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Negotiation Is Bush's Only Way Out of Iraq

By Joe Conason, Truthdig. Posted December 16, 2006.


What deserves far greater attention in the Iraq Study Group report is its conclusion that there is no military solution to the American dilemma in Iraq, and that the only way out is negotiation.

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Before the publication of the Iraq Study Group report, predictions abounded that the committee, chaired by James Baker III and Lee Hamilton, would offer little new and nothing radical. Bipartisan mush in soft covers seemed the most likely product of any Washington group whose first imperative was unanimity.

Yet the former secretary of state, the retired Indiana congressman and their colleagues exceeded those expectations. Bland as their language is, they assessed the overall failure of the Bush administration's foreign policy in the Middle East, from the president's abandonment of the Arab-Israeli peace process to his distraction from securing Afghanistan. And they urged him, in the strongest terms, to adopt a new policy of engagement with adversaries in Syria and Iran.

That emphasis on diplomacy became the focus of media coverage -- along with the report's rejection of both immediate redeployment of American troops and indefinite commitment to their presence in Iraq. What deserved far greater attention, however, was the most important of the Baker-Hamilton committee's conclusions: namely, that there is no military solution to the American dilemma in Iraq, and that the only way out is negotiation. In the report, most references to this reality appear under the euphemistic category known as "national reconciliation."

Its recommendations on security and military forces, for example, begin with a clear admonition: "There is no action the American military can take that, by itself, can bring about success in Iraq." Which is obvious enough, except to a few politicians and commentators urging an impossible escalation of tens of thousands of troops. Then the same section goes on to urge the Iraqi government -- as the report repeatedly does throughout its 100 pages -- to "accelerate the urgently needed national reconciliation program to which it has already committed."

In other words, any changes in military policy are ancillary to negotiations among the warring factions (and their foreign sponsors). Actually, the report is quite explicit in demanding that the authorities in Baghdad and Washington sit down with their armed opponents to talk about every relevant issue -- including the date for the withdrawal of American troops.

Outlining the steps that the Bush administration can take to assist in reconciliation, the report recommends open negotiations on the presence of American forces. Although the committee members oppose setting any timetables or deadlines for withdrawal, they acknowledge that the insurgents must be convinced that a "successful national reconciliation dialogue will advance that departure date." Recommendation 34 deserves to be quoted in full: "The question of the future US force presence must be on the table for discussion as the national reconciliation dialogue takes place. Its inclusion will increase the likelihood of participation by insurgents and militia leaders, and thereby increase the possibilities for success."

As the report goes on to explain: "Violence cannot end unless dialogue begins, and the dialogue must involve those who wield power, not simply those who hold political office. The United States must try to talk directly to Grand Ayatollah Sistani [the most revered Shiite leader]. ... The United States must also try to talk directly to Moqtada al-Sadr [the Mahdi Army warlord], to militia leaders, and to [Sunni] insurgent leaders."

The significant word in that paragraph is not "should" but "must" -- and the same imperative is used to urge the United States and the Iraqi government to support amnesty for the insurgents. "Despite being politically unpopular," the report acknowledges, "amnesty is essential if progress is to take place. Iraqi leaders need to be certain that they have US support as they move forward with this critical element of national reconciliation."

Equally critical to the advancement of negotiations -- with both the internal enemies of the Iraqi government and neighboring states -- is a plain statement by President Bush that the United States has no plans for permanent military bases in Iraq and no desire to control its oil resources. The ambitions once cherished by neoconservatives must be explicitly abandoned.

Whether this plan can accomplish broad pacification and the eventual disarming of the militias and insurgents, as envisioned by the Iraq Study Group, is subject to doubt. The appalling and senseless attacks on innocent civilians that occur every day do not encourage hope. But the time has come to insist on realistic measures that will permit most of our troops to come home within the coming year. Unless the president understands that he must pursue negotiation and amnesty rather than an illusory victory, his promised "change of course" will only be more of the same, and worse.

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Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 16, 2006 12:36 AM   
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While it would be nice for the Bushies to negotiate peace in Iraq and elsewhere the fact is that they are such blatent war criminals that it would be impossible for them to do so. War criminals deserve only two things: trials and jail time. If the Bushies show compassion by complete and total withdrawal of troups and other personnel from Iraq then the war crimes prosecutors should show them what compassion means by reducing their sentences. McCain should show his compassion by pressuring the Bushies to totally withdraw from Iraq instead of promoting sending even more troops to commit even more war crimes.

