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Ring Tones: The End of Music As We Know It?
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It doesn't take an audiophile to recognize that the musical possibilities of a cell phone are crude to the point of abstract. But ring tones are perhaps the music industry's fastest growing opportunity, with $4 billion in global sales during 2004. Though the online music industry proper is only beginning to sell complete singles for $.99 a track, 20-second ring tones have been selling well for years now for about $3 each. Most ring tones are composed of either monophonic or polyphonic (SP-MIDI) sequences, but many newer models support compressed audio clips. The most popular musical ring tones are always cell-phone-capable arrangements of pop songs, with just enough fidelity to be recognizable as a reference to the source material. These brief tunes are their own referential music; music that acts as a sketched abstract of an established song, evoking the memory of this music. The cell phone, so perfect a medium for purely referential music has indeed formed a happy union with the content referencing that has fueled pop music for ages.
But doesn't the Crazy Frog phenomenon reveal that ring tones can escape their second-hand status as mere pointers and become our preferred music? This anthropomorphic corporate mascot may in fact herald the next stage of popular music as it shifts into its next form, whose value and meaning lies increasingly in its reference to the medium of its predecessor.
Technological innovations not only change music production but what listeners think music is and is not. At the end of the 19th century, new copyright laws allowed the Tin Pan Alley alliances of composers, lyricists, and publishers to make sheet music a song's tangible artifact, with performers and enthusiasts alike purchasing copies of hit songs (e.g. "After the Ball Is Over") by the millions. In the 20th century, gadgetry gets its big break, and technology no longer merely plays a socially catalytic role but becomes the means of producing musical sound. By 1911 the price of the newly invented Victrola had dropped as low as $15, filling American homes. Stars quickly began to record for emerging record companies. The deep voices of celebrities like Enrico Caruso were a natural fit for this technology, which ignored nearly everything above 2,500 Hz and below 150 Hz, badly reproducing the rest -- less than an eighth of the fidelity of our modern CD standard. Much like with cell phone ring tones, this sound served as a mnemonic for the what was understood as the prevailing mode of music -- live performance -- that it would soon overtake.
But the bright sound of the piano, hostile to early recording methods, found its own way to survive in this age of simulation. As early as 1905, professional pianists were mechanically recording every nuance of their gestures onto rolls of paper. These rolls could then be played back on the Pianola or other brand-name player pianos in one's living room. A 1920s advertisement for these devices shows just how deeply technology had dug itself into the act of music making. In one frame we see a bored, snoozing family surrounding a regular upright piano with caption reading "The Silent Piano". In the next, the same family is dancing and singing along with a player piano. Indeed, in 1925 player pianos outsold "silent pianos".
Radio's appearance was initially greeted by the industry with hostility but soon found a role as partner. By 1930, Billboard was reporting that "sheet music and record dealers now consider radio a boon to their business, rather than a detriment." As live performing professionals had once advertised sheet music, now radio would advertise records, since by this point, music was now near completely encapsulated within a vinyl physical object referencing an imagined live performance few people actually witnessed, if it were to take place at all.
But the rise of television in the 1940s and 1950s presented radio with a new challenge. To maintain its entertainment value in the face of television, radio responded with its Top 40 format, choosing songs directly from the Billboard chart of the same name. The domination of the hit single had begun. Casey Kasem hit the airwaves in 1970, counting down hit songs in reverse order. Corporate consolidation among radio stations began in the mid 1980s and resulted in the top 20 owners maintaining more than 20 percent of all domestic stations.
The emphasis on hit singles in the market had the effect of diminishing the significance of artists themselves. To the public, many artists are reduced to and equated with their singles, remaining one-dimensional. Without live representation, an artist's opportunity to connect with an audience as one human to another disappears.
Now the single-based format is stronger than ever, thanks to song downloads and the advent of music-compression technology -- MP3s. The 2005 addition of paid music downloads to Billboard's charting metrics signaled their growing significance. Not only does the distribution of individual songs reinforce the importance of singles, but the ad-hoc social process of exchange among users of the wealth of recordings available as swappable digital files encourages users to create a montage of singles, mix-tape style. Indeed, Apple's research found that many consumers constantly listened to their iPods in shuffle mode, prompting them to create a screenless player the size of a pack of gum that would automatically play loaded singles randomly. This randomization divorces music -- now freed from aesthetic, geographic, and personal features -- from the musicians who performed it. With all the emphasis on singles, the notion of artists as active musical entities loses force as the aesthetic direction they once offered through albums dissolves. The consuming public confronts their song collections as though they were found sounds, akin to musique concrète. The result is a two-way street of musical decontextualization: Disembodied singles are both better suited for ad-hoc arrangement while such an arrangement further reinforces the idea of singles as isolated found sounds.
