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How to Stop the November Elections From Being Stolen

By Don Hazen, AlterNet. Posted October 30, 2006.


Progressive Democrats are saying, "We need to get people to the polls in large numbers, win big and protect the vote counting to make sure that the congressional elections are not stolen on Nov. 7."
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"We can't let the machinations of possible electoral problems prevent us from getting to the polls in massive numbers; in fact, it is an argument to get even more people to vote, so that the majorities are foolproof." -- Robert Greenwald, producer, director "Iraq for Sale" and "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices."

Emotions are running high as the midterm election approaches, and polls show Democrats are ahead in many key congressional races. Less than two weeks before the Nov. 7 election, the latest Associated Press-AOL News poll found that likely voters overwhelmingly prefer Democrats over Republicans.

Voters are angry with President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress, and say Iraq and the economy are their top issues. In the poll, 56 percent of likely voters said they would vote to send a Democrat to the House, and 37 percent said they would vote Republican -- a 19-point difference. Only 12 percent of likely voters say they are enthusiastic about the administration. The percentage of those who say they are angry with it has grown to 40 percent from 32 percent in early October."

In the light of such overwhelming poll numbers, Democrats and progressives sense the opportunity to win back at least one of the houses of Congress, perhaps both, ending the iron rule of the Republicans. But -- there is a big "but."

The hope of many Democrats for success on Nov. 7 is sharply tempered by still-fresh memories of perceived Democratic victories turned into defeat in 2000 and 2004. Even more disconcerting is the fact that since 2004, there has been overwhelming documentation of voter repression and fraud. The result is that many believe that past elections have been stolen, and efforts to prevent people from voting -- especially minorities -- have been successful.

Voter protection groups gearing up

In the face of the fear about what might be in store come election day, a veritable cottage industry of voter protection/election reform groups and coalitions has emerged. It includes ElectionDefenseAlliance.org, Do More Than Vote, VerifiedVoting.org and the Velvet Revolution, which has developed an Election Protection Strike Team (the Strike Team has offered rewards for evidence of fraud and have a hotline for people to call: 1-888 VOTETIP), and MoveOn.org has a comprehensive progressive voter contact program to reach out to voters.

Other innovative efforts are emerging and ratcheting up their operations for Nov. 7 to protect the vote and stymie the voter shenanigans that have frustrated the country in recent elections, including: Video the Vote, which is taking advantage of inexpensive video cameras and the internet, planning for their teams to be the eyes and ears of the voter protection effort. Meanwhile, Working Assets has created a Voter Protection Immediate Response Network for using text messaging to alert voters of problems where they may send a message about a short and easy action that could be taken -- like get more voting machines to a precinct that is overloaded.

Overcoming the negative expectations

However, part of the struggle leading up to the election is to neutralize negative expectations about voting and counting, as well as increased turnout amidst widespread worries that votes won't be counted or that voters will be turned away at the polls. Ronald Walters, director of the African American Leadership Institute at the University of Maryland, told Ian Urbina of the New York Times:

...[E]pisodes of voter suppression that were dismissed in 2000 as unfounded recurred in 2004 and were better documented because rights groups dispatched thousands of lawyers and poll watchers. In addition, the first national data-tracking tool, the Election Incident Reporting System, offered a national hotline that fed a database of what ended up to be 40,000 problems. This hotline is live for the 2006 election at 1-800-OUR-VOTE.

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Don Hazen is the executive editor of AlterNet.

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Does it really matter?
Posted by: greekTowner on Oct 30, 2006 12:44 AM   
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Both parties are in bed with corporations...it's useless. This is not a democracy. Let's start with campaigns financed with 100% public money and I'll start voting.

