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The War Crimes Case Against Donald Rumsfeld

By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted November 13, 2006.


Although Bush has immunized Rumsfeld and others from prosecution in the International Criminal Court, they could be tried in any country under the well-established principle of universal jurisdiction.
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As the Democrats took control of the House of Representatives and were on the verge of taking over the Senate, George W. Bush announced that Donald Rumsfeld was out and Robert Gates was in as Secretary of Defense. When Bush is being run out of town, he knows how to get out in the front of the crowd and make it look like he's leading the parade. The Rumsfeld-Gates swap is a classic example.

The election was a referendum on the war. The dramatic results prove that the overwhelming majority of people in this country don't like the disaster Bush has created in Iraq. So rather than let the airwaves fill up with beaming Democrats and talk of the horrors of Iraq, Bush changed the subject and fired Rumsfeld. Now, when the Democrats begin to investigate what went wrong, Rumsfeld will no longer be the controversial public face of the war.

Rumsfeld had come under fire from many quarters, not the least of which was a gaggle of military officers who had been clamoring for his resignation. Bush said he decided to oust Rumsfeld before Tuesday's voting but lied to reporters so it wouldn't affect the election. Putting aside the incredulity of that claim, Bush likely waited to see if there would be a changing of the legislative guard before giving Rumsfeld his walking papers. If the GOP had retained control of Congress, Bush would probably have retained Rumsfeld. But in hindsight, Bush has to wish he had ejected Rumsfeld before the election to demonstrate a new direction in the Iraq war to angry voters.

Rumsfeld's sin was not in failing to develop a winning strategy for Iraq. There is no winning in Iraq, because we never belonged there in the first place. The war in Iraq is a war of aggression. It violates the United Nations Charter which only permits one country to invade another in self-defense or with the blessing of the Security Council.

Donald Rumsfeld was one of the primary architects of the Iraq war. On September 15, 2001, in a meeting at Camp David, Rumsfeld suggested an attack on Iraq because he was deeply worried about the availability of "good targets in Afghanistan." Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill reported that Rumsfeld articulated his hope to "dissuade" other nations from "asymmetrical challenges" to U.S. power. Rumsfeld's support for a preemptive attack on Iraq "matched with plans for how the world's second largest oil reserve might be divided among the world's contractors made for an irresistible combination," Ron Suskind wrote after interviewing O'Neill.

Rumsfeld defensively sought to decouple oil access from regime change in Iraq when he appeared on CBS News on November 15, 2002. In a Hamlet moment, Rumsfeld proclaimed the United States' beef with Iraq has "nothing to do with oil, literally nothing to do with oil." The Secretary doth protest too much.

Prosecuting a war of aggression isn't Rumsfeld's only crime. He also participated in the highest levels of decision-making that allowed the extrajudicial execution of several people. Willful killing is a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions, which constitutes a war crime. In his book, Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib, Seymour Hersh described the "unacknowledged" special-access program (SAP) established by a top-secret order Bush signed in late 2001 or early 2002. It authorized the Defense Department to set up a clandestine team of Special Forces operatives to defy international law and snatch, or assassinate, anyone considered a "high-value" Al Qaeda operative, anywhere in the world. Rumsfeld expanded SAP into Iraq in August 2003.


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Marjorie Cohn, a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, is president of the National Lawyers Guild, and the U.S. representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists. Her new book, Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law, will be published this spring by PoliPointPress.

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Donald Rumsfeld is 74 and probably not planning on travelling outside the US much
Posted by: LeftWright on Nov 13, 2006 12:29 AM   
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I'm sure this German lawsuit is only the beginning.

We're in for some very interesting times.......

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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» A continent-sized prison... Posted by: tuxperger
BUSH, Cheney and RUMSFELD Should all be put in Jail
Posted by: thinkverybig on Nov 13, 2006 1:36 AM   
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IMPEACH BUSH and put them ALL in JAIL....

BUSH makes my freaking stomach turn.

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WAR CRIMES and MORE CRIMES
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 13, 2006 2:57 AM   
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The very fact that George W. Bush felt the need to immunize his administration from being persecuted for war crimes is proof positive that the murderous little bastard knows damn well that war crimes have indeed been committed. Hell, let's impeach him for that alone!