But aren't we searching for more than sounds? If one random ordering of music is as good as another, what does this say about the role of music in our lives? Apple claims in its ads that "iPod Shuffle adds musical spontaneity to your life. Lose control. Love it." For many however, there's just not much to lose.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Nov 21, 2006 12:14 AM
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People who program drum machines consider themselves musicians.
Singers who cannot sing.
Players holding, but not playing instruments.
Talking in a monotone over a drum track passes for music (yes, I'm dissing Hip-Hop).
Real Musicians PLAY instruments and, if they sing, do their own singing
It was once said you can be a musician or in the music business, but not both. There is more than a kernel of truth in that statement.
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Posted by: rsaxto on Nov 21, 2006 12:58 AM
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Posted by: moflard on Nov 21, 2006 1:49 AM
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As for the demise of the album - the writer forgets one thing. These too are constructs, just as much "found sounds" (pretentious, moi?) as the singles. The very process of creating albums, with the infamous singles track, means artists have to make compromises. To time, to marketability, to just having enough songs on the disk. And recorded music is a very special case. Worrying about "wither music", the author seems to forget other musical forms - folk music sessions are just about always random, as are jamming sessions, ritual music the world over may have a random quality to it as different artists take different directions, etc, etc.
Ultimately - if a musician only wants their music experienced in a particular way, or running order, or whatever other self-important "arty" bolox they come up with - they may as well sit alone in a room masturbating.
Well at least there'd be less jazz. ;-)
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 21, 2006 3:05 AM
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* Before you could download individual songs, you had to buy the album. And more often than not, albums were one or two good songs with 8 or 10 filler songs. Remember hearing a cool song on the radio, buying the album, and then sticking it in the closet because it sucks?
* The internet and other technologies have allowed underground bands, cult bands, and new bands more exposure than ever, because many can now afford to record songs, publish them online, and have a web site.
* Albums are often pretentious and self-indulgent. Maybe I don't want to be force-fed your story or experience your concept. I just want to hear a good song.
* I kind of like the idea that music is divorced from the band. All bands derived their material from elsewhere anyway. The idea that a band "owns" a song is kind of silly. Music by everyone for everyone--in whatever order they want--is not such a bad idea. What's wrong with the listener getting involved in the creative process? Sorry Metallica.
* I don't really get the point about ring-tones. Who's really going to replace their album collection with a bunch of goofy ring-tones? If that's how you want to spend your $3, knock yourself out. There's still plenty of us who like real music.
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Posted by: hagwind on Nov 21, 2006 5:14 AM
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I love it that all these people are making their own music, even if plenty of them are performing and recording a bit before they're ready. Same goes for writers and painters and photographers and practitioners of other arts. Those who are committed and work at it and pay at least some attention to what their audiences can tolerate -- they'll probably get better. Many will drop by the wayside or go on to other things.
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Posted by: NIKUZAI on Nov 21, 2006 6:36 AM
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You read far too much into it. If you are trying to say that Crazy Frog is inidicative of the decline in quality of pop music, then I agree. But the reason for that is ever so simple - more people are buying the sort of music that you would run a mile from. Personally, I think that more morons are buying music - it has been made easier for them to do so - due to the 'progress' afforded by modern technology, they can now buy their ridiculous musical choice as they no longer have to contend with the disapproving look from record store staff. Yes, the internet makes it easy for me to buy whatever music I want; unfortunately it has also enabled a million MOR morons (should that be MORons?!) to get their music easily too.
Yeah, I'm a snob and slightly offensive with it; and you might ask who am I to look down on what other people listen to? Well, I agree that it's an issue of personal taste - that should have been the logical conclusion to this article. But while I agree it is a matter of personal taste, I don't think anyone can ignore the fact that music has deteriorated just when it has become easier to get hold of music (if this gets responses along the lines of "but what about The Killers?" or "what about the Artic Monkeys" I will just laugh (insanely, probably for a million years!)).
