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Watch Out, Women Are Powerful

By Katha Pollitt, The Nation. Posted December 1, 2006.


"The reason the Democrats lose elections is that they pander to female voters instead of being manly and tough. Oh, wait a minute, the Democrats won the last election. Women aren't just evil, they're powerful."

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Is it just my imagination or are women wreaking more evil than usual these days? We all know the reason boys don't read is that female teachers assign books about girls, and girls have cooties; and the reason half of all marriages end in divorce is that women have outrageous expectations, like that their husbands should talk to them; and the reason the Democrats lose elections is that they pander to female voters instead of being manly and tough. Oh, wait a minute, the Democrats won the last election. Women aren't just evil, they're powerful.

Here are some other things women are responsible for:

Rape -- I know, I know, it's an old charge, but Australia's top Muslim cleric, Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali, has managed to make it new. "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden, or in the park, or in the backyard without cover, and the cats come to eat it…whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred." Because veiled women are never raped, at least not as long as they stay in their rooms. Sheik al-Hilali later said his remarks were taken out of context -- he was only talking about prostitutes.

Gay preachers -- Pretty women may make men rape them, but ugly ones are even more powerful: They turn men into homosexuals! Here's Pastor Mark Discoll of Seattle's Mars Hill Church blogging about the downfall of evangelical preacher Ted Haggard, purchaser of gay sex and meth: "It is not uncommon to meet pastors' wives who really let themselves go; they sometimes feel that because their husband is a pastor, he is therefore trapped into fidelity, which gives them cause for laziness. A wife who lets herself go and is not sexually available to her husband in the ways that the Song of Songs is so frank about is not responsible for her husband's sin, but she may not be helping him either." Gayle Haggard, mother of five, must feel pretty silly for contributing a chapter to her husband's weight-loss manual, The Jerusalem Diet, in which, according to Publishers Weekly, "she urged women to accept their bodies and be gentle with themselves."

Iraq -- And you thought Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and those other neocons were in charge! Not so, according to the American Enterprise Institute's Michael Ledeen, quoted by David Rose in the November Vanity Fair: "Ask yourself who the most powerful people in the White House are. They are women who are in love with the president: Laura, Condi, Harriet Miers, and Karen Hughes." Ladies, you had the President's heart in your soft little hands, and you blew it. Now all those Iraqi children are dead!

Illegal immigration -- According to the Missouri legislature's GOP-heavy House Special Committee on Immigration Reform, there's a simple reason Mexicans are pouring across the border: abortion. "You don't have to think too long," said chair Representative Ed Emery. "If you kill 44 million of your potential workers, it's not too surprising we would be desperate for workers." In Missouri alone, women have murdered 80,000 future roofers and nannies since Roe v. Wade.


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can't do
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 1, 2006 12:53 AM   
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Progressives can't do without women because women made it possible for them to win. Progressives can't do without women because they're always coming up with these neat ideas like equal rights and priviliges for all of us. And progressives can't do without women because Nancy Pelosi is going to kick some right wing butts when she finds out that that is what the best progressives want. Kick the ball really high, Nancy for it is your job.

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The more powerful women become,
Posted by: Krotos on Dec 1, 2006 4:17 AM   
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the more they will wind up getting blamed for various social ills, even if it's unfair and silly to hold women as a group responsible. We males have been subject to the exact same thing since time immemorial. Enjoy.

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» Eek eek! Posted by: Burton
I am woman, hear me roar
Posted by: wawa on Dec 1, 2006 5:17 AM   
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Woman and men are both imperfect human beings, and I trust that we all do the best we can with what we've got and the cards we have been dealt.


When either sex blames, demoniozes, bitches, kvetches and whines about the other sex,
It reveals more about the one whining than it does about the one they are bitching about.

What flows from our keyboards and mouths is the overflow of our own heart.


Only in Solidarity do "We have it in our power to begin the

world again."-Tom Paine


public service message from WAWA:
WeAreWideAwake.org

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» RE: I am woman, hear me roar Posted by: babaloo
World needs MORE women in charge!
Posted by: henderson on Dec 1, 2006 5:58 AM   
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From a book I just finished, "Gather the Women, Save the World", by Jean Shinoda Bolen, "When the agenda for the world is determined by men, it means that decisions and actions that affect the planet, it's people, and all life on Earth are made by the gender that most likely does not know or care about what others are feeling, experiencing, or suffering...essential information and crucial concerns are not brought to the table."

And, "The half of humanity in charge of the world's agenda is led by men addicted to power and maintaining their dominance..."

Men have had their turn. Let's see what intelligent, empowered women can do! They can do no worse, in my opinion.

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The real reason Democrats lose elections
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 1, 2006 6:26 AM   
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Rigged voter roles and fraudulent electronic voting systems!