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» RE: nice Posted by: willymack
Only a road
Posted by: Captainmagic on Dec 16, 2006 1:58 AM   
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To travel along and it does not require additional troops.....Those that you have there are not doing the job...have never done the job...can't do the job...and you want to put more advisor's with iraqi troops.....just ask your green berret's how that worked in Vietnam.....Your lads would be looking into each others eyes and saying.....er it must be your turn...no..no i went out last week F&*k...F&*k.....well draw straws...shit ....shit...shit...just have a look into their faces and see the resignation...For heavens sake get real...A death sentence in an occupation zone....Iraqi soldier to amerikan advisor.....hey bro just stand there for a sec OK...they are going to show you the back door or worse the door by which you came in UNINVITED. So why all the funny talk about the baker findings or your presidents imaginings...It's over....we all kinda know it.....All those who have died in the amerikan army to date, may have died for a mistaken mission. Those who die from now on are for absolutely "ZERO"......absolutely.. "F&*KEN ZERO"
So General, blow your whistle and we will all follow YOU over the top...No... not comming over the top with us...oh thats right, your name's Billy.... not silly.

Captain OUT

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Famous Quotes
Posted by: Intraspecto on Dec 16, 2006 2:47 AM   
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"I am the deciderer...er something like that..." (Dick, get me my prozac, earmuffs, and orang slices- here comes the meedia..."

"We will stay the course" (Iraq is burning, oh yea laura, get me a beer, Texas A&M is playing...were gonna whoop em')

Hmmm...gotta love politicians....

By the way, if you think Bush is gonna negotiate over this shit, Ha! fat chance. He will most likely go down with Dick and the ship...

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» RE: Famous Quotes Posted by: asilsfable
Don't forget Afghanistan
Posted by: Moonray on Dec 16, 2006 3:10 AM   
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It's almost amusing, the way pundits talk about Iraq as if it exists in a vacuum in some distant universe. Actually, many of the sad conclusions made recently about the Iraq conflict also apply to NATO involvement in Afghanistan and, for that matter, to Bush's ill-defined and ill-fated "war on terror" in general.

NATO can continue to occupy Afghanistan indefinitely, but can't seem to win there, especially in the south, and will continue to take casualties indefinitely. Why do this? To fight terrorism? Please. Google "Afghanistan pipeline" to learn what's really at stake.

But are we going to agonize over Iraq for the next five years and then spend the five years after that going through a very similar process with Afghanistan? Are our leaders that stupid? No, but we are, for letting them get away with this botched foreign policy. And the saddest part is that 23 months from now, millions of Americans will march to the polls and STILL vote Republican. It's enough to make you throw up your hands, change your name and move to France.

Except the French wouldn't have us, and I don't blame them.

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» RE: Don't forget Afghanistan Posted by: dannyboybell
» Modify the Demand Posted by: edith
Oh contraire!
Posted by: slydad on Dec 16, 2006 5:01 AM   
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You can't negotiate with terrorists. What this author and the Baker bunch are advocating is surrender disguised as negotiation. What they want is for us to look like a big clumsy bully who got put in his place. And the main reason for that is home side politics, not world peace. It would bode well for Democrats for us to fail in our effort to successfully depose Saddam and replace his regime with a democratically elected government that can represent all of the Iraqi people and establish the “New Iraq” as a stable force and another American ally in the Middle East.

I think it's kind of sad that in order for Democrats to get their power back, they have to want us to fail.

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» who is "us" kemo sabbe? Posted by: edith
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» I remember that! Posted by: slydad
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» That's all you got? Posted by: slydad
» Dem and to hell with the nation! Posted by: Conservasaurus
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'you can't negotiate with a midget", George Bush
Posted by: edith on Dec 16, 2006 5:07 AM   
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NO he didn't say that, (to my knowledge), but it's basically how he views the world. The US, the ever-present "American People" as Bush sees them, are BIG.

Bush believes that the rest of the world needs help, lot's of it. The world, a mini-midget next to the American People, needs "freedom", which is not just freedom of speech and religion, but 'free markets" which Bush has touted since day One in office. Freemarkests of course aren't free; they are markets for govt subsidized big monopolies and corporate suppliers(Oil, Halliburton) to exploit. That's Bushfreedom.

A Giant(us) can't negotiate with a Midget(them). They are too weak and too dumb. And Bush knows Dumb.

Only equals can negotiate.

And America has no equal, in Bushspeak.

