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The U.S. and China: Is a Trade War Coming?

By Danny Schechter, AlterNet. Posted December 13, 2006.


China may be violating trade agreements, but the savings-poor U.S. lacks the power to do anything about it.

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Who has real power over U.S. decision-making?

If you think it is the White House, or even the Congress, think again. There has been a power shift underway for years and, believe it our not, our future and fortune rest in the hands of bureaucrats on the other side of the world. Sorry folks, but our red, white and blue economy is afloat today because of help from members of the Politburo of the Chinese Communist Party.

Yes, the Red Menace that we spent so many years fearing as a military threat now represents a far more serious economic threat. Mao must be turning in his grave with the news that no less than six U.S. Cabinet Ministers are on their way this week to the Middle Kingdom to beseech, beg, lobby and try to persuade the new mandarins not to sell off their vast reservoir of dollars.

There's an old saying that a person can be in trouble when he owes a bank $100. But if he owes $l00 million, the bank could be in trouble. We owe China billions but they realize that collapse of American capitalism -- once their revolutionary goal -- could also trigger a collapse of Chinese “communism.” That's how mutually intertwined we have become, and how complicit we are with a government which the Committee to Protect Journalists says now jails more journalists than any other.

The New York Times reports on the big trip later this week that will bring Treasury Secretary and company on their ballyhooed 'excellent adventure' to Beijing. Yet it doesn't look like much will happen.

“As Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. prepares for his passage to China with six Cabinet members and the chairman of the Federal Reserve,” reports the New York Times, “pressure is mounting on him to produce results or face a wave of protectionist measures in the new Congress next year.

“Mr. Paulson conferred this week with business leaders urging him to bring about changes in China's economic practices, particularly its regulated economy, manipulation of currency levels to spur exports and its failure to crack down on piracy of software, pharmaceuticals and other items.

At the same time, Mr. Paulson 's aides were also conferring with Chinese representatives preparing for his Dec. 13-15 trip. Both sides cautioned not to expect breakthroughs on the big issues, in part because the Chinese cannot be seen as kowtowing to American pressure.”

So we will hear a lot of rhetoric in the days to come about China's failures to honor agreements and violations of trade regimes. They will all be true -- but beside the point. Who has the power to bring China into line? We don't. We are as much of a paper tiger in Beijing as we are in Baghdad.

The Financial Times reports that “Pascal Lamy, director general of the World Trade Organization, said in a recent interview: 'There are constituencies and vested interests. You can't deal with the Chinese by banging on the table, going to the balcony and saying, 'This is what I want.' ”

What's really going on? It looks like this could be the opening stages of a new war, a trade war, revolving in part around the shrinking power of the dollar.

And that war could do more damage to the United States than the defeat in Iraq.

Already, as I have reported, the Treasury Department has opened a global crisis management center that sounds very much like an economic war room. It is headed by none other than Jim Wilkinson, the GOP info warrior who ran the Coalition Media Center during the opening days of the Iraq War, when great victories were all we read about in the news.


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Danny Schechter writes a blog for MediaChannel.org. He is the author of "Embedded: Weapons of Mass Deception: How the Media Failed to Cover the War on Iraq" (Prometheus).

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Paper Economy On Fire
Posted by: edith on Dec 13, 2006 1:03 AM   
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The US Welfare State floats on a sea of worthless paper. Mortgages, medicare payments, defense spending. US employment depends on a military industrial complex, a health care monopoly of HMO's and hosptials addicted to Medicare and federal medical school subsidies. Federal spending is spending borrowed dollars that keep the economy is a state of slow expansion but low per capita growth in income and productivity. Pull the foreign creditor plug and you have 1929+. Oh yes, and then the costs of climate change sweep over this bankrupt land.

And What does America make besides farm products and military supplies? Not much. Our economy is based on spending, not savings or exports. Consumer spending for the latest MP3 and PCS gadgets played with by millions of semi-literates of all ethnic groups "graduating" US high schools, essentially inferior to productive Asian, Indian, Pakistani or even Brazilian youth with skills.

The US is headed for a fall. The Dems will probably inherit this mess. How are they going to finance universal health care or meet demands for health and retirement benefits for baby boomers? And the housing market floating on a sea of balloon mortgages and refinanced principal! All those immigrants who will find America is not the land of opportunity! There go the Mexican and Central American economies and there go the governments of those corrupt nations.

the Chinese are Marxist sellouts, but Mao's dream of a collapsing America and world capitalist economy may yet happen soon by Chinese decisions not to support the dollar.

When the Iraqi and Saudi regimes decide to switch to Euros that's when you'll know America (and Israel) are finished.

This crash of US living standards could trigger the fascism domestically that many here have seem signs of by the Bush regime. Take away credit and homes from Americans and you are looking at social chaos that a police state would have to control.

