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More Dangerous Than Smoking? Death by Soda
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We are a country of overweight people. Americans are tipping the scales in record numbers, with approximately 130 million who are presently considered overweight or obese. Perhaps most alarmingly of all, half of all women aged 20 to 39 in the United States are included in these figures. Many factors contribute to the growing problem, from our sedentary lifestyles to our overindulgence in high-energy, low nutritional foods. Dealing with the crisis is not easy. The marketing of energy dense foods is a multi-billion dollar industry, and manufacturers of such products go to great lengths to ensure their shareholders continue to profit from the sales of nutrition-less foods.
Despite the barrage of marketing to the contrary, sales pitches, and misinformation, consumption of soda has been directly linked to both obesity as well as type 2 diabetes. Soft drinks are packed full of sugar and refined carbohydrates, both of which are undeniably correlated to these factors. Type 2 diabetes is also associated with a poor diet that is laden with high-fructose corn syrup and low in fiber. Research indicates that soft drinks largely contribute to this growing epidemic, with high school and college age kids being the most likely to consume sugar laden soda beverages on a regular basis.
Sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are bad news, according to health experts, because they contribute to the obesity epidemic by providing empty calories, that is, calories that provide little or no nutritional value. Meaning, a person who slugs down too much soda is swallowing more than their body can handle. And this added energy isn't healthy energy -- it's energy derived from high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS), i.e., highly refined sugar that has been chemically processed in order to excite your taste buds. It has been argued that too much HFCS in one's diet may offset the intake of solid food, yet does not produce a positive caloric balance. In turn, this over-consumption contributes to the slow development of obesity because the person is consuming more calories than their body can burn. And these days, people are drinking more soda than ever before. Perhaps not surprisingly, as portion sizes for soft drinks have increased, so have American waistlines.
Too put this dangerous pattern in to perspective, one regular 12-ounce can of sugar-sweetened soda contains approximately 150 calories with close to 50 grams of sugar. If this is added to the typical American diet, one can of soda per day could lead to a weight gain of 15 pounds in one year. Currently the consumption of soda accounts for about 8%-9% of total energy among children and adults, and studies suggest that it is most certainly having a negative effect on the people who consume it in such vast quantities. So what's so wrong with being overweight then, you ask? So what if soda has been linked to causing obesity? What's wrong with that? Well, plenty say scores of medical, health and public nutrition experts.
For starters, obesity increases the risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease, bowel cancer as well as high blood pressure. Type 2 diabetes alone can contribute to cardiovascular disease, retinopathy (blindness), neuropathy (nerve damage), nephropathy (kidney damage), and other health complications. So if type 2 diabetes is highly associated with individuals who are obese, and obesity is linked to SSBs, then type 2 diabetes is highly associated with the consumption of SSBs because the consumption of SSBs is so highly associated with causing obesity. In short, if one consumes SSBs on a regular basis, they are more at risk of developing type 2 diabetes, which itself may cause many ailments. That's why being overweight is not a good thing for one's health. And that's why drinking copious amounts of sugar-sweetened beverages contributes to poor wellbeing byway of obesity and type 2 diabetes.
On top of causing one to gain unhealthy weight and spurring type 2 diabetes, SSBs may also contribute to the loss of bone density, which may cause one to be more susceptible to bone fractures. It has been argued that low bone density may be a result of high levels of phosphate, which is found in elevated amounts in sugar-sweetened cola. Such large amounts of phosphate may alter the calcium-phosphorus ratio in people whose bodies are still developing, or people who are most likely to consume SSBs, and consequently this can have a toxic effect on their bone development. If a growing individual has a low calcium intake it could jeopardize bone mass, which may then contribute to hip fractures and other bone related disorders later in life. Drinking a lot of SSBs while your body develops could have lasting, deadly effects on your health. So while it is clear that soda isn't good for you, it is also obvious that soda is downright bad for your health. It can make you overweight, suck the calcium out of your bones, and increase risk of type 2 diabetes, a leading cause of blindness. But that's not the kind of news the profiteers of big soda would ever want you to hear.
The marketing firms that barrage consumers with ads for their mouth-watering soft drinks hope to encourage you to drink more of their harmful products, not less of them. Indeed they have a financial incentive to do so. Their annual revenues are billions of dollars. To protect their interests, as Prof. Marion Nestle of NYU notes, the soda industry shells out tons of money to convince people to consume their products in mass quantities. In the late 1990s, Coca-Cola spent about $1.6 billion dollars in global marketing, with over $850 million spent in the United States alone. With that kind of lavish spending, it is little wonder why Coca-Cola is such a household name. Clearly, those who advocate for cutting down on the consumption of SSBs because of their negative health impacts are up against a very well financed opposition -- not unlike the anti-smoking activists who take on the shenanigans and deceit of Big Tobacco.
