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An Exit Strategy for the War on Christmas

By Barbara Ehrenreich, AlterNet. Posted December 9, 2006.


Let's face it: Christmas is not the exclusive property of those who think God came to earth 2000 years ago as a baby in Bethlehem.

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As a dedicated secular humanist, I must regretfully acknowledge that the War on Christmas has not been going well. Some would use the word "quagmire," and urge a phased redeployment to other fronts, like Easter and Mardi Gras.

Others argue that we simply need more boots on the ground, and that our allies, such as the ACLU, have not been fielding sufficient troops. I say we have only ourselves to blame, and that -- however noble our intentions -- we haven't been putting up much of a fight.

Take me, for example. I had big plans for the season: I was going to spray paint the local church crèches with atheist graffiti, sue my town over the lights on Main Street, let termites loose on the mega-tree at Rockefeller Center, and start rumors about an E. Coli infestation of the nation's fruitcake supply.

But here it is, December already, and I've done nothing to rate a mention on Bill O'Reilly's show or even a mild rebuke from the Pope, who, apparently oblivious to the anti-Christmas threat, spent last week cozying up with Muslims in Turkey.

What's my excuse? Well, Christmas of course. There are those catalogues, which usually get recycled directly from the mail box, to study. Menus to plan. Should we do the Cuban-style roast pork or a re-run of the Thanksgiving turkey? Cards to buy and address: How will the pretty Virgin and baby go over with my Wiccan friends?

Then there's the annual fight over the tree: Can it be multi-colored and gaudy, as I prefer, or all-white, as certain puritanical in-laws insist? And toys, toys, toys. I spent yesterday searching for obscure members of the Dora the Explorer tribe: What's with this pre-Christmas shortage of Dora's monkey sidekick, Boots?

Let's face it: Christmas is not the exclusive property of those who think God came to earth 2000 years ago as a baby in Bethlehem. I caught the Christmas bug from my parents, who were militant atheists of the Richard Dawkins ilk.

I celebrated it with my first husband, the son of Jewish atheists. True, we tried Chanukah too one year, but it bombed with the kids. What's a little Chanukah gelt compared to a floor-full of presents?

My second husband, who had been inadvertently converted to atheism by the nuns at Catholic school, was the worst. We fought over whether to measure the extent of our excess by the volume of presents under the tree or their weight as determined by the bathroom scale.

How Christian is Christmas anyway? The tree and the wreathes descend from pagan, tree-worshipping, Druidism. The December date for the holiday probably comes from the Roman Saturnalia, a pre-existing blow-out featuring feasting and role-inversion (masters had to wait on slaves.)

Even if you fixate on Jesus, he was a pretty ecumenical guy -- a Jew who invented Christianity and is also much honored by Muslims. And who would be grinch-like enough not to welcome a baby whose mission was to bring world peace? Hell, I'm such a baby freak I think any baby, anywhere, any time, should be a cause for major celebration.

At the post office last week, where I was stocking up on stamps for the above-mentioned cards, I struggled over the seasonal options: Chanukah, Kwanza, Eid (the post-Ramadan Muslim holiday), or a traditional Virgin and Child. "You should get a sheet of each," the postmistress helpfully suggested, "More and more people are doing that." So I did, and I now declare the war is over -- the War on Christmas anyway.

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Barbara Ehrenreich is the author of 13 books, most recently "Bait and Switch: The (Futile) Pursuit of the American Dream."

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Christmas is Christian? Ha
Posted by: ryazbeck on Dec 9, 2006 1:13 AM   
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I love this article. I was just talking with my roommate about how people still think Christmas is somehow Christian. It doesn't take a scientist to figure out that its obvious its not. And I know gift giving is superficial and wasteful, as much as I like giving and receiving gifts, but I really do enjoy it because no matter what the family will make sure they get together. Some may say its lousy that a family doesn't make more effort to get together, but I disagree. I'm extremely busy, as well as everyone else I know, family and non-family, so I can see why it might take some planning to be together, especially all at once. Essentially this is really what I cherish about things like Christmas, and Christmas is the highlight of all the holidays to me, and always has been for this reason.

