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737 U.S. Military Bases = Global Empire

By Chalmers Johnson, Metropolitan Books. Posted February 19, 2007.


With more than 2,500,000 U.S. personnel serving across the planet and military bases spread across each continent, it's time to face up to the fact that our American democracy has spawned a global empire.
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Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic by Chalmers Johnson (Metropolitan Books).

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The following is excerpted from Chalmers Johnson's new book, "Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic" (Metropolitan Books).

Once upon a time, you could trace the spread of imperialism by counting up colonies. America's version of the colony is the military base; and by following the changing politics of global basing, one can learn much about our ever more all-encompassing imperial "footprint" and the militarism that grows with it.

It is not easy, however, to assess the size or exact value of our empire of bases. Official records available to the public on these subjects are misleading, although instructive. According to the Defense Department's annual inventories from 2002 to 2005 of real property it owns around the world, the Base Structure Report, there has been an immense churning in the numbers of installations.

The total of America's military bases in other people's countries in 2005, according to official sources, was 737. Reflecting massive deployments to Iraq and the pursuit of President Bush's strategy of preemptive war, the trend line for numbers of overseas bases continues to go up.

Interestingly enough, the thirty-eight large and medium-sized American facilities spread around the globe in 2005 -- mostly air and naval bases for our bombers and fleets -- almost exactly equals Britain's thirty-six naval bases and army garrisons at its imperial zenith in 1898. The Roman Empire at its height in 117 AD required thirty-seven major bases to police its realm from Britannia to Egypt, from Hispania to Armenia. Perhaps the optimum number of major citadels and fortresses for an imperialist aspiring to dominate the world is somewhere between thirty-five and forty.

Using data from fiscal year 2005, the Pentagon bureaucrats calculated that its overseas bases were worth at least $127 billion -- surely far too low a figure but still larger than the gross domestic products of most countries -- and an estimated $658.1 billion for all of them, foreign and domestic (a base's "worth" is based on a Department of Defense estimate of what it would cost to replace it). During fiscal 2005, the military high command deployed to our overseas bases some 196,975 uniformed personnel as well as an equal number of dependents and Department of Defense civilian officials, and employed an additional 81,425 locally hired foreigners.

The worldwide total of U.S. military personnel in 2005, including those based domestically, was 1,840,062 supported by an additional 473,306 Defense Department civil service employees and 203,328 local hires. Its overseas bases, according to the Pentagon, contained 32,327 barracks, hangars, hospitals, and other buildings, which it owns, and 16,527 more that it leased. The size of these holdings was recorded in the inventory as covering 687,347 acres overseas and 29,819,492 acres worldwide, making the Pentagon easily one of the world's largest landlords.

These numbers, although staggeringly big, do not begin to cover all the actual bases we occupy globally. The 2005 Base Structure Report fails, for instance, to mention any garrisons in Kosovo (or Serbia, of which Kosovo is still officially a province) -- even though it is the site of the huge Camp Bondsteel built in 1999 and maintained ever since by the KBR corporation (formerly known as Kellogg Brown & Root), a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corporation of Houston.

The report similarly omits bases in Afghanistan, Iraq (106 garrisons as of May 2005), Israel, Kyrgyzstan, Qatar, and Uzbekistan, even though the U.S. military has established colossal base structures in the Persian Gulf and Central Asian areas since 9/11. By way of excuse, a note in the preface says that "facilities provided by other nations at foreign locations" are not included, although this is not strictly true. The report does include twenty sites in Turkey, all owned by the Turkish government and used jointly with the Americans. The Pentagon continues to omit from its accounts most of the $5 billion worth of military and espionage installations in Britain, which have long been conveniently disguised as Royal Air Force bases. If there were an honest count, the actual size of our military empire would probably top 1,000 different bases overseas, but no one -- possibly not even the Pentagon -- knows the exact number for sure.


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Chalmers Johnson is president of the Japan Policy Research Institute, a non-profit research and public affairs organization devoted to public education concerning Japan and international relations in the Pacific.

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Posted by: LeftWright on Feb 19, 2007 12:30 AM   
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I highly recommend Chalmer's Johnson's books Blowback and The Sorrows of Empire and I look forward to reading this new one.

The New American Militarism by Andrew J. Bacevich is also offers an invaluable critique.