Nevertheless, Coca-Cola, like its competitors, is extremely savvy. They have inundated schools with their products. As Michele Simon, the author of Appetite for Profit, writes, "A 2003 government survey showed that 43 percent of elementary schools, 74 percent of middle schools, and 98 percent of high schools sold food through vending machines, snack bars, or other venues outside the federally supported school meal programs ... With public schools so desperate for funding, districts are lured into signing exclusive contracts (also known as "pouring rights" deals) with major beverage companies -- mainly Coca-Cola and PepsiCo".
In other words, these multinational corporations give millions of dollars to schools so that their districts and vending machines exclusively carry their goods. In reality, however, it comes down to one big clever marketing ploy: In the end these big corporations have hooked kids on their products while fooling people into believing they are virtuous corporate citizens because they support education.
Fortunately there is a growing movement across the country to ban sodas from schools. Indeed the feisty Killer Coke campaign, which focuses on the company's labor abuses and not Coke's negative health implications, has been successful is banning the product from over 10 major universities in the United States. But it would be wise to not just focus on the company's alleged murders in Colombia, and instead broaden the struggle against the soda industry by pointing out their complicity in the obesity epidemic worldwide.
Because death truly is the "real thing."
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Don't miss this one.
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Posted by: xbj on Dec 27, 2006 3:26 AM
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No less than Oberfuhrer Rumsfeld's little gift to the world, nutrasweet, MAKES AN EXCELLENT ANT POISON. AS IF the Torturer didn't know...
Splenda? Sugar that's been CHLORINATED... do a search on chloracne.
Back to saccharin? You'd have to drink bathtubs of the stuff to get cancer... but that doesn't get rid the phsophoric acid that eats your bones.
Tea? With Sweet & Low liquid, probably the best bet.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 27, 2006 4:36 AM
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P.S.: A good medicine that would nip Corporate America in the bud is likely to be banned by the DEA whereas common poisons such as soda, tobacco, alcohol, viagra, happy meals, etc ... will not be restricted whatsoever. After all, the corporate media wants its fucked up "economy" to stay until eternity whether we like it or not.
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Posted by: paschn on Dec 27, 2006 4:47 AM
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If you think the corporate media is responsible for the well informed folks that responded here, think again!
WE MUST fight to not only keep the corporate cuckolds like McCain from giving it over to the same fate that Reagan sentenced our sources for information, ( jokingly referred to as Journalists), to but we need to PUSH for the same access to it that many "lesser" countries have been doing for years. Net access provided by municipalites.
And to that end, you might want to begin researching and EDUCATING your friends who think that doughy McCain is some kind of hero. Or sure as hell he'll slither into the whitehouse and make political prostitution a national past-time. Oops,..it already IS. But rest assured McCain et al will make it even worse, if that's possible.
A nation of sheep, led by a cartel of whores, controlled by big business. Welcome to the REAL Evil Empire.
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Posted by: ellie on Dec 27, 2006 4:56 AM
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store brand pop, 2 liter, $.59... water 2 liter, $1.18, milk $3.00 per gallon, juices $2.00 per liter and on up... tap water you say, well, they found benzine and PCB's in our local tap water a few years ago... would you drink benzine???
carb heavy food is satisfying and cheap... mac and cheese less then $1.00, head of lettuce $2.00 and up, not to mention such things as e coli runoff water from commercial livestock finishing pens contaminating organic produce fields, remember???
when sugar and carbs are cheaper then real food and you have $x.00 to feed your family, guess which one wins
rent in areas that have a single blade of grass are beyond the reach of over half of the american families so kids can't get out and run around like we all did when we were kids, so exercise is limited...
what this article is really saying from my read, is that the american people have had real food and a healthier lifestyle placed beyond the wallet... we can talk all we want about toxic foods, but for the vast majority of families, what are the options???
btw, notice that a huge amount of the fast food places are in 'low rent' areas??? a happy meal is about $3.00, can you feed a child a solid meal of salad, milk, veggies, a protein and a small carb for that kind of money??? we are talking a good $5.00 to just get the groceries IF there is a grocery store nearby you can walk to and I don't mean the local c-store that is forced to pay high wholesale prices because they are a corporate 'risk' to the wholesaler...
I can go on and on here...
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Posted by: Kossack on Dec 27, 2006 6:34 AM
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Knowing what I know about cooking and botany, I wouldn't consider putting soda in my body due to the putrid taste as much as to the lack of nutrition in the stuff. And while eating healthily does often require a "capital advance" (buying a pot and a jug of olive oil to cook your lentils and brown rice -- or a ceramic mug and a mesh tea ball to make your tea, for example), at the end of the day it is more cost-effective than eating poorly and getting sick.
Healthy, Tasty, Economically Accessible Alternatives to Soda:
* Peppermint-spearmint-ginger tea. Helps with heartburn, motion sickness, and morning sickness. With a touch of honey or no sweetener at all.