Is Democracy realisitc if the economy collapses?

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» RE: Paper Economy On Fire Posted by: rsaxto
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Dumbos
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 13, 2006 1:39 AM   
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This is what we get from the binge-borrowing Dumbos in the White House and Congress: an economy soon to be ruined by debt created by America's greediest class of Dumbos in cooperation with the mass murder in Iraq whose cost is destroying both the Iraqi economy and ours. It will take two tasks to save America: total withdrawal of troops from Iraq and total cancellation of all the tax cuts for the super rich. Else we will become just another third world country with poverty soaring in every city and state. Bye bye American Dream and hello Chinese as our second language.

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Thanks for the launch pad, Danny Schechter
Posted by: eddie torres on Dec 13, 2006 1:51 AM   
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"In many quarters, the Euro looks like a better bet than the dollar."

Well, it sure does to Uncle Dick Cheney. He owns a boatload of Euros. Just enough, in fact, to emmigrate and set up shop in a tax-free golf haven like the Bahamas or Paraguay.

"Washington is actually undermining the dollar in hopes it will make our exports cheaper and thus ease the deficit."

True. The US will be exporting neo-cons by the score in 2007/2008. Will anyone be buying? Uncle Dick is talking to the Saudis.

"So if you didn't trust this Administration on the war, why should you trust them on economics?"

If you trust Wall Street instead, your money is already in mechanisms that adjust for the US administration's idiocy. If you have little or no net worth... well, have you considered converting your body's protein into a futures contract?

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WHAT IS A "U.S. Cabinet Minister"?
Posted by: charlieparisek on Dec 13, 2006 2:03 AM   
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I didn't know we had "cabinet ministers" in the US. Have I missed something?

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So who's in control of the oceans?
Posted by: Sojourner on Dec 13, 2006 4:38 AM   
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The global economy is an ocean that no one controls. However, nations and their currencies are like boat builders. Whose boat sails the oceans most successfully?

China needs customers as much as we need their credit. Imagine the social unrest there if there were massive unemployment.

The real issue is that the Third World sees that the Chinese boat works for underdeveloped nations. So we are going to see copies of the Chinese economy everywhere we look in the Third World. And there's a lot more of them than First Worlds.

Yes, the global economic competition is heating up. But it's the business of the future, Whitehead tells us, to be dangerous; and we can count on it always doing its job.

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Perspective
Posted by: laoma on Dec 13, 2006 4:51 AM   
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I can't help but believe that this is the beginning trickle of the soon-to-be gush of articles raising the spectre of the "Red Menace". It would help to keep things in perspective and avoid ignorant use of labels. Whatever happens to the US is fundamentally the fault of our politicians. Also, what goes around comes around. Most of the world has a much longer and clearer memory of US activities than Americans do. "As ye sow, so shall ye reap".

Also, a good history of China has yet to be written. To use such simplistic terms as "communist" and "Marxist" explain and add nothing, except add fuel to the smoldering, irrational fear/hatred that Americans have for those concepts.

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The Chinese will eat the USA alive.
Posted by: Ghoulman on Dec 13, 2006 5:31 AM   
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... and with a fraction of the military spending. The USA blew it's last load in Iraq and everyone watched it as if it were a blowjob on YouTube.

America is stuck in the 50s Cold War way of doing things (bomb the poor and steal thier oil/resources). This doesn't work anymore, yet all the people in power in the White House are Cold Warriors from the Nixon era.

Oh, and ALWAYS pay attention to the Olympics. Especially Beijing. It's a solid economic indicator. Always has been.

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» RE: The Chinese will eat the USA alive. Posted by: Conservasaurus
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It's not just what they already have
Posted by: Bic Pentameter on Dec 13, 2006 6:57 AM   
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Numerous foreign countries are sitting on stockpiles of US currency, and hesitant to unload it for fear that it might just tumble and lose value before they can cash in. The problem they face is that they can't continue to accumulate more and more waiting for the day that the flow will reverse. They can't afford to have their cash reserves held in limbo.

Meanwhile, cheap prices send US dollars flying out the door towards the jobs that preceeded the exodus. We are trading our heritage of wealth for department store goodies. I suppose people just starting out need stuff, but most of our spending hardly counts as necessities.

It's not likely, but what would happen if Beijing started shipping truckloads of dollars to Iran for oil? They are trying to get get us to be nicer to the Iranians - who are still on the rebound from US and British interference that lasted from WWI to 1979. But do you think there's any political future for a leader here that apologizes for that kind of stuff? When we cause untold suffering in the world, it is a moral good. Wins votes back home.

We are the greatest nation on earth - the greatest nation ever!