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» And You Can't Buy Peace Posted by: edith
» RE: And You Can't Buy Peace Posted by: Conservasaurus
WHY BUSH WILL NOT NEGOTIATE
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 16, 2006 7:11 AM   
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Bush will not negotiate for three reasons:

1. Ideology. The USA is the "the last, best hope of mankind." The USA in this way is perceived as having attained "greatness" based upon "God's plan," and must "show the world" how to act and behave. The ideologues are also involved with some wacky Armageddon ideology that ties in with the Middle East and you will also find much of the Christian Right in this camp.

2. Free Markets, Oil and Hegemony: The Middle East is too important for its oil to be cut off for export to the West. It also presents an opporutnity for corporate and wealthy elites to be propelled into positions of control and authority. Before the "elections" in Iraq, the primary goal of the US Provisional Authority was too parcel out contracts to private companies for Iraqi oil exploitation. All other services, electric, gas, phone, were in the process of being "contracted out." Iraq and the Middle East could also be a good location for cheap, low cost labor.

3. Israel. A small country with over 250 nuclear devices and arguably a regional military superpower in its own right. Unable to resolve a bedrock conflict with the Palestinians and having effectively lobbied and contributed to the campaigns of many US politicians, Israel is a powerful powerbroker when it comes to US actions in the Middle East.
Israel will oppose negotiations and basically does not negotiate herself with anyone, is preoccupied with Iran, and wants the USA to continue the option it is most familiar with, the military one.

Lastly, at no tiime is DEMOCRACY even a factor regards any of the above reasons. If anything, democracy is to be discouraged if it is to be a "democracy" like Chavez or that the Palestinians elected. So, we will not see "negotiations."

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In the meantime, both the left and right continue to support Pakistan, a terrorist nation.
Posted by: superfeduphoosier on Dec 16, 2006 7:16 AM   
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That War On Some Terror

I've written often enough about the Pakistani government's support for the Taliban and other Islamist terror organisers via the shady Pakistani intelligence agency. I've noted that Bush, the Republicans and the Democratic party's powers-that-be have all looked the other way and pretended that Pakistan is an ally in the war on terror.

At what point will Americans figure out that the prime rogue state on the planet right now - the one creating most trouble and terror by its actions - is not Iran or North Korea, but Pakistan? It isn't as if key allies - India, Afghanistan and Britain among them - haven't tried to give warnings. Iraq is a distraction from the main event.

Here's the NY Times today:

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Islamic militants are using a recent peace deal with the government to consolidate their hold in northern Pakistan, vastly expanding their training of suicide bombers and other recruits and fortifying alliances with Al Qaeda and foreign fighters, diplomats and intelligence officials from several nations say. The result, they say, is virtually a Taliban mini-state.

...The militants, the officials say, are openly flouting the terms of the September accord in North Waziristan, under which they agreed to end cross-border help for the Taliban insurgency that revived in Afghanistan with new force this year.

The area is becoming a magnet for an influx of foreign fighters, who not only challenge government authority in the area, but are even wresting control from local tribes and spreading their influence to neighboring areas, according to several American and NATO officials and Pakistani and Afghan intelligence officials.
And Matthew Yglesias gets it exactly right when he says:

The sad factor of the matter is that if we haven't already passed the tipping point in the Afghanistan/Pakistan area, we will have very soon. In practice, by the time Bush is out of office and our troops our out of Iraq, I'm pretty sure it's going to be too late and we're going to need to reconcile ourselves to the fact that Taliban successor groups will have substantially re-entrenched themselves and there won't be very much we can do about it except just kind of hope they don't once again start playing host to terrorists plotting to attack America.
Yet all the talk is about what to do about Pakistani "passivity" in doing something to break up the terror networks on their soil. There is no "passivity", it is quite deliberate. Wake up, America!

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And an update: Bush and Congress to SUPERFUND the Islamists in Pakistan !!!!!
Posted by: superfeduphoosier on Dec 16, 2006 7:18 AM   
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Update Can I just say that I think this is f-ing insane?

WASHINGTON, Dec 10 (Online): Amidst the hoopla over the passage of a Bill to implement the Indo-US Civil Nuclear Deal, the Bush Administration has quietly announced the sale to Pakistan of military equipment worth over one billion dollars. The Defence Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) has notified the US Congress of possible military sales to Pakistan of the E-2C Hawkeye 2000 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) suite and Associated Equipment and services for refurbishing modifying three excess P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft. The total value of this, if all options are exercised, could be as high as 855 million dollars. A routine claim has been made to Congress that this sale will not affect the military balance in the region, Zee news reported on Sunday. The DSCA also notified Congress of another possible military sale to Islamabad of tow 2A missiles and associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $185 million.
The Pentagon are claiming that these sales of sophisticated airplanes and anti-tank missiles are to bolster Pakistan's fight against terrorists and drug-runners. Because we all know about the submarines, attack fighters and tanks Al Qaida and those drug runners have hidden away in their super-secret island base where Blowfeld...oh, wait, that's James Bond.