* Raspberry leaf, fennel, blessed thistle, with citrus and honey to taste. Rich in phytoestrogens, especially good for women.
* Anise, fenugreek, cumin, fennel, red clover, with citrus and honey to taste. Very rich in phytoestrogens -- good for teenage girls worried about looking feminine and grown-up (it makes your breasts a little bigger).
* Bay leaves, elderberries, bilberries, olive leaves, melissa, raspberry leaves, peppermint, rose hips, cumin, oregano, cardamom, ginger, cinnamon, cloves, and a pinch of licorice root powder, with loads of lime and a touch of honey. Helps with migraine/headaches, body aches, colds oncoming and arrived.
I know it can be hard to get what you need when you don't have money, but human beings are wiley and adapable creatures. Herbs are cheap and go on sale, water is free, and if you want to read fantastic books to put together your own alternatives to soda with these tools, you can ask your local library to order them. Most public and university libraries delegate ordering to a person or group of people -- and it's their job to listen to you declare your deep and abiding need for James Duke's *The Green Pharmacy* or Susan Weed's *Wise Woman Herbal for the Childbearing Year*.
And then there's always chocolate milk.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Dec 27, 2006 6:53 AM
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I am not going to even talk about the fact obesity has not been proven to cause diabetes, because it is clear from the article the author will not be capable of understanding cause and effect! (I am a college instructor, and some people just don't, won't, and can't ehxibit those analytical skills!) What I will say is that this article is hurting fat people more than soda. Its simplistic reasoning helps spread myths about obesity as a lifestyle problem. It's exaggeration of the alleged health problems of obesity add to things like employment discrimination. The overall tone of hysteria makes people want to drop weight quickly, which leads to risky weight loss methods, which is one of the real reasons the fat suffer ill health problems. The willingness by the left to
abandon critical thinking and exploit the stigma of obesity as a convenient way to draw attention to one's cause sickens me. It is no different than the Bush administration exploiting the cause of democracy for its unjust war on Iraq.
"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there would stilll be time."
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Posted by: davcrock on Dec 27, 2006 7:04 AM
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For most of my life I've been tall and skinny.
Why is this story on alternet????
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Posted by: richiedagger on Dec 27, 2006 7:19 AM
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I've been, for better or worse, drinking soda for my entire life. I didn't put on 15 pounds a year. I did, however, start putting on weight once I got out of school and started leading a more sedentary lifestyle.
"Super Size Me" is a pretty one-sided affair. Eat a regular sized meal anywhere and do nothing and you'll gain weight. There's been several other people who have tried an all McDonald's diet combined with exercise and ended up in the best health they've been in.
Really, it all boils down to self-responsibility. I drink soda and if it gives me diabetes twenty years down the line, guess who's fault that was? Not Pepsi Co.
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Posted by: talldean on Dec 27, 2006 7:28 AM
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The sweet taste is what triggers your insulin response, and the insulin spike is what stores the calories as fat. It either puts you at risk for diabetes (if you're drinking diet coke with no additional food), or it makes you fat (if you had a diet coke with dinner), as it causes your body to think it's getting even more calories, and to store too much of the food as fat.
Google search for "artificial sweetener insulin" should turn this one up.
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Posted by: melissa999 on Dec 27, 2006 7:49 AM
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I agree with previous comments that economic reality forces people to choose less nutritious food -- feeding children on $3 a meal -- I believe Jamie Oliver took on the challenge of feeding kids on the British lunch program and he was forced to go down to 1 pound or $2/kid -- and he also struggled to maintain any kind of nutritional value at that price. However, the limitations on a family outside the school might be less -- being frugal and learning about nutrition might make the difference. Also, plenty of wealthy people struggle with their weight, too.
No one is forced to smoke, drink, eat sugar or watch tv.
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Posted by: cold2touch on Dec 27, 2006 9:19 AM
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Apple juice is from Venus, Coke is from Mars, right?
So, just guzzle away f(r)iends.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 27, 2006 12:54 PM
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The solution is simple - don't eat processed foods and beverages. You want tea, get clean water and make your own tea - dont go and buy some 'ice tea' product that has more sugar in it then a can of coke. You want to eat potatoes, get some organically grown ones and bake them up. Sure it takes a little bit more time - but it will add years to your life.
The problem is fairly psychological as well - we live in a society that markets instant gratification; people are so addled by advertising based on psychological manipulation of wants and desires (sex sells in advertising) that they have a hard time getting off the consumer train.
P.S. These products all result in type 2 diabetes as you age because your body cannot handle that amount of processed sugar, and your sugar metablism ends up going haywire, with very bad results.
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As long as you votes democrap, that IS.
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Posted by: rwa on Dec 27, 2006 2:55 PM
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"Also on Monday, the American Academy of Pediatrics released a new position statement on the presence of soft drink machines in schools. It recommended that vending machines not be allowed in the cafeteria and that soft drinks not be sold as part of school lunch programs.
