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Bush Could Usher in a Very Dangerous New Year

Intelligence sources say President Bush -- along with Israel's Ehud Olmert and the UK's Tony Blair -- are weighing the possibility of Israeli-led attacks on Syria and Iran in early 2007, with the United States providing logistical back-up.
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The first two or three months of 2007 represent a dangerous opening for an escalation of war in the Middle East, as George W. Bush will be tempted to "double-down" his gamble in Iraq by joining with Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and outgoing British Prime Minister Tony Blair to strike at Syria and Iran, intelligence sources say.

President Bush's goal would be to transcend the bloody quagmire bogging down U.S. forces in Iraq by achieving "regime change" in Syria and by destroying nuclear facilities in Iran, two blows intended to weaken Islamic militants in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

The Israeli army and air force would carry the brunt of any new fighting albeit with the support of beefed-up U.S. ground and naval forces in the Middle East, the sources said. Bush is now considering a "surge" in U.S. troop levels in Iraq from about 140,000 to as many as 170,000. He also has dispatched a second aircraft carrier group to the coast of Iran.

So far, however, Bush has confronted stiff opposition from the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs of Staff to the plan for raising troop levels in Iraq, partly because the generals don't think it makes sense to commit more troops without a specific military mission.

But it's unclear how much the generals know about the expanded-war option which has been discussed sometimes in one-on-one meetings among the principals -- Bush, Olmert and Blair -- according to intelligence sources.

Since the Nov. 7 congressional elections, the three leaders have conducted a round-robin of meetings that on the surface seem to have little purpose. Olmert met privately with Bush on Nov. 13; Blair visited the White House on Dec. 7; and Blair conferred with Olmert in Israel on Dec. 18.

All three leaders could salvage their reputations if a wider war broke out in the Middle East and then broke in their favor.

Bush and Blair spearheaded the March 2003 invasion of Iraq that has since turned into a disastrous occupation. In summer 2006, Olmert launched offensives against Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon, drawing international condemnation for the deaths of hundreds of civilians and domestic criticism for his poorly designed war plans.

The three leaders also find themselves cornered by political opponents. Bush's Republican Party lost control of both the House and Senate on Nov. 7; Blair succumbed to pressure from his own Labour Party and agreed to step down in spring 2007; and Olmert is suffering from widespread public disgust over the failed Lebanese war.

Yet, despite these reversals, the three leaders have rebuffed advice from more moderate advisers that they adopt less confrontational strategies and consider unconditional negotiations with their Muslim adversaries.

Most dramatically, Bush spurned a bipartisan Iraq Study Group plan that was co-authored by the Bush Family's long-time counselor, former Secretary of State James Baker.

Instead of heeding Baker's advice to begin a drawdown of U.S. troops from Iraq and start talks with Iran and Syria, Bush rejected the notion of a "graceful exit" and then set unacceptable preconditions for talks with Iran and Syria.

In other words, Baker tossed a life preserver to Bush who threw it back.

Victory agenda

Bush has continued to insist on "victory" in Iraq and has again ratcheted up his rhetoric. He now talks about waging a long war against Islamic "radicals and extremists," not just the original goal of defeating "terrorists with global reach."

At his news conference on Dec. 20, Bush cast this wider struggle against Islamists as a test of American manhood and perseverance by demonstrating to the enemy that "they can't run us out of the Middle East, that they can't intimidate America."

Bush suggested, too, that painful decisions lay ahead in the New Year.

"I'm not going to make predictions about what 2007 will look like in Iraq, except that it's going to require difficult choices and additional sacrifices, because the enemy is merciless and violent," Bush said.

Rather than scale back his neoconservative dream of transforming the Middle East, Bush argued for an expanded U.S. military to wage this long war.

"We must make sure that our military has the capability to stay in the fight for a long period of time," Bush said. "I'm not predicting any particular theater, but I am predicting that it's going to take a while for the ideology of liberty to finally triumph over the ideology of hate. ...

"We're in the beginning of a conflict between competing ideologies -- a conflict that will determine whether or not your children can live in a peace. A failure in the Middle East, for example, or failure in Iraq, or isolationism, will condemn a generation of young Americans to permanent threat from overseas."

So, rather than looking for a way out of the Iraq quagmire, Bush -- now waist deep in the muck -- is determined to press on.

Bush's dilemma, however, is that time is working against him. Not only are the American people increasingly angry about U.S. troops caught in the middle of a sectarian civil war in Iraq, but Bush's domestic and international political bases continue to erode.

Blair, who is widely derided in the United Kingdom as "Bush's poodle," is nearing the end of his tenure, and Bush's Republican Party is worried about Election 2008 if American soldiers are still dying in Iraq in two years.

Plus, few military analysts believe a temporary troop "surge" alone will stop the steady deterioration in Iraq. Bush acknowledged as much at his news conference.

"In order to do so ['the surge'], there must be a specific mission that can be accomplished with more troops," Bush said. "That's precisely what our commanders have said, as well as people who know a lot about military operations. And I agree with them that there's got to be a specific mission that can be accomplished with the addition of more troops before I agree on that strategy."

Though not making much sense as a way to quell the civil strife in Iraq, a U.S. military buildup could help protect American interests in Iraq if Israeli attacks on Syria and Iran touch off retaliation against U.S. and British targets.

Wider war

For Bush, this idea of expanding the war outside Iraq also is not new. Since spring 2006, Bush reportedly has been weighing military options for bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, but he has encountered resistance from senior U.S. military officers.

As investigative reporter Seymour Hersh wrote in The New Yorker, a number of senior U.S. officers were troubled by administration war planners who believed "bunker-busting" tactical nuclear weapons, known as B61-11s, were the only way to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities buried deep underground.

A former senior intelligence official told Hersh that the White House refused to remove the nuclear option from the plans despite objections from the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "Whenever anybody tries to get it out, they're shouted down," the ex-official said.

By late April 2006, however, the Joint Chiefs finally got the White House to agree that using nuclear weapons to destroy Iran's uranium-enrichment plant at Natanz, less than 200 miles south of Tehran, was politically unacceptable, Hersh reported.

"Bush and [Vice President Dick] Cheney were dead serious about the nuclear planning," one former senior intelligence official said.

But -- even with the nuclear option off the table -- senior U.S. military officials worried about the political and economic fallout from a massive bombing campaign against Iran. Hersh wrote:

"Inside the Pentagon, senior commanders have increasingly challenged the President's plans, according to active-duty and retired officers and officials. The generals and admirals have told the Administration that the bombing campaign will probably not succeed in destroying Iran's nuclear program. They have also warned that an attack could lead to serious economic, political, and military consequences for the United States."

Hersh quoted a retired four-star general as saying, "The system is starting to sense the end of the road, and they don't want to be condemned by history. They want to be able to say, 'We stood up.' "

Beyond the dangers from Iran's nuclear program, the Bush administration views the growing Shiite crescent across the Middle East as a threat to U.S. influence.

Washington Post foreign policy analyst Robin Wright wrote that U.S. officials told her that "for the United States, the broader goal is to strangle the axis of Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and Iran, which the Bush administration believes is pooling resources to change the strategic playing field in the Middle East."

By summer 2006, Israeli sources were describing Bush's interest in finding a pretext to hit back at Syria and Iran. That opening came when border tensions with Hamas in Gaza and with Hezbollah in Lebanon led to the capture of three Israeli soldiers and a rapid Israeli escalation of the conflict into an air-and-ground campaign against Lebanon.

Bush and his neoconservative advisers saw the Israeli-Lebanese conflict as an opportunity to expand the fighting into Syria and achieve the long-sought "regime change" in Damascus, Israeli sources said.

One Israeli source told me that Bush's interest in spreading the war to Syria was considered "nuts" by some senior Israeli officials, although Prime Minister Olmert generally shared Bush's hard-line strategy against Islamic militants.

In an article on July 30, 2006. the Jerusalem Post also hinted at the Israeli rejection of Bush's suggestion of a wider war into Syria. "Defense officials told the Post ... that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria," the newspaper reported.

In August 2006, the Inter-Press Service provided additional details, reporting that the message was passed to Israel by Bush's deputy national security adviser Elliott Abrams, who had been a central figure in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s.

"In a meeting with a very senior Israeli official, Abrams indicated that Washington would have no objection if Israel chose to extend the war beyond to its other northern neighbor, leaving the interlocutor in no doubt that the intended target was Syria," a source told the Inter-Press Service.

In December 2006, Meyray Wurmser, a leading U.S. neoconservative whose spouse is a Middle East adviser to Vice President Cheney, confirmed that neocons in and outside the Bush administration had hoped Israel would attack Syria as a means of undermining the insurgents in Iraq.

"If Syria had been defeated, the rebellion in Iraq would have ended," Wurmser said in an interview with Yitzhak Benhorin of the Ynet Web site. "A great part of it was the thought that Israel should fight against the real enemy, the one backing Hezbollah. ... If Israel had hit Syria, it would have been such a harsh blow for Iran that it would have weakened it and (changed) the strategic map in the Middle East."

In early 2007, the revival of this neoconservative strategy of using the Israeli military to oust the Syrian government and to inflict damage on Iran's nuclear program may represent a last-ditch -- and high-risk -- gamble by Bush and the neocons to salvage their historic legacy.

If that is the case, then Bush will approve "the surge" in U.S. forces into Iraq, which likely will be followed by some provocation that can be blamed on Syria or Iran, thus justifying the expanded war.

Betting the lives of American soldiers and countless civilians across the Middle East, Bush will follow the age-old adage of gambling addicts: in for a dime, in for a dollar.
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Been Predicting this for Months....
Posted by: CatDad on Dec 26, 2006 12:47 PM   
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There are some scary times ahead for this nation. The only thing that has worked well for GW Bush (at least in the short-term) is war. People do what they are most comfortable/familiar with...and it's highly likely that W. will try to win the Iraq War by starting a new one with either Syria or Iran. Of couse the new Democratic Congress will sit idly by as he does this.

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Blair and Bush Have Nothing Left, But Threats
Posted by: dhitch on Dec 26, 2006 1:05 PM   
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After observing the fiasco in Iraq, no sane politician on the left or the right will allow them to lead us into another mess. The doctrine of premption has died on the vine in Iraq. Bush should be striving for more humble goals, like surviving the next 2 years without being impeached or going to jail.

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Sit down and shut up, Junior
Posted by: edith on Dec 26, 2006 2:13 PM   
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The Dim Duke of Crawford must be told by

a)Congressional leaders: invade or bomb Iran and Syria and you are O-U-T

b) Military leaders: Move your draft dodger yellow butt to Crawford and have a nice rest there until 1/09 along with Dying Dick. Leave and you will be shot on sight. The JCS in coordinatiion with the Acting President, Nancy Pelosi, will run the DOD and the Acting President and congressional chairs will oversee appropriate domestic depts.

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Now this WILL bring on energy independance.
Posted by: cmaukonen on Dec 26, 2006 2:15 PM   
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Because if this does happen, we can kiss Middle East oil good by.

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the end
Posted by: sasquuatch55 on Dec 26, 2006 2:51 PM   
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WE ARE ALL DOOMED!

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Iran, Syria . . . Nuh uh!
Posted by: JCR on Dec 26, 2006 3:22 PM   
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There is not going to be any attack on Iran or Syria. This is merely Alternet's way of saying "come on back in 2007 y'all" when the fearmongering will really go into overdrive.

As much as we all know Bush, Blair and Olmert are off their respective rockers, there is little chance of this happening. The military is hanging on by a thread in Iraq and we are expected to believe that Iran and Syria are next? Sorry, I would keep my eyes open for something big happening on the domestic front with those KBR summer camps finally being put to good use. Then, after the rabble rousers are locked up, the wider war will get underway.

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EURO OIL......
Posted by: picket on Dec 26, 2006 3:46 PM   
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that is what it is all about. The 1% of the wealthy rule and the monetary system is in danger in US and Britain. Israel is committed to help with the problem.
The innocent blood is about the Euro.

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And just like Bush's Iraq gamble
Posted by: outlander55 on Dec 26, 2006 6:26 PM   
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This will fail miserably. It may trust America into it's own civil war. People will take to the streets. And if nuclear weapons are used, God save us all, because we will be no more.

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Dooooomed! Dooooooooooomed!
Posted by: LegumeSam on Dec 26, 2006 6:27 PM   
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Let's all go out into the streets wearing sandwich boards proclaiming that "The End Is Near" and yell it to the rooftops!