Here's another thing we need to come to terms with: Donald Rumsfeld didn't "resign", he was fired. Bush and Cheney know damned well that very soon Donny Boy will be forced to raise his right hand and tell the whole ugly truth about Iraq and the lies the administration told the American people to get us there. They know damn well that it'll look better for them that the testimony come out of the mouth of an "ex" Secretary of Defence than a sitting one, if you catch my drift.

The irony of it all is the fact that had Bush made the announcement of Rumsfeld's "resignation" on munday morning instead of stupidly waiting until wednesday afternoon, he probably would have been able to hang on to the Senate. Does this guy even have as clue as to how stupid he looks?

The dye it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now will later be fast
As the present now will later be past
The order is rapidly fading
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are 'a changin

Bob Dylan 1963

tick...tock...tick...tock...Let's now begin the count down of the hours leading to the complete destruction of the sick and disgusting Bush presidency. America will hang its head in collective shame while it watches the first former president of the United States hauled off to federal prison in an ox cart.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» The "LINE" It it drawn Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: WAR CRIMES and MORE CRIMES Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Progressive dreams! Posted by: Conservasaurus
Careful, Miss Cohn
Posted by: Scott Griffith on Nov 13, 2006 5:25 AM   
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Careful, Miss Cohn: don't let your weakness for alliteration blind you to the sources of Shakespearean quotations. "The lady protests [or doth protest] too much, methinks" is from Hamlet, not from Macbeth.

My former English teacher's moment aside, please keep up the pressure on Rumsfeld. The US badly needs to make an example of him.

Scott Griffith.

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Don't Kid Yourselves
Posted by: sofla100 on Nov 13, 2006 5:45 AM   
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We have to be honest on this one, no matter what the Europeans do, the USA isn't going to do a thing with Rumsfeld. They will never turn him over to any foreign country or international court. If necessary, GW Bush will even sign some kind of executive order/clemency before leaving office to protect Rummy and fellow cronies. As for the Europeans and international treaties and laws, GW Bush couldn't give a rat's ass about them. If anything, he probably thinks it's kind of fun to thumb his nose at them. You will also see that this matter will continue to get minimal attention in the US press and media. That is the way it is.

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» unfortunately, correct Posted by: cold2touch
» insightful post, laoma Posted by: cold2touch
If Rummie goes to jail, don't forget to send Blair and Clinton to keep him company
Posted by: Bobsays on Nov 13, 2006 7:04 AM   
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Basically everything you accuse Rummie of doing wrong, Blair and Clinton have done. In fact, most of Europe's leaders will need to join him as well.

Good luck trying to get that one through!

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Why don't we just give Rummy the Medal of Freedom?
Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 13, 2006 7:36 AM   
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I must be stooopid, but could someone pleeese explain how President Bush could immunize Rumsfeld from being tried in an INTERNATIONAL court? And, if by some manipulation of agreements this is possible, WHY it is allowed by other governments?! Do we, the country that doesn't make anything anymore, still hold that much power in the global economy?

As for Rumsfeld ever actually serving time.... That is another matter, especially if he never leaves the good ol' U.S.A. – although even being tried in absentia would be worthwhile psychologically.

(By the way; I've heard a rumor that thanks to possible foreign prosecution over Vietnam, Henry Kissinger doesn't leave the U.S. – any truth to that rumor [which I doubt]?)

Nancy Pelosi has stated that "impeachment is off the table" for Bush and Cheney, so I guess all of these war criminals are just going to be allowed to skip away with their loot. Boy, wouldn't the Founding Fathers be proud of what we've done with their dream....

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» Impeachment off the table??? Posted by: badkitty
Come on people!!! Big Business will never let this happen . . .
Posted by: JCR on Nov 13, 2006 8:32 AM   
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The primary reason that Rummy the Butcher, Dumya and The Dick won't be prosecuted is because they all enjoy the unequivocal support of corporate America. It's quite touching the way Alternet readers like to throw around "subpoena power" while naively ignoring what they already know: there is only ONE ultimate power in the US - BIG BIZ. If Exxon, Wal-Mart, Halliburton, Pfizer and Northrup say no then the answer is no - it's as simple as that.

The US government and Big Biz have been in bed together for some time now and their grotesque progeny is a Prozac pushing, weapons dealing, Jaclyn Smith wearing pimp eating a Big Mac behind the wheel of a Hummer; and Bush, Cheney and Rummy created them. What makes you think they are going to turn on them now?