Their position paper drew a link between the wide availability of soft drinks and the fact that 15 per cent of American children aged 6 to 19 are overweight – triple the level recorded in 1980. It also noted that between 56 and 85 per cent of school-aged children drink at least a can of pop a day.
The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that schools offer children low-fat milk, unsweetened fruit juices and water instead of pop and high-sugar fruit drinks or sports drinks in vending machines and cafeterias."
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Posted by: drblack on Dec 27, 2006 9:51 PM
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Posted by: wisewebwoman on Dec 27, 2006 10:24 PM
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* Taking the drug more often or in larger amounts than intended.
* Unsuccessful attempts to quit; persistent desire, craving.
* Excessive time spent in drug seeking.
* Feeling intoxicated at inappropriate times, or feeling
withdrawal symptoms from a drug at such times.
* Giving up other things for it.
* Continued use, despite knowledge of harm to oneself and others.
* Marked tolerance in which the amount needed to satisfy
increases at first before leveling off.
* Characteristic withdrawal symptoms for particular drugs.
* Taking the drug to relieve or avoid withdrawal.
I speak from experience. I was ADDICTED to Diet Energy Mountain Dew ( a Coke product for the uninitiated and pure of heart). Had to withdraw slowly. (Headaches were suicidal). Don't touch any of those products, diet or otherwise. Water with lemon/lime/cranberry. YUM.
Also try and get the book "Sugar Blues" which will enlighten as to what the drug sugar does.
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Posted by: mmmoongoddess on Dec 28, 2006 5:55 AM
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Recent studies have proven that just one meal containing genetically modified foods will change the bacterial flora in your stomach - meaning that either the genetic promoters inserted into the DNA of the plant, or the antibiotic resistance gene also inserted into it, are taken in by the bacterial in your stomach and are changed!.
GMO producing corporations, such as Monsanto, say that processing destroys the DNA, but it ain't necessarily so. The study that showed alteration of stomach bacteria came from patients with ostomy bags whose contents could be sampled after ingesting a meal with GMOs.
For the past decade Monsanto, largely, and other GMO producers have been flooding the market in a ploy to make genetically modified plants so pervasive that 1) they control all seed stock, and 2) that seeds have been so contaminated by GMO pollen that they can then claim ownership. In addition, the U.S. population to a large extent are unwitting guinea pigs who are totally unaware that no long-term health studies have been done on these human creations.
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Posted by: gtash on Dec 28, 2006 5:59 AM
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Actually, I did try to do this and found that my selections were too limited to have a regular daily diet without also having a farmers market nearby, access to cane sugar or beet sugar, and no snack foods or pre-packaged foods at all.
I wonder not so much about colas as I do the effects of the prevalence of processed foods generally. I am certain Archer-Daniels-Midland and the Society of Industrial Chemists have a lot to say about the subject, but I seriously doubt if it is objective. Where is the independent research into a topic like this?
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I know AlerNet articles tend toward hyperbole and extremism, (which is just as ugly coming from the left as from the right,) but sometimes the authors go too far.
I'm not saying our diets (including soda) are not harmful, but the author does himself and the readers a disservice by stooping to such a low point. As an ex-smoker I can honestly say I'd rather drink a single soda than smoke a single cigarette. I, too, have watched "Supersize Me" and read Marion Nestle's "Food Politics," and both serve the public good more than this piece of trash.
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Posted by: brisa on Dec 28, 2006 8:18 AM
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Sugar soft drinks are especially damaging due to their habit forming formulation and phosphoric and carbonic acid content. It is no less than criminal that the corporations which produce these products are allowed to escape responsibility for the damage caused and cost incurred to correct those problems.
If the tobacco companies can be successfully held accountable, then soft drink manufacturers should be also. Of course, when corporate profits are the be all and end all, there is little hope for change.
Did I mention the sugar is bad? Eliminate foods rich in refined carbohydrates from your diet and live a much healthier and dental treatment free life.
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Posted by: Zwoman on Dec 28, 2006 9:59 AM
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As an aside, it was Searle pharmaceuticals that invented and pushed aspartame through the FDA as being safe, even though they knew it caused nerve damage. And the CEO of Searle at the time? None other than our old pal, Donald Rumsfeld!
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Posted by: williameon on Dec 28, 2006 11:37 AM
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Starving to death!
Their bodies are searching for something good to eat.
High Fructose Corn syrup and Hydrogenated oils are POISON.
Avoid at all cost.
Crappy, spoiled, Franken Poisons.
The corpirate faux food system is a HOAX!
Designed to keep the:
Hospitals filled with patients
Pumped full of pills!
What is
is
The system is terribly broken.
REBOOT!!!