However, the Pakistani military will see exactly one possible target for advanced airborne command, antisubmarine and anti-armor technology. The armed forces of their neighbour India. Not to mention that they will pass along the details on any really juicy technology to their military ally, China. Both nations are currently engaged in massive military exercises together.

Consider too that much of that $1 billion pricetag will probably be footed by American taxpayers. The Bush administration gives over $300 million a year to Pakistan in military aid.

F-ing blind AND insane.

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Stop the Funding of the War!
Posted by: rwa on Dec 16, 2006 12:18 PM   
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Sign the Petition to Support H.R. 4232
Introduced by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA)

H.R.4232 would prohibit further use of Defense Department funds to deploy United States Armed Forces to Iraq.

Remove space:
http://www.informationcleari nghouse.info/article15920.htm

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» Kucinich Posted by: edith
» RE: Yes! Kucinich Posted by: Ripcord
welcome to another episode of how the liberal wimpers
Posted by: DirtyDave on Dec 16, 2006 1:39 PM   
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it amazes me how so many people with college educations. Can be so ignorant. Negotiations are made from a standpoint of weakness. Those who have true power have no need to negotiate anything.

Right after 9/11 in every one of us was screaming for a blood. And then the Liberals decided that they were traumatized.
Well maybe it's time we all get a clue!
Try using the Internet for something more than playing on eBay & posting stupid opinions. Why don't you take the time to find out what the Muslims are really griping about.
First and foremost their panties are in a bunch because we mindlessly support a real terrorist nation Israel.
Their biggest gripe about America is the stupid mindless liberals seem to think that it's their manifest destiny to inflict their asinine ideology on every body.
By any possible chance is it ever occurred to any of you geniuses at just quite possibly. People have their own systems and values most of which are a lot older than yours and kind of resent someone trying to force their crackpot ideology on them.
Liberals are working their way up to being number one on the hypocrite list, they're fast closing in on Christians for self-righteous nonsense.
Before you decide open your mouths and dictate social policy at rest the universe. Stop and think about your opinion of some infantile jackass attempting to inflict their stupidity on you by force.
Newsflash most of us aren't amused with your antics.

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» Dude, you're an idiot Posted by: lessbread
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» Dear Dirt, Posted by: edith
US Withdrawal Is Only The Beginning
Posted by: braxxian on Dec 16, 2006 6:09 PM   
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Its hard to imagine the mess that the US has made in Iraq. We can talk for Months about the botched invasion, the lack of preperation for its aftermath and the violence and chaos that has ensued ever since. But in truth that's all history now, and hopefully will be a history that the US and other would be invaders will consider before embarking on reckless crusades to "liberate" others.

Many have called the insurgents terrorists, however it has been proven that the vast majority of the resistance is made up of ordinary Iraq's who are fighting against what they see as a invasion of their nation, would you do any diffirently if your country was invaded ?. The withdraway of US troops is only the start of the process that Iraq needs to go through. Saddam for the bastatd that he was did manage to keep the warring parties quiet, now that he has been taken away there is little stopping them from renewing century old fueds. Anyone ith even a basic understanding of the Middle East can tell you this.

So I feel Iraq has a long bloody road ahead of it. I feel fury when the president and characters like Bill O'Riley call the invasion of Iraq a "noble" gesture. There was nothing noble about it. The US went into Iraq for its own selfish reasons, not to help the people. They thought it would be easy, they thought they would rock in there and knock the place over in two weeks and that would be the end of it. War seldom works that way, especially when you are the agressor.

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Kleptocracy
Posted by: waves999 on Dec 17, 2006 4:32 AM   
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Any amateur political scientist knows that there are no military solutions to so-called terrorism. Your gu’mint knew that before they illegally invaded Iraq, they know it now even more so. How can you fight a military tactic with an army? Anyway, the US of A is not interested in getting out of Iraq... it is only interested in stealing Iraq’s OIL! And foolishly attempting to gain more control in the Middle East by strengthening its presence there with a few more military bases -- so it can steal ALL the fucking OIL. Your absolutely & totally corrupt gu’mint -- basically a Kleptocracy -- has been stolen from you, the people, by the Illuminati so don’t expect any changes from the Dems either. The Illuminati has a plan, it’s called the New World Order, and it is going to go down no matter what. The only thing that will “save” us is the fucking Second Coming!!!

