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The EPA's professional staff objected strongly, insisting that closing the libraries would hamstring them in their jobs. In a letter to Congress protesting the closures, public employees said, "We believe that this budget cut is just one of many Bush administration initiatives to reduce the effectiveness of the US Environmental Protection Agency, and to continue to demoralize its employees."
The EPA's precipitous move to close the libraries was based on a $2 million cut in Bush's proposed $8 billion EPA budget for 2007. EPA bureaucrats did not wait to see if Congress might restore the funds or shift budget priorities in order to save the libraries; it acted immediately to box up documents for deep storage, and shut the doors.
While the official EPA line is that all of the documents will be eventually be digitized and made available online, this will cost money that the agency does not have, so for practical purposes, all of the thousands of reports and maps that now exist only on paper or microfiche will be lost to the public and to agency scientists. They might as well just burn them.
Closing the EPA libraries is the perfect symbol to characterize the methods of the Bush administration. Since 2000, the Republicans have cemented their reputation as ushers of a new dark age. They have sought to shroud the light of science by closing libraries and by suppressing scientific reports. They have gagged their own scientists and persecuted whistleblowers. They have cloaked government in secrecy, a prime example being Dick Cheney's secret meetings with oil companies to draft an industry-friendly national energy policy. But that era is now winding down.
Just before the election, Barbara Boxer and other senators sent a letter to the Senate Appropriations Committee calling for restored access to the libraries. There is every reason to hope that the Democrats will follow through with their newly won power and get those libraries reopened. But this will be just the beginning of a Herculean task to clean the muck out of the stables and restore an environmental regulatory function to government.
For those who have labored in the environmental trenches, who know the true size of the mountain of excrement that blocks our path to good environmental policy, even the task of listing the environmental tasks to be done feels overwhelming.
In the early days of the Bush reign, the Natural Resources Defense Council began compiling all of the Bush administration rollbacks and assaults on environmental quality. By the November 2004 elections, it had listed more than 300 Bush "crimes against nature." NRDC stopped counting a year later, but you can still see the list at their web site.
So it's hard to say what the Democrats' environmental priorities should be. Climate change, energy, clean air and water, forest and wildlands protection, toxics, endangered species -- they are all important, urgent and critical. The common thread through all of these environmental issues is the need to understand and follow the science. That requires two things: good information and good people. Without the presidency, the Democrats will be limited in their ability to enact new policies, but they should do their utmost to block bad appointees, encourage and protect whistleblowers, and pump some money back into starved and understaffed agencies like the EPA and the Forest Service.
Some recent history shows what can be accomplished under less than optimum conditions. I began my career as a forest advocate in the latter half of the Reagan/Bush I years. That government was characterized by the anti-environmental "we might as well use it all up because Jesus is coming" philosophy of Secretary of the Interior James Watt.
Our hopes were raised when Clinton took office, but passing health care reform, not forest protection legislation was his priority. We got a "forest conference" instead and instructions to the Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management to protect spotted owls. A court ruling was the only backstop. Then, after the Gingrich revolution, there was no chance to pass proactive wilderness or forest protection legislation.
But forest advocates continued to lobby the Clinton administration, and after eight years, we began to sense a sea-change in the managing agencies. They became much friendlier to science. Not only did Clinton manage to appoint Mike Dombeck, a wildlife biologist, as Forest Service Chief, but the number and status of the "-ologists," the biologists, hydrologists, geologists, and other scientists had risen. We found that even in the absence of strong conservation directives, with good people in place and respect for the science, forest management was greatly improved.
Then that dark day fell in November 2000. By Thanksgiving, as we swallowed hanging chads with our turkey, we knew that our carefully built edifice of protection for forests would be attacked. We hoped to limit the damage, but Bush and company have had a long and destructive run.
Still, it could have been worse. If anything, I think the environmental movement is stronger now than it was when Bush took office. As the environment continues to degrade, people are no longer taking environmental protection for granted. As the public sees what a dark ages approach to the environment looks like, there is a greater appreciation for science.
In the end, it comes down to people. People have voted out the Republicans and voted in the light of reason. Without access to information, reason cannot operate. Let there be libraries!