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Posted by: Michael in CA on Dec 28, 2006 8:09 PM
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Informed and responsible parents can lower the chances that children will make harmful choices. Eliminating clearly harmful choices from places like schools, where children spend a great deal of time with peers, will lower the chances far more, when combined with informed and responsible parents. Indeed, such parents are required to get soda out of schools.
Regulations don't imply that parents have no role or responsibility. They do imply a recognition of the fact that companies peddle harmful substances from time to time, and sometimes, especially in the case of children, companies' efforts are over the line. Net harmful effect on society.
To the extent that the free market is allowed in schools, fatter kids with weaker bones are present in our schools. Yes, we as citizens have, and should have, the choice as to where the market holds sway. They increased choices and potentialities of healthy children far outweigh Coca-Cola's "freedom" to peddle and advertise in schools.
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Posted by: Shey on Dec 29, 2006 3:31 PM
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Think everything is about "discrimination against fat people"? Way to go, play right into the hands of the corporate poisoners who get filthy rich by creating an economy that makes it extremely difficult for the average person to afford a healthy diet, as opposed to a supersized greese-burger meal with all the soda refills you can get down. Think Diet Coke (or "diet" whatever) is the answer, because it's your personal addiction? There's already a great post earlier on this thread documenting the toxicity of artificial sweetners.
Personal responsibility? It's not easy & getting harder every day, an issue tied into all of the above, especially cost & availability of healthy food. The most effective thing we as citizens of this country can do, personal responsibility wise, is get off our asses & VOTE! Not for the candidate with name recognition, or the candidate belonging to the party you've always supported, but after doing research on the actual positions of the various candidates, on the issues that are important to you.
We Americans are killing ourselves in a thousand different ways, from fast food, refined sugar & toxic artificial sweetners, to toxic lawn products to make certain our yards live up to the standards promoted on TV commercials, (that is, those of us fortunate enough to have a lawn is this by-and-for-the -rich economy) to the toxic pharmaceudicals that promise you'll never have to suffer again, be it from that natural human condituion called depression, or the common cold, not to mention the inevitable heartburn caused from eating the above mentioned garbage.
And let's not forget the crimes against humanity committed all over the world by the Coca Cola company, there has been very little comment about that. And I don't doubt that Pepsi and the producers of all the generic brands are just as guilty, they just haven't been caught quite as red handedly .... yet. Because that is what multi-national corporations do. They exploit and pollute and silence protest with increasingly draconian means, while avoiding paying taxes that could help fix our economy. Because we in the U.S elect leaders that allow it to happen, or worse, actively support it. Maybe we don't deserve to survive, as a species. But I'd rather go down fighting for what's right & just, while we're still around.
For the record, my personal addiction is Diet Coke. Doesn't put on the pounds, but I've just named a dozen reasons I should stop drinking it. And addiction is not too strong a term, my efforts to give it up are proving to be as difficult as quiting cigarettes, twenty years ago. Just because an article sounds paranoid, doesn't mean the facts aren't accurate. Don't think sodas are addictive, sugared or diet? If you drink them every day, try stopping for just one week. As for myself, I'm hoping this article, plus the excellent comment on why artificial sweetners are just as toxic, will prod me into finally breaking the habit. Tea, anyone? No sweetners, please.
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give me a break.
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Don't miss this one.
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No less than Oberfuhrer Rumsfeld's little gift to the world, nutrasweet, MAKES AN EXCELLENT ANT POISON. AS IF the Torturer didn't know...
Splenda? Sugar that's been CHLORINATED... do a search on chloracne.
Back to saccharin? You'd have to drink bathtubs of the stuff to get cancer... but that doesn't get rid the phsophoric acid that eats your bones.
Tea? With Sweet & Low liquid, probably the best bet.
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P.S.: A good medicine that would nip Corporate America in the bud is likely to be banned by the DEA whereas common poisons such as soda, tobacco, alcohol, viagra, happy meals, etc ... will not be restricted whatsoever. After all, the corporate media wants its fucked up "economy" to stay until eternity whether we like it or not.
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If you think the corporate media is responsible for the well informed folks that responded here, think again!
WE MUST fight to not only keep the corporate cuckolds like McCain from giving it over to the same fate that Reagan sentenced our sources for information, ( jokingly referred to as Journalists), to but we need to PUSH for the same access to it that many "lesser" countries have been doing for years. Net access provided by municipalites.
And to that end, you might want to begin researching and EDUCATING your friends who think that doughy McCain is some kind of hero. Or sure as hell he'll slither into the whitehouse and make political prostitution a national past-time. Oops,..it already IS. But rest assured McCain et al will make it even worse, if that's possible.
A nation of sheep, led by a cartel of whores, controlled by big business. Welcome to the REAL Evil Empire.