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Don't forget Wolfowitz, But Pelosi is the new problem
Posted by: common intelligence on Nov 13, 2006 9:22 AM   
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Yah, Rummy's guilty, Wolfy too! But he was immediately sheltered and of all involvement, and put in charge of the"World BANK"?
Now don't forget Chenny either. Details here aren't immortant as realizing Pelosi is weak. Saying that "impeachment is off the table", as if it ever was. The media never expounded on that. But more so, When the Military Commisions Act (MCA) was "passed" without any but one protest from Patrick Leahy, I knew again that as a leader of the party Pelosi caved in again. Why is it the demo Senate was never interested in initiaing a Fillabuster at the 11th hour of congress, before recessing for campaigning? Whether or not Reps. retaliated with the "nuclear Option" would not make a difference. Fore it would have sent a strong signal to the American people of the blatent, underhanded cover up of the guilty. Those I'm afraid might have very well included some Demo,'s too, otherwise why wouldn't the illegal protection from war crimes been grounds enough for not passing the MCA.
This was all strategicly planned to unfold just as it did. Not for the right to torcher terrorists but to protect the domestic enemies here at home. Namely, The GWB Clan!

So here is Pelosi whom will be distracted, from assuring these kind of liars are made accountable from crimes of the highest kind are dealt with. For at the for front of the new congress and political battle for credability, is a new higher priority. That being to show some metal in the "new direction" in protecting Americans from enemies abroad and security of the people at home. All this on top of a heavy load of a new 2 year campaign to win the presidency in 2008.

So think. IS there really a chance these GWB's will be made accountable? I don't think so. They are getting off the hook.
Nancy is the same as Bush in regards to not listening to the will of the people.

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don't forget, Rummy is complicit in the 9/11 attacks
Posted by: kellysgarden on Nov 13, 2006 10:58 AM   
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He knew the missile was going to hit the Pentagon BEFORE it hit. He also was aware of the many mock war games going on that were simulating hijacked aircraft hitting into buildings.

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Rumsfeld reminisces on his tenure as Secretary of Defense and Logician
Posted by: Cousin Jack on Nov 13, 2006 11:14 AM   
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Rumsfeld reminisces on his tenure as Secretary of Defense.
“One has to look back at the past with compassion. What
one has done, is what one has done. What is not done, is still
undone, but what is done is done. Had I not done what I inevitably had
done, I would have left it undone. That which I had done, is definitely
done, and that which is not done, is apparently undone. The world can only
judge me on what I have done, and what is left undone. To judge me
for anything beyond what is done or undone is to do, that which is doable,
but not necessarily undoable. I am a doer, and have done. I hope the
press is done.”
He then quotes the late great Sir Winston Churchill.
“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function
as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.”
When leaving his office last week, some say Rumsfeld was heard muttering this,
“When your up to your A in Alligators, it’s hard to remember the initial objective
was to clear the swamp.”

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» Did he really say all that? Posted by: WhatNow?
» RE: Did he really say all that? Posted by: Cousin Jack
Look, Pelosi Already Squelched Rep. Conyers!
Posted by: sofla100 on Nov 13, 2006 12:06 PM   
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You have to look at this from the point of view of the number of hands in "the cookie jar." Pelosi and Hillary both get loads of campaign cash and "favors" from banks, corporations, oil companies, and the assorted cadre of K Street scum lobbyists. So, what does this mean? In Iraq, tens of billions of dollars are unaccounted for, and this isn't even counting the cost overruns and slip-shoddy work. Now, first look at the banks, they provide and are underwritten by billions in loans to defense contractors. Defense contractors sub-contract out work to dozens of companies; GE, HP, etc. They spread out the work essentially to "scoop up" as many Senators and Reps as they can. Major stock holdings and control of these companies is in the hands of a few percent (2-3 at most) of the richest people in America. Now, Iraq was and still is a fantastic money maker for them. So, you think they are going to "let" a Pelosi or a Hillary or even a Kennedy "rock the boat?." They may let them do a few show investigations for political purposes and to showcase the "democratic process." But, at the end of the day, nothing of consequence will happen. Nobody is going to be prosecuted. One of the first things Peolsi told Rep Conyers (one of the very few without hands in the "cooke jar") is that talk of any impeachment of GW Bush was "off the table." So, we should all realize what that means.