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A DANGEROUS YEAR ? (YOU MEAN LIKE THE LAST 5)
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 26, 2006 6:38 PM   
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Nothing new here. Bush has lived his life taking risks. He also has a history of failures that can't be matched. One disaster after another. Since March 2001 people have been dying because he thought a war would make him a great president. It's made him a global threat and it's made fools of Americans. The death count, Americans & Iraqis combined is probably close to Nagisaki- Hiroshima. That IS dangerous. He has to be stopped. Thanks, ANNA

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Armageddin it?
Posted by: MonkeyBoy on Dec 26, 2006 6:48 PM   
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I can't imagine that the rest of the world will stay on the sidelines this time if the US, UK and Israel make a push to take the entire Middle East.

Giving Dubya as much power as Congress has over the past 6 years is like giving a monkey a can of gasoline and a box of matches.

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In the mean time, Bush ARMS the biggest Islamic TERROR HARBOURING nation, PAKISTAN !
Posted by: Jason Jordan on Dec 26, 2006 7:25 PM   
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Yeah, that war on terror !

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Since they own us{London and who knows else}
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 26, 2006 7:50 PM   
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What is the greatest financial scam in world history?
Chances are you won't even consider the Federal Reserve{Fed} to
be the recipient of that dubious honor.The Fed,a privatetly owned and tax
-exempt bank that is dominated by foreign bankers,obtains Federal Reserve
Notes from the the U.S. Treasury for roughly 3 cents each,whether it's a
$1 bill or a $50,000 bill.They then sell it back to us at face value,and
charge interest for "loaning" it to us.Privately owned expansion and illegal
usuryof the nation's money supply is equivalent to state-sanctioned
counterfeitingand economic parasitism.That is why we have 8 trillion plus
National dept,an amount greater than the value of all rel property in this
country.America is now legally bankrupt!
Can you see what's happening here?Can you understand that we,as American
citizens,have no real money of our own?So strong is the foreign banker's
stranglehold on America thatour Goverment cannot print it's own tax free,
usury-free money for it's own citizens.
If it could there would be no unemployment,no inflation,no recessions or
excessive taxes, etc.,and no astronomical National Dept.According to
former Congressman Bob Dole,in 1995,about %40 of the personal IRS
tax went to pay the interest on the nation dept.Senator Louis T. McFadden,
a chairman of the U.S. Banking & Currency Commission for 22 years, said
in 1934:"The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen".
In 1963 President Kennedy, by means of an Executive Order,bypassed the
FED and issued real United States Notes with no dept or interest attached.
"Remember he was killed"
Go to a coin dealer and look at a 1963 Kennedy dollar ..
it say"United States Not" not "Federal Reserve Note"
According to Artical 1,Section 8 of the Constitution only United States Notes
are legal tender."Congress{not the Fed} shall have the power to coin money and
regulate the value thereof."Immeddiately after Kennedy's death the printing
was stopped and the existing legal notes were taken out of circulation.

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More from above
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 26, 2006 7:58 PM   
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Many experts are convinced that the Fed ordered the CIA to assassinate the
Kennedy's for printing legal United States Treasury Notes.Over 20 individuals
with evidence to link the CIA to the murders were reportedly killed too.
How did it all happen? On December 23rd,1913,when many members had left for the
holidays ,the Federal Reserve Act was rammed through Congress.One of the few
congressmen who had understood all the issues at stake in this Act,Charles A.Lindburg
{father of the famous aviator}, said:This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth.
When the president{Wilson} signs this bill,the invisible goverment of the Monetary Power
will be legalized.Later Wilson remorsefully stated"I have unwittingly ruined my country"
Thomas Jefferson predited this would happen if we violated our Constitution and allowed
a bank like the FED to exist.Benjamin Franklin said that the primary reason for the
Revolutionary War was to stop the Bank Of England from doing what the Fed is doing to us
now.And guess what?The Bank Of England has more than just alittle finger in the Fed.
Few citizens are aware of this underhanded plot,and mainsteam media is making sure that
people remain ignorant.Why has the media remain silent?
Because it's controlled by the money the Fed leeches from the American Middle Class.
Henry Ford ,Sr once said:"If the people of this nation understood our banking and
monetary system,I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"
What's the solution? As per Congressional Record,the U.S. Goverment can buy back the
FED at any time for $450 million.But Congress has to Act.If the Congressmen aren't doing
there job.
the bribed elements should be voted out of office..Join the 1000's of Americans who are
helping to spread this information.Once enough citizens become aware of the truth our
lackluster Congress will be forsed to Act on the behalf of those it is suppose to serve..
More to come later!!!!!

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Think before you vote
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 26, 2006 8:00 PM   
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Americans,living in what is called the richest nation on earth ,
seem always to be short on money.Wives are working and husbands are working just to make
ends meet.Much of this trouble can be traced to our present "dept-money"system.
When you take out a mortagge,your signed promissory note is a negotiable instrument under
the Uniform Commercial Code,and it is used to fund your morgage.All monies and interest
that repay the morgage are pure profit to the bank.Non-disclosure by the bank of this important
fact can be legal grounds to have your mortgage taken off the books and foreginen.
Just like the Federal Reserve,the Banks create money "out of thin air"Who is paying for the
banks ' Profit?All of us through added inflation. This is shocking and eye-opening information
on an unprecedented money scam perpetrated on the entire nation.A long-overdue education
for most of us.Fight inflation. Get rid of your BANK and join a credit Union!
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberty than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the Goverment at Defiance.
The issuing power of {money} should be taken away from the banks and restored to the
people to whom it proerly belongs" Thomas Jefferson

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this is UNACCEPTABLE!
Posted by: World Can't Wait on Dec 26, 2006 11:33 PM   
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and we must ACT!
worldcantwait.org

This Call of World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is ringing truer every day--

"YOUR GOVERNMENT, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

YOUR GOVERNMENT puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

YOUR GOVERNMENT suppresses the science that doesn't fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving to deny women here, and all over the world, the right to birth control and abortion.

YOUR GOVERNMENT enforces a culture of greed, bigotry, intolerance and ignorance.

People look at all this and think of Hitler - and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come. We must act now; the future is in the balance.

Millions and millions are deeply disturbed and outraged by this. They recognize the need for a vehicle to express this outrage, yet they cannot find it; politics as usual cannot meet the enormity of the challenge, and people sense this.

There is not going to be some magical "pendulum swing." People who steal elections and believe they're on a "mission from God" will not go without a fight.

There is not going to be some savior from the Democratic Party. This whole idea of putting our hopes and energies into "leaders" who tell us to seek common ground with fascists and religious fanatics is proving every day to be a disaster, and actually serves to demobilize people.

But silence and paralysis are NOT acceptable. That which you will not resist and mobilize to stop, you will learn - or be forced - to accept. There is no escaping it: the whole disastrous course of this Bush regime must be STOPPED. And we must take the responsibility to do it.

And there is a way. We are talking about something on a scale that can really make a huge change in this country and in the world. We need more than fighting Bush's outrages one at a time, constantly losing ground to the whole onslaught. We must, and can, aim to create a political situation where the Bush regime's program is repudiated, where Bush himself is driven from office, and where the whole direction he has been taking society is reversed. We, in our millions, must and can take responsibility to change the course of history.

Acting in this way, we join with and give support and heart to people all over the globe who so urgently need and want this regime to be stopped.

This will not be easy. If we speak the truth, they will try to silence us. If we act, they will try to stop us. But we speak for the majority, here and around the world, and as we get this going we are going to reach out to the people who have been so badly fooled by Bush and we are NOT going to stop.

The point is this: history is full of examples where people who had right on their side fought against tremendous odds and were victorious. And it is also full of examples of people passively hoping to wait it out, only to get swallowed up by a horror beyond what they ever imagined. The future is unwritten. WHICH ONE WE GET IS UP TO US."
www.worldcantwait.org

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strange
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 27, 2006 1:35 AM   
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Since the Bushies are very dangerous people it only makes sense that they will indulge in dangerous and strange plans. Bush, Olmert and Blair are the three prime assholes of the current world. Reckless bombing can only worsen things for the USA and clearly indicates that the Bushies should be impeached ASAP and Olmert and Blair should be out of office as well. These military-action-can-save-us fruitcakes are not worthy of governing anybody.

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Total crazyness!!!
Posted by: hillstar on Dec 27, 2006 3:20 AM   
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We must be extremely vigilant. It is our responsibility to ourselves and the rest of the world to oppose any such plans..just put your e mail programs to good use, and bombard your senators and representatives with demands to oppose such crazy plans!!!

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Bush's Victory and Final Legacy... COUNT ON IT
Posted by: xbj on Dec 27, 2006 3:20 AM   
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Getting the United States nuked from sea to shining sea by everything that China and Russia can throw at it, over the suicidal US attempt at taking control of Iran's oil by nuking Iran.

Nothing less. Victory.

Bush's own family is counting on it... that's what they are building an escape compound in South America, far away from the fallout that will spread over the Northern Hemisphere...

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You can't do a thing about it.
Posted by: jjs on Dec 27, 2006 4:08 AM   
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Bush can do as he well pleases. Serious demonstrations on the level of those seen toward the end of the Viet Nam war will be considered as sufficient evidence of domestic civil unrest, thus giving this administration grounds to apply any and all methods against undefined domestic terrorists--dissenters, a critical media, the Internet. At this point, Bush is seriously insane, deluded. He will not tolerate internal strife. He now has unlimited authority to crush it.

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Bush no poker player
Posted by: Democritus on Dec 27, 2006 5:59 AM   
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If George W. Bush played no-limit Texas hold 'em poker he'd be easy pickings. Any plan of his to escalate war in the Middle East would be like going "all in" with a pair of deuces against someone who raised the pot when an ace came on the river.

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A wider war with Syria and Iran
Posted by: mylesh on Dec 27, 2006 6:20 AM   
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This will not happen without the Democratic Party leadership's support.
Therefore, we will have war with Syria and Iran.

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No War in 07
Posted by: robchapman on Dec 27, 2006 7:07 AM   
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I will take the contrarian view in this discussion and state categorically that the US will not expand its military role in the mideast in 07.

After the defeat they suffered in the war against Hezbollah last summer it is unlikely that the Israelis would "lead" a general war against Syria and Iraq.

Such a conflict would deprive Israel of the advantages of concentration and interior lines that have been essential to their past success.

Hezbollah showed the tactics that Arab forces could use to grind down the IDF in a miserable war of attrition.

Although the IDF has the reserves to win such a battle against Hezbollah whose field army numbers only 5,000 the hundreds of thousands of men that Syria or Iran alone could bring to bear could make the cost of such a conflict unsustainable for Israel.

Secondly if the IDF were deployed over a wide range in a country as distant from Israel as Iraq, what forces would Israel have to suppress the Palestineans, maintain internal security and protect her other borders?

Israel simply does not have the depth of resources needed to engage in a protacted, expensive and bloody struggle against her neighbors.

Adding a large and distant country like Iran into the mix would place Israel's existence in near-term jeopardy.

Does the UK have the stomach or resources for such a fight?

The British commanders in Afghanistan are already making public statements that they lack the force levels necessary to suppress the Taliban and prevent a civil war.

Can anyone imagine that a country whose forces cannot suppress the irregular, poorly trained, badly lead and scantily equipped Taliban is likely to prevail against the sort of forces that oil-rich and populous Iran would bring to bear in defense of their own territory?

The Iranians are nearly as numerous as the British and because of the youthfulness of their population would be able to muster a bigger army.

Clearly, the Iranians would be quick the master the tactics Hezbollah used last summer to bloody the Israelis.

That leaves us.

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TLV
Posted by: tlv on Dec 27, 2006 7:12 AM   
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The myth that Israel is the only friend we have amidst a sea of Islamic "enemies" is incorrect. What kind of friend withholds information that you are about to be bombed by passenger planes, that trains Kurds to fight anyone who attempts to invade (including U.S. forces), and attacks another of our friends in Northern Lebanon instead of the South where Hezbollah was the supposed target, and chooses to kill when diplomacy would have worked better. Israel provokes and then runs behind us after the fighting starts. They aren't our friends. They are runt bullies with nothing but arrogance and bigotry to back up their threats, but an arsenal of real weapons supplied OUR COUNTRY are used to do the actual killing! Why do we coddle and protect them? They are using us!