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Posted by: ellie on Dec 27, 2006 4:56 AM
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store brand pop, 2 liter, $.59... water 2 liter, $1.18, milk $3.00 per gallon, juices $2.00 per liter and on up... tap water you say, well, they found benzine and PCB's in our local tap water a few years ago... would you drink benzine???
carb heavy food is satisfying and cheap... mac and cheese less then $1.00, head of lettuce $2.00 and up, not to mention such things as e coli runoff water from commercial livestock finishing pens contaminating organic produce fields, remember???
when sugar and carbs are cheaper then real food and you have $x.00 to feed your family, guess which one wins
rent in areas that have a single blade of grass are beyond the reach of over half of the american families so kids can't get out and run around like we all did when we were kids, so exercise is limited...
what this article is really saying from my read, is that the american people have had real food and a healthier lifestyle placed beyond the wallet... we can talk all we want about toxic foods, but for the vast majority of families, what are the options???
btw, notice that a huge amount of the fast food places are in 'low rent' areas??? a happy meal is about $3.00, can you feed a child a solid meal of salad, milk, veggies, a protein and a small carb for that kind of money??? we are talking a good $5.00 to just get the groceries IF there is a grocery store nearby you can walk to and I don't mean the local c-store that is forced to pay high wholesale prices because they are a corporate 'risk' to the wholesaler...
I can go on and on here...
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Posted by: Kossack on Dec 27, 2006 6:34 AM
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Knowing what I know about cooking and botany, I wouldn't consider putting soda in my body due to the putrid taste as much as to the lack of nutrition in the stuff. And while eating healthily does often require a "capital advance" (buying a pot and a jug of olive oil to cook your lentils and brown rice -- or a ceramic mug and a mesh tea ball to make your tea, for example), at the end of the day it is more cost-effective than eating poorly and getting sick.
Healthy, Tasty, Economically Accessible Alternatives to Soda:
* Peppermint-spearmint-ginger tea. Helps with heartburn, motion sickness, and morning sickness. With a touch of honey or no sweetener at all.
* Raspberry leaf, fennel, blessed thistle, with citrus and honey to taste. Rich in phytoestrogens, especially good for women.
* Anise, fenugreek, cumin, fennel, red clover, with citrus and honey to taste. Very rich in phytoestrogens -- good for teenage girls worried about looking feminine and grown-up (it makes your breasts a little bigger).
* Bay leaves, elderberries, bilberries, olive leaves, melissa, raspberry leaves, peppermint, rose hips, cumin, oregano, cardamom, ginger, cinnamon, cloves, and a pinch of licorice root powder, with loads of lime and a touch of honey. Helps with migraine/headaches, body aches, colds oncoming and arrived.
I know it can be hard to get what you need when you don't have money, but human beings are wiley and adapable creatures. Herbs are cheap and go on sale, water is free, and if you want to read fantastic books to put together your own alternatives to soda with these tools, you can ask your local library to order them. Most public and university libraries delegate ordering to a person or group of people -- and it's their job to listen to you declare your deep and abiding need for James Duke's *The Green Pharmacy* or Susan Weed's *Wise Woman Herbal for the Childbearing Year*.
And then there's always chocolate milk.
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I am not going to even talk about the fact obesity has not been proven to cause diabetes, because it is clear from the article the author will not be capable of understanding cause and effect! (I am a college instructor, and some people just don't, won't, and can't ehxibit those analytical skills!) What I will say is that this article is hurting fat people more than soda. Its simplistic reasoning helps spread myths about obesity as a lifestyle problem. It's exaggeration of the alleged health problems of obesity add to things like employment discrimination. The overall tone of hysteria makes people want to drop weight quickly, which leads to risky weight loss methods, which is one of the real reasons the fat suffer ill health problems. The willingness by the left to
abandon critical thinking and exploit the stigma of obesity as a convenient way to draw attention to one's cause sickens me. It is no different than the Bush administration exploiting the cause of democracy for its unjust war on Iraq.
"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there would stilll be time."
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For most of my life I've been tall and skinny.
Why is this story on alternet????
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Posted by: richiedagger on Dec 27, 2006 7:19 AM
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I've been, for better or worse, drinking soda for my entire life. I didn't put on 15 pounds a year. I did, however, start putting on weight once I got out of school and started leading a more sedentary lifestyle.
"Super Size Me" is a pretty one-sided affair. Eat a regular sized meal anywhere and do nothing and you'll gain weight. There's been several other people who have tried an all McDonald's diet combined with exercise and ended up in the best health they've been in.
Really, it all boils down to self-responsibility. I drink soda and if it gives me diabetes twenty years down the line, guess who's fault that was? Not Pepsi Co.
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The sweet taste is what triggers your insulin response, and the insulin spike is what stores the calories as fat. It either puts you at risk for diabetes (if you're drinking diet coke with no additional food), or it makes you fat (if you had a diet coke with dinner), as it causes your body to think it's getting even more calories, and to store too much of the food as fat.