Oh, one more thing... Democracy cannot be “exported” it must be earned from within.

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No Confessions By Bush-Cheney and Congress...
Posted by: mite on Dec 17, 2006 11:40 AM   
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are the only way out-PERIOD. Let us start with the (2) elections and the individuals that control our country and the world. Then let us explore the forensics of the 911 lies. Where was Cheney while Bush sat in the classroom and later said in his own words 'I saw the first plane hit WTC building #1. Then let us ask why no one in Congress was given a copy of the Patriot Act (10/2001) to read before the vote.
www.furnitureforthepeople.com

Why did Congress pass the `Military Commissions Act 2006' and why is there no rule that members must read every bill they vote on. Take a day or two and read these bills and find out just what Bush- Congress are up too.

Why did Bush say the Constitution..."is only a piece of paper".
Why did Bush 1 and Bush Jr. sign over 1000 executive orders giving government total control over Congress, Supreme Court, and all our lives.

Why did Bush Jr. sign an agreement with President Fox (Mexico) and Prime Minister Martin (Canada) erasing the Republic and country of these United States titled under `The North American Union' www.spp.gov www.cfr.org www.worlnetdaily.com

Why is there according to the GAO 2854 metric tons of gold missing from the treasury.
Why is Henry Kissinger (CFR member) advising between Bush and Pope. Is not state and church according to the Constitution to be seperate? Has Church and State EVER been seperate? No!

And finally why is the media controlled by government and corporate monarchy?
www.cia.gov `Operation Mockingbird'
Freedom of the press Ha!Ha!

The middle east is (6) parameters that perpetuate money, control, and corruption.
For (75) seventy-five years the western elite have been coming up with so called "peace initiatives' and some how we never experience any peace.
www.articbeacon.com Mr. Greg Szmanski wrote a article that I think the media should explore in all nations of the world.

He says in his article ` The Hidden Truth About The Pope's Middle East Crusade' there is (5) five controlling factors of the Middle-East. I added (1) one other.

(1) The vested interests of the Foreign Elite:
(2) Control of Middle- East oil: (Read Edwin Black- `Internal Combustion')
(3) Weapons Sales:
(4) Mainstream Media: (Six (6) monarchs control all information)
(5) Corrupt national leadership both sides:

(6) Drugs (illegal and Legal)

But do we see any stories from the media? No! And what about the Puppet Masters.
CFR, Trilateral-Commision, Federal Reserve, IMF, World Bank, WTO, UN:

We will not get the truth from media, Congress only independent sources will set us free from their number one tool for control-FEAR.

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The US admin. needs to abdicate the Green Zone immediately
Posted by: Gaubladt on Dec 17, 2006 3:50 PM   
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It's indefensible. And, giving it to the Iraqi government will bolster their prestige. That's a good thing.
It's better to do it now than to get stuck there defending our personnel from Iranian rockets like the ones that rained on Israel during the invasion of Lebanon. That's a bad thing.

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Are You Joking...
Posted by: bob t on Dec 19, 2006 9:31 AM   
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Bush will not likely negotiate unless he is threatened by the Dems, as in impeachment. Bush will work to protect his legacy (aka CYA) via endless denial of reality by his ever so small Texass mentality. But then in that state and in his family he might be a mental giant. Ok, so I'm being a bit snarky because I am so totally disgusted with what he has done for himself and the Repub party of corruption and the fact that no one can stop him from two more years of the same. After which we will get more of the same from McCain and Jeb Bush another mental giant from the Bush family. This family and the repub party must hate America because they are working hard to destroy it and largely succeeding at it. They ALLOW TERRORISM from without and create same from within.

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For the Bush Adm., Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Dec 20, 2006 3:14 PM   
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Trying to get the Bushies to negoiate is akin to selling lumber to the Finns. These thugs are so mean you can't borrow snow from them in Winter if you're building a snowman. Their callous approach to sit down with the Iraqi "resistance" has fallen on deaf ears. Meanwhile the carnage goes unchecked and gets worse as each day passes.
Our leaders have no tact, no comapssion, no heart for human life. For them, life is nasty, brutish and harsh. Well, when these guys die, who will mourn for them?

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