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Why Condemning Israel and the Zionist Lobby is so Important By James Petras
Posted by: rwa on Dec 27, 2006 7:20 AM   
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“It’s no great secret why the Jewish agencies continue to trumpet support for the discredited policies of this failed administration. They see defense of Israel as their number-one goal, trumping all other items on the agenda. That single-mindedness binds them ever closer to a White House that has made combating Islamic terrorism its signature campaign. The campaign’s effects on the world have been catastrophic. But that is no concern of the Jewish agencies.” December 8, 2006 statement by JJ Goldberg, editor of Forward (the leading Jewish weekly in the United States)

12/26/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- Many Jewish writers, including those who are somewhat critical of Israel, have raised pointed questions about our critique of the Zionist power configuration (ZPC) in the United States and what they wrongly claim are our singular harsh critique of the state of Israel. Some of these accusers claim to see signs of ‘latent anti-Semitism’, others, of a more ‘leftist’ coloration, deny the influential role of the ZPC arguing that US foreign policy is a product of ‘geo-politics or the interests of big oil. With the recent publication of several widely circulated texts, highly critical of the power of the Zionist ‘lobby’, several liberal pro-Israel publicists generously conceded that it is a topic that should be debated (and not automatically stigmatized and dismissed) and perhaps be ‘taken into account.’

ZPC Deniers: Phony Arguments for Fake Claims

The main claims of ZPC deniers take several tacks: Some claim that the ZPC is just ‘another lobby’ like the Chamber of Commerce, the Sierra Club or the Society for the Protection of Goldfish. Others claim that by focusing mainly on Israel and by inference the ‘Lobby’, the critics of Zionism ignore the equally violent abuses of rulers, regimes and states elsewhere. This ‘exclusive focus’ on Israel, the deniers of ZPC argue, reveals a latent or overt anti-Semitism. They propose that human rights advocates condemn all human rights abusers everywhere (at the same time and with the same emphasis?). Others still argue that Israel is a democracy – at least outside of the Occupied Territories (OT) – and therefore is not as condemnable as other human rights violators and should be ‘credited’ for its civic virtues along with its human rights failings. Finally others still claim that, because of the Holocaust and ‘History-of-Two-Thousand-Years-of-Persecution’, criticism of Jewish-funded and led pro-Israel lobbies should be handled with great prudence, making it clear that one criticizes only specific abuses, investigates all charges – especially those from Arab/Palestinian/United Nations/European/Human Rights sources -- and recognizes that Israeli public opinion, the press and even the Courts or sectors of them may also be critical of regime policies.

These objections to treating the Israeli-Palestinian-Arab conflict and the activities of Zionist Lobbies as central to peace and war serve to dilute, dissipate and deflate criticism and organized political activity directed at the ZPC and its directors in Israel.

The response of the critics of Israel and the ZPC to these attacks has been weak at best and cowardly at worst. Some critics have responded that their criticism is only directed toward a specific policy or leader, or to Israeli policies in the OT and that they recognize Israel is a democracy, that it requires secure borders, and that it is in the interests of the Israeli ‘people’ to lower their security barriers. Others argue that their criticism is directed at securing Israeli interests, influencing the Zionist Lobby or to opening a debate...
Balance of article:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15989.htm

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Bushwhacko
Posted by: hapibeli on Dec 27, 2006 7:40 AM   
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George W. Bush, the Whack de tutti Whacko, and his consiglieri, Dick, the Grimace, Cheney.

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No War in 07
Posted by: robchapman on Dec 27, 2006 7:44 AM   
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The current debate about a US invasion of Iran and or Syria has taken a bit of the luster off the Christmas season.

GW Bush, who campaigned for President as a uniter and not a divider has divided us during the season of peace with discussion of yet another optional war.

Ironically, one of the GOP rationales for invading Iraq was that the Saddam Hussein regime threatened its neighbors with military force.

Is the American population really capable of breaking its word and doing exactly what it said it was trying to prevent?

This is an instance that calls for reasoned dialog and discussion at the grass roots level.

American peace activists should seek out people who are concerned about our security and prone to support the administration and talk to them.

There is no need to rehash past mistakes or to call people names or reproach them.

Remind them that they supported the Administration for principled and worthy reasons and remind them of the promises they made to the rest of us when they advocated military action.

Particularly remind them of their promises to bring peace and prosperity to the Persian Gulf region.

Challenge them as to whether a wider war and invasion of Iran supports their goal and whether it is a feasilble response to events.

My experience is that this sort of reasoned and non-threatening dialogue has changed many minds.

Bush is currently seeking to shore up his support among conservative Democrats and security minded moderates.

His political offensive is weak and so far ineffective.

The President's December 20 press conference was a disaster. Its time of day and the day on which he chose to speak guarenteed low public exposure to his remarks.

The President's December 20 press conference was all but invisible.

If the President was using the press conference to communicate with the American people, and there is no reason to think otherwise, he failed.

This is a stark contrast with the media savvy and effectiveness that Bush has displayed in the past.

Clearly, the strains of the office are affecting his judgement and he is losing even his undisputed qualities of strength.

If Bush is losing his media savvy what does he have left?

Clearly his political judgement, strategic thinking, and administrative abilities are questionable if not downright mediocre.

If we on the left can avoid shrill invective and talk calmly and persuasively to moderates and conservatives instead, we can certainly isolate Bush farther.

The effect of isolating Bush will be to change the political dynamics.

Such a change in the political dynamics will make congressional oversight for war opperations stronger.

Isolating Bush will assist in moving resources away from war related activities and toward other national goals in the appropriations process.

Isolating Bush will help us reverse the infringements of the Constitution and erosion of American liberty that have been enacted at the Administration's behest.

Isolating Bush will help reverse the Administration's policies of torture and mistreatment of men interned by the military in war zones.

Isolating Bush will strengthen the elements of the GOP that oppose the war.

Isolating Bush will strengthen the moderates in both parties and advance the national healing that is necessary after the divisiveness and polarity fostered by the divide and conquer governing strategy of the Bush Administraion.

Most of all isolating Bush will bring people who are willing to work for peace with justice- replacing than those calling for sacrifice toward false victory- to the forefront.

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WHAT?!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 27, 2006 8:39 AM   
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From the article:
"President Bush's goal would be to transcend the bloody quagmire bogging down U.S. forces in Iraq by achieving "regime change" in Syria and by destroying nuclear facilities in Iran."

Oh, yeah, Bush will "transcend" it all right – by expanding the bloody quagmire five-fold. Of course, in his twisted mind, the "war" in Iraq has gone so swimmingly well that why not take on the region's junkyard dog, Iran, right? (When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging; you don't fight an oil fire by pouring gasoline on it; you don't stop lemmings from going over a cliff by shoving more in behind them; [fill in your own cliche:_____].)

What is it going to take for the sheeple of America to realize that we are being led by madmen? In this new potential debacle, we can only hope for a Pentagon refusal – somebody over there must have the common sense our Vietnam-dodger president lacks.

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US Must Accept a New World Order - Islamic Crescent
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 27, 2006 9:07 AM   
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The Bush fiasco with Iraq will finally end with several Arab countries in the Middle East obtaining dominance and a certain amount of control in the region. Perhaps, Hamas, Hezballah, Syria and Iran-Iraq, will be to a certain degree, united. The Bush mistake however is to see this as absolutely a "bad thing," but this is not the "cold war" anymore, and Bush (and company) need to re-think things. An Islamic crescent will just be a natural emergence of powers in the region exercising solidarity and alliance. Much as the USA is allied with countries via NATO and other treaties. Furthermore, an Islamic Crescent will have no problem selling oil to the USA, and might even be easier to deal with collectively then the countries and powers individually. Lastly, it will check Israel, the military powerhouse in the region that is blocking peace right now. So, Bush needs to study this and see that it will ultimately be good for the USA and good for the region and the world.

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What is REALLY going on (part I)
Posted by: Carl Street on Dec 27, 2006 10:01 AM   
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My take on the Israel/Palestine situation is (surprise surprise) radically different than most...

First, a little history. Following WWII, the victorious powers attempted to reestablish their pre-war colonial patterns. Among the first to attempt this was France who tried it in both French Indo-China (Viet Nam) and French Algeria. However, WWII had left a legacy of weapons caches; huge quantities of arms both indigenous and available in post war arms markets. More importantly, their haste to draft native peoples as cannon fodder had created a large cadre of battle-hardened, experienced and bloodied troops who knew how to use those weapons and, had been trained in sabotage and guerilla operations, etc.

Observing the fiascos created by French and British attempts to reestablish their influence in the Far East, India and North Africa, the USA recognized that any attempt to colonialize the Middle East was probably doomed to failure and/or at least result in such protracted and expensive military operations as to render it impractical. So they hit upon a diabolically clever scheme to colonize by proxy by creating the "state" of Israel.

This solved a number of problems for the USA....

1. We had large quantities of DP's (displaced persons) in Europe following WWII and had already suffered a political disaster in Operation Keel Haul of trying to forcibly "repatriate" (dump) them on the East after WWII so we needed an alternative "dumping ground" for these largely undocumented refugees -- all we had to do was declare them "jews" -- if you look at their real ethnicity you would be amazed at who suddenly became "jewish". This last was especially true because the USA made all kinds of promises of land, prosperity (land flowing with milk an honey?), and opportunity to people who had no economic options in post war Europe and, thus, many suddenly decided that adopting the identity of being a "persecuted jew" was their best shot and willingly and enthusiastically took the Israel option regardless of their actual ethnicity and/or religious persuasion. Without documentation, who could prove otherwise -- so it was an easy sale.
2. War weary USA citizens would probably NOT support a USA incursion into the Middle East; and these DP's and a loose rabble of radical Zionist idealists were the perfect patsies to become cannon fodder in a USA Middle Eastern invasion by proxy. Once they arrived, they had NO option but to fight for their lives against the indigenous peoples as there was no going back.
3. The USA could assume the politically popular mantle of being a modern Moses conducting a modern Exodus instead of a foreign invader.
4. In a classic Rhodes operation, the USA had created an economically and militarily dependent minority surrounded by hostile powers that either obeyed USA dictums or faced extinction. Thus these "new jews" were and are in reality hostages suckered into being USA colonialist proxies.
5. Large quantities of self-deluding REAL Jews world wide have also been suckered into supporting ISRAEL politically and economically and will shout down anyone who points out the obvious charade I have listed above as "anti-semitic" thus solving the problem of USA political propaganda. It is the equivalent of USA citizens "supporting the troops" by sending them to their deaths in a foreign lands and all the while feeling smugly patriotic; of course, these "patriots" would not DREAM of going themselves. I have no doubt that even some of the Israeli locals themselves are unaware of their hostage status and buy into the well crafted illuson of their supposed autonomy.

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What is REALLY going on (part II)
Posted by: Carl Street on Dec 27, 2006 10:02 AM   
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6. It was also a classic divide and conquer move. The fact is the Arabs are as semitic a people as the real Jews. But in the bizzaro world of USA propaganda; phony jews who are NOT even remotely semitic peoples killing real semitic peoples in Palestine is "pro-semitic" while criticizing those same killings of semites by non-semites is "anti-semitic". Thus by using the Israel ploy we undermined much of what could have been a united front against USA colonialism.

The reality is that Israel is NOT a country; in fact; it is NOT even a colony; it is an American military base -- this is easy to see if one takes off the propaganda induced blinders and looks at the raw facts:

1. A country is a politically autonomous geographical area with a self-sustaining economy; common history; language; and the military ability to control its borders.
2. A Colony is a geographical area with limited political autonomy (can't make their own foreign policy) with an economy captivated by a "mother" country and reliant upon the military prowess of same.
3. A Military BASE is a geographical area that is completely dependent upon a "mother" country for supplies (has little or no sustaining economy); no political autonomy (they follow orders).

Israel is a USA base. Of course, large smoke-screen operations are conducted to mask this and pretend they have autonomy; but the economic and military reality is that if we withdrew our support the place would implode within a few weeks -- at most. Moreover, did you know that refusing to do business with Israel is a FEDERAL CRIME in the USA? ONLY ONE other entity is covered by that same law -- refusing to do business with the USA Military!

Perhaps more importantly, Israel's proxy fallacy allows the USA to conduct radical foreign policy experiments with little or no risk. For example, if Iran is bombed, I have no doubt that "Israeli mavericks" will do it; while we sit by and claim we were "surprised" -- followed by the ultimate in hypocrisy; we will no doubt offer to broker a peace.

Finally, The Israel proxy fallacy gives the USA political and military cliques the ultimate money laundering machine. Large quantities of funds can be "lent" to Israel (none of which is ever paid back) which then are used to "purchase" and/or develop military hardware. Also, these funds are used to fund "campaign contributions"; covert operations; compromise, threaten and murder anyone who threatens this system. It is the perfect way of funneling huge amounts of funds into the hands of the PIP's (People In Power) without the inconvenience of audits and oversight.