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WE SHOULD APPEAL TO THE LEADERS OF THE WORLD
Posted by: ccBallagh on Nov 13, 2006 12:09 PM   
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we should appeal these war crimes to all the leaders of the world for it would only take one to put all of them in jail; because of the hypocrisy of our rotted democracy they cannot be tried in america, this article should have been crying oiut to other countries for help, for i too hope the german lawsuit is the beginnning,

while we have snubbed our noses at the world, will they save us from these corrupy disgusting leaders in crime??

my freind is in the marins- ha has told me of these interogations or 'pressure' this article only lists a few of these-- my freind confided in me that he has seen fellow officers MOLEST the children of suspects IN FRONT OF THEM to get possible answers to criminal activity. AND THIS IS A WAR THAS HAS ZERO TO DO WITH OUR SECURITY AT HOME! EVERY SINGLE HUMAN WHO CAN READ THIS AND DOUBLETHINK THERE WAY OUT OF THESE CRIMES DESERVES TO BE TREATED WITH THE SAME DIGNITY AND RESPECT AS OUR LEADERS TREAT OTHER HUMAN BEINGS!!!

THIS ADMINISTRATION IS AN OUTRAGE!

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Looking for confirmation . . . Anyone?
Posted by: JCR on Nov 13, 2006 12:32 PM   
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Found this on IC (Information Clearinghouse) and was somewhat skeptical. Is there anyone out there who can or has located other credible sources to confirm this?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15582.htm

"William S. Lind, Director for the Center for Cultural Conservatism for the Free Congress Foundation, assures us in his latest article “Iraq Disaster Warning” that “something big’” will happen “between Nov 7 congressional election and Christmas. That could be the long-planned attack on Iran”.

Dr. Elias Akleh supports this theory in his article “War on Iran” providing the worrisome details of the military build-up currently taking place in the Gulf beyond the knowledge of the American people. Akleh states:

“The US and NATO countries had amassed the largest military armada in the Middle East. The US armada consists of carrier Strike Group 12 led by nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, Eisenhower Strike Group—another nuclear powered aircraft carrier with accompanied military vessels and submarines, Expeditionary Strike Group 5 with multiple attack vessels led by aircraft carrier USS Boxer, the Iowa Jima Expeditionary Strike Group, and the US Coast Guard. Canada has sent its anti-submarine HMCS Ottawa frigate to join the American Armada in the Persian Gulf. On October 1the USS Enterprise Striking Group has crossed the Suez Canal to join NATO armada at the eastern shore of the Mediterranean Sea.

The NATO force is composed of troops and naval vessels from several countries and is lead by Germany. It includes German command naval forces, Italian navy, 2 Spanish warships, 3 Danish warships, 10 Greek warships, 2 Netherlands warships, and French, Belgium, Turkish, and Bulgarian troops in South Lebanon.”

Akleh adds ominously, “This is the largest massing of military power in the region, and it is gathering for a reason.”

Indeed."

Has it occured to anyone that this election went off a little too smoothly for the Dems? I understand that there was an obvious backlash in response to government abuses and scandal but a mere 50K stolen votes spread across 20 districts and about 5K in Montana and Virgina could have prevented all this? I don't know but something is not right. Rummy was dismissed after rather than before the elections and some sleazy Repubs were let to stay on tickets until it was too late. There also appear to be some pretty center-right Dems in this latest batch. No one will sponsor an honest 9/11 investigation and not much, if anything, has been said about dimantling the police state Bushco has constructed. Indeed only Leahy spoke out agains the Military Commissions Act and Hillary is talking about sending yet more troops to Iraq. I don't know about you but something stinks to high heaven here . . .

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The Damage is Done; the Culprits Are Done With Donald
Posted by: edith on Nov 13, 2006 2:03 PM   
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I understand the sincere outrage against Rumsfeld. I've read books about Nazi and Soviet prisoners, torture in Chile and Argentina, brutality of both Israeli and Arab secret police against each other's citizens. Disgust is my emotional reaction to torture.
Furthermore, the idea of "life" sentences for "enemy comabtants" is intolerable for any society, even if authoritarian, that values due process and reasonable doubt.