See the NIST report on the inability of electronic voting systems to ever produce a reliable vote count:National Institute of Standards and Technology condemns electronic voting systems

It's quite likely that the real vote count would have put a much large majority of Democrats in power (note that 18,000 electronic votes 'vanished' in a Florida district - Katherine Harris' old district! Imagine that!

Speaking of Katherine Harris (and Lynne Cheney, and Laura Bush, and Condi Rice) - there are plenty of women who will happily support the most criminal and murderous policies of this administration.

There are also plenty of women who are dedicated to opposing such policies and pursuing sane strategies - everyone from Nancy Pelosi to the Raging Grannies.

It's not about gender: it's about integrity and intelligence (two things the Bushies are sorely lacking).

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» If that's true... Posted by: ISlamIslam
» RE: If that's true... Posted by: rsaxto
Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 1, 2006 6:45 AM   
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It's really a delusion to suppose gender differences outweigh individual differences or to play the gender politics game. We need to look at the individual and her or his politics and ideas. Of course, we know about Condi, Laura, Hughes and the lot of them, but at least they are "admitted and defined Republicans." But now let's look at Dems, like one who will very likely or at least quite possibly be a presidential candidate. Hillary. You would think she would be the queen of progressive issues? Yea, well right, now she is backpedelling big time on the Iraq war, a war she fully supported. Go down the list, and just look at Dem women who voted for the war, voted for tax cuts for the rich, voted for more military spending. And, you tell me it makes a difference which sex is in power.

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Um, do we have to keep on putting up with this men vs women DIVIDE?
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 1, 2006 7:17 AM   
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As long as the gender division clown show continues, the progressives will not have a proper direction and will be forced into LOSING mode once again. As a guy, I wouldn't mind the women's groups fighting for what's true and best as long as they didn't keep pushing their luck too far ! I don't appreciate it when faux "conservatives" MISUSE machoism to achieve their agenda all the while solving nothing. Likewise, I do not appreciate it when faux "liberals" MISUSE feminism to achieve the same agenda all the while solving nothing. Besides, Pollitt would do better to take a brain retraining remedial course with folks such as George Lakoff and David Sirota. Oh wait, she needs a woman. Any female equivilant of Lakoff and Sirota anyone ?!?

P.S.: Instead of fighting for more abortions, Pollitt would do better to motivate readers into cutting down on abortions the safe way such as getting both the man and the woman to calm down and not let this utterly rough economic hell force them into deciding they can't afford the child. Hell, even if my wife and I were utterly poor, we'd be proud to raise a child and train him or her to be a PROFESSIONAL and avoid the poorhouse traps and avenge our souls.

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» NFL, NHL? Hilarious!! Posted by: MAD
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» Hey, Vyking Posted by: HeroesAll
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You just can't make that shit up
Posted by: chaoslegs on Dec 1, 2006 8:07 AM   
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They really are crazy.

My favorite saying recently is, "Trent Lott is the Minority Whip." Doesn't that sound really bad.

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Cute
Posted by: Sojourner on Dec 1, 2006 8:15 AM   
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Just what we need to stay informed--comments from a collection of bizzaro bozos. Will there be a question on the exam? "How many idiots does it take to get a response from Pollit?"

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» RE: Cute Posted by: Vyking
» Funny material Posted by: Donna_Darko
» RE: Funny material Posted by: Burton
» Men have run the world up to now Posted by: Donna_Darko
I was wrong about feminism
Posted by: Cthulhu on Dec 1, 2006 8:26 AM   
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I thought the whole goal of feminism was to end the men vs. women divide, I was clearly wrong. I'll be rethinking my views on feminism, especially after reading this dumb-ass article.

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» RE: I was wrong about feminism Posted by: Prismagirl3
» RE: I was wrong about feminism Posted by: SotaBlue
In a fair and balanced world,
Posted by: Basenjis on Dec 1, 2006 8:57 AM   
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there would be no need for feminism. I knew girls were not treated fairly when I was five years old and I wasn't allowed to do certain things my brother could do "because you're a girl." I have lived a very long life and it has not been lived in a cultural vacuum. Women have certainly not been treated equal to men during my 80-some years. It doesn't take a genius to conclude that we live in a very imbalanced world gender-wise, which may have something to do with our ineptness in dealing with many social and political problems. Who has not seen the pictures of those long, long tables around which the same important male figures are seated, decade after decade in whatever country represented, deciding the fate of us lesser human beings? One has to look carefully at times to spot one or two female faces in that boring expanse of look-alikes.

We ought not judge what women could do in world politics from the examples of the few female political figures (Clinton--Rice) who have made it to the top in a male-dominated world. Who knows what could be accomplished by both men and women sharing power in a world free of domination by either sex?

