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Time's Joe Klein: a Supreme Suck-Up

By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com. Posted February 7, 2007.


Joe Klein is the living incarnation of American "conventional wisdom" -- a spineless, slavish watcher of polls who has no problem whatsoever denying today what he said yesterday.

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I have a personal connection to Joe Klein, the Time columnist and ex-anonymous author of Primary Colors. His son and I used to share an office at the Moscow Times about 12 years ago. There were a couple of cute Russian girls in the office who were best friends and Chris and I each dated one of them. Chris ended up marrying his; my relationship with the other one didn't last very long, although she was one of the funniest people I've ever met: Tanya's big thing was crushing beer cans against her head and singing the Soviet national anthem naked. She was like John Belushi with tits.

I lost touch with Chris after I left the Moscow Times in 1996. Like most politics junkies I went on to read Primary Colors, and saw the movie (Emma Thompson's most horrifying role, with her terminal-cancer victim in Wit a distant second) and halfheartedly indulged in the literary whodunit over the author's identity. When Klein was outed as the writer there was a brief flurry of phone calls between Moscow Times vets chuckling over the news; I even seem to remember a couple of us using the occasion as an excuse to get together to get drunk one last time.

And that was that; I didn't think about the Kleins again until I came back to the U.S. a few years back and started actually reading the elder's columns. I was initially confused because my original impression of Joe Klein, from afar, had been that of a gossipy, bourgeois suck-up to the Clinton administration. When I came home in 2002, however, the columns I saw under his name seemed to have been penned by a gossipy, bourgeois suck-up to the Bush administration.

I was particularly struck by a piece he wrote in November, 2003 ("It's time for extreme peacekeeping" 11/16/03) in which he argued that the Iraq war was not inspiring idealistic, well-educated young people to military service because no snazzy-sounding special "extreme peacekeeper" corps had been created to attract them. Klein noted that young people had been drawn into the military during the Kennedy administration because, in part, of the "panache" of the then-new special forces uniforms:

At a similar moment, in the early 1960s, when the front lines of the cold war had spread from Germany to the Congo and Vietnam, John F. Kennedy announced his support for an augmented counterinsurgency force -- and gave those soldiers real panache by allowing them to wear headgear frowned upon by the traditional military: green berets.

Klein went on to say that the "excellent nation-building efforts" of the U.S. in Iraq (at that time, in November of '03, Klein was still calling war reports "good news") could similarly attract a new generation of special soldiers if only Bush would make the same kind of appeal to that class of youth. The new fighting class Klein envisioned was a kind of turbocharged warrior-yuppie who went to kick ass in Iraq as a professional career move:

Call them Extreme Peacekeepers or the Freedom Corps or whatever, but seek out the sort of people who aren't normally inclined to join the military -- idealistic college students who hope to become doctors, lawyers, politicians or engineers and are eager to do something noble (and burnish their resumes) by serving their country.

So, to translate, here's Klein's take on the army in the post-Vietnam era:

After sending a generation of idealistic young whippersnappers off to war in Southeast Asia with snazzy new unis, we end up killing two million people from one of the poorest agrarian countries on earth, turning huge sections of North Vietnam as well as illegally-bombed Laos and Cambodia into permanent moonscapes, and sending 60,000 Americans home in body bags, with tens of thousands more coming back crippled, poisoned, or psychologically ravaged. We furthermore let it get out that we started the war under false pretenses and kept up the fight long after even the Pentagon knew the whole thing was a hopeless waste of lives and money. Beyond that, we dump deadly poison on 5.6 million acres of a state the size of New Mexico, creating conditions that would leave every hospital in South Vietnam filling storage rooms, for the next thirty years, with two-and three-headed babies in jars. Photographers like Phillip Jones Griffiths would come back decades later with horrifying galleries of thousands of twisted genetic freaks left to lie for years on mats in malarial villages...