The LAST thing the USA wants is peace in the Middle East. The interests of the PIP's is best served by continued strife. It not only provides an excuse to populate and sustain military bases throughout the area; but it also keeps the locals from organizing any real threat to the system or even developing their own resources and independent economies. Thus, sustained conflict in the Middle East is the perfect tool to keep the locals in a permanent colonial status.

I may NOT have all the details right; but THINK about it -- despite WWII being over 60 years in the past we have a range of world-wide bases that Hitler and Tojo could only dream about. As I have said before; ignore the patter (story) and watch the hands (what is going on) if you REALLY want to know the truth.

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Worst possible choice is invasion
Posted by: hlt on Dec 27, 2006 10:16 AM   
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It was published yesterday that Iran is unable to meet their oil quota. The people are not really all behind their present leader (nor are we for ours) so there is a weakening support for the Iranian government. The country is somewhat at odds with itself which means that change will come from within. It was also observed that if we invade then it will unite Iran against the invading forces, therefore invasion is the worst possible move. Following the insanity of our administration then this means that we will invade.
Fundamentalist Christianity and Fundamentalist Islam as governments have made monkeys of us all. The greater choice is to fight the right (wings).

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Middle East
Posted by: Maryanne on Dec 27, 2006 10:42 AM   
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Georgie's playing soldiers on daddy's rug has already spread in reality throughout the Middle East.

The puppet government in Iraq has already reached out to Syria and Iran, Saudi Arabia is funding the Sunnis in Iraq, Turkey is already talking about the terrorist group within the Kurdish population in Iraq which it plans to attack if it is not stopped elsewhere, while we are training an Iraqi army, which is Shiite, who are using this training to attack the Sunnis.

We don't need to attack Iran or Syria. The damage to the extended Middle East has already happened. When one of your "allies" (Saudi Arabia for example) is funding an insurgency that we are trying to defang (are we?), we have lost already.

We MUST get out NOW. Bush won't leave. The only option is for Congress to cut ALL funds for the Pentagon and this operation. (Excluding of course medical care to those who have been injured while Bush played soldiers.)

I remind you all that when Bush went to meet with representatives of the Middle East it was NOT in Iraq because it was too dangererous there for him. But, not for our young military. He should be required to meet with whom he must IN IRAQ (not the green zone) to give him an idea of what playing soldiers really means.

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cornered snake
Posted by: ng1944 on Dec 27, 2006 11:17 AM   
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Did You ever observed cornered dog
or cornered snake.
Bush, Blare, Olmert all cornered snakes.
The more dangerous.

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Aztec
Posted by: aztec on Dec 27, 2006 12:03 PM   
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Bush has adopted the Israeli solution for the Middle East: control the natives you want to steal from, not only through terrorism, impoverishment, collective punishment attacks on civilians and the civilian infrastructure to destroy the economy, ethnic cleansing, massacres and constant humiliation and disruption of daily life to make staying alive a massive burden everyday by the targeted population, but to promote confessional, sectarian, ethnic and racial violence among the targeted population. Far from being a failure, Iraq is a stunning success for Bush: he has his permanent military bases and control over the oil. Currently, Bush is pushing the puppet government to legalize the privatization of the oil industry and organize the pillage through decades long agreements between US oil companies and the government. This is also at the heart of the ISG report. It's been SOP for oil companies to impose these detailed agreements superseding the law in unstable settings to steal all of the wealth but kickback enough to keep a tiny comprador class filthy rich. Bush is having the IMF put the screws to Iraq by making oil privatization a condition for relieving Iraq of just enough of the odious debt not to crush Iraq that Saddam assumed from, among others, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the US, for carrying-out the 8 year war against Iran which all 3 of them encouraged Saddam to launch to shield the Sunni royalty from Shia Iran. A principal reason Saddam invaded Kuwait was because they and the Saudis refused to forgive the war debts Saddam assumed to make this war. Since this debt was incurred under Saddam's dictatorship for an illegal aggressive war, the debt should be considered odious under international law and forgiven for the new Iraq.

Continuous war is a wonderful thing for Bush and his war-profiteering backers. War creates it's own endless demand and a lone consumer with the deepest of deep pockets. The exigencies of war keep prices sky-high. Competition is reduced or eliminated. The opportunities for fraud become infinite. There's virtually no oversight of costs and the quality of the war products produced. Even before the advent of Busho-fascism, the War Department was unable to determine what it spent a quarter to a third of it's annual budget on.

Thus, Bush, his family and his self-proclaimed base of the very rich and the filthy rich are able to loot the Treasury. Best of all, since Bush has been successful in waging his class war for his base, the tax proceeds being looted are from the most regressive taxes imposed on ordinary Americans, payroll taxes, and the tax burden he has transferred from his base to the middle class and those below. By looting the Treasury, Bush is able to reduce or eliminate the flow of federal money going to the Americans he is waging war on and can argue that Social Security is broke because he's stolen all of it's surplus.

On a personal level, continuous war has been wonderful for Bush. Bush thinks lying in the US into an illegal war makes him America's Fuehrer. He can disappear anyone at his whim and imprison, torture, maim or murder them. He's committed the most heinous of the war crimes that the US hung Nazis and Japanese militarists for after WWII. He's eliminated the Bill of Rights, without which the the formation of the the US would never have been agreed to. He's eliminated the 11th century right of habeas corpus , which is the right of someone detained by the government to force the government to prove to an independent judge that they are being detained for bona fide criminal conduct. He's eliminated posse comitatus which allows Bush to use the American military in the US against the American people, at his whim. He's proudly violated the Constitution, US criminal law, national security law for political purposes, and international law that the US has bound itself to by treaty.

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Where are the Saudis on this?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 27, 2006 12:28 PM   
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This story seems to fit in with other predictions of an assault on Iraq by people such as Scott Ritter. Of course, such an assault will drive global oil prices through the roof, which will benefit the Bush and Cheney neocon crime families (Cheney is still associated with Halliburton, but his investments in Vanguard are directly linked to Exxon and Chevron as well, and the Bush Sr.-Carlyle-Saudi binLadin Group connection is still active). The Five Ruling Families of the Arabian Peninsula must have some opinion on this; could an assault on Iran possibly occur without their tactic approval?

What about the fact that the Saudi-Pakistani connection means that the Saudis could probably acquire nuclear weapons from Pakistan with great ease via the ISI - AQ Khan network? Here's a scenario that should give Mideast planners pause: the Saudi Royals acquire nuclear weapons via Pakistan, and then are overthrown by an Al Queda-led revolution which puts nukes in the hands of Osama bin Ladin - what would the US do then?

Bush and Cheney are stupid, greedy criminal neocon idiots with a fetish for fascism. If there was such a thing as justice and the rule of law in this country, they'd be in prison right now.

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Find the truth if you dare
Posted by: mite on Dec 27, 2006 3:19 PM   
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http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden_speech_1932.html

"The Bankruptcy of the United States" at 'Citizens for Better Government, scroll down to this on the page.

We need to die in this coming war in the middle east to pay our debt people, the Bilderbergs our masters have ruled this. It is the only way to pay the $10 Trillion debt our Congress allowe since 1913.

Kiss your children goodbye people, what is ahead will bring in the New World Order. A nuclear war will begin within the next 6 months. I know; laugh at me, enjoy it cause it will be our last. www.articbeacon.com and GCNlive.com will give the truth no thanks to the other press. But you better hurry cause their going to shut down the truth after Congress returns.

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MORE than TALK
Posted by: World Can't Wait on Dec 27, 2006 6:45 PM   
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When future generations ask, "What did you DO when the U.S. was engaging in war crimes and crimes against humanity"...

Don't you want to be able to say you did more than READ about it?!
www.worldcantwait.org
GET INVOLVED!

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May be we have to help Zionists
Posted by: ng1944 on Dec 27, 2006 7:21 PM   
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It looks like Zionists are doing everything to destroy
american constitution and establish fashism in this country.
May be we have to help them, because than Jewish
question will be solved ones and forever

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SAME OLD THING
Posted by: nikolai on Dec 28, 2006 12:50 PM   
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Bu$h, Cheney and their fellow outlaw elitists are doing what the uber wealthy have been doing throughout history. Find a poor country full of poor defensless people and kill them and steal their resources and lands. Their forefathers did this to the Native Americans and now it is being done to the Iraqi's and if these neocon criminals get their way, they will kill thousands and take Syria and Iran and any other territories they can grab as well (can you say, "Afghanistan?"). This is how the wealthy get wealthy and stay wealthy. They also get a cut of income taxes in the form of the Federal Reserve, as they are part of the Federal Reserve in that they own stock in the major banks which make up the Fed. They also make the laws that allow them to get away with this highway robbery. Pretty sweet deal, but it's all blood money any way you look at it.

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BUSH SECURITY POLICIES WERE CLEARLY FALSE AND MISLEADING!!
Posted by: tmac100 on Dec 28, 2006 7:42 PM   
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The Iraq War started and Bush began to seek for the WMDs Saddam was supposed to have had. The search turned up empty, after Bush told us he will not allow an independent investigation of 911, because that would take up too much resources that otherwise would be necessary for the war on terror. Since that time, the baptized "Jesus party" has been doing everything to lie and tell us that Saddam had WMDs.

Now they are constantly posting those dreaded, CONSPIRACY THEORIES that maybe Saddam did have WMDs after all! Not only can those CONSPIRACY THEORIES not be proven, but the opposite can be proven!

Some are telling us that Saddam actually had WMDs, but just before the Iraq War, he shipped all of them out of the country. When I was in college in the late 70s we were informed that America has reconnaisance capabilities to be able to see a basketball from space.

Before Operation Desert Storm, a special satellite was launched so the United States can spy on Iraq from overhead. Between Operation Desert Storm and Bush's illegal war, all the WMDs had to have been moved without America knowing!

But to add the most to the absurdity, is the fact that the Nazicons are telling us that Saddam would rather ship all his WMDs out of the country rather than keep them to help him defend his country against the New America demanding that he surrender all of them, "OR ELSE!" We are talking about that country that already made a shambles of his own country. Saddam, viewed as the madman and mad dictator, would rather disarm himself on the brink of impending war with America!

The final finishing touch to prove Saddam had no WMDs appears with the very fraudulent Bush policy on security. Bush and his fellow conspirators subverting everywhere in America declared that TORTURE was necessary to use against their enemies, because this would force them to divulge information that could possibly save innocent lives. They therefore incorporated these principles into American security policy that America never needed against their enemies even during WWI and WWII! We are talking about the "Jesus" party that is skilled in teaching the world about the horrors of "PARANOIA."

If Bush knew that Saddam had such WMDs, HE WOULD HAVE TORTURED SADDAM TO EVEN REVEAL WHERE HE HAD STASHED THOSE WMDS AWAY! This would have saved more lives and would have exhonerated Bush's record IF SADDAM REALLY DID HAVE WMDS according to the policies of Bush! Bush forgot to read his own script, and was not interested in torturing Saddam for that information partly because he always knew Saddam didn't have any around the time of the sanctions and inspections!!

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GLOBAL VILLAGE IDIOT -> (Bush)
Posted by: Hal on Dec 28, 2006 8:23 PM   
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GW and his scatty band of oligarch lapdogs are certainly criminals. But they are criminals that typically carry out orders. Bush decides nothing outside what is handed to him by owners of the system he works for. Ditto for Washington and its parrot MSM.

the “SYSTEM”:

A multinational criminal cartel oligarchy extorts the globe by way of a private and unconstitutional “Federal Reserve” Corporation [not federal and no reserves but a Ponzi con], World Bank, IMF and Bank for International Settlements, etc.

This blood money parasite oligarchy was bulldozed to power in the dead of winter, 1913 for the usual suspects. In other words, for cartel robber barons that never left power as they pretended to by finally taking control of the MSM and “education”.