So, the question I think that the article should have posed is whether the internet and the 'democracy' it has offered has been for the good or bad of music - discuss!
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Nov 21, 2006 7:14 AM
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When we're all stuck in the FEMA camps, I wonder if they will play all these ring tones over the loudspeakers... so we can all sing along:
beeeep (Born)
beep (in)
beep (the)
beep (U)
beep (S)
beep (A)
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Posted by: madmac10 on Nov 21, 2006 7:29 AM
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Hey, I have as much respect for instrumental proficiency as any of you--and believe me, I hate most of those nasty-ass, narcissistic ringtones as well. But this "throw the baby out with the bathwater" mentality just makes the noise all that much uglier. Why contribute to ugliness instead of seeking out beauty? I have found such beauty in this corporatized, mechanized landscape that most posters here would gladly cordon off.
A little while back, while riding the Metro to work one moring, there was a clatzch of youngsters huddled in the back all playing their phones together. It was rudimentary, and cacophonic (many other passengers began huffing in disgust,) but something about it was --beautiful! I heard an echo of early man banging on rocks and logs, trying to evoke the Goddess; I heard the birth of SOMETHING NEW!
As Picasso said, the true artist will paint in the dust with his tongue. Y'all better recognize them as they paint all over your world.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 21, 2006 8:51 AM
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And, the "music" itself: honestly, how can anybody call something music that consists of clumsy, simple-simon couplets delivered in tone-deaf style with a monotonous, primative beat, endlessly repeated nearly the same in piece after piece, and with a bone-rattling, hearing-damaging bass level that blows over the top of every other sound? The next logical step from this, I suppose, in a pop culture world having absolutely no knowledge of, or interest in, either the rich history of music or even the quality of sound itself, would be ring tones.
The question is: where does the cruise down Mediocrity Lane (with a "drive by" or two...) lead from here? Will we be back to hisses, grunts and the occasional fart as "musical" expression fit for the masses, simply because it would be "new," having not been tried for, say, 500,000 years or so? Will the day come when the music of the Beatles, Stones, Eagles, etc., is considered highbrow and pretentious, simply because a completely dumbed-down populace cannot understand the complexity of that music's melodies or lyrics? The mind reels at the thought.
In short, where IS the bottom? We've come through (rather, are still experiencing) a period where rap and hip-hop "stars" shoot and kill each other (when they're not in jail) and glorify killings by their followers (Funny, I just don't remember the Beatles/Stones rivalry resulting in any deaths – did I miss something?). Now we're in a period where many young pop-music followers have cell phones in their ears so much of the time the phones are beginning to attach themselves, and are talking, talking, talking all of the time; but listening, or learning, very little.
Intellect, curiosity and intelligence are being buried by the smart-mouth Age of Trash Talk; how much lower can we go from here? And will that place be a world any of us would want to live in?
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Posted by: benzene on Nov 21, 2006 9:38 AM
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So remember that your music is inherently different from other people's music because you are different from other people. As such, relativism is a wise course.
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Posted by: goatini on Nov 21, 2006 10:10 AM
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if someone else prefers stupid noises, what should I or we care?
the author's point on IPod tune shuffling divorcing ppl from the actual music, i think, is kind of silly. if a kid got hip to Sinatra and has "Summer Wind" in his random IPod play, i think that's good in and of itself. it matters not to me if the kid doesn't pore over Frank's Reprise catalog in minute detail.
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Posted by: doinaheckuvajob on Nov 21, 2006 11:12 AM
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Gross? No grosser than most hip hop. When you can shout 'n' rhyme in a paint by numbers manner about your id run amuck while 'sampling' (stealing) bits from other records, you don't have to think in terms of melody.
So, if you can't hear melody in music, perhaps ring tones will help bring them back from the wilderness of scratch and shout. That wouldn't be so bad, would it? A little extra noise pollution on the street from ring tones in return for a rebirth of melody consciousness sounds ok to me.
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Posted by: vangogh69 on Nov 21, 2006 12:43 PM
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As far as the general decline of music, whew, i guess if we're talking about pop culture, then the music could use some help. This has more to do with a general trend in all art at this time, perhaps an offshot of post-modernism or the general "dumbing down" of American culture. However, many people (here and) the world over are making exciting music/art and one could find the stuff fairly easy if one was so inclined.
