys Ed. Removing Phys Ed in favor of ramming useless courses down childrens throats has created a obesity/diabeties epidemic in our schools. Not to mention slowing their rate of learning. Study after study has proven a direct correlation between exercise and being a better learner. So go out and hire some good Phys. Ed teachers, not potbellied coaches but folks who BS. in phys ed or highly certified aerobics/yoga instructors who can actually walk the talk.

D)Changes to the curriculum. Make mandatory basic geography and home-ec for starters. Then add a course on basic logic and language(general semantics) so students will know the difference between political agit-prop and genuine discourse. The latter course is important because we live in a highly consumerized/propagandized society that literally tells us what to think, to buy and who to vote for. Something that didn't exist 50 or 80 years ago.

E) Make discipline, understanding relationships, and improving basic interpersonal communication skills MANDATORY. There's too much violence and breakups from simple relationships to marriages and this country is already going down in FLAMES for it.

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» GET OFF YOUR FAT ASS Posted by: gellero
Lets just put it to a vote
Posted by: LtL on Feb 16, 2007 9:46 AM   
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Do they stay and we have an open door policy? Or do we close the border, depart illegals and allow people to go through legal channels to be permitted to live here?

WHAT DO AMERICANS WANT?

A vote would end this once in for all. But if they voted to lock down the borders it needs to be followed up with a wall, (razon wire on the mexican side perhaps a nice mural on the American side) and border patrol agents with all the resources they need in their arsenal.

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the spine of this article
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 16, 2007 10:18 AM   
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is deeply flawed. ETS as a credible source? These folks are the kings of classism and the kings of the standards-based education that is dragging the nation down, immigrants and "natives" alike. Their entire "alarm" is based on whether kids can recall classist Euro-shit "stuff" via a bunch of bubbles on paper.

"What they hope to do, they say, is call attention to urgent issues that affect not just many Americans' lifestyle, but the sort of democracy based on an informed middle class that the country was founded on."

Gee, they don't know much about history either.

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Does it seem strange to anyone...
Posted by: djnoll on Feb 16, 2007 1:15 PM   
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that the organization that provides the testing services and tests by which we judge our children is suddenly suggesting that the educational system from which they gain financially is screwed up? They lobbied just as hard for standardized tests, but when you can only get paid for the number of students you test, and the national drop out rate is now around 30% because students see no point in continuing with their educations because they know that they will not be going to college, you have to shift positions.

Until the educational system in this country started testing students for their potential in early elementary school, this agency was losing money. So guess what, they suggest starting the expensive testing earlier, slightly changing the way we approach education to stress more math and science skills, and they make it sound like they want to change the system that is their bread and butter. How many times does the American public sacrifice its children to corporate agendas tied up with degrees and fancy ribbons? Demand teachers teach, and schools deliver what they are suppose to deliver - edcuated children. Settle for nothing less!

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"Progressive" BS
Posted by: gellero on Feb 16, 2007 6:11 PM   
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It's the 'progressives', Democrats, and fellow travelers who forced the worthless Department of Education on the Federal Government. Now it's a sacred cow. All education is local. It's about as 'democratic' as you can get. 20 MILLION uneducated illegals with no history of stressing education like Jewish and Asian families can't be expected to be like the past immigrants from Europe. Those who think otherwise are deluding themselves. The educational resources are out there for all. If parents don't participate, that's just too bad. Our job is not to save them from themselves. And if the illegal wave continues, the US will become like Brazil. Thank you, progressives and liberals

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No problem, we always have a brain drain
Posted by: fibrowitch on Feb 19, 2007 6:05 PM   
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We have two different groups of people arriving in America. The ones crossing the border illegally who can not even read and write in their own language.

Then the people waiting for student visas, or work permits from China, India and else where who are arriving here to take the jobs the educated boomers are retireing from.

They are taking the jobs that pay high wages, that are not part of the underground economy, and are creating a stronger country.

The people who are hiding from the government, will NEVER no matter what level of education they receive, will do that. As long as they stay illegal, and their parents do not teach them to respect the law. They will not be adding anything to society, just taking from it.

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