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Christmas IS NOT Christian
Posted by: NoPCZone on Dec 9, 2006 1:16 AM   
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I should know, as I am a Christian. There is no instance in the writings held as sacred by Christians that identifies the 25th of December as the date of the Advent of the Messiah. No particular date is given. Further, nowhere in these writings is it ordered or even recommended that Christians celebrate the event with any festival or ceremony.

It is widely held that sometime after the acceptance of Christianity by the Roman Empire, dates were set that closely followed established ritual festivals to help ease the acceptance of the new religion. This is the official church that continued to punish Christ followers that did not accept the authority of the new government Church. A remnant of the church established by the Roman Government is today's Roman Catholic Church.

I would remind everyone that not all Christian denominations accept, or have ever accepted the teaching and authority of the Roman Church, or the Pope that heads it. This is the Church that conducted the Crusades, that persecuted Galileo, that conducted the Spanish Inquisition, that persecuted Luther, that persecuted the Huguenots, that hunted down and punished those seeking nothing more than to translate the Bible into the native tongues of followers, and the subjection of Native American peoples and Africans as slaves in the colonies of Spain and Portugal.

The Roman Church is also the one that stood by and acceded, by silence or consent, to the systemic discrimination, Pogroms and Holocaust perpetrated against the Jewish people, Gypsies, Wiccans and others. Not all Christians are from that faith tradition and do not claim it or defend it.

Christmas is a tradition of the Roman Catholic Church that passed through the Reformed Churches into broad practice among Christians. It has been thoroughly secularized, commercialized and stripped of whatever significance it ever had. What is left is an orgy of consumption, greed and selfishness under the disguise of a high holy day of faith. No thank you.

What most celebrate is in no way connected with the message of the Advent which, for those who believe, is that the supreme being of existence came to share the human experience and to bring a message of hope, mercy and peace to all people. That is the polar opposite of the commercial orgy that goes on these days.

If one wishes to honor the ministry of Jesus one should follow His teachings and example. Help those less fortunate, love all people-even those who are unlovable, extend grace to your enemies, feed the hungry, house the homeless, forgive the wrongs done you by others and seek to live a peaceful life. Jesus said that one could tell those who followed Him in that they loved one another.

The world could use more than a little charity, grace, forgiveness, mercy and peace and it starts with the individual. Celebrating the life and ministry of Jesus Christ does not involve the buying of one single thing. Celebrating that Advent doesn't involve trees, greed or shopping and he meant for His followers to be so every day. He was tougher on hypocrisy than he was anything else.

Instead of protesting the secularization of Christmas, Christ followers should be asking why is Jesus' name associated with the orgy of greed that is Christmas these days for most people. I vote to remove the name associating the religion from the holdiay.

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» And the Puritans outlawed Xmas, of course! Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
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Yet another viewpoint
Posted by: HeroesAll on Dec 9, 2006 3:18 AM   
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I really liked this article, with its satirical tone. It shows just how stupid the "War on Christmas" fuss is. And I'm with the previous two comments, that Christmas gives us time to get together, and should remind us of the fact that we need to be better people to each other.

But there's another justification for the date: it's the winter solstice, in the northern hemisphere at least. The winter solstice was celebrated, or marked at least, in some fashion by just about every group of humans, because it was highly significant to any society that grew food (which was pretty much everybody), or tended animals that needed plants.

The early Christian church co-opted this date in an effort to subsume the pagans, and in time it became solely related to Christians. Note that I say the Christian church, and not Christians: the earliest Christians, the Gnostics, were non-hierarchical, and were persecuted by the church as much as everyone else.

Apropos of the winter solstice derivation, that makes Christmas down under pretty funny. Yesterday and today the temperature got up to 41 C here (that's 106 F), which is way too hot for this kitty. But shops everywhere have sparkly Chrissy decorations, there's a big pretendy fir tree in Victoria Square, and snow-based decorations abound. Lordy, if we had any snow here it would evaporate before hitting the ground, and we haven't even had any rain for weeks (yes, it's a drought. Global warming, anyone?).