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The Media is Reporting, It's Just Americans are not Allowed to Watch
Posted by: paris on Dec 13, 2006 7:21 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbPetrK_6Lc

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Finally, an important economic article you can sink your teeth into
Posted by: MAD on Dec 13, 2006 9:29 AM   
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Today's anemic, almost terminal economy is what happens when profligate spending meets cheap liquidity. Despite what many think, the Chinese always had the advantage in this battle for economic supremacy. Their secret weapon? They could always count on good ol' fashion American conspicuous consumerism to give them a lift, even when the chips were down. After all, who consumes more junk per capita than us?

Americans are inclined to cite any number of scapegoats like the Fed and Greenspan, the pegged Yuan or a gutted manufacturing base. Although these are among the contributing factors, they ultimately fail to assign blame where blame is surely due: squarely on the shoulders of the American consumer.

This economic meltdown is dedicated to all the Americans who thought that 0% APR for the first 24 months meant buying a $45K F-350 and a snowmobile or two. It's dedicated to every American who makes $10.50/hour but believes that a $350K house is his god-given birthright. I'd like to dedicate it to everyone who figured, wrongly as it turns out, that you can spend your way out of an economic shellaking wrought from nearly a decade of "irrational exuberance" and the worst act of terrorism this country has ever known.

Greedy. If any one word sums up the collective US character more than that, it currently escapes me. If this "housing slump", a rather mild euphemism for what's unfolding at the moment, was anything less than a foregone conclusion to you, then there is a good chance that you're not only greedy, but pretty clueless. While many were salivating at the prospect of adding a second home to their portfolio, the average Chinese, Frenchman, Indian, Japanese, Chileno et al were busy socking away cash. While American shoppers were pissing away money borrowed against their vastly overvalued homes, the men and women producing the generally superfluous items Americans crave were living frugally and well within their means. For those who would like to point their bony finger at Greenspan, keep this in mind. No one put a gun to your head and made you finance homes, cars and vacations that were out of your reach just ten short years ago. America is going the way of Rome, falling victim to its own avarice, decadence and self-righteousness.

Here's the real kicker. The Chinese infuse the US with cheap money so we can do what with it? Turn around and return it to them as payment for cheaply manufactured goods we don't need to begin with. It's like handing over a piece of your economic viability with every single purchase.

Unfortunately, the mentally unstable in D.C. have determined that the only way to prop up the dollar is through a petro-war playing out in America's favorite sandbox. Unless it's tied to something of real value, like gold (wink, wink), then it really becomes nothing more than worthless scrip.

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» Absolutely Posted by: HeroesAll
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In any trade war, we lose
Posted by: pfm on Dec 13, 2006 11:15 AM   
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If the USA and China are indeed headed for a trade war, we'd lose, and the "smart money" in Vegas would give you fantastic odds if you think the USA emerges the winner. We are merely a paper tiger in so many respects. It is doubtful many of our students could find China on a map or the globe.

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A trade war won't end up like the Iraq war
Posted by: cinattra on Dec 13, 2006 12:20 PM   
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In a trade war between the U.S. and China the winners will be China's competitors. China is not the only country buying up dollars thus keeping their money pegged to the dollar. China's competitors are doing the same thing otherwise they will lose competitiveness to China.

Walmart and whoever else has factories in China will just move their business to the new cheap labor leader. China will not re-value their money beyond the capacity of their society and economy to absorb it and the capacity of the U.S. to pay the money back because the blow to China will have large repercussions that they may not be able to recover from in my opinion. In that case they will start using that trillion dollar surplus.

Americans will begin spending less and the Europeans will not make up for our shortfall in spending, but it won't be enough to send us over the edge.

I worry more about the cost of energy and transportation because we will feel the effects of increases in those areas a lot sooner than factories moving from China to Vietnam.

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The American people are slowly awakening to
Posted by: FascismIsUnpatriotic on Dec 13, 2006 12:44 PM   
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this new feudalism, even though the plutocracy-owned news media have worked hard to keep the scandal hidden.
Millions of workers have lost their jobs due to NAFTA and outsourcing. Meanwhile, they have completely overlooked the purchasing power they have. The sensible deployment of that power is through the strategy of boycott. To launch a consumer boycott movement requires sustained, broad-based
commitment and a carefully planned general strategy. The globalist juggernaut has turned the US into a two class society of the obscenely wealthy and the struggling workers. The federal government spends more taxpayers' dollars to subsidize weapons sales by U.S. arms merchants than it pays for federal support of elementary and secondary education. If that's not what we want for our children, then we need to stop it.

Objectives:

# Trash the NAFTA and World Trade Organization agreements that have allowed American jobs to be taken to low-labor-cost countries
# Demand genuine election reform - making it impossible for corporations and private interests to buy politicians
# Demand legislation that would make it possible to have more than two parties

How?
* Organize a nation-wide enlistment of consumers
* Support repeal NAFTA candidates in 2008
* Set up criteria to determine which companies should be
-boycotted
-patronized
* Recognize and include Green concerns for ecological wisdom and social justice.