Google search for "artificial sweetener insulin" should turn this one up.
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Posted by: melissa999 on Dec 27, 2006 7:49 AM
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I agree with previous comments that economic reality forces people to choose less nutritious food -- feeding children on $3 a meal -- I believe Jamie Oliver took on the challenge of feeding kids on the British lunch program and he was forced to go down to 1 pound or $2/kid -- and he also struggled to maintain any kind of nutritional value at that price. However, the limitations on a family outside the school might be less -- being frugal and learning about nutrition might make the difference. Also, plenty of wealthy people struggle with their weight, too.
No one is forced to smoke, drink, eat sugar or watch tv.
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Apple juice is from Venus, Coke is from Mars, right?
So, just guzzle away f(r)iends.
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The solution is simple - don't eat processed foods and beverages. You want tea, get clean water and make your own tea - dont go and buy some 'ice tea' product that has more sugar in it then a can of coke. You want to eat potatoes, get some organically grown ones and bake them up. Sure it takes a little bit more time - but it will add years to your life.
The problem is fairly psychological as well - we live in a society that markets instant gratification; people are so addled by advertising based on psychological manipulation of wants and desires (sex sells in advertising) that they have a hard time getting off the consumer train.
P.S. These products all result in type 2 diabetes as you age because your body cannot handle that amount of processed sugar, and your sugar metablism ends up going haywire, with very bad results.
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As long as you votes democrap, that IS.
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"Also on Monday, the American Academy of Pediatrics released a new position statement on the presence of soft drink machines in schools. It recommended that vending machines not be allowed in the cafeteria and that soft drinks not be sold as part of school lunch programs.
Their position paper drew a link between the wide availability of soft drinks and the fact that 15 per cent of American children aged 6 to 19 are overweight – triple the level recorded in 1980. It also noted that between 56 and 85 per cent of school-aged children drink at least a can of pop a day.
The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that schools offer children low-fat milk, unsweetened fruit juices and water instead of pop and high-sugar fruit drinks or sports drinks in vending machines and cafeterias."
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* Taking the drug more often or in larger amounts than intended.
* Unsuccessful attempts to quit; persistent desire, craving.
* Excessive time spent in drug seeking.
* Feeling intoxicated at inappropriate times, or feeling
withdrawal symptoms from a drug at such times.
* Giving up other things for it.
* Continued use, despite knowledge of harm to oneself and others.
* Marked tolerance in which the amount needed to satisfy
increases at first before leveling off.
* Characteristic withdrawal symptoms for particular drugs.
* Taking the drug to relieve or avoid withdrawal.
I speak from experience. I was ADDICTED to Diet Energy Mountain Dew ( a Coke product for the uninitiated and pure of heart). Had to withdraw slowly. (Headaches were suicidal). Don't touch any of those products, diet or otherwise. Water with lemon/lime/cranberry. YUM.
Also try and get the book "Sugar Blues" which will enlighten as to what the drug sugar does.
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Posted by: smartlady on Dec 27, 2006 11:39 PM
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Posted by: mmmoongoddess on Dec 28, 2006 5:55 AM
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Recent studies have proven that just one meal containing genetically modified foods will change the bacterial flora in your stomach - meaning that either the genetic promoters inserted into the DNA of the plant, or the antibiotic resistance gene also inserted into it, are taken in by the bacterial in your stomach and are changed!.
GMO producing corporations, such as Monsanto, say that processing destroys the DNA, but it ain't necessarily so. The study that showed alteration of stomach bacteria came from patients with ostomy bags whose contents could be sampled after ingesting a meal with GMOs.
For the past decade Monsanto, largely, and other GMO producers have been flooding the market in a ploy to make genetically modified plants so pervasive that 1) they control all seed stock, and 2) that seeds have been so contaminated by GMO pollen that they can then claim ownership. In addition, the U.S. population to a large extent are unwitting guinea pigs who are totally unaware that no long-term health studies have been done on these human creations.
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Posted by: gtash on Dec 28, 2006 5:59 AM
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Actually, I did try to do this and found that my selections were too limited to have a regular daily diet without also having a farmers market nearby, access to cane sugar or beet sugar, and no snack foods or pre-packaged foods at all.
I wonder not so much about colas as I do the effects of the prevalence of processed foods generally. I am certain Archer-Daniels-Midland and the Society of Industrial Chemists have a lot to say about the subject, but I seriously doubt if it is objective. Where is the independent research into a topic like this?
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Posted by: PT Alden on Dec 28, 2006 6:48 AM
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I know AlerNet articles tend toward hyperbole and extremism, (which is just as ugly coming from the left as from the right,) but sometimes the authors go too far.
I'm not saying our diets (including soda) are not harmful, but the author does himself and the readers a disservice by stooping to such a low point. As an ex-smoker I can honestly say I'd rather drink a single soda than smoke a single cigarette. I, too, have watched "Supersize Me" and read Marion Nestle's "Food Politics," and both serve the public good more than this piece of trash.