“I HAVE UNWITTINGLY RUINED MY COUNTRY…WE HAVE COME TO BE ONE OF THE WORST RULED, ONE OF THE MOST COMPLETLEY CONTROLLED AND DOMINATED GOVERNMENTS IN THE WORLD… A GOVERNMENT BY THE OPINION AND DURESS OF A SMALL GROUP OF DOMINANT MEN.”
PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON (on oligarch tyranny, three years after signing a “Federal Reserve Act” and its privately owned “Federal Reserve” Corporation credit monopoly into law. Quote 1916)

‘THIS [FEDERAL RESERVE] ACT ESTABLISHES THE MOST GIGANTIC TRUST [PRIVATE MONOPOLY] ON EARTH. WHEN THE PRESIDENT [WILSON] SIGNS THIS BILL, THE INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT OF THE MONEY POWER WILL BE LEGALIZED… THE WORST LEGISLATIVE CRIME OF THE AGES IS PERPETRATED BY THIS BANKING AND CURRENCY BILL.”
CONGRESSMAN CHARLES A. LINDBERG SR. (speaking to Congress in opposition to the global banking cartel and its privately owned “Federal Reserve” Corporation monopoly. December 23rd, 1913)

“THESE INTERNATIONAL AND ROCKEFELLER-STANDARD OIL INTERESTS CONTROL THE MAJORITY OF NEWSPAPERS AND THE COLUMNS OF THESE PAPERS TO CLUB INTO SUBMISSION OR DRIVE OUT OF PUBLIC OFFICE OFFICIALS WHO REFUSE TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE POWERFUL CORRUPT CLIQUES WHICH COMPOSE THE INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT.”
PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT (denouncing a global money power cartel, President from 1901-1909, Roosevelt lived to see the creation of a privately owned and controlled Federal Reserve Corporation by the Invisible Government of international bank monopolists.1858-1919)

“BRITAIN IS THE SLAVE OF AN INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL BLOC.”
BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE (on the money cartel June 20, 1934)

‘THE MODERN BANKING SYSTEM CREATES MONEY OUT OF NOTHING…[PRIVATE CARTEL] BANKERS OWN THE EARTH. TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM, BUT LEAVE THEM THE POWER TO CREATE MONEY AND CONTROL CREDIT, AND WITH A FLICK OF A PEN THEY WILL CREATE ENOUGH TO BUY IT BACK.”
SIR JOSIAH STAMP (Governor of the Bank of England; the 2nd richest man in Britain c. 1928)

“THE RULING CLASS HAS THE SCHOOLS AND PRESS UNDER ITS THUMB. THIS ENABLES IT TO SWAY THE EMOTIONS OF THE MASSES.”
DOCTOR ALBERT EINSTEIN (Nobel Laureate and refugee from Nazi fascism. 1879-1955)

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Sharon
Posted by: Sharon on Dec 30, 2006 8:00 AM   
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Typical of bullies to let someone else do their fighting. Why hasn't more been made of our involvement in Israel's attack on Lebanon? Truth Out! Sharon E. Streeter, author, the bush rage series. www.bushrageAllowed.com

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This will happen...
Posted by: JCKennedy on Dec 30, 2006 4:24 PM   
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We are now within a time of dubious motives from our so called political leaders. The people behind the laughable Bush administration are purposefully inciting violence within the middle east knowing full well that these outcomes strengthen their moral presence in the area. After all, divide and conquer. Iraq is the tactical jewel in the crown. Lying right in the centre of both Syria and Iran. Just look at a map and see for yourselves. Isreal also nicely divides Palestine with its ridiculous borders. This was always the agenda and I can't believe that we have no safe guards against these enemies of freedom. Orwellian state here we come and pleased to meet you sir.

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calm down everyone
Posted by: miggy on Jan 5, 2007 10:39 AM   
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There are a few posts on the debt based money system with this article. To those writing them, calm down. The information youve found is exciting but you really dont know what your talking about,,,,,yet. Learn more before you share.

As far as Bushs war, i have good news. America is not involved. The United States is handling this one, not America. You all may be happy to know that there are no Americans in Iraq, only United States Citizens. If you dont know the difference between the two youd better start educating yourselves.

If any of you question this, i can prove it very easily. What flag is that on the arms of the soldiers in Iraq? Its not an American flag. Those soldiers are not Americans. If i were to go out on a limb, id say that wierd backwards, American looking flag is really a corporate or UN flag, intended to fool us into believing that we are all involved in this sham.

Ive never felt involved or minutely responsible for bush or Iraq, Im an American with a clean concious, from a Republic not a democracy(socialism).

Bush represents his corporation and anyone that wishes to follow(volluntary). That should make you all fell better and not be so hard on the guy. Just because all of you were gullible enough to fall for this carpet baggers scam of believing we are all something we are not.

As far as soldiers in Iraq, there are none. What is in Iraq are mercenaries. These people in United States Corporation combat gear vollunteered to murder in the name of corporate profit. They signed away their American citizenship and took up weapons to kill becuase they needed a job and since all Americans are kind and loving, who better to do the killing than kind loving people who will kill kindly and lovingly.... oh yeah , ,, for freedom?????? (sounds like the police here eh?)

If you think this is unlikely ill point out Katrina. With tens of thousands of homeless and hungry, an army of vollunteer looter shooters showed up but no one with food or medical supplies. This accentuates the mercenary mentality being nurtured in our kind, loving people.

Something to think about

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Been Predicting this for Months....
Posted by: CatDad on Dec 26, 2006 12:47 PM   
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There are some scary times ahead for this nation. The only thing that has worked well for GW Bush (at least in the short-term) is war. People do what they are most comfortable/familiar with...and it's highly likely that W. will try to win the Iraq War by starting a new one with either Syria or Iran. Of couse the new Democratic Congress will sit idly by as he does this.

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Blair and Bush Have Nothing Left, But Threats
Posted by: dhitch on Dec 26, 2006 1:05 PM   
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After observing the fiasco in Iraq, no sane politician on the left or the right will allow them to lead us into another mess. The doctrine of premption has died on the vine in Iraq. Bush should be striving for more humble goals, like surviving the next 2 years without being impeached or going to jail.

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Sit down and shut up, Junior
Posted by: edith on Dec 26, 2006 2:13 PM   
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The Dim Duke of Crawford must be told by

a)Congressional leaders: invade or bomb Iran and Syria and you are O-U-T

b) Military leaders: Move your draft dodger yellow butt to Crawford and have a nice rest there until 1/09 along with Dying Dick. Leave and you will be shot on sight. The JCS in coordinatiion with the Acting President, Nancy Pelosi, will run the DOD and the Acting President and congressional chairs will oversee appropriate domestic depts.

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Now this WILL bring on energy independance.
Posted by: cmaukonen on Dec 26, 2006 2:15 PM   
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Because if this does happen, we can kiss Middle East oil good by.

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the end
Posted by: sasquuatch55 on Dec 26, 2006 2:51 PM   
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WE ARE ALL DOOMED!

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Iran, Syria . . . Nuh uh!
Posted by: JCR on Dec 26, 2006 3:22 PM   
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There is not going to be any attack on Iran or Syria. This is merely Alternet's way of saying "come on back in 2007 y'all" when the fearmongering will really go into overdrive.

As much as we all know Bush, Blair and Olmert are off their respective rockers, there is little chance of this happening. The military is hanging on by a thread in Iraq and we are expected to believe that Iran and Syria are next? Sorry, I would keep my eyes open for something big happening on the domestic front with those KBR summer camps finally being put to good use. Then, after the rabble rousers are locked up, the wider war will get underway.

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EURO OIL......
Posted by: picket on Dec 26, 2006 3:46 PM   
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that is what it is all about. The 1% of the wealthy rule and the monetary system is in danger in US and Britain. Israel is committed to help with the problem.
The innocent blood is about the Euro.

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And just like Bush's Iraq gamble
Posted by: outlander55 on Dec 26, 2006 6:26 PM   
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This will fail miserably. It may trust America into it's own civil war. People will take to the streets. And if nuclear weapons are used, God save us all, because we will be no more.

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Dooooomed! Dooooooooooomed!
Posted by: LegumeSam on Dec 26, 2006 6:27 PM   
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Let's all go out into the streets wearing sandwich boards proclaiming that "The End Is Near" and yell it to the rooftops!

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A DANGEROUS YEAR ? (YOU MEAN LIKE THE LAST 5)
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 26, 2006 6:38 PM   
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Nothing new here. Bush has lived his life taking risks. He also has a history of failures that can't be matched. One disaster after another. Since March 2001 people have been dying because he thought a war would make him a great president. It's made him a global threat and it's made fools of Americans. The death count, Americans & Iraqis combined is probably close to Nagisaki- Hiroshima. That IS dangerous. He has to be stopped. Thanks, ANNA

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Armageddin it?
Posted by: MonkeyBoy on Dec 26, 2006 6:48 PM   
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I can't imagine that the rest of the world will stay on the sidelines this time if the US, UK and Israel make a push to take the entire Middle East.

Giving Dubya as much power as Congress has over the past 6 years is like giving a monkey a can of gasoline and a box of matches.

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In the mean time, Bush ARMS the biggest Islamic TERROR HARBOURING nation, PAKISTAN !
Posted by: Jason Jordan on Dec 26, 2006 7:25 PM   
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Yeah, that war on terror !

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Since they own us{London and who knows else}
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 26, 2006 7:50 PM   
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What is the greatest financial scam in world history?
Chances are you won't even consider the Federal Reserve{Fed} to
be the recipient of that dubious honor.The Fed,a privatetly owned and tax
-exempt bank that is dominated by foreign bankers,obtains Federal Reserve
Notes from the the U.S. Treasury for roughly 3 cents each,whether it's a
$1 bill or a $50,000 bill.They then sell it back to us at face value,and
charge interest for "loaning" it to us.Privately owned expansion and illegal
usuryof the nation's money supply is equivalent to state-sanctioned
counterfeitingand economic parasitism.That is why we have 8 trillion plus
National dept,an amount greater than the value of all rel property in this
country.America is now legally bankrupt!
Can you see what's happening here?Can you understand that we,as American
citizens,have no real money of our own?So strong is the foreign banker's
stranglehold on America thatour Goverment cannot print it's own tax free,
usury-free money for it's own citizens.
If it could there would be no unemployment,no inflation,no recessions or
excessive taxes, etc.,and no astronomical National Dept.According to
former Congressman Bob Dole,in 1995,about %40 of the personal IRS
tax went to pay the interest on the nation dept.Senator Louis T. McFadden,
a chairman of the U.S. Banking & Currency Commission for 22 years, said
in 1934:"The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen".
In 1963 President Kennedy, by means of an Executive Order,bypassed the
FED and issued real United States Notes with no dept or interest attached.
"Remember he was killed"
Go to a coin dealer and look at a 1963 Kennedy dollar ..
it say"United States Not" not "Federal Reserve Note"
According to Artical 1,Section 8 of the Constitution only United States Notes
are legal tender."Congress{not the Fed} shall have the power to coin money and
regulate the value thereof."Immeddiately after Kennedy's death the printing
was stopped and the existing legal notes were taken out of circulation.

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More from above
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 26, 2006 7:58 PM   
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Many experts are convinced that the Fed ordered the CIA to assassinate the
Kennedy's for printing legal United States Treasury Notes.Over 20 individuals
with evidence to link the CIA to the murders were reportedly killed too.
How did it all happen? On December 23rd,1913,when many members had left for the
holidays ,the Federal Reserve Act was rammed through Congress.One of the few
congressmen who had understood all the issues at stake in this Act,Charles A.Lindburg
{father of the famous aviator}, said:This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth.
When the president{Wilson} signs this bill,the invisible goverment of the Monetary Power
will be legalized.Later Wilson remorsefully stated"I have unwittingly ruined my country"
Thomas Jefferson predited this would happen if we violated our Constitution and allowed
a bank like the FED to exist.Benjamin Franklin said that the primary reason for the
Revolutionary War was to stop the Bank Of England from doing what the Fed is doing to us
now.And guess what?The Bank Of England has more than just alittle finger in the Fed.
Few citizens are aware of this underhanded plot,and mainsteam media is making sure that
people remain ignorant.Why has the media remain silent?
Because it's controlled by the money the Fed leeches from the American Middle Class.
Henry Ford ,Sr once said:"If the people of this nation understood our banking and
monetary system,I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"
What's the solution? As per Congressional Record,the U.S. Goverment can buy back the
FED at any time for $450 million.But Congress has to Act.If the Congressmen aren't doing
there job.
the bribed elements should be voted out of office..Join the 1000's of Americans who are
helping to spread this information.Once enough citizens become aware of the truth our
lackluster Congress will be forsed to Act on the behalf of those it is suppose to serve..
More to come later!!!!!