Americans have experienced years of job loss, ecological devastation, and increased poverty due to NAFTA. How bad does the plight of the workers have to get before they realize they're being destroyed and fight for their very
lives? Remember, corporations only have as much economic power as consumers give them. A sustained boycott movement would be a good first step.

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Citizens of North American Union
Posted by: mite on Dec 13, 2006 12:52 PM   
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www.cfr.org www.spp.gov will explain this thing called the 'DOLLAR.' (Amero) a new currency:

Only one thing will fix this BS, JFK signed executive order 11110 to suspend the Federal Reserve and we all know what happened to him. But at least he made an effort, unlike our Congress and Presidents of treason. Article 1 Sec: 8 says it all, look it up people and try reding your U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights instead of watching the IDIOT BOX.

Your Banks, money, taxes and Senators are illegal and acts of treason. The CFR, Trilateral-Commission, control our government no us people. Quit living in denial and making more debt for our children, grandchildren. We are in debt by more then $12 Trillion with China, Japan, Great Britian, and SE Asia holding it. Our Illegal Income tax only pays a percentage of interest on our debt.

www.givemeliberty.org www.originalintent.org

www.thelawthatneverwas.com www.newswithviews.com
www.devvy.com

If you study history you find that China, India, and Middle-East are over 5000 years old compared to Europe, and North America. These Bilderbergs, CFR, TriLater-Commission tyrants think their so smart-Ha!Ha! We gave our country away in 1913 with the passage of the Fedearal Reserve Act and allowed these individuals to control us with the passage of the IRS 6 months later.

We better wake up citizens of this Republic or we'll all be in the concentration camps.

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Every time you buy a product 'Made in China' you are empowering a brutal regime
Posted by: Deport The Minutemen on Dec 13, 2006 3:32 PM   
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The NYPD busted Chinese officials involved in the sale of the organs of executed prisoners for transplantation.
China tops the world with more than 2,300 executions per year. Most of the executions take place in front of crowds inside sports stadiums or public squares in the most preferred way -- 'a bullet to the back of the head,' because it does not contaminate the prisoners' organs with poisonous chemicals, as lethal injections do.
Take a pledge that you will not buy, use or sell any product 'Made In China'.

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» Don't believe the hype Posted by: Deport The Minutemen
» exactly, Posted by: denk
» tsk tsk tsk Posted by: denk
It's part our fault
Posted by: Krain61 on Dec 13, 2006 7:51 PM   
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We as American's started buying there goods over 20 plus years ago..We are part of the cause..But the real blame lays on our leaders shoulders when they gave up coining our own money.We pay over 285 billion a year or is that a day..Da I don't think it makes no difference any more but any how we pay that to the fed{ Federal Reserve} who happens to be 12 different banks..Mostly New York and London..So I still believe this country is owned by the british contrary to poplar beliefe..If we want to help this and stablize it all we have to do is stop buying things from over sea's..Look at your lable and say do I really need this now..Hea they had to suffer during WW11 with rations and the like..Now it's our turn but America couldn't and wouldn't stick together..We couldn't all stop buying gas for a day or two.That alone would hurt the big oil and bring down prices to a savings of more than you would of lost in a day of working..We need to just take a brake from Christmas and feel the real spirit of it with out all the glitz..Hurt the big companies that gave our jobs away..There is not enough ballzy people in this country
Marry Christmas
Maybe someday but at that point will be speaking a different langauge..
So what langauge are you thinking it will be..I don't wanna learn chiniese..
I'm not that good with what I was born with lol

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Blame the 'Progressive' movement.
Posted by: gellero on Dec 13, 2006 11:35 PM   
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Funny how the people on this board keep demanding 'free' nationalized medical care, 'free' increased federal aid to schools, 'free' social welfare and education for undocumented (aka illegal) immigrants (aka aliens) 'free' or subsidized mass transit etc., etc., ad nauseaum.
Go read the US Constitution sometime and see what it says about money. We haven't had real money in this country since the 70's when our coins were changed to base metals. Dollars used to say 'silver certificate' until the 70's. They also said 'the US Government Promises to Pay the Bearer on Demand' .......
Most of you have zero knowlege of what you've done to our money through social welfare demands etc.
'Free' medical care for all???? As the song goes......Dream On......
And outsourcing of your jobs and industries??? 100% Democratic Party ideology and initiative. Read your history instead of AlterNet.

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Some questions
Posted by: YogiBear on Dec 13, 2006 11:42 PM   
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Is it possible for the country or American interests to start to buy back that debt from the Chinese and others? Would reducing the deficit help at all?

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