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» By all means..... Posted by: mjabele
Yellow brick road to hell....
Posted by: ekipnrut on Dec 1, 2006 10:07 AM   
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The cohort of mainly white affluent soccer/aging yuppie/
Gen X women as represented by the author and her in-
tended audience should know that 'Mommy Gaia' has been
in steadfast (goose) lock step with her Anglo Saxon men
throughout the last couple of millenia of 'Western
Civ'. Ilse Koch was not that much of an exception.....
The notion that white women are essentially culturally,
and psychologically distinguished from their fathers and
sons...is patent fucking nonsense. They are two MERELY
gender differentiated sides of the same coin.
This logorrhea from the'feminist' author is no more than
a tiresome elaboration of artificial distinctions which have
no foundation in real differences..
The oppression of women by men..regardless of race...
has certainly had its effects on women as a whole...some
of horrific and inexcusable dimension...BUT that in no way
attenuates the proclivity of white women to be just as venal,
murderous and sociopathic as white men. And these con-
siderations could find expression amongst women of color.
However white women cannot hide behind their 'sisters' of
color in 'Plantation' rhetoric momentary alliances based in
exploitative manipulation.....and at the same time blame
them for their own predicament,which of course requires
the noblesse oblige au femme of 60,70 ,90k/yr. salaried
white female program administrators. Needless to say if
you are pulling down say 85k as an administrator in some
'program' telling those dumb black broads how to budget
their WIC and food stamps...you have plenty of cash to
contribute to the DNC/ DLC bunch besides your cable bill
to watch Desperate Housecu....Sorry... Wives and your
pilates monthly payment. Is my near spelling error offen-
sive???....A hateful misogynistic reference to the female
version of the 'N-Word' ????
Let us see...recently MTV..which many of your daughters
watch (and sons)..had an animation depicting black
women on leashes ..literally like dogs....defecating on the
floor .....
Question: How many white women MTV execs who make
considerably in excess of 85k/yr...gave this a pass??
Question Do you think that if two white women were cast in
in this manner with the leash held by black men...would it
be broadcast?? HEY !!!..Becky Sue...whadya think???
Question Where the fuck was the outcry from white women
with all this alleged empathy and wisdom..who presumably
understand that to demean one woman is to demean
women.

Recall that a fundamental split occured in the mid 19th
century pre American Civil War era, when some American
suffragettes threw the abolitionist movement 'under the bus',
in order to concentrate solely on the rights of white women.
Past as prologue.....

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» Do feminists hate freedom? Posted by: Burton
Voters 4 Peace
Posted by: rwa on Dec 1, 2006 10:10 AM   
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National "Mandate for Peace" Call-in Day: Monday, December 4

Call your Representative and Senators and tell them:
“Stop Funding War! Bring Our Troops Home NOW!”

On Election Day, voters signaled to Congress that we we want a new direction and we are ready to bring our troops home. Members of Congress return to Washington DC on Monday, December 4, to determine their legislative priorities for the session. Let's greet Congress with a flood of phone calls to remind them that we want our troops to come home from Iraq. We need to make sure that Congress puts Iraq as a top priority for the new session-- together we will make sure this is an issue that Congress cannot ignore!

WHAT: Call your members of Congress to tell them to stop funding the war-- bring the troops home NOW!
WHEN: Monday, December 4
HOW: Call the Capitol Switchboard (202-224-3121) and ask for the office of your members of Congress

The death toll and carnage in Iraq is increasing at an alarming rate. Our soldiers are caught in the middle of a civil war unleashed by an administration that refused to plan for postwar reconstruction and failed to understand Iraqi culture and history. Congress has the power to end the U.S. occupation of Iraq, and if it fails to do so, we will hold them responsible for the continued violence in Iraq.

The current congress and the administration have used too many excuses for inaction. They have sat and waited for the Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group report, the Pentagon study group report, the White House study group... the excuses go on and on. We already know what we want, so let's tell them they can no longer delay bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq.

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See Ms. Pollitt - I can do it too!
Posted by: MAD on Dec 1, 2006 12:40 PM   
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Well this was another exercise in banality eh Alternet? Where the hell do you find these people? This was without a doubt the most pathetic display of self-pity dressed up as humor I have witnessed in quite some time. So much verbal diarrhea gushing forth very nearly overwhelms the reader. Thank god she enumerated otherwise I might not have been able to conceptualize and acknowledge the utter depravity that is the patriarchy. It just keeps washing over you like the unrelenting sobs of a child who has skinned her knee after falling off her new bike.

It's really quite easy to portray the opposite sex as being solely comprised of neanderthals and rapists when you select excerpts exclusively from the intellectual cream of the crop. You know, like Sheik al-Hilali, dog psychologists and religious leaders quick to defend Rev. Haggard. I bet I can do it too. Let's see

1) Melbourne City Councilwoman Pat Poole announced her opposition to renaming a street for Martin Luther King: "I wonder if he really accomplished things, or if he just stirred people up and caused a lot of riots."