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Think before you vote
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 26, 2006 8:00 PM   
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Americans,living in what is called the richest nation on earth ,
seem always to be short on money.Wives are working and husbands are working just to make
ends meet.Much of this trouble can be traced to our present "dept-money"system.
When you take out a mortagge,your signed promissory note is a negotiable instrument under
the Uniform Commercial Code,and it is used to fund your morgage.All monies and interest
that repay the morgage are pure profit to the bank.Non-disclosure by the bank of this important
fact can be legal grounds to have your mortgage taken off the books and foreginen.
Just like the Federal Reserve,the Banks create money "out of thin air"Who is paying for the
banks ' Profit?All of us through added inflation. This is shocking and eye-opening information
on an unprecedented money scam perpetrated on the entire nation.A long-overdue education
for most of us.Fight inflation. Get rid of your BANK and join a credit Union!
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberty than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the Goverment at Defiance.
The issuing power of {money} should be taken away from the banks and restored to the
people to whom it proerly belongs" Thomas Jefferson

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this is UNACCEPTABLE!
Posted by: World Can't Wait on Dec 26, 2006 11:33 PM   
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and we must ACT!
worldcantwait.org

This Call of World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is ringing truer every day--

"YOUR GOVERNMENT, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

YOUR GOVERNMENT puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

YOUR GOVERNMENT suppresses the science that doesn't fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving to deny women here, and all over the world, the right to birth control and abortion.

YOUR GOVERNMENT enforces a culture of greed, bigotry, intolerance and ignorance.

People look at all this and think of Hitler - and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come. We must act now; the future is in the balance.

Millions and millions are deeply disturbed and outraged by this. They recognize the need for a vehicle to express this outrage, yet they cannot find it; politics as usual cannot meet the enormity of the challenge, and people sense this.

There is not going to be some magical "pendulum swing." People who steal elections and believe they're on a "mission from God" will not go without a fight.

There is not going to be some savior from the Democratic Party. This whole idea of putting our hopes and energies into "leaders" who tell us to seek common ground with fascists and religious fanatics is proving every day to be a disaster, and actually serves to demobilize people.

But silence and paralysis are NOT acceptable. That which you will not resist and mobilize to stop, you will learn - or be forced - to accept. There is no escaping it: the whole disastrous course of this Bush regime must be STOPPED. And we must take the responsibility to do it.

And there is a way. We are talking about something on a scale that can really make a huge change in this country and in the world. We need more than fighting Bush's outrages one at a time, constantly losing ground to the whole onslaught. We must, and can, aim to create a political situation where the Bush regime's program is repudiated, where Bush himself is driven from office, and where the whole direction he has been taking society is reversed. We, in our millions, must and can take responsibility to change the course of history.

Acting in this way, we join with and give support and heart to people all over the globe who so urgently need and want this regime to be stopped.

This will not be easy. If we speak the truth, they will try to silence us. If we act, they will try to stop us. But we speak for the majority, here and around the world, and as we get this going we are going to reach out to the people who have been so badly fooled by Bush and we are NOT going to stop.

The point is this: history is full of examples where people who had right on their side fought against tremendous odds and were victorious. And it is also full of examples of people passively hoping to wait it out, only to get swallowed up by a horror beyond what they ever imagined. The future is unwritten. WHICH ONE WE GET IS UP TO US."
www.worldcantwait.org

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strange
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 27, 2006 1:35 AM   
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Since the Bushies are very dangerous people it only makes sense that they will indulge in dangerous and strange plans. Bush, Olmert and Blair are the three prime assholes of the current world. Reckless bombing can only worsen things for the USA and clearly indicates that the Bushies should be impeached ASAP and Olmert and Blair should be out of office as well. These military-action-can-save-us fruitcakes are not worthy of governing anybody.

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Total crazyness!!!
Posted by: hillstar on Dec 27, 2006 3:20 AM   
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We must be extremely vigilant. It is our responsibility to ourselves and the rest of the world to oppose any such plans..just put your e mail programs to good use, and bombard your senators and representatives with demands to oppose such crazy plans!!!

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Bush's Victory and Final Legacy... COUNT ON IT
Posted by: xbj on Dec 27, 2006 3:20 AM   
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Getting the United States nuked from sea to shining sea by everything that China and Russia can throw at it, over the suicidal US attempt at taking control of Iran's oil by nuking Iran.

Nothing less. Victory.

Bush's own family is counting on it... that's what they are building an escape compound in South America, far away from the fallout that will spread over the Northern Hemisphere...

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You can't do a thing about it.
Posted by: jjs on Dec 27, 2006 4:08 AM   
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Bush can do as he well pleases. Serious demonstrations on the level of those seen toward the end of the Viet Nam war will be considered as sufficient evidence of domestic civil unrest, thus giving this administration grounds to apply any and all methods against undefined domestic terrorists--dissenters, a critical media, the Internet. At this point, Bush is seriously insane, deluded. He will not tolerate internal strife. He now has unlimited authority to crush it.

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Bush no poker player
Posted by: Democritus on Dec 27, 2006 5:59 AM   
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If George W. Bush played no-limit Texas hold 'em poker he'd be easy pickings. Any plan of his to escalate war in the Middle East would be like going "all in" with a pair of deuces against someone who raised the pot when an ace came on the river.

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A wider war with Syria and Iran
Posted by: mylesh on Dec 27, 2006 6:20 AM   
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This will not happen without the Democratic Party leadership's support.
Therefore, we will have war with Syria and Iran.

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No War in 07
Posted by: robchapman on Dec 27, 2006 7:07 AM   
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I will take the contrarian view in this discussion and state categorically that the US will not expand its military role in the mideast in 07.

After the defeat they suffered in the war against Hezbollah last summer it is unlikely that the Israelis would "lead" a general war against Syria and Iraq.

Such a conflict would deprive Israel of the advantages of concentration and interior lines that have been essential to their past success.

Hezbollah showed the tactics that Arab forces could use to grind down the IDF in a miserable war of attrition.

Although the IDF has the reserves to win such a battle against Hezbollah whose field army numbers only 5,000 the hundreds of thousands of men that Syria or Iran alone could bring to bear could make the cost of such a conflict unsustainable for Israel.

Secondly if the IDF were deployed over a wide range in a country as distant from Israel as Iraq, what forces would Israel have to suppress the Palestineans, maintain internal security and protect her other borders?

Israel simply does not have the depth of resources needed to engage in a protacted, expensive and bloody struggle against her neighbors.

Adding a large and distant country like Iran into the mix would place Israel's existence in near-term jeopardy.

Does the UK have the stomach or resources for such a fight?

The British commanders in Afghanistan are already making public statements that they lack the force levels necessary to suppress the Taliban and prevent a civil war.

Can anyone imagine that a country whose forces cannot suppress the irregular, poorly trained, badly lead and scantily equipped Taliban is likely to prevail against the sort of forces that oil-rich and populous Iran would bring to bear in defense of their own territory?

The Iranians are nearly as numerous as the British and because of the youthfulness of their population would be able to muster a bigger army.

Clearly, the Iranians would be quick the master the tactics Hezbollah used last summer to bloody the Israelis.

That leaves us.

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TLV
Posted by: tlv on Dec 27, 2006 7:12 AM   
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The myth that Israel is the only friend we have amidst a sea of Islamic "enemies" is incorrect. What kind of friend withholds information that you are about to be bombed by passenger planes, that trains Kurds to fight anyone who attempts to invade (including U.S. forces), and attacks another of our friends in Northern Lebanon instead of the South where Hezbollah was the supposed target, and chooses to kill when diplomacy would have worked better. Israel provokes and then runs behind us after the fighting starts. They aren't our friends. They are runt bullies with nothing but arrogance and bigotry to back up their threats, but an arsenal of real weapons supplied OUR COUNTRY are used to do the actual killing! Why do we coddle and protect them? They are using us!

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Why Condemning Israel and the Zionist Lobby is so Important By James Petras
Posted by: rwa on Dec 27, 2006 7:20 AM   
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“It’s no great secret why the Jewish agencies continue to trumpet support for the discredited policies of this failed administration. They see defense of Israel as their number-one goal, trumping all other items on the agenda. That single-mindedness binds them ever closer to a White House that has made combating Islamic terrorism its signature campaign. The campaign’s effects on the world have been catastrophic. But that is no concern of the Jewish agencies.” December 8, 2006 statement by JJ Goldberg, editor of Forward (the leading Jewish weekly in the United States)

12/26/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- Many Jewish writers, including those who are somewhat critical of Israel, have raised pointed questions about our critique of the Zionist power configuration (ZPC) in the United States and what they wrongly claim are our singular harsh critique of the state of Israel. Some of these accusers claim to see signs of ‘latent anti-Semitism’, others, of a more ‘leftist’ coloration, deny the influential role of the ZPC arguing that US foreign policy is a product of ‘geo-politics or the interests of big oil. With the recent publication of several widely circulated texts, highly critical of the power of the Zionist ‘lobby’, several liberal pro-Israel publicists generously conceded that it is a topic that should be debated (and not automatically stigmatized and dismissed) and perhaps be ‘taken into account.’

ZPC Deniers: Phony Arguments for Fake Claims

The main claims of ZPC deniers take several tacks: Some claim that the ZPC is just ‘another lobby’ like the Chamber of Commerce, the Sierra Club or the Society for the Protection of Goldfish. Others claim that by focusing mainly on Israel and by inference the ‘Lobby’, the critics of Zionism ignore the equally violent abuses of rulers, regimes and states elsewhere. This ‘exclusive focus’ on Israel, the deniers of ZPC argue, reveals a latent or overt anti-Semitism. They propose that human rights advocates condemn all human rights abusers everywhere (at the same time and with the same emphasis?). Others still argue that Israel is a democracy – at least outside of the Occupied Territories (OT) – and therefore is not as condemnable as other human rights violators and should be ‘credited’ for its civic virtues along with its human rights failings. Finally others still claim that, because of the Holocaust and ‘History-of-Two-Thousand-Years-of-Persecution’, criticism of Jewish-funded and led pro-Israel lobbies should be handled with great prudence, making it clear that one criticizes only specific abuses, investigates all charges – especially those from Arab/Palestinian/United Nations/European/Human Rights sources -- and recognizes that Israeli public opinion, the press and even the Courts or sectors of them may also be critical of regime policies.

These objections to treating the Israeli-Palestinian-Arab conflict and the activities of Zionist Lobbies as central to peace and war serve to dilute, dissipate and deflate criticism and organized political activity directed at the ZPC and its directors in Israel.

The response of the critics of Israel and the ZPC to these attacks has been weak at best and cowardly at worst. Some critics have responded that their criticism is only directed toward a specific policy or leader, or to Israeli policies in the OT and that they recognize Israel is a democracy, that it requires secure borders, and that it is in the interests of the Israeli ‘people’ to lower their security barriers. Others argue that their criticism is directed at securing Israeli interests, influencing the Zionist Lobby or to opening a debate...
Balance of article:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15989.htm

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Bushwhacko
Posted by: hapibeli on Dec 27, 2006 7:40 AM   
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George W. Bush, the Whack de tutti Whacko, and his consiglieri, Dick, the Grimace, Cheney.

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No War in 07
Posted by: robchapman on Dec 27, 2006 7:44 AM   
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The current debate about a US invasion of Iran and or Syria has taken a bit of the luster off the Christmas season.

GW Bush, who campaigned for President as a uniter and not a divider has divided us during the season of peace with discussion of yet another optional war.

Ironically, one of the GOP rationales for invading Iraq was that the Saddam Hussein regime threatened its neighbors with military force.

Is the American population really capable of breaking its word and doing exactly what it said it was trying to prevent?

This is an instance that calls for reasoned dialog and discussion at the grass roots level.

American peace activists should seek out people who are concerned about our security and prone to support the administration and talk to them.

There is no need to rehash past mistakes or to call people names or reproach them.

Remind them that they supported the Administration for principled and worthy reasons and remind them of the promises they made to the rest of us when they advocated military action.

Particularly remind them of their promises to bring peace and prosperity to the Persian Gulf region.

Challenge them as to whether a wider war and invasion of Iran supports their goal and whether it is a feasilble response to events.

My experience is that this sort of reasoned and non-threatening dialogue has changed many minds.

Bush is currently seeking to shore up his support among conservative Democrats and security minded moderates.

His political offensive is weak and so far ineffective.

The President's December 20 press conference was a disaster. Its time of day and the day on which he chose to speak guarenteed low public exposure to his remarks.

The President's December 20 press conference was all but invisible.

If the President was using the press conference to communicate with the American people, and there is no reason to think otherwise, he failed.

This is a stark contrast with the media savvy and effectiveness that Bush has displayed in the past.

Clearly, the strains of the office are affecting his judgement and he is losing even his undisputed qualities of strength.

If Bush is losing his media savvy what does he have left?