Those of you who want revenge(or justice as you see it) against Rumsfeld and his crowd shouldo consider the disadvantage of judicial punishment versus political punishment. I do not have the expetise of the author here, so I will assume that some court somewhere could try Rumsfeld if by a miracle he were hustled off to a jail and courtroom somewhere and the US didn't prevent the trial.

In that event, with a conviction, the blame would fall on him and perhaps on Bush and Cheney. As the doors of a hypothetical prison slammed on Rummy, I can hear the sighs of relief throughout the Pentagon, CIA, White House staff, NSA, Negroponte's NDI, Special Forces and State Dept Bureau ofIntellilgence: "They've got the goat!"
Time to roast Piggy!

Nor is Rumsfeld is martyr material for the MIC; witness his hasty exit when W decided the dude was attracting too many flies. No one will weep for him, hijack prisoners to release him or mount a Free Rummy campaign on talk radio. His incarceration will deter no one. If anything the next Rummy will simply keep his mouth shut unlike donald's sado-masochistic relationship with the press to which he would eject jabs like a puffed up prickly balloonfish.


But the causes of the Iraq War will continue regardless of Rumsfeld's death or imprisonment,natural or not. Those who brought you fifty or more years of MidEast conflict, the confrontation with Iran and the wheeling dealing of US investment bankers and big corporate lawyers with multinaitonals here and abroad run free and bright young JD's and MBA's are in the shadows ready to swipe the Old Man's briefcase should he fall down or be pushed down the marble steps. Of course, our bought and paid for Congress will keep on giving to those who gave.

You can capture and execute Satan; you will never eradicate evil. the struggle always continues, and those who live off the naivete of the American people to dominate other nations will be so happy to divert the focus of attention on the now useless Rummy and perhaps his former partners in crime, dual citizen Douglas Feith and the lupine, drooling Wolfowitz.

As for Cheney, he will swallow an overdose of cyanide like Himmler and Goering before anyone tramples on his Final Days.

And as for the Duke of Crawford, well there is protection for people incompetent to understand the proceedings against them. You can drown your kids in a bathtub in Texas and walk; you drown the nation in malapropisms and you get a Library, immunity, and a secret service guard.

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DU behind the surge in Cancer rates in Iraq
Posted by: rwa on Nov 13, 2006 2:56 PM   
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Aljazeera:
In 1991, Washington and its Persian Gulf War allies used armor-piercing shells made of depleted uranium as the Iraqis retreated from Kuwait.
Up till now, the battlefield remains a radioactive toxic wasteland -- and depleted uranium munitions remain a mystery despite many studies and many attempts by scientists to fully discover its secrets.
In military applications, when alloyed, Depleted Uranium [DU] is ideal for use in armor penetrators. These solid metal projectiles have the speed, mass and physical properties to perform exceptionally well against armored targets. DU provides a substantial performance advantage, well above other competing materials. This allows DU penetrators to defeat an armored target at a significantly greater distance. Also, DU's density and physical properties make it ideal for use as armor plate. DU has been used in weapon systems for many years in both applications...
Once DU round strikes a solid object like a tank, it bursts into a burning spray of radioactive dust, which can remain on site for years.
Many reports and political experts confirmed that the U.S. and British troops fired more than 940,000 depleted uranium projectiles during the 1991 conflict.
The Pentagon refuses to clarify the exact effects of depleted uranium, but Iraqi doctors attribute the significant increase in cancer and birth defects in the region to the U.S. and British troops’ use of DU.
Many researches conducted outside Iraq, and by several U.S. veterans organizations, suggested that depleted uranium could have played a role in Gulf War Syndrome.
The U.S. is believed to have used 320,000 tons of depleted uranium during the Gulf War alone. Also British Armed Forces used depleted uranium in some of its ammunition.
Iraqi doctors reported significant growth in cancer and birth defects during the period between 1991 and 2003; the period of the two wars the country fought and in which the U.S. and the British forces were involved.
It was during these two wars that such weapons were used; which led to the noticeable growth in cancer and birth defects in Iraq.
In 2001, the World Health Organization (WHO) released a study on depleted uranium after serious doubts emerged over its damage to health.
The study claimed that depleted uranium had very little risk of spreading.
But a scientist who had worked for the WHO at that time later stated that another study that was kept concealed from the public contradicted WHO’s claim, and that it asserts that depleted uranium can cause cancer.
In an interview with BBC Radio 4, Dr. Keith Baverstock, who worked on the published study, said that Depleted uranium inhalation has geno-toxic effects on DNA.
"When you breathe in the dust the deeper it goes into the lung the more difficult it is to clear. The particles that dissolve pose a risk - part radioactive - and part from the chemical toxicity in the lung - and then later as that material diffuses into the rest of the body, and into the blood stream, a potential risk at sites like the bone marrow for leukemia, the lymphatic system and the kidney," Dr. Baverstock said, adding that this study was excluded from the report released earlier by WHO.
British and American troops in Iraq today continue using depleted uranium weapons ignoring the deadly impact it has on civilians’ lives and health.
It had also been revealed that the Israeli occupation army used uranium in the recent offensive Lebanon.
Cancer rate in Iraq has increased tenfold, and the number of birth defects has multiplied fivefold times since the 1991 war. The increase is believed to be caused by depleted uranium.
Many scientists sought to investigate these events, but Washington is blocking any attempt to inspect the aftermath of the war.
Also the U.S. refused refused to cooperate with the United Nations on the issue.