Dashing through the sand
In a one-emu open sleigh
Over dunes we go
Panting all the way


(Note to doubters: the Todd River Regatta, the only dry-river regatta in the world, supposedly once had entrants driving emu-towed sulkies (google it!). The regatta was cancelled once because the river flooded. Welcome to Australia).

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love
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 9, 2006 3:35 AM   
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I love Ehrenreich's breakthrough into comedy writing. What a great sec hum she is! Can there be a better person than her?

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Stay the course!
Posted by: jules_siegel on Dec 9, 2006 4:03 AM   
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What kind of a traitor are you, Barbara? How you can you do this to us? It's just terrible.

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The Catholic School Experience
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Dec 9, 2006 4:55 AM   
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"My second husband, who had been inadvertently converted to atheism by the nuns at Catholic school"

great article.. My wife and I were just discussing the "teaching" methods of the nun's at our respective Catholic schols.. they could throw a book and hit your head from 20 feet away, then yell, "I'll get this into your head one way or the other"!!! Amazing how similar they were..

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Gotta stand up for the nuns
Posted by: rbohan on Dec 9, 2006 5:54 AM   
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OK, I know it's routine to dis the nuns but I'm gonna stand up for them. All the ones I've known, at least. I went to a small (very small) Catholic school in SC in the early '60's. Our sisters were some of the kindest, most loving folks I've known in my 53 years. All of 'em had accents from up north (except Sister Benedicta from Korea, who was my favorite teacher) but they all loved us small-town, Southern clodhoppers. And the sisters at St. Joan's here in Chagrin Falls, OH are just as wonderful...and liberal to boot.

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» RE: Gotta stand up for the nuns Posted by: Lincoln fan
Otto
Posted by: otto on Dec 9, 2006 6:09 AM   
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As another OLD R.C. and formerly active priest, I really liked the article too. I like Barbara's technique of taking something profound and dealing with it in a light and humorous way, but still saying something very significant. An atheist friend of mine (who died a couple of years ago) and I used to work on social-political issues together while we needled each other on our disagreements; I loved the guy and wish more religious people had his dedication to others. I think Barbara's technique is a little like Fr. Richard Rohr's (Center for Action and Contemplation in N.M.) ideas of preaching by story-telling, recognizing the power of myth in what you say and do.

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Excellent Article
Posted by: wawa on Dec 9, 2006 6:51 AM   
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As a progressive Christian I am in SOLIDARITY with Barbara but add the "war" on Christmas should be a "war" on the gluttonous consumerism and stuffing ones face!

JC was all about the sacredness of ALL life and how God favored the poor and oppressed.

Most esp. at this time of year,
Christians should be reflecting on how well they measure up to what JC really said:

Thomas Jefferson weeded out the miracle stories from the gospels and clarified the teachings of Christ in
The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth

1. Be just: justice comes from virtue which comes from the heart.

2. Treat people the way we want to be treated.

3. Always work for PEACEFUL resolutions, even to the point of returning violence with COMPASSION.

4. Consider valuable the things that have no material value.

5. Do not judge others.

6. Do not bear grudges.

7. Be modest and unpretentious.

8. Give out of true generosity, not because we expect to be repaid.

9. Being true to ones self is more important than being loyal to ones family...those who think they know the most are the most ignorant......


Merry Christmas, Happy Hannuka , a Peaceful Eid,
and good cheer and positive thoughts for all celebrations and Druid festivities.

With Love and Peace from
WAWA:
www.WeAreWideAwake.org

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» RE: xcellent Article Posted by: Bree in Idaho
WHO OWNS CHRISTMAS ?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 9, 2006 6:52 AM   
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It is an event that some choose to observe. It is NOT something to fight about. Cynicism and insults are unacceptable. A 'war on Christmas' is for people with alot of time on their hands. Year after year otherwise intelligent people get bogged down in meaningless debate. Barbara, you degrade yourself with this trash. No one cares about your Christmases past.You have more important fights to fight. We all do. MERRY CHRISTMAS ANYWAY! Thanks, ANNA

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Thanks
Posted by: Steve Adair on Dec 9, 2006 7:04 AM   
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Thanks, Barbara, for a great view of the season.