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Posted by: rsaxto on Nov 23, 2006 1:36 AM
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 23, 2006 4:03 AM
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With only one month and one week left before the Dems take hold of this outrageous situation, the GOP still has alot of opportunity to do even more damage to your once-great nation. Keep your eyes on the garbage they try to make law between now and then. The closing of the EPA library is only the beginning.
Does the First Fool even realize that we won't have to wait a generation or two before historians label him the worst president ever? That judgement can be made with absolutely no counter argument at this moment. No question about it. Can you even think of any administration that comes close? True, James Buchanan's ineptitude led to the American Civil War, but the damage he did was limited to the continental United States. Bush's stupidity might very well lead the planet down the path into World War Three III.
In terms of corruption, stupidity and gool old all American incompetence. no one, and - I mean nobody, baby - will come close to this half-witted, murderous little thug. I, for one, will be giddy with joy in the coming year watching these hideous bastards and bitches (Hi, Condi!) come crashing down in utter shame and disgrace.
The happiest day of my life will be the day that George W. Bush is sent to prison for the rest of his life for his crimes against humanity. It's going to happen, I promise you that. It's going to happen. I am as sure of that as I am anything.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Tom Degan
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"The Rant" by Tom Degan
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Posted by: marxalot on Nov 23, 2006 4:08 AM
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The Dems are facing an enormous task on many fronts besides the EPA. They will get some things done, leave many things undone, and screw up a few things along the way. There will be nothing but criticism from the main stream mouthpieces the whole time.
Know what? Considering the alternative, every bitch and moan I hear now about Democrats is just sweet music to my ears.
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Nov 23, 2006 5:18 AM
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Without EPA regulation I can only imagine how much more business would plunder, pollute, and destroy the environment.
I watched An Inconvenient Truth recently. I bet it drives these dark ages bush administration criminals crazy. Science must be a disturbing idea to these faith based nazis. I guess the EPA is becoming as bad as Galileo and Copernicus were during their times.
This does not bode well for life. How is it that the greatest liars, thieves, cheats, and murderers rise to the top? The bush administration are the dregs of society. Yes, their appearances may make some think otherwise but if they didn't have deception, market manipulation, and cruelty could they have ever gotten anywhere on their own merit?
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Good, reliable information is what we need to have to effect legitimate policy against the abuse of the environment, and this corrupt, morally decrepit, inept, rapidly-fragmenting and desperate administration knows it - and do their best to suppress the quantities of information that would curb, and in some ways, legitimize even, some ideas even they may have.
I hope I live long enough to spit on GeorgeWBush's grave...or worse. He is an insult to humanity, to his country, to his party, to his office and to the Constitution of the United States of America.
God - please - Deliver him, from us here, on Earth.
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Posted by: NDnative on Nov 23, 2006 7:40 PM
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P.S.: Clinton/Gore did nothing to subsidize biofuels, solar, and wind and they fought to keep hemp illegal. I'm no fan of Bush/Cheney but the Democrats sure as hell better not give us "centrist" GOP apologists !
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Posted by: Maryanne on Nov 24, 2006 11:13 AM
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Does she have NO influence on George? If not, what good has all her education in library science and her "commitment" to reading do for anyone?
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Posted by: bob t on Nov 25, 2006 7:04 AM
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The very agenda of the entire republican party is that of protecting THINGS and CORPORATIONS not our planet or it's people and they have made that abundantly clear, time and time again and they will never stop because that is their core agenda based as it is upon the very foundations stones of the Repub Party. WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS FORGET THIS AT ELECTION. A prime example is/was Richard Pombo, a Catholic and a Republican who with the help of ARNOLD S. and all repubs would have destroyed the ecology of the entire U.S. And almost all repubs are just like him. The only and somewhat tenous saving elements were that he got thrown out of office because Californians reaslly do care about their environment and Arnold S., in order to get reelected had to make a show of support for environmental issues, but just how long will that last.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Nov 26, 2006 1:55 PM
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Meanwhile, the newz media gives us Paris Hilton, O.J., Snoop Dog, Movie Star PR and right wing punditry. The fact that the same companies that buy advertising on TV also contribute to the RNC and fund the lobbyists that are robbing us blind has more than a little to do with it. We get bread and circuses under the guise of news while the foxes are in the henhouse.