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Matt, Matt, Matt...
Posted by: JPerry on Feb 7, 2007 1:11 PM   
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While I agree with you re: Joe Klein, weren't you and your fellow Dean-ocrites guilty of doing the same thing, propagandizing, and acting as a water carrier for the right wing smear campaign against Kerry? I haven't forgotten.

Howard Dean was a joke of a candidate. Even his most passionate supporters couldn't defend his lousy policies from his days as governor of Vermont.. in fact, that's why they had to rely on bullying and censorship of those who just wanted to ask questions regarding the legitimacy of his claim to be a good candidate.. or even to deserve the tinsel halo bought and paid for by that jackass, Joe Trippi.

Also, regarding your taking a stand for liberals.. and inferring that there is no leftist elite of any significance.. well, my memory does serve, and sorry, but the leftist elite is as bad as the right wing elite. There's not a difference between them.. except for who either extreme would put in power, but even then.. difference not important enough to matter.

I'm a democrat, I'm an average American, and like so many others like myself, we don't fall for the BS the left spouts, nor would we fall for the sham candidates you attempt to snow us with. We actually expect, and deserve honest and ethical candidates. John Kerry was such a candidate.

Again, agree with you on Klein, but the truth is, you and he both love to waffle.

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Nice rant
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Feb 7, 2007 10:55 PM   
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One thing: the tide is turning. Kennedy's gonna live long enough to see revulsion over the wingnut idiocracy grow to the boiling point. The American public (collectively) ain't smart and has an amazingly short memory - but they ain't quite as stupid as they would need to be to put up with much more of this shit. Just watch.

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» RE: Nice rant Posted by: paschn
like Taibbi can throw stones
Posted by: schnoggi on Feb 8, 2007 7:10 AM   
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yeah, Mr. Integrity there himself to the front please

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Nailed the dismount
Posted by: Praxis on Feb 8, 2007 12:35 PM   
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"...[I]f we see a guy step off the top of the Empire State Building, we're supposed to root for him to nail the dismount."

What a great line, hilarious and insightful. I light up whenever I see that Alternet has posted a Taibbi piece. We may have lost Molly Ivins and Hunter S. Thompson, but we've still got Matt Taibbi channeling them both at once.

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» RE: Nailed the dismount Posted by: Blanktivist
frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Feb 8, 2007 2:12 PM   
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Joe Klein is just another one of the MSM stenographers. Inside-the-belway BS'ers are a dime a dozen.

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Damn, you are awesome
Posted by: longdaysjourney on Feb 8, 2007 7:24 PM   
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Can I marry you? Seriously. Please have many, many, many children.

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And for first suckup dull conventional wisdom runnerup...
Posted by: edith on Feb 9, 2007 2:18 AM   
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Tim Russert, Establishment suckup who lives and dies with polls. His blabbing at the Lewis Libby trial simply displays the incestuous relationship between the "independent" press and an Administration that "doesn't" care what the polls or press say.

Ha. Ha. You phony Tim, you.

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Immaturity in print
Posted by: edsmith on Feb 9, 2007 5:47 AM   
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Matt, are you some kind of woman hater. Why didn't you jsut call the Russian girs Bimbos. You referrd to the girls as His and mine and called on of them John Belushi with tits - she made quite an impression on you, heh? And what talents do you have that would equal yourself to her? Maybe you write about Joe Klein (who I despise for less personal reasons than you do) as, say, Joan Collins talks about wardrobes on Oscar night. Grow up and leave your personal issues where they belong.

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cheerleader
Posted by: Pippi on Feb 9, 2007 6:46 AM   
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I have no problem with being accused of "rooting for an American failure" in Iraq. The war is illegal and immoral. If America were to "succeed" (whatever THAT means!) in this war, our leaders would not think twice about waging other illegal and immoral wars. Indeed, they would be encouraged to do so. Nothing succeeds like success. I root for America to fail at being a bully "in the face" of the rest of the world. Perhaps lives will be saved and we can begin to restore America's honor.

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The American media and government are all cocksuckers
Posted by: Ghoulman on Feb 9, 2007 7:36 AM   
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... and have been for some time.