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Oh That Smell
Posted by: edith on Dec 9, 2006 7:32 AM   
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Xmas is attractive, even to us agnostics, secular humanists, and Barbara E like skeptics.

The tree Barbara refers to repeatedly does I think appeal to many of us who certainly don't believe God's "sperm"(????) fertilized a ??????????? and birthed five or six pounds of divine flesh so Xmas could be cute and not foreboding like Greek myth Incarnations(The Rape of Hera).

If you are from Latin America or Africa, I don't know if an evergreen(ooo, now I get it) stirs your heart, soul. oversoul or nasal nerves? But perhaps it's the generic Tree (of Life), not the variety?

I'm from northern climes, with pine and blue spruce within walking distance. So I do get a bit giddy when I see those trees even on tasteless commercials that leap out of screens even as I'm wrapping up Thanksgiving leftovers.

I wonder if my descendents were blue painted tree worshippers or tree dwellers? Is that why my hormones and genes bounce up and down at the first Scent of a pine needle. (I actually feel this way in the Summer too, if I'm walking in a pine or spruce grove, so..................).

merry Internal Energy Time, Barbara!

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» RE: Oh That Smell Posted by: ConnecttheDots
What do you mean by Christmas
Posted by: bookwoman on Dec 9, 2006 7:42 AM   
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The real Christmas is still the providence of those of us who think that a baby, Jesus, was born 2,000 years ago in Bethlehem. We attend religious services on December 24th or December 25th (or both) and keep on believing.

The commercialized thing that most Americans call Christmas belongs to whomever can make a dime off of it. They are welcome to it along with the stress and the disappointment when this kind of Christmas doesn't deliver its promises.

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Christmas
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Dec 9, 2006 7:52 AM   
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has nothing to do with CHRIST or MASS. It is a made-up holiday by prominent Jewish New York banking families in the mid 19th century to increase sales of consumer goods in department stores. This was due to an excessive amount of pine trees and red felt left in the auction houses due to excessive artificial demand due to speculation in forestry and beaver trapping industries (which were caused by manipulation of the currency by the Rothchilds and the aggressive anti-Indian campaigns promoted by major newspaper magnets who tricked the people into warring against the 'redskins' by major editorials and psyop new stories about 'scalping' in an attempt to spur advertising revenue).

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Religious wars about Christmas reach peace accord, while corporate war continues
Posted by: amacd on Dec 9, 2006 8:03 AM   
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Barbara, I'm glad and chuckled about your personal rapprochement with the Christmas wars on the religious side of the battlefield.

Much like our Constitution's efforts to create peace by keeping our democracy separate from any and all wars of state-mandated religion, you have achieved a reasonable solution on that potential battlefront.

However, the other known power injurious to freedom and democracy that our forefathers were concerned with, corporate interests and economic empire (like British empire), has not been so successful.

Here in New England, we have recently seen several children run over and killed by floats in Christmas parades designed to celebrate the commercial lust of the 'Christmas economy'.

It seems in this Christmas time of love to be a harsh reminder that while American democratic principles and Constitional separations between secular self-government and religion have been successful and helpful to both spheres of our pesonal and historical life as a society of man/woman, that all attempts by the our inspired founders and the few visionary political and civic leaders since, have been singularly ineffective (and skirted by contempuous guile) in separating, blocking, or even counter-balancing the power of corporate imperial mammon from continuing to pummel and slaughter the hearts of self-government by the people in a war to the death that economic empire is clearly winning over our political democracy.

Let us all remember, at this Christmas time, when we await surprizing stars and gifts, that our own American 'wisemen' brought and bought the gift of personal, governmental, and social freedom from a British empire which was both politcal and economic. That combined freedom from political and economic empire was the new gift of democracy in America --- not just the politcal triumph over empire.