War is not the answer.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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» Oh, we're working on it every day Posted by: LeftWright
» Mere embarrassment? Posted by: Cathyc
impressive analysis
Posted by: Dboy on Feb 19, 2007 3:33 AM   
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Very impressive article. I'll be reading all the books mentioned here.

Dboy

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Good Cop, Bad Cop
Posted by: shangrilalad on Feb 19, 2007 3:54 AM   
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New York Times Editorial
Making Martial Law Easier

Published: February 19, 2007

“A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night. So it was with a provision quietly tucked into the enormous defense budget bill at the Bush administration’s behest that makes it easier for a president to override local control of law enforcement and declare martial law.

The provision, signed into law in October, weakens two obscure but important bulwarks of liberty. One is the doctrine that bars military forces, including a federalized National Guard, from engaging in law enforcement. Called posse comitatus, it was enshrined in law after the Civil War to preserve the line between civil government and the military. The other is the Insurrection Act of 1807, which provides the major exemptions to posse comitatus. It essentially limits a president’s use of the military in law enforcement to putting down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion, where a state is violating federal law or depriving people of constitutional rights.”


Have you heard one Democrat say a word about these ominous new laws?

Are we safe in assuming that Democrats will take action to prevent Bush from declaring Martial Law and effectively making himself dictator for life?

Do you sometimes suspect that Democrats and Republicans are doing a “Good Cop, Bad Cop,” routine on us?

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No interest in real "Democracy"
Posted by: colinmeister on Feb 19, 2007 4:22 AM   
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The joke is that US world domination aspirations are being passed off as "Spreading democracy". The USA has no real interest in establishing democracy in any country, it is only interested in setting up puppet regimes throughout the world.

This seems to have been already established in many countries, from formerly powerful countries in Europe to former European colonies in the third world. The twin bludgeons of US bases and threats of economic disruption are being used to threaten any country which wants to break away from towing the line.

Of course, there is a way the rest of the world can resist. Removal of the "World reserve currency" status from the US dollar, and sanctions against the US using manufactured goods as the tool would leave the US as a financially strapped country with a very angry population.

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World's best travel agency
Posted by: Bobsays on Feb 19, 2007 5:04 AM   
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The US's stretch across the world dwarfs the UN, the supposed world body. Day and night Galaxy heavy lifters criss cross the globe loaded with potato chips and Gaterade re-supplying these bases. I have had some strange and delightful encounters with US servicemen and women around the world. Sharing a hot tub with horny gay servicemen in Iceland, getting picked up by a female nurse in Haiti, and hanging out munching burgers in a secret location in Asia.

I always found these people to be very friendly and decent. I also envied the extensive network of support they received that was never given to international aid workers.

If we are to see a real global body that works, then we will need this impressive American global empire to be handed over to the UN or its replacement. Liberals take note: the US military is the model to follow.

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Thats not the worst of it..... read this and understand how really ....
Posted by: Prophit on Feb 19, 2007 5:27 AM   
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... scary this whole thing is becoming and how its probably not likely we can do anything to stop this. Now it becomes more important than ever to elect men of integrity and conscience. If we put a tool like this in the hands of a psycho such as we have in Cheney, we are doomed. Here is the link and relevant excerpt:

HAARP

US Weapons of Meteorological Mass Destruction

Dan Eden in an article, titled Weapons of Mass Destruction, talked about the HAARP facility located in Gakuna, Alaska, where patents bought from inventor Dr. Bernard Eastlund by huge defense contractor Raytheon are being experimented with, and used conceivably against world populations.

The HAARP Program is a US Air Force, Navy and University of Alaska funded investigation to "understand, simulate and control ionospheric processes that might alter the performance of communication and surveillance systems" as well as weather systems and those which actually can modify human behavior. The HAARP program was started in 1993 for a proposed twenty year series of experiments. Two paragraphs from Eden's article give you an idea of the forces being played with . . .

To date, there have been eleven other patents derived from Eastlund's original work. These patents describe the reflective alterations of the ionosphere for such uses as "nuclear scale explosions without radiation," "power-beaming systems," "over-the-horizon radar systems," and "nuclear missile detection and destruction systems." Further, the patents are now owned by Raytheon, a long-standing defense contractor, and can now be combined with other military patents and used for battlefield applications . . .
[They have the] " . . . ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in Earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes . . ."
A critical summary on Harp.Net of Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning's book, Angelメs Donメt Play This HAARP tells us, "Eastlund's patents were originally controlled by ARCO Power Technologies Incorporated (APTI), a subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Company, one of the biggest oil companies in the world. APTI was the contractor that built the HAARP facility. ARCO sold this subsidiary, the patents and the second phase construction contract to E-Systems in June 1994.