They will do or say anything to pay off their mortgage. They don't care how many people are tortured, bombed, or just plain raped to death. The days of the rugged American, the strong individualist secure in his Rights, are gone.

You are either with us or against us, Bush said. Does that sound American?

There are sooo many stories now about how some American would stand up for their rights and get fired, thrown in jail, or simply be attacked and ostracized for being what used to be an American ideal.

The anger of this article reminded me of that rugged individual who wouldn't stand for smarmy, lying, cock sucking, from weak-willed lemmings.

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» RE: How gay is edsmith? Posted by: Ghoulman
» RE: How gay is edsmith? Posted by: edsmith
Edsmith, Edsmith, Edsmith..
Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive on Feb 9, 2007 9:12 AM   
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"I stopped reading RS years ago. It's not even close to what it was when journalsim was a respected profession. Now journalists are like used car salesmen. Actually, IMHO todays 95% of all journalists are ego driven entertianers at best and less trustworthy than the schmoe down at the corner used car lot. I haven't touched a newspaper in over a year, or, watched newsertainment in over six months - except for Olberman, Amy, Stewert and Colbert, there's not a damn thing worth investing my attention in on brodcast."

Speaking of a mysogynist...actually a dipshit seeking attention! I'm so fucking interested in your opinion,,,yeah, sure. You apparently love to attack any well-written article so it draws attention to you. Why don't you take your opinion and put it where the sun doesn't shine!

I thought it was an incisive, bitter, extremely well done article.
Kudos...more of the same!

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I'd give my left testicle to see this article in Newsweek
Posted by: thistleblower on Feb 9, 2007 9:26 AM   
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This is exactly what needs to be told the big fat bulging center in this country. Too damn bad this site mostly attracts Leisure Lefties.

Anyway to get Alternet articles picked up by aggregators like newsvine? I've seen plenty of editorializations there.

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Klein's not the only one
Posted by: Democritus on Feb 9, 2007 11:35 AM   
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Matt Taibbi nailed Joe Klein, and it's about time. But Klein is just the tip of the iceberg. All the mainstream columnists are suck-ups to the corporate colossus that feeds them. If it weren't for Rolling Stone and the occasional New Yorker piece we would have no honest reporting. Unfortunately, the present crop of Democratic presidential candidates seem to be sucking up to the media, as well. When are we going to get a candidate who isn't afraid to mention the words 'oil' and 'permanent bases' when he or she speaks of the war in Iraq? Is it because there is still some dark hope that we'll be able to grab the riches of the Middle East after all? What's all this nonsense about Iran's being a serious threat? Threat to whom? We're hearing the same drumbeat to war that was sounded before we invaded Iraq. Our Democratic leadership didn't stand up in protest then. Are they going to stand up now? If not, then none of them is worth voting for.

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Joe Klein--Careerist buttsucker (although I did like Primary Colors)
Posted by: greenpagan on Feb 9, 2007 11:54 AM   
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If you're familiar with local NYC TV for the past few decades you know it's no news what a weasel he is. However...he definitely doesn't have a monopoly on weaseldom. Unfortunately, the corporate media rewards such utter whorishness.

Klein is the kind of guy who can cheerscream Ronald Reagan one year & after the political tide turns condemn him the next. As long as the dollars keep flowing his way.

We're not talking about I.F. Stone or George Seldes here folks. I even have my doubts about Keith Olbermann these days. Since the Midterms he's been meek. Punked? Unless maybe I haven't been watching him religiously as I was wont to do before the elections.

What bugs me is all the humor news from the Left. I realize you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. However, can you imagine Edward R. Murrow cracking jokes about Joe McCarthy...?

GOP dis U.S. , every one...

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Maybe you RS readers can help me...
Posted by: harris on Feb 9, 2007 3:15 PM   
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Is is a requirement at RS to establish "street cred" by bragging about how much you love to drink and how little you respect women within the first two paragraphs?

Or is that just Taibbi style?