Clearly his political judgement, strategic thinking, and administrative abilities are questionable if not downright mediocre.

If we on the left can avoid shrill invective and talk calmly and persuasively to moderates and conservatives instead, we can certainly isolate Bush farther.

The effect of isolating Bush will be to change the political dynamics.

Such a change in the political dynamics will make congressional oversight for war opperations stronger.

Isolating Bush will assist in moving resources away from war related activities and toward other national goals in the appropriations process.

Isolating Bush will help us reverse the infringements of the Constitution and erosion of American liberty that have been enacted at the Administration's behest.

Isolating Bush will help reverse the Administration's policies of torture and mistreatment of men interned by the military in war zones.

Isolating Bush will strengthen the elements of the GOP that oppose the war.

Isolating Bush will strengthen the moderates in both parties and advance the national healing that is necessary after the divisiveness and polarity fostered by the divide and conquer governing strategy of the Bush Administraion.

Most of all isolating Bush will bring people who are willing to work for peace with justice- replacing than those calling for sacrifice toward false victory- to the forefront.

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WHAT?!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 27, 2006 8:39 AM   
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From the article:
"President Bush's goal would be to transcend the bloody quagmire bogging down U.S. forces in Iraq by achieving "regime change" in Syria and by destroying nuclear facilities in Iran."

Oh, yeah, Bush will "transcend" it all right – by expanding the bloody quagmire five-fold. Of course, in his twisted mind, the "war" in Iraq has gone so swimmingly well that why not take on the region's junkyard dog, Iran, right? (When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging; you don't fight an oil fire by pouring gasoline on it; you don't stop lemmings from going over a cliff by shoving more in behind them; [fill in your own cliche:_____].)

What is it going to take for the sheeple of America to realize that we are being led by madmen? In this new potential debacle, we can only hope for a Pentagon refusal – somebody over there must have the common sense our Vietnam-dodger president lacks.

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US Must Accept a New World Order - Islamic Crescent
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 27, 2006 9:07 AM   
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The Bush fiasco with Iraq will finally end with several Arab countries in the Middle East obtaining dominance and a certain amount of control in the region. Perhaps, Hamas, Hezballah, Syria and Iran-Iraq, will be to a certain degree, united. The Bush mistake however is to see this as absolutely a "bad thing," but this is not the "cold war" anymore, and Bush (and company) need to re-think things. An Islamic crescent will just be a natural emergence of powers in the region exercising solidarity and alliance. Much as the USA is allied with countries via NATO and other treaties. Furthermore, an Islamic Crescent will have no problem selling oil to the USA, and might even be easier to deal with collectively then the countries and powers individually. Lastly, it will check Israel, the military powerhouse in the region that is blocking peace right now. So, Bush needs to study this and see that it will ultimately be good for the USA and good for the region and the world.

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What is REALLY going on (part I)
Posted by: Carl Street on Dec 27, 2006 10:01 AM   
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My take on the Israel/Palestine situation is (surprise surprise) radically different than most...

First, a little history. Following WWII, the victorious powers attempted to reestablish their pre-war colonial patterns. Among the first to attempt this was France who tried it in both French Indo-China (Viet Nam) and French Algeria. However, WWII had left a legacy of weapons caches; huge quantities of arms both indigenous and available in post war arms markets. More importantly, their haste to draft native peoples as cannon fodder had created a large cadre of battle-hardened, experienced and bloodied troops who knew how to use those weapons and, had been trained in sabotage and guerilla operations, etc.

Observing the fiascos created by French and British attempts to reestablish their influence in the Far East, India and North Africa, the USA recognized that any attempt to colonialize the Middle East was probably doomed to failure and/or at least result in such protracted and expensive military operations as to render it impractical. So they hit upon a diabolically clever scheme to colonize by proxy by creating the "state" of Israel.

This solved a number of problems for the USA....

1. We had large quantities of DP's (displaced persons) in Europe following WWII and had already suffered a political disaster in Operation Keel Haul of trying to forcibly "repatriate" (dump) them on the East after WWII so we needed an alternative "dumping ground" for these largely undocumented refugees -- all we had to do was declare them "jews" -- if you look at their real ethnicity you would be amazed at who suddenly became "jewish". This last was especially true because the USA made all kinds of promises of land, prosperity (land flowing with milk an honey?), and opportunity to people who had no economic options in post war Europe and, thus, many suddenly decided that adopting the identity of being a "persecuted jew" was their best shot and willingly and enthusiastically took the Israel option regardless of their actual ethnicity and/or religious persuasion. Without documentation, who could prove otherwise -- so it was an easy sale.
2. War weary USA citizens would probably NOT support a USA incursion into the Middle East; and these DP's and a loose rabble of radical Zionist idealists were the perfect patsies to become cannon fodder in a USA Middle Eastern invasion by proxy. Once they arrived, they had NO option but to fight for their lives against the indigenous peoples as there was no going back.
3. The USA could assume the politically popular mantle of being a modern Moses conducting a modern Exodus instead of a foreign invader.
4. In a classic Rhodes operation, the USA had created an economically and militarily dependent minority surrounded by hostile powers that either obeyed USA dictums or faced extinction. Thus these "new jews" were and are in reality hostages suckered into being USA colonialist proxies.
5. Large quantities of self-deluding REAL Jews world wide have also been suckered into supporting ISRAEL politically and economically and will shout down anyone who points out the obvious charade I have listed above as "anti-semitic" thus solving the problem of USA political propaganda. It is the equivalent of USA citizens "supporting the troops" by sending them to their deaths in a foreign lands and all the while feeling smugly patriotic; of course, these "patriots" would not DREAM of going themselves. I have no doubt that even some of the Israeli locals themselves are unaware of their hostage status and buy into the well crafted illuson of their supposed autonomy.

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What is REALLY going on (part II)
Posted by: Carl Street on Dec 27, 2006 10:02 AM   
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6. It was also a classic divide and conquer move. The fact is the Arabs are as semitic a people as the real Jews. But in the bizzaro world of USA propaganda; phony jews who are NOT even remotely semitic peoples killing real semitic peoples in Palestine is "pro-semitic" while criticizing those same killings of semites by non-semites is "anti-semitic". Thus by using the Israel ploy we undermined much of what could have been a united front against USA colonialism.

The reality is that Israel is NOT a country; in fact; it is NOT even a colony; it is an American military base -- this is easy to see if one takes off the propaganda induced blinders and looks at the raw facts:

1. A country is a politically autonomous geographical area with a self-sustaining economy; common history; language; and the military ability to control its borders.
2. A Colony is a geographical area with limited political autonomy (can't make their own foreign policy) with an economy captivated by a "mother" country and reliant upon the military prowess of same.
3. A Military BASE is a geographical area that is completely dependent upon a "mother" country for supplies (has little or no sustaining economy); no political autonomy (they follow orders).

Israel is a USA base. Of course, large smoke-screen operations are conducted to mask this and pretend they have autonomy; but the economic and military reality is that if we withdrew our support the place would implode within a few weeks -- at most. Moreover, did you know that refusing to do business with Israel is a FEDERAL CRIME in the USA? ONLY ONE other entity is covered by that same law -- refusing to do business with the USA Military!

Perhaps more importantly, Israel's proxy fallacy allows the USA to conduct radical foreign policy experiments with little or no risk. For example, if Iran is bombed, I have no doubt that "Israeli mavericks" will do it; while we sit by and claim we were "surprised" -- followed by the ultimate in hypocrisy; we will no doubt offer to broker a peace.

Finally, The Israel proxy fallacy gives the USA political and military cliques the ultimate money laundering machine. Large quantities of funds can be "lent" to Israel (none of which is ever paid back) which then are used to "purchase" and/or develop military hardware. Also, these funds are used to fund "campaign contributions"; covert operations; compromise, threaten and murder anyone who threatens this system. It is the perfect way of funneling huge amounts of funds into the hands of the PIP's (People In Power) without the inconvenience of audits and oversight.

The LAST thing the USA wants is peace in the Middle East. The interests of the PIP's is best served by continued strife. It not only provides an excuse to populate and sustain military bases throughout the area; but it also keeps the locals from organizing any real threat to the system or even developing their own resources and independent economies. Thus, sustained conflict in the Middle East is the perfect tool to keep the locals in a permanent colonial status.

I may NOT have all the details right; but THINK about it -- despite WWII being over 60 years in the past we have a range of world-wide bases that Hitler and Tojo could only dream about. As I have said before; ignore the patter (story) and watch the hands (what is going on) if you REALLY want to know the truth.

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Worst possible choice is invasion
Posted by: hlt on Dec 27, 2006 10:16 AM   
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It was published yesterday that Iran is unable to meet their oil quota. The people are not really all behind their present leader (nor are we for ours) so there is a weakening support for the Iranian government. The country is somewhat at odds with itself which means that change will come from within. It was also observed that if we invade then it will unite Iran against the invading forces, therefore invasion is the worst possible move. Following the insanity of our administration then this means that we will invade.
Fundamentalist Christianity and Fundamentalist Islam as governments have made monkeys of us all. The greater choice is to fight the right (wings).

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Middle East
Posted by: Maryanne on Dec 27, 2006 10:42 AM   
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Georgie's playing soldiers on daddy's rug has already spread in reality throughout the Middle East.

The puppet government in Iraq has already reached out to Syria and Iran, Saudi Arabia is funding the Sunnis in Iraq, Turkey is already talking about the terrorist group within the Kurdish population in Iraq which it plans to attack if it is not stopped elsewhere, while we are training an Iraqi army, which is Shiite, who are using this training to attack the Sunnis.

We don't need to attack Iran or Syria. The damage to the extended Middle East has already happened. When one of your "allies" (Saudi Arabia for example) is funding an insurgency that we are trying to defang (are we?), we have lost already.

We MUST get out NOW. Bush won't leave. The only option is for Congress to cut ALL funds for the Pentagon and this operation. (Excluding of course medical care to those who have been injured while Bush played soldiers.)

I remind you all that when Bush went to meet with representatives of the Middle East it was NOT in Iraq because it was too dangererous there for him. But, not for our young military. He should be required to meet with whom he must IN IRAQ (not the green zone) to give him an idea of what playing soldiers really means.

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cornered snake
Posted by: ng1944 on Dec 27, 2006 11:17 AM   
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Did You ever observed cornered dog
or cornered snake.
Bush, Blare, Olmert all cornered snakes.
The more dangerous.

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Aztec
Posted by: aztec on Dec 27, 2006 12:03 PM   
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Bush has adopted the Israeli solution for the Middle East: control the natives you want to steal from, not only through terrorism, impoverishment, collective punishment attacks on civilians and the civilian infrastructure to destroy the economy, ethnic cleansing, massacres and constant humiliation and disruption of daily life to make staying alive a massive burden everyday by the targeted population, but to promote confessional, sectarian, ethnic and racial violence among the targeted population. Far from being a failure, Iraq is a stunning success for Bush: he has his permanent military bases and control over the oil. Currently, Bush is pushing the puppet government to legalize the privatization of the oil industry and organize the pillage through decades long agreements between US oil companies and the government. This is also at the heart of the ISG report. It's been SOP for oil companies to impose these detailed agreements superseding the law in unstable settings to steal all of the wealth but kickback enough to keep a tiny comprador class filthy rich. Bush is having the IMF put the screws to Iraq by making oil privatization a condition for relieving Iraq of just enough of the odious debt not to crush Iraq that Saddam assumed from, among others, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the US, for carrying-out the 8 year war against Iran which all 3 of them encouraged Saddam to launch to shield the Sunni royalty from Shia Iran. A principal reason Saddam invaded Kuwait was because they and the Saudis refused to forgive the war debts Saddam assumed to make this war. Since this debt was incurred under Saddam's dictatorship for an illegal aggressive war, the debt should be considered odious under international law and forgiven for the new Iraq.

Continuous war is a wonderful thing for Bush and his war-profiteering backers. War creates it's own endless demand and a lone consumer with the deepest of deep pockets. The exigencies of war keep prices sky-high. Competition is reduced or eliminated. The opportunities for fraud become infinite. There's virtually no oversight of costs and the quality of the war products produced. Even before the advent of Busho-fascism, the War Department was unable to determine what it spent a quarter to a third of it's annual budget on.

Thus, Bush, his family and his self-proclaimed base of the very rich and the filthy rich are able to loot the Treasury. Best of all, since Bush has been successful in waging his class war for his base, the tax proceeds being looted are from the most regressive taxes imposed on ordinary Americans, payroll taxes, and the tax burden he has transferred from his base to the middle class and those below. By looting the Treasury, Bush is able to reduce or eliminate the flow of federal money going to the Americans he is waging war on and can argue that Social Security is broke because he's stolen all of it's surplus.