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Posted by: brisa on Dec 28, 2006 8:18 AM
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Sugar soft drinks are especially damaging due to their habit forming formulation and phosphoric and carbonic acid content. It is no less than criminal that the corporations which produce these products are allowed to escape responsibility for the damage caused and cost incurred to correct those problems.
If the tobacco companies can be successfully held accountable, then soft drink manufacturers should be also. Of course, when corporate profits are the be all and end all, there is little hope for change.
Did I mention the sugar is bad? Eliminate foods rich in refined carbohydrates from your diet and live a much healthier and dental treatment free life.
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Posted by: Zwoman on Dec 28, 2006 9:59 AM
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As an aside, it was Searle pharmaceuticals that invented and pushed aspartame through the FDA as being safe, even though they knew it caused nerve damage. And the CEO of Searle at the time? None other than our old pal, Donald Rumsfeld!
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Posted by: williameon on Dec 28, 2006 11:37 AM
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Starving to death!
Their bodies are searching for something good to eat.
High Fructose Corn syrup and Hydrogenated oils are POISON.
Avoid at all cost.
Crappy, spoiled, Franken Poisons.
The corpirate faux food system is a HOAX!
Designed to keep the:
Hospitals filled with patients
Pumped full of pills!
What is
is
The system is terribly broken.
REBOOT!!!
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Posted by: Michael in CA on Dec 28, 2006 8:09 PM
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Informed and responsible parents can lower the chances that children will make harmful choices. Eliminating clearly harmful choices from places like schools, where children spend a great deal of time with peers, will lower the chances far more, when combined with informed and responsible parents. Indeed, such parents are required to get soda out of schools.
Regulations don't imply that parents have no role or responsibility. They do imply a recognition of the fact that companies peddle harmful substances from time to time, and sometimes, especially in the case of children, companies' efforts are over the line. Net harmful effect on society.
To the extent that the free market is allowed in schools, fatter kids with weaker bones are present in our schools. Yes, we as citizens have, and should have, the choice as to where the market holds sway. They increased choices and potentialities of healthy children far outweigh Coca-Cola's "freedom" to peddle and advertise in schools.
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Posted by: Shey on Dec 29, 2006 3:31 PM
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Think everything is about "discrimination against fat people"? Way to go, play right into the hands of the corporate poisoners who get filthy rich by creating an economy that makes it extremely difficult for the average person to afford a healthy diet, as opposed to a supersized greese-burger meal with all the soda refills you can get down. Think Diet Coke (or "diet" whatever) is the answer, because it's your personal addiction? There's already a great post earlier on this thread documenting the toxicity of artificial sweetners.
Personal responsibility? It's not easy & getting harder every day, an issue tied into all of the above, especially cost & availability of healthy food. The most effective thing we as citizens of this country can do, personal responsibility wise, is get off our asses & VOTE! Not for the candidate with name recognition, or the candidate belonging to the party you've always supported, but after doing research on the actual positions of the various candidates, on the issues that are important to you.
We Americans are killing ourselves in a thousand different ways, from fast food, refined sugar & toxic artificial sweetners, to toxic lawn products to make certain our yards live up to the standards promoted on TV commercials, (that is, those of us fortunate enough to have a lawn is this by-and-for-the -rich economy) to the toxic pharmaceudicals that promise you'll never have to suffer again, be it from that natural human condituion called depression, or the common cold, not to mention the inevitable heartburn caused from eating the above mentioned garbage.
And let's not forget the crimes against humanity committed all over the world by the Coca Cola company, there has been very little comment about that. And I don't doubt that Pepsi and the producers of all the generic brands are just as guilty, they just haven't been caught quite as red handedly .... yet. Because that is what multi-national corporations do. They exploit and pollute and silence protest with increasingly draconian means, while avoiding paying taxes that could help fix our economy. Because we in the U.S elect leaders that allow it to happen, or worse, actively support it. Maybe we don't deserve to survive, as a species. But I'd rather go down fighting for what's right & just, while we're still around.
For the record, my personal addiction is Diet Coke. Doesn't put on the pounds, but I've just named a dozen reasons I should stop drinking it. And addiction is not too strong a term, my efforts to give it up are proving to be as difficult as quiting cigarettes, twenty years ago. Just because an article sounds paranoid, doesn't mean the facts aren't accurate. Don't think sodas are addictive, sugared or diet? If you drink them every day, try stopping for just one week. As for myself, I'm hoping this article, plus the excellent comment on why artificial sweetners are just as toxic, will prod me into finally breaking the habit. Tea, anyone? No sweetners, please.
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Posted by: tke919 on Jan 3, 2007 6:39 AM
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Posted by: Bev on Jan 31, 2007 7:21 AM
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give me a break.
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