I'm sure every mature, thinking reader is highly impressed by his fratboy-like Peter Pan wannabe supercoolness.

In reality, I barely had the patience to plow through the first two paragraphs of barely comprehensible ego-bursting goofiness, so I skipped the rest - because I'm waiting for-

the article he personally promised Alternet readers months ago on the actual physical facts of the 9-11.
Isn't he a good enough journalist to whip that one out like nothing if there's really nothing there, if the arguments are so weak?
Where is it?
Did I miss it?
I searched all his articles on Alternet and it's not there yet.

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immaturity in print
Posted by: Moira61 on Feb 9, 2007 5:13 PM   
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Yeah, I immediately lost interest with the "John Belushi with tits" comment. The author needs to grow up. I haven't bought a RS in years - and sure as hell won't anytime soon.

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It's not MY fault!
Posted by: zipper696 on Feb 10, 2007 7:11 AM   
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The early signs of Rightists calling anti-war movements "Cheering on America's defeat" or " Giving support to our enemies" is the first step in the "Post-war" analysis of "who did what".

When (not if) we retire in disarray with (probably) 5,000 dead Americans and 100,000 dead Iraqis the counter attack in the media by the Right (The vietnam Gambit) will be "We could have won in Iraq, but the Left cut the funding, changed the rules, restricted our methods" - in other words the sabre rattling chickenhawks will have had NOTHING to do with starting, fighting or losing the war, it will all be down to Michael Moore and Jon Stewart.

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joe klein
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Feb 10, 2007 8:16 PM   
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I wish I could be there everytime one of those chickenshit little bastards started up one of these bullshit remarks about where they stand on the war etc. so I could bitch slap them into submission and make them admit the horrible truth about what kind of assholes they really are

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M. Taibbi = POT –> Joe Klein = KETTLE
Posted by: Hal on Feb 10, 2007 10:14 PM   
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No need to ask which is blacker morally or ethically. As MSM carny barkers at the ersatz “left”, both are deadweight hacks paid to misdirect the suckers and prop up the oligarch run limited hangout runway farce at Washington.

M. Taibbi tells us a transparent 911 cover-up is just what DC claims it is and J. Klein sells Iraq War Inc. as the cost of doing business. It’s Tweedle-De-Dee or Tweedle-De-Dumb and it’s pointless to tell them apart.

Give it up, Taibbi. Your low-rent, petty righteous act fools none but the gullible.

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Try and remember, America
Posted by: pete ess on Feb 11, 2007 12:30 AM   
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that leaders of other countries are just that: "Leaders of other countries". Leave us alone! If you don't like our leaders, do anything LEGAL you like, but for Joe Klein (and how many others) to believe "Saddam had to go . ." is such stupid arrogance. If we have to look for leaders who should be kicked out by force, let's look for unelected madmen with weapons of mass destruction who disobey international law. Like George W Bush lite. And then let's realise that it is no-one's job to kick them out but their own people. NO-ONE'S!

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Gary J Minter
Posted by: garyjminter on Feb 11, 2007 9:32 PM   
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I've basically given up on politics and journalism in the United States of Amerika....both major parties are controlled by the corporate bosses and wealthy families of Amerika, and the news media are even worse, they are literally owned by the corporate bosses (some of which are major defense contractors) and wealthy families of Amerika.

So, goodbye, and good luck, I'll be going back to "communist" China in two weeks, where I have far more personal freedom and pay lower taxes than here in the USA....

Sorry to leave you, my good friends and colleagues, I wish you well, but I must go back....

Gary

(Gary J. Minter)
http://aidsvillagechina.blog.sohu.com
www.healthchina.org

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felt good reading it ...
Posted by: bkreader on Mar 5, 2007 12:59 PM   
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But according to Klein, if we see a guy step off the top of the Empire State Building, we're supposed to root for him to nail the dismount.

Its time someone said it and held the op-ed writers accountable. Who will hold Tom Friedman accountable for the "6 more month" routine?

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