"E-Systems is one of the biggest intelligence contractors in the world–doing work for the CIA, defense intelligence organizations and others. And 1.8 billion of their annual sales are to these organizations, with $800 million for black projects–projects so secret that even the United States Congress isn't told how the money is being spent.

"E-Systems was bought out by Raytheon, again one of the largest defense contractors in the world. . . . The twelve patents . . . are the backbone of the HAARP project and are now buried among thousands of others held in the name of Raytheon . . ."

A statement most relevant in this HAARP report is . . .

Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device.
. . . Molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that . . . environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc., concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased.

(CON'T)

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"We have seen the enemy and he is US"-Pogo
Posted by: wawa on Feb 19, 2007 5:29 AM   
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Eisenhower warned in his farewell address NOT to tie the economy to the Industrial Military Complex,

But they have been in bed together ever since and we the taxpayer have been getting screwed.

“Any nation that year after year continues to raise the Defense budget while cutting social programs to the neediest is a nation approaching spiritual death.” - Rev. MLK

The USA is the Number 1 exporter of weapons of destruction

Israel, the USA's best friend and co-dependent partner in the Empire are the big bully's in the world.


On my 4th investigative jouney into the OPT, on 11/1/06, I spoke with Mohammad Alatar, film producer of "The Ironwall"
He said:

"I am a Muslim Palestinian American and when my son asked me who my hero was I took three days to think about it.

"I told him my hero is Jesus, because he took a stand and he died for it. What really needs to be done is for the churches to be like Jesus; to challenge the Israeli occupation and address the apartheid practices as moral issues.

"Even if every church divested and boycotted Israel it would not harm Israel. After the USA and Russia, Israel is the third largest arms exporter in the world. It is a moral issue that the churches must address."

Excerpted from "MEMOIRS of a Nice Irish-American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory"

http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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(con't from above)
Posted by: Prophit on Feb 19, 2007 5:30 AM   
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Remembering that this work began in 1994, consider these statements from the article . . .

"Begich and Manning brought to light government documents indicating that the military has weather-control technology. When HAARP is eventually built to its full power level, it could create weather effects over entire hemispheres. If one government experiments with the world's weather patterns, what is done in one place will impact everyone else on the planet. Angels Don't Play This HAARP explains a principle behind some of Nikola Tesla's inventions—resonance—which affect planetary systems."
Nikola Tesla (1865ラ1943), the so called "mad genius" or "wild man" of electronics was convinced he could develop enough electric power "to split the earth like an apple." Experimenting for a wealthy employer in the electric business in Colorado Springs, Tesla managed to black out the entire city and set the power generator on fire. The roar was heard for more than ten miles. Yet he moved on to bigger and more successful ideas, like missiles, particle beam weaponry, satellites, nuclear fission, and robots at the turn of the 20th century.

Dr. Bernard Eastland based his work on Tesla's principles as Begich and Manning discovered. Their observations are related in the Angels' article, in the section called "Weather Control" . . .

Avalanches of energy dislodged by such radio waves could hit us hard. Their work suggests that technicians could control global weather by sending relatively small 'signals' into the Van Allen belts (radiation belts around Earth). Thus Tesla's resonance effects can control enormous energies by tiny triggering signals.
The Begich/ Manning book asks whether that knowledge will be used by war-oriented or biosphere-oriented scientists.

The military has had about twenty years to work on weather warfare methods, which it euphemistically calls weather modification. For example, rainmaking technology was taken for a few test rides in Vietnam. The U.S. Department of Defense sampled lightning and hurricane manipulation studies in Project Skyfire and Project Stormfury. And they looked at some complicated technologies that would give big effects.
Angels Don't Play This HAARP cites an expert who says the military studied both lasers and chemicals which they figured could damage the ozone layer over an enemy. Looking at ways to cause earthquakes, as well as to detect them, was part of the project named Prime Argus, decades ago. The money for that came from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA, now under the acronym ARPA.) In 1994 the Air Force revealed its Spacecast 2020 master plan which includes weather control. Scientists have experimented with weather control since the 1940's, but Spacecast 2020 noted that "using environmental modification techniques to destroy, damage or injure another state are prohibited." Having said that, the Air Force claimed that advances in technology "compels a reexamination of this sensitive and potentially risky topic."
Lest you think only Chossudovsky, Eden or Begich and Manning are concerned with HAARP and weather control, consider scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell, writing in her Background of the HAARP Project:

Poker Flat Rocket Launch (1968 to Present)
The Poker Flat Research Range is located about 50 km North of Fairbanks, Alaska, and it was established in 1968. It is operated by the Geophysical Institute with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, under NASA contract. About 250 major rocket launches have taken place from this site, and in 1994, a 16-meter long rocket was launched to help NASA "understand chemical reactions in the atmosphere associated with global climate change."

(CON'T NEXT POST)

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(CON'T FROM ABOVE)
Posted by: Prophit on Feb 19, 2007 5:31 AM   
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Similar experiments, but using Chemical Release Modules (CRM), have been launched from Churchill, Manitoba. In 1980, Brian Whelan's "Project Waterhole" disrupted an aurora borealis, bringing it to a temporary halt. In February 1983, the chemical released into the ionosphere caused an aurora borealis over Churchill. In March 1989, two Black Brant X's and two Nike Orion rockets were launched over Canada, releasing barium at high altitudes and creating artificial clouds. These Churchill artificial clouds were observed from as far away as Los Alamos, New Mexico.
If that sounds like a future you don't want on your doorstep today, consider the opening paragraphs of Dr. Nick Begich's Star Wars, Star Trek and Killing Politely, linked here in full . . .

Over the last several years Earthpulse has been investigating the latest developments in technology. We explore subjects related to improving the human condition and expose projects which we believe are risky and unnecessary. This essay is about some of the science being developed and contemplated by military planners and others which could profoundly affect our lives. The intent of this essay is to focus discussion on these new systems by bringing them into the light of day.
Is it possible to trigger earthquakes, volcanic eruptions or weather changes by man-made activities? Is it possible to create and direct balls of energy at lightning speeds, to destroy an enemy? Is it possible to manipulate the behavior, and even the memories, of people using specialized technologies? The United States military and others believe that this is the case. Many of these systems are well on their way to being used in the battlefield.
If you believe, as I and others do, that we've gone past the realm of probability into the realm of a dangerous reality, especially given the frequency of catastrophic events, isn't it time to send our own beam of energy to the US government, and demand a full investigation into the activities of HAARP, in particular the manipulation of hurricanes and earthquakes? This kind of activity is another form of terror we live with, because it seems like it can strike anywhere, anytime, in the guise of natural event.

Perhaps it is just Mother Nature kicking up her heels, perhaps not. In either case, a return to reality is called for in these surreal days. The simple presence of HAARP is a form of psychological terror, threatening not just the weather, but the well-being of man and survival of the planet. And that's something you'll never hear from your media weatherman

My comments: This, ladies and gentlemen is getting completely out of control.

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The US Actually Has 6,700 Bases Worldwide
Posted by: PeaceThinkTank.org on Feb 19, 2007 6:18 AM   
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For more information go to;


or go to www.peacethinktank.org

Then go to discussion group, then US Military Bases thread.

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A Couple of Problems
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 19, 2007 7:09 AM   
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#1 Many of the bases located overseas are tiny (by stateside standards) installations inherited from another time and the DOD has actively been involved in consolidating them to a smaller footprint since before the first Gulf War. Background Here.

#2 The Army had already started planning a drawdown of forces before the end of the Cold War. VII Corps, half of our NATO land force, was redeployed stateside after the 1st Gulf War and deactivated. The current drawdown completes the process of reducing a 2 Corps deployment in Germany to less than a Division sized force and has taken about 15 years.

#3 The relocation of forces stateside was not punishment for some states and reward for others. The sites chosen were dictated by geography and economics. Most installations with the room to absorb new units are located in the sunbelt- not older and smaller installations located in the Northeast and Midwest.

Another large consideration was local housing costs as many married service-members reside off post and are entitled to a market adjustment payment. Rents near Ft Leonard Wood, Missouri are significantly lower than Northern Virginia/Metro D.C. Most high cost of living areas were targeted by BRAC long ago unless the facilities jut had to be located in such a place.

I see eye-to eye with Mr Johnson on many things, but know that on t some of this he is either misinformed or has chosen to 'shade' the truth. I choose to think he simply is misinformed.