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I hope you all are wrong
Posted by: WhatNow? on Nov 13, 2006 4:25 PM   
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The Centre for Research on Globalization has been speculating an attack on Iran for probably more than 2 years. Luckily they have been wrong so far and I hope they continue to be wrong.

I think the one the biggest reasons it has not happened is because it will be bad for alot of business since our economy is so dependent on oil. Not attacking Iran (yet?) is the only wise thing I think the bush adminstration has done. An attack could be devastating to the world economy and I think the adminstration knows it. That and the fact Iraq is proving to be a real pain in the ass for bushco seems to be the most important reasons those lunatic neocons haven't attacked Iran.

It's hard to believe the bush administration has any reason but maybe they have a thread of it.

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If we reallly expect change, hold the Dems feet to the fire
Posted by: Timothy Green on Nov 13, 2006 9:03 PM   
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I don't enjoy being a cynical curmudgeon, but it is hard to ignore what is right in front of my face. I have very litttle hope that the Dems will effect any real change in course, UNLESS WE the PEOPLE are unrelenting in our demands of them. Pelosi's comments following the election that " Democrats will lead with integrity" was difficult to accept as anything more than typical political disingenuousness. I think we should take her at her word- and raise hell if she, or other Dems display anything less than exemplary representation of their constituents.

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One set of rules....
Posted by: Zemiti on Nov 14, 2006 6:12 AM   
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If you want to cut the pervasive and obviously odious influence of big business in American politics, now is the time top do it!; if you want to establish universally accepted and respected body of laws held together by generally accepeted agreements, now is the time to do it, instead of having and upholding one set of laws for the US and its allies and another for the rest of the World!; if you want to restore America's eminent standing of respect and dare I say of trail blazing trend setting in the world, impeach Bush, Rummy, Wolfie, Dickie et al now, we know who they are and what they did, Congress must start getting busy now!; impeachment is not about revenge, it is about correcting and reversing all the rot of the past 20yrs, it is about the public taking back ownership of the politics, direction and influence of Government instead of it being directed by a powerful few, it is about lessons learnt by the public on the unsavoury conduct of its politicians and sending a resounding NO, it's enough!, on their conduct, this impeachment is about upholding and restoring democracy and creating avenues and means of ensuring that this sort of abuse and manipulation of power, the public's minds and sentiment never happens again, this impeachment is about BIG men being held accountable for their actions and taking responsibility for it, this impeachment is about clean Government and decent values being upheld, it is also about ensuring that the world is safe for ALL of us to live-in in peace and security without the threat of targeted death, and being able to travel without fear anywhere in this world. It is about finding the true American spirit, and this is the window of opportunity to discover and connect with our real soul. Try Bush and his cronies in the US, the International Court of Justice and anywhere else where their abuses have resulted in loss of human life or degradation of people's value and dignity. It is not allowed in the US by law, why tolerate it because people in the US Government do it? What message is being sent out to the World community and what precedent is it setting? Impeach and prosecute now, it will do alot of good in the future going forward!!

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