Even then, though, I'd defend popular music a bit which is, if you really listen to SOME of it, a bit complex (take Beyonce's "Ring the Alarm", which is a bit genre-bending, not entirely harmonious, and quite aggressive...not an easy song to pin-down). Sure, much of it is formulaic, but even in the "mainstream" people are trying to do cool things (thinking of Justin Timberlake's "SexyBack" or anything by Missy Elliot).
I don't believe ringtones are destroying music per say, but it is furthering the post-modern contextualization of music, something which takes sole ownership out of the hands of one individual, puts it in the hands of many, and dare I say it, socializes the experience. The downside to this is we lose the context for certain pieces/songs, and they lose the full weight of their meaning when placed in this a-historical setting. Tihs is also the result of consumerism and how, in order to be a consumable product, a certain "anesthesia" (sp?) must take place.
My two cents.
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Posted by: MAD on Nov 21, 2006 1:40 PM
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Alternet fancies itself a serious voice in "progressive" politics where progressive apparently means recycling the same 5 stories, or variations therein, every singe day. Thanks to Alternet's, uhm, thorough 3-month coverage of the '06 midterm elections (complete with hourly Foley/Haggard updates) we're all well aware that Pelosi & Co. are going to extricate us from Iraq while taking out the trash up on the Hill.
What we rarely get, if ever, are well-researched articles that are germane to the average reader. The imminent collapse of the US housing market, and corresponding collapse of the dollar don't have the same media sex appeal as abortion or Israel but you can bet your ass they are going to affect readers far more profoundly than the media misread of Pelosi's endorsement of Murtha. We rarely hear anything about deficit spending, NAFTA, the gutting of America's industrial complex, etc. Time to get serious Alternet. Time to step up and tell us why this kind of thing is happening:
"Also, according to Marketwatch, “US residents purchased a net $22.9 billion in foreign securities, up from $2.7 billion in August. Foreign holdings of dollar-denominated short-term securities, including Treasury bills, fell by $10.8 billion.”
Inquiring minds want to know why the upper crust is eschewing domestic investments in favor of Euro/Asian and even Latin American bonds. Why is Dick Cheney's money tied up in Europe despite every outward declaration that the anemic greenback is holding its own? You don't want to leave Americans without a chair when the music stops do you Alternet?
Alternet writers love to point out how they pick up on stories the MSM neglects. Lucky us. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings; a compelling story about Blackberries?
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Posted by: insulaparadigm on Nov 21, 2006 9:33 PM
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Classical music in particular and Jazz take years of devotion that cannot be doubted. But their marketing towards youth still sucks. Outside of that - education on these forms is poor too and lack of funding towards the arts in schools might
contribute to the death of these art forms.
Besides it also took a lot of money to put "crazy frog" on top of the charts. I'm listening to the song on napster now and it's driving me insane so I have no idea where this rambling is going. Anyhow for the ultra-traditionalists toward music - gripe all you want - it's not helping the music you appreciate one bit.
Things just fill in anyways - try - just try to match beats on a set of turntables.... or even just beatboxing. sorry gramps but it's actually hard - I'll try the violin over turntables (talk about an instrument that only the best should play)
pop and techno etc sure has a lot of crap but the cream does rise to the top - and even disney bred pop crap like britney -
behind the star with little talent is an army of studio musicians or producers who have put in the years.
Computers can do almost anything include simulating classical instruments. They make almost anything difficult to do manually easier or even automatic - but the question is up to the composer - every person with a camera may capture what's in front of them but they aren't photographers and their efforts won't be reproduced or acclaimed.
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Posted by: mattstafford on Nov 22, 2006 12:35 AM
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On the grounds that it stimulates the brain
We've done him one better in the land of coke & honey
Using music to put people's brains to sleep
Ever wonder why commercial radio's so bad?
It's 'cause someone upstairs wants it that way
If the Doors or John Lennon were getting started now
The industry wouldn't sign 'em in a million years
-Jello Biafra
Pop music is meant to be stupid in order to tranquilize the masses. Shure, the value of music is subjective up to a certain point, but there are limits. I don't care what people listen to in the comfort of there own homes, but why should I constantly be subjected to other people's garbage. After being FORCED to listen to the inane dribble from the radio at work for hours on end it will start to have a negative impact on my cognitive abilities. Pop music is meant to be bad (of course there are some exceptions). It is supposed to provide a hook that will immediately satisfy the listener with minimal involvment, but will grow old quickly. Jazz doesn't sell because it will take several listens just to start to get into an album. Every subsequent listen will provide the listener with something new. This is not good for record sales. Music needs to be reduced to a disposable product to generate maximum profit. There is no need for singles when every lick is part of a rich tapestry and it is hard to say what the "best part" is. The appreciation of true art one of the best ways to rebel against consumerism.