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» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: spiritsha
» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: rsaxto
» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: symcokid
» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: Ellie1
» RE: Vote GREEN Posted by: Snott
» RE: Vote GREEN Posted by: Gma1
» Cantwell is Republican Light Posted by: Douglas
» Look Before You Vote Green Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Look Before You Vote Green Posted by: aonghus36
» Sounds good in principle... Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Sounds good in principle... Posted by: aonghus36
» Here's the plan Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: mkeeling@jam.rr.com
» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: Ahimsa
» RE: Does it really matter? Posted by: logansafi
» RE: Does it really matter?/YES! Posted by: 1984NOW!!!
» Way to be a team player! Posted by: Iconoclast421
» Hear, hear Douglas ! Posted by: LeftWright
This is my biggest fear
Posted by: spiritsha on Oct 30, 2006 12:48 AM   
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that no matter what I do personally, my vote will not count. Living in Tom DeLay's old neighborhood, I have always been aware of how he re-drew the district lines. I know this is our very last chance to change things. If they steal this election, there will not be any Constitutional law, personal rights or justice left in this country. No one will be able to stop Bush & Co's rampage to destroy our government. Everyone needs to vote. Early voting is good, if you can. Go to these website and volunteer to help.

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» RE: This is my biggest fear Posted by: willymack
more
Posted by: rsaxto on Oct 30, 2006 12:48 AM   
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The more Democrats, Independents and fed-up with sleaze decent Republicans that vote, the better will be the chance Democrats will win and end the gross current leadership. And the more watched the polls are, the better will be the chance of legally nulifying another stolen election. See the electoral crimes, document the electoral crimes and prosecute the electoral crimes.

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The voting machine that can't count...
Posted by: edith on Oct 30, 2006 12:54 AM   
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as Prof Walters of U MD is quoted ironically in the article, Maryland is keeping the Diebold disaster voting machines that screwed up its primaries this past August.

Maryland has two critical and close races: Steele v Cardin for the Senate, and Ehrlich(GOP gov who actually wants the machines replaced with paper ballots) v Martin O'Malley the Dem Mayor of Baltimore. I don't know that the machines as set up in MD favor either party. I do know they can't count and they leave little or no trail to audit.

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At least go to the poll and vote for nothing if you don't want to vote
Posted by: scribbler on Oct 30, 2006 4:14 AM   
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If you think your vote won't count or you don't like any choices, don't sit home and gripe. Show that you care about democratic elections by going to the poll, clicking or touching or whatevering on a blank slate to prove you want to vote but don't like the options.

When I was young and self-righteous, I voted for Dick Gregory rather than Humphrey - and many anti-war 60s kids did the same so we got Tricky Dick. This round, in addition to working in a poll to watch and report from the inside for dirty tricks (other than invisible cybertricks), I'm voting straight Democratic to show the Republicans I don't like what they've done on all issues. Even if my vote is rigged. I'll deal with that after the election. If the the Democrats had been destroying our country and the world as badly as the Republicans have done, I'd vote against them too.

If you've ever visited a truly totalitarian dictatorship, you'll understand why I hope we won't sit home and be counted as the indifferent. Make the effort to go to the booth and do something, even if it's a loud, recorded vote for nobody. It's too easy to stay home. Go - and if you can't at least vote against the fat cats, just vote No.

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» Absolutely! Posted by: Zarquan
Why use voting machines?
Posted by: Bobsays on Oct 30, 2006 4:59 AM   
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It still doesn't make sense to me. Other countries happily and quickly count their votes by using volunteers in community halls. It is a great coming together exercise and if you watch say the British elections, highly amusing as various comics turn up as joke candidates to keep everything fun.

I have worked as a spotter to oversee the count, and it is fun to do. Everyone loves the buzz of the votes coming in and you meet interesting people (and even a few babes) when you are doing it. Why do you need machines?

It just seems like somebody is trying to introduce the opportunity to fiddle the election.

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» instant gratification Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
» RE: instant gratification Posted by: BillC
» RE: instant gratification Posted by: Annarisse
» RE: instant gratification Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: instant gratification Posted by: Annarisse
Noah Count
Posted by: NoahKount on Oct 30, 2006 5:24 AM   
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Participation in a basically illegitimate process by many people tends to legitimate it.

I carefully chose candidates & voted by mail in Florida in 2004, sent in my ballot with a return receipt, & never got my green card back. That in itself breaks the chain of custody to a properly counted & coded vote. If you attend election day festivities in Florida you also will not see a paper verification that your ballot was counted properly, though you will get a detailed paper receipt from any grocery store checkout. This is ridiculous!