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Posted by: ng1944 on Nov 27, 2006 9:43 AM
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His legacy?????
Lies, lies and more lies, war, torture, murder and
destroing of America middle class, that's his bloody legacy.
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Posted by: grokked on Nov 28, 2006 7:11 AM
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What it showed was an anticipated increase in CO2 over the next fifty years that appeared to be (at least) three times greater than the increase that took us from the depths of the last glaciation period through 1970.
With other stressors (in addition to GW) already killing both the oceans and the rain forests, how long will it be before the percentage of breathable O2 in the atmosphere starts dropping?
That has been a feature of (at least two of) the other great mass extinctions events. Heat kills the forests and reefs - all the while releasing methane (8 times as potent as CO2 as a greenhouse gas) from the permafrost. The oceans and land both desertify- and the O2 levels drop.
Do the righty morons of Bush's "base" really think that Jee-zus is going to magically cook up oxygen for them to breath? Or do they think they can "learn" to breath in a 10% oxygen environment?
We are in deep shit people. Tell your kids not to bother having kids of their own. They're all going to die.
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Posted by: off-the-radar 2 on Nov 28, 2006 9:08 AM
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Why waste time hating a good ol' boy from Texas who is just playing the role of President? Figuring out who is controlling the presidency and taking action in both our personal, professional and political spheres to live more sustainably may be more productive.
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Posted by: ncdave4life on Nov 28, 2006 4:48 PM
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Why, with taxpayer-supported University libraries all over the place, do we also need "EPA libraries," anyhow?
As for the EPA budget cuts, well I did a bit of googling, and I learned that Clinton's final EPA budget proposal (FY 2001) was for $7.26 billion. Four years later, Bush's proposed FY 2005 EPA budget was for $7.76 billion. The projected actual FY 2007 EPA budget is $7.90 billion (see http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/epa.html).
Now I realize that the actual budgets are always a bit higher than the proposed budgets, but, even so, that's not much of a "cut." All in all, this seems like much ado about almost nothing.
-Dave
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Posted by: rsaxto on Nov 23, 2006 1:36 AM
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 23, 2006 4:03 AM
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With only one month and one week left before the Dems take hold of this outrageous situation, the GOP still has alot of opportunity to do even more damage to your once-great nation. Keep your eyes on the garbage they try to make law between now and then. The closing of the EPA library is only the beginning.
Does the First Fool even realize that we won't have to wait a generation or two before historians label him the worst president ever? That judgement can be made with absolutely no counter argument at this moment. No question about it. Can you even think of any administration that comes close? True, James Buchanan's ineptitude led to the American Civil War, but the damage he did was limited to the continental United States. Bush's stupidity might very well lead the planet down the path into World War Three III.
In terms of corruption, stupidity and gool old all American incompetence. no one, and - I mean nobody, baby - will come close to this half-witted, murderous little thug. I, for one, will be giddy with joy in the coming year watching these hideous bastards and bitches (Hi, Condi!) come crashing down in utter shame and disgrace.
The happiest day of my life will be the day that George W. Bush is sent to prison for the rest of his life for his crimes against humanity. It's going to happen, I promise you that. It's going to happen. I am as sure of that as I am anything.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan
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Posted by: marxalot on Nov 23, 2006 4:08 AM
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The Dems are facing an enormous task on many fronts besides the EPA. They will get some things done, leave many things undone, and screw up a few things along the way. There will be nothing but criticism from the main stream mouthpieces the whole time.
Know what? Considering the alternative, every bitch and moan I hear now about Democrats is just sweet music to my ears.
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Nov 23, 2006 5:18 AM
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Without EPA regulation I can only imagine how much more business would plunder, pollute, and destroy the environment.
I watched An Inconvenient Truth recently. I bet it drives these dark ages bush administration criminals crazy. Science must be a disturbing idea to these faith based nazis. I guess the EPA is becoming as bad as Galileo and Copernicus were during their times.
This does not bode well for life. How is it that the greatest liars, thieves, cheats, and murderers rise to the top? The bush administration are the dregs of society. Yes, their appearances may make some think otherwise but if they didn't have deception, market manipulation, and cruelty could they have ever gotten anywhere on their own merit?