2) "All men are rapists and that's all they are." Marilyn French in People, February 20, 1983..

3) "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor. "

See, I did it too. Doesn't all that female on male hate just bring tears to your eyes? Sniff, sniff . . .

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» RE: ekipnrut ThANKS, DONNA Posted by: maribelle
The problem isn't the gender difference
Posted by: Gregor on Dec 1, 2006 3:41 PM   
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As usual it shows from all the people she quoted that the nuts get to the top and we all don't just yell at these people to get out of power. WE'RE the IDIOTS. Don't let these fools have power! What WERE you THINKING! As soon as they open their mouths and spout their hate and drivel, GET them OUT. Geez, we're not talking rocket science, we are talking action. Why don't people act?

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Yumpin Yimminy
Posted by: opeluboy on Dec 1, 2006 5:38 PM   
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Dumb, dumb, dumb. Try some herbal tea, Katha. Geez.

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Isn't she cute?
Posted by: H_H on Dec 1, 2006 6:20 PM   
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Typical Katha. "The more nagging shrillness, the better" is her motto.

Glad to see she's making full use of a lady's traditional dispensation to shriek nonsense. Gotta love chivalry. It's the only thing keeping her column in The Nation.

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» Shrill AND shrieking? Posted by: Beck
» RE: Isn't she cute? Posted by: nickspm
Another feminist with a chip on her shoulder. Yawn.
Posted by: nickspm on Dec 3, 2006 8:20 AM   
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Katha-

"The reason the Democrats lose elections is that they pander to female voters instead of being manly and tough."

Oh, Katha, dear, this is certainly not why Democrats lose elections. That's just sophomoric and silly.

After all, when men are manly and tough, feminists call men rapists and murderers. And when men are caring and sensitive, with great glee - feminists rise up and are the Very First to deride men as wooses and wimps. Can't you make up your mind how YOU want to pigeonhole men, precious?

Why did women take of their bras in the first place? Was it to liberate themselves? Or did it just make it that much easier to strangle men?

Take some responsibility and stop blaming men. I promise you that you'll feel better in the morning if you do, dear!

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Cool with Katha Pollitt
Posted by: Burton on Dec 3, 2006 1:38 PM   
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Katha Pollitt tends to write light-hearted pieces, so I think a lot of people here are over-reacting to what she is saying.

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And now for a real question
Posted by: Burton on Dec 3, 2006 2:17 PM   
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Seriously, supposing that an American woman became president, and that 51% of the Congress was female: how would they end war?

For example, would women abolish all-male military conscription and require women to register also? Or abolish the draft altogether--anyone here know if any female politician has introduced legislation to end the draft? What is Hillary's position on this?

How would a woman end the fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq? I do not mean get US troops out. I mean, how would they end the now-endemic civil wars in which these countries are engaged?

Would women dissolve the military-industrial complex? What happens when their constituents protest the loss of defense industry jobs?

How about the War on Terror? Are women planning to get rid of the PATRIOT ACT and shut down the TSA? I'd like to get onto an airplane without having to be treated as if I am checking into county lockup.

What about the war on crime? I take it that women would dissolve paramilitary SWAT teams? How about ending the hassling of inner city youth under the "war on gangs"?

Would women end the war on drugs? Would women stop US use of chemical warfare against Andean drug crops? Would women stop the attacks on medical marijuana patients (Janet Reno began by arresting them!)? And what about ending unconstitutional drug war stuff like profile searches, drug testing, asset forfeiture, etc? Think the so-called "date rape" drugs would be legalized by a woman? The paranoia over "date rape drugs" has been long exposed, but the myth persists...see:

http://www.disinfo.com/
archive/pages/article/id1430/pg6/index.html

[Note: because of AlterNet's word length limitation in posting, I had to slit up the URL into two lines, but if you are going to go there, copy and paste it as a single line.]

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Only a Woman Could Get Away With Writing This Garbage!!
Posted by: faultroy on Dec 3, 2006 5:10 PM   
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If a male columnist for a publication as well respected as The Nation would write such a ridiculous diatribe he would be castigated as an ignorant uncouth troll.
However because she is a woman, she is allowed to make these absurd assertions and we make excuses..."Oh, she no doubt had a bad hair day," or " Wow that's a pretty severe case of PMS!!!"
The reality is that all of these comments were totally taken out of context, and do not in any way shape or form represent even a modicum of even handedness.
The comments about the dog were especially unfair and totally taken out of context.

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Katha Politt is brilliant observer
Posted by: pearl on Dec 3, 2006 5:55 PM   
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I'll read anything that Katha Pollit writes. She is a feminist that makes me proud. Some of the responses here are very unsettling, but I'm glad the conversation continues...

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