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'Chauvinistic' Husbands in Japan Change to Keep Their Wives

By Catherine Makino, Women's eNews. Posted February 12, 2007.


A group of self-confessed chauvinist men in Japan are committed to changing their bad marital habits -- finding ways to feel comfortable saying "thank you" and "sorry."

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A group of Japanese men say they have the answer to marital bliss.

In September, they gathered in suits and ties outside a busy train station in Tokyo and chanted their Three Principles of Love: saying "sorry" without fear, saying "thank you" without hesitation and saying "I love you" without shame.

The group, which started with a handful of members in 1999, claims 800 members and expects that its program of seminars throughout the country this year will boost enrollment exponentially.

Members of the group, called the National Chauvinistic Husband's Association, have a goal of making their true feelings known to their wives, representing a push to change the nation's famously non-demonstrative culture.

The association says declarations of the Three Principles are what women want to hear, and husbands will have better marriages if they can say these words without wavering.

These formerly old-fashioned husbands are serious about becoming modern-style spouses and aim to give men a chance to learn how to communicate better with their families, have a relationship based on equality and become loving husbands.

Declining Marriage Rates

They even hope they'll help curb the nation's declining marriage rate, fueled not only by an increase in divorce but also by delayed marriage among women, whose mean age for marrying has increased 2.5 years in the past two decades, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications.

The more educated a Japanese woman, the more likely she will wait for wedlock; among women aged 25 to 29, 40 percent are single, but among university graduates of similar ages 54 percent are single.

"If husbands will not change, the future will be very dark for Japan, so we are enticing men to join our group and learn to change their attitudes," says 54-year-old Shuichi Amano, who founded Japan's National Chauvinistic Husband's Association in 1999 after his wife threatened to divorce him. "Families will adjust and then Japan will change in a positive way."

Ito Itamoto, a Tokyo marriage counselor, agrees.

"Japanese women are choosing to marry later, so they can only have one child, or not marry at all," Itamoto says. "Seventy percent of divorces are filed by women. It used to be because of domestic violence or gambling, but these days it is because women realize their husband's priority is the company they work for and not their families. The women also say men do not know how to communicate."

Amano, a resident of Fukuoka City, Kyuushu Island, says his wife woke him up to the need save his marriage.

"It happened when I came home late one evening from work and asked my wife if she thought it was strange that suddenly all the middle-aged men around me were getting divorced," he said. "My wife said, 'Well, I think you will be next.'"

'Broke Out in Cold Sweat'

Amano said he was shocked, he broke out in a cold sweat and his heart "stopped" because he knew his wife was serious. After that initial jolt, he reflected on his past relationship with his wife and daughters. He realized as a busy writer and editor for a publishing company, he was a typical chauvinist and, furthermore, he took pride in it.

"I realized I had only communicated three things to my wife: 'furo,' 'meshi' and 'neru,' which mean 'bath,' 'dinner' and 'sleep,'" he said. "It is the typical way for a strong husband to communicate with his family."


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Catherine Makino is a freelance writer in Tokyo. She has written for the San Francisco Chronicle, the Japan Times, the Asian Wall Street Journal and the China Morning Post.

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Concept of what is and isn´t machismo
Posted by: ZPaul on Feb 12, 2007 1:46 AM   
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Intereresting. I realize that some may consider level 4 to have something of machismo -- some consider "ladies first" to invariably be a condescending macho gesture -- but I see it as something quite positive, when done in the right spirit. Deference to someone you care about, IMO, is a good thing, and conducive to an enjoyable relationship.

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Try to understand this in the context of Japan
Posted by: medstudgeek on Feb 12, 2007 3:56 AM   
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They're much more into being a good soldier and obedient--the whole aggressive American business personality isn't expected over there. So what wives are afraid of is spending lots of time at work rather than the supreme cockiness that annoys many American feminists. Also, Japan is a traditional culture, so 'ladies first' is likely to be seen as consideration rather than sexism.

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living in Japan
Posted by: brothereast8 on Feb 12, 2007 3:57 AM   
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As someone from the United States who has lived in Japan for 8 and a half years, I can say it is truly a breath of fresh air to hear about a Japanese men's group who is actively reforming themselves. I have heard many Japanese ladies complain that "Japanese men are too shy" or "They don't express themselves."

Some ladies say, "I only want to marry a/an (insert any European country's name or "American" or "Canadian")man. They are better than Japanese men." (That is an actual quote. I have heard many variations of the same statement)

When I hear such comments, I say to the lady or ladies, she should find a good man with a good heart and mind first. His external packaging will take care of its self.

I do hope the masses of Japanese men will learn to think and do as the men in this group have learned to think and do.

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» Me, too... Posted by: ABetterFuture
I like the concept of nurturant and free thinking arranged marriages in Japan and India.
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 12, 2007 4:36 AM   
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It sure beats romantic-only marriages. It's already a major embarrassment to watch our country go up in divorce rate and/or damaged relationships despite the fact that this is supposedly a "free" country where most people marry out of "love". Thank god I had better communication skills and better understanding of relationships that schools never teach before I got married.

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Karoshi capitalism is the fundamental problem
Posted by: shinseiji on Feb 12, 2007 8:31 AM   
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Japanese, men or women, are worked to exhaustion and even death (過労死, karoshi) by their bosses. They are expected to put their company above everything else in life, including spouse and children (by, for instance, not having any, hence Japan has the lowest birth rate in the world). Japanese workers take, on average, only half the 18 days of paid holiday they are entitled to, according to the government, and they are constantly pressured by their bosses to not take their vacation. This problem is so bad that the government health and welfare ministry said it was considering introducing a law compelling firms to tell workers to take all their paid holiday!