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Posted by: twerquie on Nov 22, 2006 10:23 AM
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You seriously sound like someone's grandfather complaining about the price of stamps.
The future isn't just going to slow down because you are unhappy about the direction it's taking. The benefit of the ubiquity of portable media devices and digital compression is that ANYONE can make music and as long as people like it, they can access it. Cut out the middle man and deal direct with your audience. If you can't see that that is an enormous boon to all musicians, then you really are doomed to sighing over the loss of the mono-recorded 8-track for eternity.
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Posted by: ctignor on Nov 22, 2006 10:13 PM
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http://www.slowsix.com/words/A_Memory_Of_Music.pdf
Best,
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Posted by: sabresong on Nov 25, 2006 4:11 AM
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I'm also a poet. As a poet, I can respect the talent of rap and hip-hop artists. As a musician, I respect the rythmic intricacies of those same artists. I don't like that sort of music, it's not to my taste. But it is a valid art form.
But this article, arrogant though it seems in several of the points it offers, isn't about rap, hip-hop or any viable art form. It's about the continued desecration of that art in the interest of profit by the corporate giants. Whether the ringtones are art or not is irrelevant. The fact that anyone willing to sell their rights to their own creations and personalities, whether completely original or expanded from the works of previous artists, can become an instant pop-star, while the rest of us who try to retain control of our own creative processes are relegated to the local club scene is indicative of a popular misunderstanding of art in general. Talent, it seems, is less important than marketability.
A most excellent band here in my city has recently undergone personnel changes, resulting in a dramatic loss of sound, creativity, originality and ultimately following, in the interest of marketability.
Music is the most powerful force known to man, and is original form of communication. That it has become nothing more than a marketing tool, that the true musicians in ALL forms of music are lost to the whims of a population whose musical preferences are less chosen than dictated, is a sad commentary on modern humanity. It's the church-dominated middle-ages music mentality all over again, with the RIAA and its bedmates more powerful than the Pope ever was.
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Posted by: blitzmesser on Nov 25, 2006 2:09 PM
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Ring tones really help people to appreciate great music.
"Da da da dah, da da da dah...."
Or
"This is the symphony that Schu-u-ubert never finished....."
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Posted by: Mr. Heathen on Nov 27, 2006 9:10 PM
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For a while, we will still have our own burps and farts.
Those will eventually cease too.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Nov 21, 2006 12:14 AM
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People who program drum machines consider themselves musicians.
Singers who cannot sing.
Players holding, but not playing instruments.
Talking in a monotone over a drum track passes for music (yes, I'm dissing Hip-Hop).
Real Musicians PLAY instruments and, if they sing, do their own singing
It was once said you can be a musician or in the music business, but not both. There is more than a kernel of truth in that statement.
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Posted by: moflard on Nov 21, 2006 1:49 AM
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As for the demise of the album - the writer forgets one thing. These too are constructs, just as much "found sounds" (pretentious, moi?) as the singles. The very process of creating albums, with the infamous singles track, means artists have to make compromises. To time, to marketability, to just having enough songs on the disk. And recorded music is a very special case. Worrying about "wither music", the author seems to forget other musical forms - folk music sessions are just about always random, as are jamming sessions, ritual music the world over may have a random quality to it as different artists take different directions, etc, etc.
Ultimately - if a musician only wants their music experienced in a particular way, or running order, or whatever other self-important "arty" bolox they come up with - they may as well sit alone in a room masturbating.
Well at least there'd be less jazz. ;-)
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 21, 2006 3:05 AM
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* Before you could download individual songs, you had to buy the album. And more often than not, albums were one or two good songs with 8 or 10 filler songs. Remember hearing a cool song on the radio, buying the album, and then sticking it in the closet because it sucks?
* The internet and other technologies have allowed underground bands, cult bands, and new bands more exposure than ever, because many can now afford to record songs, publish them online, and have a web site.
* Albums are often pretentious and self-indulgent. Maybe I don't want to be force-fed your story or experience your concept. I just want to hear a good song.