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Good, reliable information is what we need to have to effect legitimate policy against the abuse of the environment, and this corrupt, morally decrepit, inept, rapidly-fragmenting and desperate administration knows it - and do their best to suppress the quantities of information that would curb, and in some ways, legitimize even, some ideas even they may have.
I hope I live long enough to spit on GeorgeWBush's grave...or worse. He is an insult to humanity, to his country, to his party, to his office and to the Constitution of the United States of America.
God - please - Deliver him, from us here, on Earth.
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Posted by: NDnative on Nov 23, 2006 7:40 PM
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P.S.: Clinton/Gore did nothing to subsidize biofuels, solar, and wind and they fought to keep hemp illegal. I'm no fan of Bush/Cheney but the Democrats sure as hell better not give us "centrist" GOP apologists !
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Does she have NO influence on George? If not, what good has all her education in library science and her "commitment" to reading do for anyone?
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Posted by: bob t on Nov 25, 2006 7:04 AM
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The very agenda of the entire republican party is that of protecting THINGS and CORPORATIONS not our planet or it's people and they have made that abundantly clear, time and time again and they will never stop because that is their core agenda based as it is upon the very foundations stones of the Repub Party. WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS FORGET THIS AT ELECTION. A prime example is/was Richard Pombo, a Catholic and a Republican who with the help of ARNOLD S. and all repubs would have destroyed the ecology of the entire U.S. And almost all repubs are just like him. The only and somewhat tenous saving elements were that he got thrown out of office because Californians reaslly do care about their environment and Arnold S., in order to get reelected had to make a show of support for environmental issues, but just how long will that last.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Nov 26, 2006 1:55 PM
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Meanwhile, the newz media gives us Paris Hilton, O.J., Snoop Dog, Movie Star PR and right wing punditry. The fact that the same companies that buy advertising on TV also contribute to the RNC and fund the lobbyists that are robbing us blind has more than a little to do with it. We get bread and circuses under the guise of news while the foxes are in the henhouse.
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Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Nov 26, 2006 5:33 PM
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Posted by: ng1944 on Nov 27, 2006 9:43 AM
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His legacy?????
Lies, lies and more lies, war, torture, murder and
destroing of America middle class, that's his bloody legacy.
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Posted by: grokked on Nov 28, 2006 7:11 AM
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What it showed was an anticipated increase in CO2 over the next fifty years that appeared to be (at least) three times greater than the increase that took us from the depths of the last glaciation period through 1970.
With other stressors (in addition to GW) already killing both the oceans and the rain forests, how long will it be before the percentage of breathable O2 in the atmosphere starts dropping?
That has been a feature of (at least two of) the other great mass extinctions events. Heat kills the forests and reefs - all the while releasing methane (8 times as potent as CO2 as a greenhouse gas) from the permafrost. The oceans and land both desertify- and the O2 levels drop.
Do the righty morons of Bush's "base" really think that Jee-zus is going to magically cook up oxygen for them to breath? Or do they think they can "learn" to breath in a 10% oxygen environment?
We are in deep shit people. Tell your kids not to bother having kids of their own. They're all going to die.
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Posted by: off-the-radar 2 on Nov 28, 2006 9:08 AM
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Why waste time hating a good ol' boy from Texas who is just playing the role of President? Figuring out who is controlling the presidency and taking action in both our personal, professional and political spheres to live more sustainably may be more productive.
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Posted by: ncdave4life on Nov 28, 2006 4:48 PM
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Why, with taxpayer-supported University libraries all over the place, do we also need "EPA libraries," anyhow?
As for the EPA budget cuts, well I did a bit of googling, and I learned that Clinton's final EPA budget proposal (FY 2001) was for $7.26 billion. Four years later, Bush's proposed FY 2005 EPA budget was for $7.76 billion. The projected actual FY 2007 EPA budget is $7.90 billion (see http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/epa.html).
Now I realize that the actual budgets are always a bit higher than the proposed budgets, but, even so, that's not much of a "cut." All in all, this seems like much ado about almost nothing.
-Dave
dave at burtonsys dot com
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