See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/japan/story/0,7369,1687925,00.html

From my gaikokujin experience, Japanese women with careers behave the same way (except they also do housework, etc) - they will put job before marriage.

Given this context, these Japanese men are to be doubly congratulated for at least trying. But there will not be a more general improvement in mens' behavior towards women until such a wretched system is changed.

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» mostly agree Posted by: mbianco
who gets to rank the dudes?
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 12, 2007 9:02 AM   
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I wonder if the wives get to do the rankings or if the men do it?

In an American version of this I'm sure most males would rate themelves disproportionately high, fully believing they were being accurate. There are psuedo-versions of this (self-improvement vis a vis a man's significant others) in the American mythopoetic movement but I have to say as the mp is pretty much an essentialist movement, it tends to have a hyper-masculine drift that skews the results. For median and hypo-masculine males involved in the movement, that's a constant irritant. But this is off-topic.

I just wondered who gets to rank the men in Japan?

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The Man's Prayer
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Feb 12, 2007 9:18 AM   
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This is pretty much the def of totally PW'ed... sounds suspiciously like the spoof which Red Green does called 'The Man's Prayer':
"I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess..."

So women find the money box and the guilt-tripper switch quicker than any man could? This is global news? 800 members? What a triumph for womankind.

What Women Want: Who Cares? (this is Part I, of V)

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» RE: The Man's Prayer Posted by: mviscid
» RE: CALL TO LOGIC Posted by: MartianBachelor
» RE: CALL TO LOGIC Posted by: fork
India isn't an exemplar!
Posted by: mbianco on Feb 12, 2007 1:02 PM   
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While Japan may be an exemplar of "free" arranged marriages, India certainly is not. While there are bound to be many arranged marriages in India that are more or less free in that the individuals party to the marriage can decline the matchmaker's offer, there's still plenty of instances of forced marriages, exorbitant dowries, bride burning, etc. such that one cannot deny these problems remain an injustice with institutional dimensions. And even those more "enlightened" families among the better-off castes that allow for a "free" arranged marriage, I wonder how many of them would still grant that freedom if their son or daughter turned down all of the offered candidates and instead wanted to get hitched with a muslim or a hindu of a lower caste.

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CALL TO THE SISTERS--Don't breed with insensitive men!
Posted by: maribelle on Feb 12, 2007 2:34 PM   
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They even hope they'll help curb the nation's declining marriage rate, fueled not only by an increase in divorce but also by delayed marriage among women,

"Japanese women are choosing to marry later, so they can only have one child, or
not marry at all," Itamoto says. "Seventy percent of divorces are filed by women.


More evidence for a long held theory of mine: men will willingly change their ways when women leave them for being insensitive. NO woman should put up with a man who can't say "I'm sorry", "thank you" and "I love you." And why on earth would you even have a second date with a man who can't "listen seriously" to you, let alone marry him! Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.

How is that list a continuum? Seriously--Men lacking some of the most basic of these 10 abilities should be seriously discouraged from breeding. Ladies, its up to us to save the day --and the gene pool. Sisters, if you're married to an unrepentant asshat, do society and the gene pool a favor and quietly leave his sorry ass. If you haven't had children with him run don't walk to the exit. DO NOT BREED WITH THIS MAN. If you already have, get a good lawyer, and a restraining order if neccessary. There are women's shelters that can help you if you need it.

Just think of it, a mass exodus of women with wings, putting up with nothing from man who oppress them. Save it for the nice guys (or for your kids, your friends and your own sweet self.)

(In a related story, a NYTimes columnist (Krugman I think) recommended last week that Laura Bush take a suggestion from the classic play "Lysistrata." :-)

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» Excellent idea, maribelle Posted by: Torgo
» Thanks, maribelle Posted by: Torgo
Does it mean ...
Posted by: Falang on Feb 12, 2007 2:36 PM   
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That they will let go the minor or second wife?

That they will break the century old habit of going to see prostitute?

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I think it's sweet...
Posted by: Aussie Kim on Feb 12, 2007 10:13 PM   
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...and good luck to them!

Maybe married couples in Japan will start having more sex from now on - did you know there are couples who have been married for YEARS and have never had sex (with each other, anyway) even once?

More power to them - the sooner the cycle and tradition of Absolute Loyalty to the Company and the 70-hour Working Week is broken and people realise they can spend fulfilling and relaxing time with their families, the better. :)

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RE: I think it's sweet...
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Feb 12, 2007 10:27 PM   
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It's funny that him working 70 hour weeks isn't viewed as an act of self-sacrifice in an attempt to make their life better. Instead, he's a workaholic and needs a 10-step program. (The Japanese are so efficient they even need two fewer steps than us...)

Or, just maybe, he's working 70 hour weeks in the first place because life at home is so unbearable.

> ...did you know there are couples who have been married for YEARS
> and have never had sex (with each other, anyway) even once?

I'm glad to say I did not know that. Thanks - that's why I read AlterNet!

Here in the States there's a group trying to put a new law on the ballot which would require couples to have a kid within three years or their marriage would be declared null and void. Maybe something like that would motivate the Japanese to get down to business...

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Perhaps Japanese men could use 'comfort' women again...
Posted by: Blue Heron on Feb 13, 2007 3:31 PM   
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as they have done in past wars. Hey, they work all that overtime - they should be able to afford it. It seems to me that such unfeeling automatons don't deserve anything near as deluxe as a wife.

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Sounds like a club for self-hating-feminized males...
Posted by: Landbaron on Feb 18, 2007 11:14 PM   
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For shame!

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intentions
Posted by: candara on Feb 19, 2007 1:59 AM   
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Hah, they're only changing because it's more palatable than doing their own laundry and cooking. And getting pats on the back for it. Pretty ingenious.

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