Merry salvation to all religions and people (and particularly children, Barbara)

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John Dewey
Posted by: john dewey on Dec 9, 2006 8:07 AM   
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Well, I've been quite busy conducting a War on Christmas (tm). While Barbara might not have had time to fight this particular Good Fight, I've taken up the slack at my blog
John Dewey Hates Christmas

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Another Athiest Thanks to Nuns
Posted by: patvic1405 on Dec 9, 2006 8:27 AM   
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I was sent to Catholic boarding school in Santa Fe, NM, when I was just ten. I am still, at 63, recovering from the experience. These hateful bitches shredded my self-esteem and made my life hell. I was not even Catholic. The first mass I attended, I didn't know about genuflection (bending the knee to the altar before entering the pew). As the other girls obediently bowed, I just stood there in confusion. Helpfully, one of the "sisters" grabbed me by the back of the neck and forced me to my knees. It was all downhill from there.

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Ehrenreich's hidden agenda is to cover up for the saint, Santa Claus
Posted by: Sojourner on Dec 9, 2006 8:37 AM   
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All the talk about gifts conveniently overlooks the giver of those gifts, the jolly old man (prejudiced against fat men in beards, Barbara?). You better watch out!

The New Testament stories of the miracle birth are stolen from (or borrowed from) other ancient hero's birth stories. All the bigees had miracle births. I say that any excuse for a festival is a good excuse. Celebrate for its own sake.

My ideal are the clans of the pueblo Indians here in the US, where each one takes responsibility for a succession of festivals. That way there's a party going on somewhere all the time. Better than keeping busy by building armies.

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» "Celebrate for its own sake." Posted by: WhatNow?
Everybody loves to talk about the pagans...
Posted by: saramarie on Dec 9, 2006 9:08 AM   
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...but nobody ever seems to know what they're talking about!

I'm a Celtic pagan, and yes, I celebrate Christmas. It's not one of our holidays, and neither is the solstice. I do both, though. Why not? I like Santa, and I like the sun (except when it makes me red and crispy, as it is wont to do to many an Irish girl and boy!).

Now... What will the Wiccans think of Mary and the Baby? They'll probably like it, if it's pretty enough, but make sure you don't forget the Joseph, too. Remember, they like equal gender representation... they're not all just a bunch of screaming Goddess worshipers, for Christ's sakes!

Druids... please, please, do not bring Druids into this! Druids didn't celebrate anything like Yule or Christmas, and as far as I know, the tree themes came from the Germans.

It's not like we don't like getting credit for these holidays, Barbara, but we don't like seeing people mangle the facts no less than three times a year (Halloween, Christmas, and Easter). So my message is, if you're going to talk about us, go check your facts with a reliable source first. Or better yet, ask a few actual pagans. ;)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

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» Thanks so much! Posted by: hbheinze
Ignorant Consumer Holiday
Posted by: mite on Dec 9, 2006 9:31 AM   
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In history (pre-1913) small hand made gifts, homemade cards, and small gifts of love were given. Families loved, accepted, and tried not to judge each other everyday not just on the holidays. Family: the key word here. But our industrial movement, (revolution) for war, money, and power erased the real meaning of holidays.

As the Federal Reserve and IRS approch their 93rd birthday's (Dec.23) the consumer will add another few billions to this nations debt (I.O.U.'s) to these International Bankers who control our- congress, and republic. The citizens will labor, pay illegal taxes and enslave our children, grandchildren to lives of servants to these acts committed by Congress. U.S. Constitution: Article 1 Section 8 and Amendment's 1 & 9 of the Bill of Rights.

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Freedom of the press is a joke in this republic. Citizens of this republic had better turn off that TV and start researching the truth. Start with ` The Mockingbird Operation ' if you doubt any of the information put on this web site.

Ask yourself a question folks. With all the violations and acts of treason in the past 90 years destroying our Rights and Liberties; why are we only given stories about a false holiday celebrating a man like the rest of us. A day 25 Dec. as the birth of this man when in the stories in the bible you can see the time of the year of his birth was in the Spring not Winter let alone Dec. 25th.