Nobody has done anything about past election boondogles in 2000, 2002, or 2004. The single party Repuglerats continue to run all elections & hog all debate within their narrow paradigm, and nobody has been kicked out of office in disgrace & into jail for election fraud. Florida 2000 was not even recounted until a year after Bush assumed power. Congress has not held hearings on John Conyers Ohio 2004 election report. Most people in Florida are NOT even familiar with Palast's work on "felon" lists by DBT in the election 2000 fiaso. Katherine Harris is running for Senator here, not president of her jail-cell group.

It is an illegitimate fiasco, and I won't legitimize it by participating. Bush is eliminating your rights, - & one of them is the right to participate in a basically honest election process.

So, go participate in the fiasco, if it gives you a warm feeling inside.

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» True Posted by: JCR
» RE: Noah Count Posted by: SufiLizard
» RE: Noah Count Posted by: NoahKount
» RE: Noah Count Posted by: SufiLizard
» A pox on your democracy, then Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: Noah Count Posted by: Gma1
Make it simple
Posted by: Cousin Jack on Oct 30, 2006 5:51 AM   
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Your name by your vote. No more hidden elections. Popular vote wins; no more elected official (electoral college) voting. They are stealing the people's will. There isn't enough room now at the pulpit in the churches with the Texas Hold-em five. Shotgun Cheney, Bush Whacker, Ron Dumsfeld, Karl Rogue, and Rice-A-Phoney. They are using our money for high-stakes Poker. The time is now ladies and gentlemen, similar to the song "Stand by your Man, "Stand by your Vote." Church people, wake up, the Texas hold-em five are at the pulpit, leaving no room for your God. I am not a religious man, but I do believe in one God. That is my choice, I choose not to believe in a devil. The things that go on between men's ears is all the evil-axis I can handle. Ladies and Gentlemen, I am in this game, as a minority of one, ........so..........as the saying goes, "I AM ALL IN."

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The run to the right...
Posted by: Steve Adair on Oct 30, 2006 6:27 AM   
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This mornings NYT suggests that the Democratic Party is running to the right and abandoning the "profile" of the party. That doesn't make me too excited about 'running' to the polling place.

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» ...or really the center. Posted by: Farragher
» RE: ...or really the center. Posted by: Steve Adair
» RE: The run to the right... Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: The run to the right... Posted by: SufiLizard
» RE: The run to the right... Posted by: Joshua Holland
If other countries would study the history of this USofA ---
Posted by: symcokid on Oct 30, 2006 6:54 AM   
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then they would realize why we are expert at expounding about Human Rights Violations, how we circumvent International Law, the intricacies of the foolproof "Black Box" voting and that Electoral College/Block Votes diminish the Popular Vote to nothingness.

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Vote Democratic or It's The End of America
Posted by: champion on Oct 30, 2006 7:41 AM   
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If DUHbya, the NeoCons, and the Repfucklicans win (steal) the
elections on Nov. 7th, then the end of the American way of life
will be totally snuffed out over the next two years.

It's almost gone as is, with dictator DUHbya, at the behest of his
masters, the international bankers, usurping OUR power with
this phoney "war on terror" bullshit.

The cabal of criminals have taken the Constitution, the Bill of
Rights, Habeus Corpus, etc., and spit all over them and us, ren-
dering them almost useless in their fight against terrorism.

The problem with it is that the enemy is within. The enemy is
themselves, not some Arab or Muslim terrorists. Wake up
people, the government cannot be trusted, NEVER, EVER!

Government(s) only care about their own existence. Money,
power, and territory acquisition through war is all they care
about, period. The international bankers, the REAL leaders
of the world, are turning this nation into their private police-
man of the world.

The more wars that can be started, the more their ultimate
dream of world domination can became reality. With each
country/nation conquered, the resources and the people are
exploited, used, and wiped out, then it's on to the next.

If we don't expose and stop these madmen now, then the
America and the rest of the world will soon be a one-world
dictatorship, run by these monsters with an iron fist.

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Stop being paranoid.
Posted by: Realman on Oct 30, 2006 7:54 AM   
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There should be no debate: Vote.

If and when there are problems, then they must be dealt with.

Letting fear, dismay, frustration, hopelessness, whatever your excuse, trick you into not voting, or even thinking about not voting, is just what "they" (the usually Republican powers that be that want a supressed vote) want.