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Why is this news?
Posted by: DougScott on Feb 19, 2007 7:24 AM   
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In 1997, the neoconservative front organization, Project for a New American Century (PNAC), began promoting foreign policy initiatives not permitted by the Constitution, such as:

1. Global domination with America's armed forces stationed at enduring installations around the world including permanent bases in Iraq, which the Pentagon has never denied.

2. Regime change of governments hostile to U.S interests.

3. First strikes against countries that appear to be a threat.

4. Preventive war.

According to PNAC doctrine published during the Clinton years, to insure that the United States would remain the world's top super power, no other nation would be allowed to reach military parity.

To achieve global domination, PNAC advocated increased defense spending to build an army, air force and navy capable of fighting major land wars in two separate theaters, such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
Not coincidentally, PNAC was founded by the architects of Gulf War 2: Vice President Cheney, Scooter Libby, ex-DOD Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, his former assistant turned World Bank president, Paul Wolfowitz, and the current U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Kahilizad. President Bush is connected to PNAC through his brother, Jeb, one of its founders.

For more information about PNAC, visit www.King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy evidence of White House corruption.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican and author of "George Dub-ya Bush, The PHONY FIGHTER PILOT."

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But we need them...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 19, 2007 7:58 AM   
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.. we need all those bases to protect our interests... from the total lack of threats to our interests outside of wholly legal and legitimate ones.

Prepare for the police state, folks. Its coming.

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The Anomaly: Israel in the Imperial System
Posted by: rwa on Feb 19, 2007 8:50 AM   
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James Petras:



Israel is clearly a colonialist power, with the fourth or fifth biggest nuclear arsenal and the second biggest arms exporter in the world. Its population size, territorial spread and economy however are puny in comparison with the imperial and newly emerging imperial powers. Despite these limitations Israel exercises supreme power in influencing the direction of United States war policy in the Middle East via a powerful Zionist political apparatus, which permeates the State, the mass media, elite economic sectors and civil society. Through Israel’s direct political influence in making US foreign policy, as well as through its overseas military collaboration with dictatorial imperial client regimes, Israel can be considered part of the imperial power configuration despite its demographic constraints, its near universal pariah diplomatic status, and its externally sustained economy.

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Military Spending - Corruption Galore and Escalating
Posted by: sofla100 on Feb 19, 2007 8:58 AM   
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We are continuing to see a massive increase in defense spending. Already, the USA spends more on its military than all the other countries of the world combined do on military spending. Over 1 million contractors are now connected with DOD, and they are milking her dry. Ex-military galore, no-bid contracts, politicians lobbied continuously to "influence" (and it works) DOD for more. The business of Defense is now an integral part of American Business, and it is big. So, those in uniform are only part of it. The real killers, those who design the nukes, the guns, the bombs, are in American offices everywhere, GE, Rayethon, Bechtel, and a thousand other American corporations.

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Are We Really A Nation of Warriors?
Posted by: djnoll on Feb 19, 2007 9:21 AM   
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I was pondering this weekend our military history in view of what is happening and what will happen shortly. Do you realize that we are not a nation who seeks out war until now? We did not seek our revolution until it was thrust upon us by the actions of the British King and Parliament. We had left Europe to seek a new life based on Christian principles that did not include fighting in religious wars among European nations. Our Founding Fathers did not organize an army of mercenaries, they were farmers and shopkeepers who just wanted to be able to make a living for their families. We allow for the keeping of arms in our Constitution for the purpose of protecting our homes, and a national militia was to protect our nation. There was nothing about a permanent standing military force in our history.

We pushed ourselves to a Civil War over differing political and economic views between states, but many of what are now the Western states did not participate in this war because they believed it was not their fight. The people who moved West to find homes and create communities that did not suffer from the violence of the East, both before and after the Civil War. They did not want war, and they did not want to see families torn apart by it. Politicians and businessmen created that war and it nearly destroyed this nation, because we were not warriors at heart.

The First World War was a European War and we were not involved, except where Americans felt a personal belief to fight in it until our shipping was attacked, not unlike the sinking of the battleship Maine started the Spanish-American War several decades earlier. We may have supplied through our corporations the combatants, but we did not want war, and we did not start it.