* I kind of like the idea that music is divorced from the band. All bands derived their material from elsewhere anyway. The idea that a band "owns" a song is kind of silly. Music by everyone for everyone--in whatever order they want--is not such a bad idea. What's wrong with the listener getting involved in the creative process? Sorry Metallica.
* I don't really get the point about ring-tones. Who's really going to replace their album collection with a bunch of goofy ring-tones? If that's how you want to spend your $3, knock yourself out. There's still plenty of us who like real music.
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I love it that all these people are making their own music, even if plenty of them are performing and recording a bit before they're ready. Same goes for writers and painters and photographers and practitioners of other arts. Those who are committed and work at it and pay at least some attention to what their audiences can tolerate -- they'll probably get better. Many will drop by the wayside or go on to other things.
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Posted by: NIKUZAI on Nov 21, 2006 6:36 AM
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You read far too much into it. If you are trying to say that Crazy Frog is inidicative of the decline in quality of pop music, then I agree. But the reason for that is ever so simple - more people are buying the sort of music that you would run a mile from. Personally, I think that more morons are buying music - it has been made easier for them to do so - due to the 'progress' afforded by modern technology, they can now buy their ridiculous musical choice as they no longer have to contend with the disapproving look from record store staff. Yes, the internet makes it easy for me to buy whatever music I want; unfortunately it has also enabled a million MOR morons (should that be MORons?!) to get their music easily too.
Yeah, I'm a snob and slightly offensive with it; and you might ask who am I to look down on what other people listen to? Well, I agree that it's an issue of personal taste - that should have been the logical conclusion to this article. But while I agree it is a matter of personal taste, I don't think anyone can ignore the fact that music has deteriorated just when it has become easier to get hold of music (if this gets responses along the lines of "but what about The Killers?" or "what about the Artic Monkeys" I will just laugh (insanely, probably for a million years!)).
So, the question I think that the article should have posed is whether the internet and the 'democracy' it has offered has been for the good or bad of music - discuss!
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Nov 21, 2006 7:14 AM
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When we're all stuck in the FEMA camps, I wonder if they will play all these ring tones over the loudspeakers... so we can all sing along:
beeeep (Born)
beep (in)
beep (the)
beep (U)
beep (S)
beep (A)
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Posted by: madmac10 on Nov 21, 2006 7:29 AM
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Hey, I have as much respect for instrumental proficiency as any of you--and believe me, I hate most of those nasty-ass, narcissistic ringtones as well. But this "throw the baby out with the bathwater" mentality just makes the noise all that much uglier. Why contribute to ugliness instead of seeking out beauty? I have found such beauty in this corporatized, mechanized landscape that most posters here would gladly cordon off.
A little while back, while riding the Metro to work one moring, there was a clatzch of youngsters huddled in the back all playing their phones together. It was rudimentary, and cacophonic (many other passengers began huffing in disgust,) but something about it was --beautiful! I heard an echo of early man banging on rocks and logs, trying to evoke the Goddess; I heard the birth of SOMETHING NEW!
As Picasso said, the true artist will paint in the dust with his tongue. Y'all better recognize them as they paint all over your world.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 21, 2006 8:51 AM
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And, the "music" itself: honestly, how can anybody call something music that consists of clumsy, simple-simon couplets delivered in tone-deaf style with a monotonous, primative beat, endlessly repeated nearly the same in piece after piece, and with a bone-rattling, hearing-damaging bass level that blows over the top of every other sound? The next logical step from this, I suppose, in a pop culture world having absolutely no knowledge of, or interest in, either the rich history of music or even the quality of sound itself, would be ring tones.
The question is: where does the cruise down Mediocrity Lane (with a "drive by" or two...) lead from here? Will we be back to hisses, grunts and the occasional fart as "musical" expression fit for the masses, simply because it would be "new," having not been tried for, say, 500,000 years or so? Will the day come when the music of the Beatles, Stones, Eagles, etc., is considered highbrow and pretentious, simply because a completely dumbed-down populace cannot understand the complexity of that music's melodies or lyrics? The mind reels at the thought.
In short, where IS the bottom? We've come through (rather, are still experiencing) a period where rap and hip-hop "stars" shoot and kill each other (when they're not in jail) and glorify killings by their followers (Funny, I just don't remember the Beatles/Stones rivalry resulting in any deaths – did I miss something?). Now we're in a period where many young pop-music followers have cell phones in their ears so much of the time the phones are beginning to attach themselves, and are talking, talking, talking all of the time; but listening, or learning, very little.