Why is Alternet.org not running stories about the ~North American Union~ and the destruction of borders between Canada and Mexico. www.spp.gov www.infowars.com

Bless this Country and Defend our Constitution-" A Patriot" Liberty or Death!!

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Jewish Atheist?
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Dec 9, 2006 10:14 AM   
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My older brother just got back from the War on Christmas. He said they never saw the enemy half the time, but they could hear the little jingle bells on their hats...He still wakes up in the middle of the night screaming about the jingle bells.

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Grimnir
Posted by: Grimnir on Dec 9, 2006 10:28 AM   
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http://www.unogateway.com/vnews/display.
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Please combine the parts to view the url.

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Great article
Posted by: tlCampbell on Dec 9, 2006 10:41 AM   
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It's so nice to see that there are many of us who can appreciate the middle ground on Christmas. Although it's easy to be tempted by the consumerism trap, it's one of the times of year that many are guaranteed time off which can be used for family gatherings.

With everyone having rotating and/or extremely long shifts, holidays such as Christmas are cherished for a much more important reason than religious/worship purposes; it's the chance for everyone to be together.

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Xmas - yay !
Posted by: conet on Dec 9, 2006 10:58 AM   
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Xmas - movies ! Chinese food ! yay !
I'm gonna see Dreamgirls.

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War On X-Mass - Itinerary (attention fellow secular demons)
Posted by: Ghoulman on Dec 9, 2006 1:17 PM   
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6am - Wake up the troops.

7am - Coffee.

8am - Blow up all religious iconography and statues screaming "secularism is great!"

9am - As it's X-Mass, ample opportunity to defile manger displays.

10am (or so) - Take the White House.

10:30am - Brunch.

11am - Remove all religious stuff in America and burn it in a massive bonfire. There will be a band.

12pm - Continue the carnage. Hopefully, someone will have Tivoed "The View".

1pm - Turn all of Americas churches into incense shops.

2pm - Outlaw all prayer, even at Red Sox games (cause that worked once, can't let it happen again!).

3pm - Nuke Colorado. It just has to be done.

4pm - Take a break, you've earned it!

4:20pm - Light 'em if you got 'em.

5pm - Supper.

6pm - End of the day. Get a case of beer, make love without guilt, then get up tomorrow and do it all over again.

;p

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» Hierodule Posted by: Hierodule
» "There will be a band. " Posted by: WhatNow?
Barbara Ehrenreich = surrender monkey
Posted by: Joshua Holland on Dec 9, 2006 1:27 PM   
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Typical liberal appeasement.

Look, whatever you may have thought about the War on Christmas back in 2003, the fact is we're there now and if we pull out the elves and the reindeer will just slaughter eachother.

And if we surrender, the radical Christianists will see us as weak and then nothing will keep them from expanding their unholy caliphate from Rockefeller Plaza all the way to Mecca. All they understand is war.

The only option is to stay the course.

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And the solstice?
Posted by: Ahimsa on Dec 9, 2006 8:11 PM   
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I particularly cherish the idea of a holiday that comes to us from a simple observation of the cicles of the Earth; the fact that the longer night has ended and that the light is (re)born.
If that is not reason enough to dance around fires, then what is? I'm sure that is enough to make it sacred, at least in the northern emisphere...
Splendid solstice everybody

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» RE: And the solstice? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Halleluyah, two weeks off from school!!!
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Dec 10, 2006 8:10 AM   
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Halleluyah, two weeks off from school!!! I love Christmas.
No alarm clock at 6:00 a.m....No students, no papers to grade, no testing, no IEP meetings...

Happy Solstice everyone!

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Christmas lights = Electricity = Oil = War in Iraq
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Dec 10, 2006 8:14 AM   
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Christmas lights = Electricity = Oil = War in Iraq.

When will society start to see the big picture when it comes to overconsumerism?