On a personal level, continuous war has been wonderful for Bush. Bush thinks lying in the US into an illegal war makes him America's Fuehrer. He can disappear anyone at his whim and imprison, torture, maim or murder them. He's committed the most heinous of the war crimes that the US hung Nazis and Japanese militarists for after WWII. He's eliminated the Bill of Rights, without which the the formation of the the US would never have been agreed to. He's eliminated the 11th century right of habeas corpus , which is the right of someone detained by the government to force the government to prove to an independent judge that they are being detained for bona fide criminal conduct. He's eliminated posse comitatus which allows Bush to use the American military in the US against the American people, at his whim. He's proudly violated the Constitution, US criminal law, national security law for political purposes, and international law that the US has bound itself to by treaty.

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Where are the Saudis on this?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 27, 2006 12:28 PM   
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This story seems to fit in with other predictions of an assault on Iraq by people such as Scott Ritter. Of course, such an assault will drive global oil prices through the roof, which will benefit the Bush and Cheney neocon crime families (Cheney is still associated with Halliburton, but his investments in Vanguard are directly linked to Exxon and Chevron as well, and the Bush Sr.-Carlyle-Saudi binLadin Group connection is still active). The Five Ruling Families of the Arabian Peninsula must have some opinion on this; could an assault on Iran possibly occur without their tactic approval?

What about the fact that the Saudi-Pakistani connection means that the Saudis could probably acquire nuclear weapons from Pakistan with great ease via the ISI - AQ Khan network? Here's a scenario that should give Mideast planners pause: the Saudi Royals acquire nuclear weapons via Pakistan, and then are overthrown by an Al Queda-led revolution which puts nukes in the hands of Osama bin Ladin - what would the US do then?

Bush and Cheney are stupid, greedy criminal neocon idiots with a fetish for fascism. If there was such a thing as justice and the rule of law in this country, they'd be in prison right now.

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Find the truth if you dare
Posted by: mite on Dec 27, 2006 3:19 PM   
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http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden_speech_1932.html

"The Bankruptcy of the United States" at 'Citizens for Better Government, scroll down to this on the page.

We need to die in this coming war in the middle east to pay our debt people, the Bilderbergs our masters have ruled this. It is the only way to pay the $10 Trillion debt our Congress allowe since 1913.

Kiss your children goodbye people, what is ahead will bring in the New World Order. A nuclear war will begin within the next 6 months. I know; laugh at me, enjoy it cause it will be our last. www.articbeacon.com and GCNlive.com will give the truth no thanks to the other press. But you better hurry cause their going to shut down the truth after Congress returns.

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MORE than TALK
Posted by: World Can't Wait on Dec 27, 2006 6:45 PM   
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When future generations ask, "What did you DO when the U.S. was engaging in war crimes and crimes against humanity"...

Don't you want to be able to say you did more than READ about it?!
www.worldcantwait.org
GET INVOLVED!

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May be we have to help Zionists
Posted by: ng1944 on Dec 27, 2006 7:21 PM   
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It looks like Zionists are doing everything to destroy
american constitution and establish fashism in this country.
May be we have to help them, because than Jewish
question will be solved ones and forever

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SAME OLD THING
Posted by: nikolai on Dec 28, 2006 12:50 PM   
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Bu$h, Cheney and their fellow outlaw elitists are doing what the uber wealthy have been doing throughout history. Find a poor country full of poor defensless people and kill them and steal their resources and lands. Their forefathers did this to the Native Americans and now it is being done to the Iraqi's and if these neocon criminals get their way, they will kill thousands and take Syria and Iran and any other territories they can grab as well (can you say, "Afghanistan?"). This is how the wealthy get wealthy and stay wealthy. They also get a cut of income taxes in the form of the Federal Reserve, as they are part of the Federal Reserve in that they own stock in the major banks which make up the Fed. They also make the laws that allow them to get away with this highway robbery. Pretty sweet deal, but it's all blood money any way you look at it.

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BUSH SECURITY POLICIES WERE CLEARLY FALSE AND MISLEADING!!
Posted by: tmac100 on Dec 28, 2006 7:42 PM   
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The Iraq War started and Bush began to seek for the WMDs Saddam was supposed to have had. The search turned up empty, after Bush told us he will not allow an independent investigation of 911, because that would take up too much resources that otherwise would be necessary for the war on terror. Since that time, the baptized "Jesus party" has been doing everything to lie and tell us that Saddam had WMDs.

Now they are constantly posting those dreaded, CONSPIRACY THEORIES that maybe Saddam did have WMDs after all! Not only can those CONSPIRACY THEORIES not be proven, but the opposite can be proven!

Some are telling us that Saddam actually had WMDs, but just before the Iraq War, he shipped all of them out of the country. When I was in college in the late 70s we were informed that America has reconnaisance capabilities to be able to see a basketball from space.

Before Operation Desert Storm, a special satellite was launched so the United States can spy on Iraq from overhead. Between Operation Desert Storm and Bush's illegal war, all the WMDs had to have been moved without America knowing!

But to add the most to the absurdity, is the fact that the Nazicons are telling us that Saddam would rather ship all his WMDs out of the country rather than keep them to help him defend his country against the New America demanding that he surrender all of them, "OR ELSE!" We are talking about that country that already made a shambles of his own country. Saddam, viewed as the madman and mad dictator, would rather disarm himself on the brink of impending war with America!

The final finishing touch to prove Saddam had no WMDs appears with the very fraudulent Bush policy on security. Bush and his fellow conspirators subverting everywhere in America declared that TORTURE was necessary to use against their enemies, because this would force them to divulge information that could possibly save innocent lives. They therefore incorporated these principles into American security policy that America never needed against their enemies even during WWI and WWII! We are talking about the "Jesus" party that is skilled in teaching the world about the horrors of "PARANOIA."

If Bush knew that Saddam had such WMDs, HE WOULD HAVE TORTURED SADDAM TO EVEN REVEAL WHERE HE HAD STASHED THOSE WMDS AWAY! This would have saved more lives and would have exhonerated Bush's record IF SADDAM REALLY DID HAVE WMDS according to the policies of Bush! Bush forgot to read his own script, and was not interested in torturing Saddam for that information partly because he always knew Saddam didn't have any around the time of the sanctions and inspections!!

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GLOBAL VILLAGE IDIOT -> (Bush)
Posted by: Hal on Dec 28, 2006 8:23 PM   
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GW and his scatty band of oligarch lapdogs are certainly criminals. But they are criminals that typically carry out orders. Bush decides nothing outside what is handed to him by owners of the system he works for. Ditto for Washington and its parrot MSM.

the “SYSTEM”:

A multinational criminal cartel oligarchy extorts the globe by way of a private and unconstitutional “Federal Reserve” Corporation [not federal and no reserves but a Ponzi con], World Bank, IMF and Bank for International Settlements, etc.

This blood money parasite oligarchy was bulldozed to power in the dead of winter, 1913 for the usual suspects. In other words, for cartel robber barons that never left power as they pretended to by finally taking control of the MSM and “education”.


“I HAVE UNWITTINGLY RUINED MY COUNTRY…WE HAVE COME TO BE ONE OF THE WORST RULED, ONE OF THE MOST COMPLETLEY CONTROLLED AND DOMINATED GOVERNMENTS IN THE WORLD… A GOVERNMENT BY THE OPINION AND DURESS OF A SMALL GROUP OF DOMINANT MEN.”
PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON (on oligarch tyranny, three years after signing a “Federal Reserve Act” and its privately owned “Federal Reserve” Corporation credit monopoly into law. Quote 1916)

‘THIS [FEDERAL RESERVE] ACT ESTABLISHES THE MOST GIGANTIC TRUST [PRIVATE MONOPOLY] ON EARTH. WHEN THE PRESIDENT [WILSON] SIGNS THIS BILL, THE INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT OF THE MONEY POWER WILL BE LEGALIZED… THE WORST LEGISLATIVE CRIME OF THE AGES IS PERPETRATED BY THIS BANKING AND CURRENCY BILL.”
CONGRESSMAN CHARLES A. LINDBERG SR. (speaking to Congress in opposition to the global banking cartel and its privately owned “Federal Reserve” Corporation monopoly. December 23rd, 1913)

“THESE INTERNATIONAL AND ROCKEFELLER-STANDARD OIL INTERESTS CONTROL THE MAJORITY OF NEWSPAPERS AND THE COLUMNS OF THESE PAPERS TO CLUB INTO SUBMISSION OR DRIVE OUT OF PUBLIC OFFICE OFFICIALS WHO REFUSE TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE POWERFUL CORRUPT CLIQUES WHICH COMPOSE THE INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT.”
PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT (denouncing a global money power cartel, President from 1901-1909, Roosevelt lived to see the creation of a privately owned and controlled Federal Reserve Corporation by the Invisible Government of international bank monopolists.1858-1919)

“BRITAIN IS THE SLAVE OF AN INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL BLOC.”
BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE (on the money cartel June 20, 1934)

‘THE MODERN BANKING SYSTEM CREATES MONEY OUT OF NOTHING…[PRIVATE CARTEL] BANKERS OWN THE EARTH. TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM, BUT LEAVE THEM THE POWER TO CREATE MONEY AND CONTROL CREDIT, AND WITH A FLICK OF A PEN THEY WILL CREATE ENOUGH TO BUY IT BACK.”
SIR JOSIAH STAMP (Governor of the Bank of England; the 2nd richest man in Britain c. 1928)

“THE RULING CLASS HAS THE SCHOOLS AND PRESS UNDER ITS THUMB. THIS ENABLES IT TO SWAY THE EMOTIONS OF THE MASSES.”
DOCTOR ALBERT EINSTEIN (Nobel Laureate and refugee from Nazi fascism. 1879-1955)

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Sharon
Posted by: Sharon on Dec 30, 2006 8:00 AM   
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Typical of bullies to let someone else do their fighting. Why hasn't more been made of our involvement in Israel's attack on Lebanon? Truth Out! Sharon E. Streeter, author, the bush rage series. www.bushrageAllowed.com

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This will happen...
Posted by: JCKennedy on Dec 30, 2006 4:24 PM   
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We are now within a time of dubious motives from our so called political leaders. The people behind the laughable Bush administration are purposefully inciting violence within the middle east knowing full well that these outcomes strengthen their moral presence in the area. After all, divide and conquer. Iraq is the tactical jewel in the crown. Lying right in the centre of both Syria and Iran. Just look at a map and see for yourselves. Isreal also nicely divides Palestine with its ridiculous borders. This was always the agenda and I can't believe that we have no safe guards against these enemies of freedom. Orwellian state here we come and pleased to meet you sir.

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calm down everyone
Posted by: miggy on Jan 5, 2007 10:39 AM   
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There are a few posts on the debt based money system with this article. To those writing them, calm down. The information youve found is exciting but you really dont know what your talking about,,,,,yet. Learn more before you share.

As far as Bushs war, i have good news. America is not involved. The United States is handling this one, not America. You all may be happy to know that there are no Americans in Iraq, only United States Citizens. If you dont know the difference between the two youd better start educating yourselves.

If any of you question this, i can prove it very easily. What flag is that on the arms of the soldiers in Iraq? Its not an American flag. Those soldiers are not Americans. If i were to go out on a limb, id say that wierd backwards, American looking flag is really a corporate or UN flag, intended to fool us into believing that we are all involved in this sham.

Ive never felt involved or minutely responsible for bush or Iraq, Im an American with a clean concious, from a Republic not a democracy(socialism).

Bush represents his corporation and anyone that wishes to follow(volluntary). That should make you all fell better and not be so hard on the guy. Just because all of you were gullible enough to fall for this carpet baggers scam of believing we are all something we are not.

As far as soldiers in Iraq, there are none. What is in Iraq are mercenaries. These people in United States Corporation combat gear vollunteered to murder in the name of corporate profit. They signed away their American citizenship and took up weapons to kill becuase they needed a job and since all Americans are kind and loving, who better to do the killing than kind loving people who will kill kindly and lovingly.... oh yeah , ,, for freedom?????? (sounds like the police here eh?)

If you think this is unlikely ill point out Katrina. With tens of thousands of homeless and hungry, an army of vollunteer looter shooters showed up but no one with food or medical supplies. This accentuates the mercenary mentality being nurtured in our kind, loving people.

Something to think about

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