Intellect, curiosity and intelligence are being buried by the smart-mouth Age of Trash Talk; how much lower can we go from here? And will that place be a world any of us would want to live in?
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So remember that your music is inherently different from other people's music because you are different from other people. As such, relativism is a wise course.
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Posted by: goatini on Nov 21, 2006 10:10 AM
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if someone else prefers stupid noises, what should I or we care?
the author's point on IPod tune shuffling divorcing ppl from the actual music, i think, is kind of silly. if a kid got hip to Sinatra and has "Summer Wind" in his random IPod play, i think that's good in and of itself. it matters not to me if the kid doesn't pore over Frank's Reprise catalog in minute detail.
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Posted by: doinaheckuvajob on Nov 21, 2006 11:12 AM
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Gross? No grosser than most hip hop. When you can shout 'n' rhyme in a paint by numbers manner about your id run amuck while 'sampling' (stealing) bits from other records, you don't have to think in terms of melody.
So, if you can't hear melody in music, perhaps ring tones will help bring them back from the wilderness of scratch and shout. That wouldn't be so bad, would it? A little extra noise pollution on the street from ring tones in return for a rebirth of melody consciousness sounds ok to me.
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Posted by: vangogh69 on Nov 21, 2006 12:43 PM
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As far as the general decline of music, whew, i guess if we're talking about pop culture, then the music could use some help. This has more to do with a general trend in all art at this time, perhaps an offshot of post-modernism or the general "dumbing down" of American culture. However, many people (here and) the world over are making exciting music/art and one could find the stuff fairly easy if one was so inclined.
Even then, though, I'd defend popular music a bit which is, if you really listen to SOME of it, a bit complex (take Beyonce's "Ring the Alarm", which is a bit genre-bending, not entirely harmonious, and quite aggressive...not an easy song to pin-down). Sure, much of it is formulaic, but even in the "mainstream" people are trying to do cool things (thinking of Justin Timberlake's "SexyBack" or anything by Missy Elliot).
I don't believe ringtones are destroying music per say, but it is furthering the post-modern contextualization of music, something which takes sole ownership out of the hands of one individual, puts it in the hands of many, and dare I say it, socializes the experience. The downside to this is we lose the context for certain pieces/songs, and they lose the full weight of their meaning when placed in this a-historical setting. Tihs is also the result of consumerism and how, in order to be a consumable product, a certain "anesthesia" (sp?) must take place.
My two cents.
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Alternet fancies itself a serious voice in "progressive" politics where progressive apparently means recycling the same 5 stories, or variations therein, every singe day. Thanks to Alternet's, uhm, thorough 3-month coverage of the '06 midterm elections (complete with hourly Foley/Haggard updates) we're all well aware that Pelosi & Co. are going to extricate us from Iraq while taking out the trash up on the Hill.
What we rarely get, if ever, are well-researched articles that are germane to the average reader. The imminent collapse of the US housing market, and corresponding collapse of the dollar don't have the same media sex appeal as abortion or Israel but you can bet your ass they are going to affect readers far more profoundly than the media misread of Pelosi's endorsement of Murtha. We rarely hear anything about deficit spending, NAFTA, the gutting of America's industrial complex, etc. Time to get serious Alternet. Time to step up and tell us why this kind of thing is happening:
"Also, according to Marketwatch, “US residents purchased a net $22.9 billion in foreign securities, up from $2.7 billion in August. Foreign holdings of dollar-denominated short-term securities, including Treasury bills, fell by $10.8 billion.”
Inquiring minds want to know why the upper crust is eschewing domestic investments in favor of Euro/Asian and even Latin American bonds. Why is Dick Cheney's money tied up in Europe despite every outward declaration that the anemic greenback is holding its own? You don't want to leave Americans without a chair when the music stops do you Alternet?
Alternet writers love to point out how they pick up on stories the MSM neglects. Lucky us. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings; a compelling story about Blackberries?
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Posted by: insulaparadigm on Nov 21, 2006 9:33 PM
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Classical music in particular and Jazz take years of devotion that cannot be doubted. But their marketing towards youth still sucks. Outside of that - education on these forms is poor too and lack of funding towards the arts in schools might
contribute to the death of these art forms.