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» Stop the war Posted by: kepstein7777
Dora and Boots
Posted by: NCSFC on Dec 10, 2006 1:49 PM   
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I don't think they're making a separate Boots toy. I'm currently working the early morning toy push at a major chain retailer and we've got Dora, Diego & Pablo out the wazoo, but the only Boots I've seen are the ones that go with Dora's Magic Castle.

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Bravo!
Posted by: Leman on Dec 10, 2006 2:33 PM   
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Ms. Ehrenreich has done it again!
Clearly voiced opinion, lively (yet not fake-folksy) style - everything I always enjoy in her articles.
And for once the opinions voiced are not diametrally opposite to mine.

I have only two things for a response:

"Me too" :-)

and

Good job!

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It isn't just Christmas that Christianity stole from Pagan religions.
Posted by: Lord Ichmael on Dec 10, 2006 9:49 PM   
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Christianity does try very much to appear to be an original religion. But, while it might've been something new in its birth stages, it fused on a bunch of Pagan myths and tales in order to make it appeal more to Pagans that were targets for conversion. From what I've heard, Christian mythology was ripped from over a dozen brands of Pagan religions. The Christmas story was stolen from the ancient Egyptian religion; a virgin giving birth to the son of "God". In Egyptian mythology, the mother's name was Isis, with the child named Horus. The Story of Christ is merely a copy of this fable, with of course a few minor changes. It's no different from how Roman mythology merely copied Greek mythology, except that Christianity is more like an assorted version of various Pagan myths. Some of the more malicious Christian superstitions that are mere clones of older teachings are:
That sex/fornicating/enjoying sex/masturbation/homosexuality/etc. is somehow evil for no actual reason, and therefore must be repressed. This fabrication is one of, if not THE myth that prevails the most over societies to this very day, with disastrous consequences (countless pedophile priests, hundreds of millions of dollars wasted on counterproductive abstinence education, 'pro-life', opposition to condom/birth-control use, rampant persecution and demonization of homo/bisexuals, etc.).
That women are somehow inferior to men, once again for no actual reason. This idiotic teaching dates back to the Stone Age (really!). Another rampant erroneous philosophy that persists to this day, in a lot of aspects of life. This one really pisses me off sometimes.
That we are really, really special and have a certain spiritual property, yet again for no reason. This manifests itself in bullshit such as:the geocentric universe 'theory', creationism/intelligent design, opposition to human cloning, stem cell research, evolution and scientific advances in general, that we are somehow better than animals, etc.
Thanks to these boneheaded '(im)moral values' (and many other ones), we have holier-than-thou zealots and Osama bin Ladens like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Rick Santorum, James Inhofe, Trent Lott and countless more. And of course it's a great political tool for corrupt Machiavellian self-serving evildoers like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove to use to trick brain-dead people into opposing their own interests. Stuff like this has turned me, a raised Catholic, into a borderline militant Antitheist with a maniacal hatred of books like the Bible. I'm sure my mom's worried sick about my eventual fate to burn in the fires of Hell. I'd rather stay away from such a tyrannical dictator of a 'God', anyway though.

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What about Winter Solstice????
Posted by: bogiebog on Dec 11, 2006 10:30 AM   
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Barbara, since you have Wiccan friends, lets not forget about Winter Solstice or Yule. That is the holiday I have adopted now that I am a recovering Christian. To me, at least, it is a much greater connection to Spirit than any other of those listed.

Sorry Christians, not every holiday in December is Christmas. But you have every right to enjoy it the way you please. Too bad so many Christians want to impose their will on the rest of us. Very un-American.

Happy Holidays and a Merry Solstice!

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Can't have a war without a Field Manual
Posted by: pubradiocat on Dec 12, 2006 6:59 AM   
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www.waronxmasmanual.com

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And my 8th husband, well, he really sucked
Posted by: Conservativation on Dec 12, 2006 8:38 AM   
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How funny a secular whatever.ist lamenting tongue in cheek about the war on Christmas while in passing casually mentioning one of the primary pathologies of our wonderfull tolerant society.
"And my 22nd husband, well he was a sex changed nun, and celebrated the 9th century worship of ceramic tea cups", now that was really bad.

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