The Second World War was not a war that the American public wanted either until Pearl Harbor. We were as the Japanese Admiral put it, the sleeping dragon. We were not interested in war with Germany or Japan. FDR knew that if he could get us involved, and Churchill was advocating this, we could finish recovering from the Depression, because nothing stimulates manufacturing like a war. Americans were not seeking war, even though like their fathers many young men had gone to Canada and England to enlist. We did not start that war, but we have been paying the price of our involvement ever since, and it has shaped our history.

In the wars that followed - Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I - we were not the aggressors who started the wars. We honored treaties or UN mandates. We went reluctantly, and we did as we were asked to do by a world that wanted us to act for them. We are not warriors, we are, at heart the peacemakers. But somewhere along the way, we became the puppets of those who are the war makers, and Heaven help us, they now lead us.

The American people must accept that we are not the nation who was built on a premise of war. We were built on the premise of brotherhood and freedom for all. Not necessarily our defiinition of freedom in the sense of American democracy, but rather freedom to choose how a nation wants to exist within the world of nations. We need to stop being the policemen of the world, and we definitely do not want to be the rulers of the world - despite BushCo and Corporate Facism. The American People need to demand, and to act, to bring our countrymen and women home, and then to work to rebuild and restructure our nation to be self-sufficient and peaceful, and if the rest of world does not like that, then perhaps they should start doing the jobs of world policemen and financiers and benefactors themselves. Personally, I am more than a little fed up with the attitude that we are good enough to fight for your oil or to rebuild your continents, but not good enough to treat like decent human beings even before Iraq.

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"realign the global posture"?
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Feb 19, 2007 9:59 AM   
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Bush as a chiropractor? Scary!

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Justin Raimundo:
Posted by: rwa on Feb 19, 2007 10:49 AM   
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"America is, today, the fountainhead of evil in the world. No one is killing people faster, and with more cruelty and indifference, than the warlords of Washington. The temptation is to turn away in disgust and resign oneself to the degeneration of Jefferson's benevolent legacy into a maelstrom of malevolence worthy of Caligula.

Yet the triumph of domination as the guiding principle of U.S. foreign policy is not inevitable, or irreversible. Its overthrow, however, requires a moral reawakening...

Sooner or later, the American people must be made to understand that the choice is between noninterventionism and barbarism. Americans are naïve: they believe in the myth of automatic progress, the illusion of history as an ever ascending stairway to higher levels of civilization, but the truth is far grimmer. Empires rise – and fall. Dark ages follow. The kind of degeneracy we are now seeing acted out in Iraq promises a fall that will plumb new depths of darkness."

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1000 Bases to Bomb Sheep
Posted by: maxloen on Feb 19, 2007 10:52 AM   
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You have to understand that, after all, we are right to be upset. We had big plans to use your boys to make sure all the world's strategic assets we bought with the money we raided with the privatization of the Social Security Fund were going to remain ours for as long as we wanted them, or we would have sent your marines to remind whoever deposed our minions that we had the signed Deeds and Titles.
Since our own kids are lobbyists and investment bankers, or travelling, we have no choice but to send your dysfunctional 'console killers' generation to stand the brunt of foreign isolation and hatred. Not surprising they bomb sheep, although I presume they would rather f..k'em.

Now the monkey wrench thrown into this grandiose plans are the internet blogs. If we cannot 'control the gates', we may, as Prophit says, HAARP it to 'disrupt it.' (We don't mind being Harpies, OK?) Or Making Martial Law Easier and repeal your Posse Comitatus shit!
Be good patriots, rent another storage space, and go shopping!

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What was that bumper sticker I saw? Something like....
Posted by: WitchyNy on Feb 19, 2007 11:18 AM   
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AMERICA...BE NICE TO US OR WE WILL BRING DEMOCRACY TO YOUR COUNTRY!

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AmuriKan Empire?
Posted by: Doubtom on Feb 19, 2007 11:40 AM   
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Congratulations for finally figuring out that we've become an empire--now will you make the effort to get that taught in our schools?
Gee, next you'll be informing us that "War is a Racket"

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Jeez, now you tell us
Posted by: dayahka on Feb 19, 2007 11:47 AM   
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American Republic? There hasn't been one for at least the last fifty years. We have an oligarchy. There never was a democracy; that's a mythological illusion.

How long will the delusions continue? Only two things could end it...One, a group of other nations band together to destroy the US; this is unlikely since it would require a weapon that could repel a nuclear counter-attack...Two, the US is destroyed from within. This is possible and likely, but cannot be predicted; something like the plague may do it.

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