Besides it also took a lot of money to put "crazy frog" on top of the charts. I'm listening to the song on napster now and it's driving me insane so I have no idea where this rambling is going. Anyhow for the ultra-traditionalists toward music - gripe all you want - it's not helping the music you appreciate one bit.
Things just fill in anyways - try - just try to match beats on a set of turntables.... or even just beatboxing. sorry gramps but it's actually hard - I'll try the violin over turntables (talk about an instrument that only the best should play)
pop and techno etc sure has a lot of crap but the cream does rise to the top - and even disney bred pop crap like britney -
behind the star with little talent is an army of studio musicians or producers who have put in the years.
Computers can do almost anything include simulating classical instruments. They make almost anything difficult to do manually easier or even automatic - but the question is up to the composer - every person with a camera may capture what's in front of them but they aren't photographers and their efforts won't be reproduced or acclaimed.
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On the grounds that it stimulates the brain
We've done him one better in the land of coke & honey
Using music to put people's brains to sleep
Ever wonder why commercial radio's so bad?
It's 'cause someone upstairs wants it that way
If the Doors or John Lennon were getting started now
The industry wouldn't sign 'em in a million years
-Jello Biafra
Pop music is meant to be stupid in order to tranquilize the masses. Shure, the value of music is subjective up to a certain point, but there are limits. I don't care what people listen to in the comfort of there own homes, but why should I constantly be subjected to other people's garbage. After being FORCED to listen to the inane dribble from the radio at work for hours on end it will start to have a negative impact on my cognitive abilities. Pop music is meant to be bad (of course there are some exceptions). It is supposed to provide a hook that will immediately satisfy the listener with minimal involvment, but will grow old quickly. Jazz doesn't sell because it will take several listens just to start to get into an album. Every subsequent listen will provide the listener with something new. This is not good for record sales. Music needs to be reduced to a disposable product to generate maximum profit. There is no need for singles when every lick is part of a rich tapestry and it is hard to say what the "best part" is. The appreciation of true art one of the best ways to rebel against consumerism.
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Posted by: twerquie on Nov 22, 2006 10:23 AM
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You seriously sound like someone's grandfather complaining about the price of stamps.
The future isn't just going to slow down because you are unhappy about the direction it's taking. The benefit of the ubiquity of portable media devices and digital compression is that ANYONE can make music and as long as people like it, they can access it. Cut out the middle man and deal direct with your audience. If you can't see that that is an enormous boon to all musicians, then you really are doomed to sighing over the loss of the mono-recorded 8-track for eternity.
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http://www.slowsix.com/words/A_Memory_Of_Music.pdf
Best,
Christopher Tignor
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Posted by: sabresong on Nov 25, 2006 4:11 AM
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I'm also a poet. As a poet, I can respect the talent of rap and hip-hop artists. As a musician, I respect the rythmic intricacies of those same artists. I don't like that sort of music, it's not to my taste. But it is a valid art form.
But this article, arrogant though it seems in several of the points it offers, isn't about rap, hip-hop or any viable art form. It's about the continued desecration of that art in the interest of profit by the corporate giants. Whether the ringtones are art or not is irrelevant. The fact that anyone willing to sell their rights to their own creations and personalities, whether completely original or expanded from the works of previous artists, can become an instant pop-star, while the rest of us who try to retain control of our own creative processes are relegated to the local club scene is indicative of a popular misunderstanding of art in general. Talent, it seems, is less important than marketability.
A most excellent band here in my city has recently undergone personnel changes, resulting in a dramatic loss of sound, creativity, originality and ultimately following, in the interest of marketability.
Music is the most powerful force known to man, and is original form of communication. That it has become nothing more than a marketing tool, that the true musicians in ALL forms of music are lost to the whims of a population whose musical preferences are less chosen than dictated, is a sad commentary on modern humanity. It's the church-dominated middle-ages music mentality all over again, with the RIAA and its bedmates more powerful than the Pope ever was.
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Posted by: blitzmesser on Nov 25, 2006 2:09 PM
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Ring tones really help people to appreciate great music.
"Da da da dah, da da da dah...."
Or
"This is the symphony that Schu-u-ubert never finished....."
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Posted by: Mr. Heathen on Nov 27, 2006 9:10 PM
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For a while, we will still have our own burps and farts.
Those will eventually cease too.
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