Just realize that whatever crap they're doing, it does not change the fact that, after all the excuses are made, voting is the best thing left for most of us to do on election day.

Some of us can do more.

Some of us may well find their vote is fraudulently discounted.

But your vote will *never* count if you don't cast it.

Channel those fears into actions to make elections accountable, and into fighting to ensure every vote cast this year is counted.

Fears are useful to tell you what needs doing. Fight. Don't flee.

- Bill

My home page.

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» The clarion call to action Posted by: HeroesAll
» I second the motion. Posted by: Zarquan
“Divine Right of Kings.”
Posted by: shangrilalad on Oct 30, 2006 8:00 AM   
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“Divine Right of Kings.”

Rather than implementing commonsense measures to prevent corruption, the Bush regime and Republican dominated congress has aggressively used intimidation and deceit to ram through regulations and laws that actually do the opposite. Is this due to stupidity and incompetence, or criminal intent?

Consider for a moment that when congress has failed to pass legislation to achieve the rabid right’s agenda, Bush has issued orders to his political appointees in every agency of the Federal government, to implement regulations by Executive Decree. Regulations don’t abrogate laws passed by congress, but Bush has effectively short-circuited Congressional oversight by assuming dictatorial powers. While those who have bestowed on Bush the “Divine Right of Kings,” have no problem with this, half the population has been stripped of their rights in the process.

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Just vote dammitt!
Posted by: AtmeratisX on Oct 30, 2006 8:05 AM   
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I have voted in virtually every local, state, and national election since 1968. I'm sure that over the years my vote has been wasted, lost, miscounted, or whatever, but I still vote in each and every election with the hope that my vote just might make a difference...

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This is representative government?
Posted by: JCR on Oct 30, 2006 8:20 AM   
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This election cycle should be a huge success! Dems (if they aren't cheated) might take control of the House and Senate having already declared their unwillingness to impeach Bush. The war will go on and another 100+ US soldiers and countless Iraqis will die next month and the month after that and . . . .

Halliburton, Exxon, Pfizer, Northrop, Raytheon, Wal-Mart, etc. will continue to get rich and pay off "lawmakers" and the wheel will go 'round and 'round. Oh right, I forgot - Dems don't do dirty and they really stand up for what they believe in: like rolling over for Republicans when voting overwhelmingly in favor of going to war after which they point and say "see, I told you so". Yes they are a bunch of tigers! Rrroowwww.

This election day hype is nice and all except we still use the antiquated electoral college, have a PATHETIC two-party system which ostensibly represents the interests of over 300 million and campaign finance that makes government the plaything of Wall Street. How about a parliamentary system (with proportional representation) where Republican senators actually have to forge alliances with Greens, Civil Libertarians and Dems? Electoral college - need I say more? Campaign finance, soft money, hard money, slush funds? What the fuck has this country become - the United States of Special Interests? Rhetorical question.

The greatest problem is a lack of actual "representation" and "accountability". Remember what that means? You're going to elect corrupt Dems and Repubs who will pay great lip-service but on November 8th, ACCOUNTABILITY goes out the window. They go on doing as they please and that is nobody's fault but John Q. American who doesn't honestly give a shit what is happening out there. Yeah some wring their hands and curse but at the end of the day it's back to letting the soft glow of garbage TV wash over them. Republicans, Democrats or men from mars won't change anything until the American people grow a spine (and brain as the case may be) and make their collective will a reality. Our problems have nothing to do with the party and everything to do with American ambivalence and complacency.

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» RE: This is representative government? Posted by: mkeeling@jam.rr.com
537
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Oct 30, 2006 8:31 AM   
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So often when I'm in a moderately crowded theatre, store, train, whatever... I find myself looking around and thinking, 537 votes... 537 votes...

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» RE: 537 Posted by: Glennk1949
Video the Vote
Posted by: redjenny on Oct 30, 2006 8:57 AM   
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Vote, but more than that, get involved in the election process.
Watch this short video: Video the Vote

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Childsong and Frankenstein's Monster
Posted by: xbj on Oct 30, 2006 9:01 AM   
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Offered PURELY in the spirit of the season:

"Lizzie Borden took an axe,
Gave ES&S touchscreens forty whacks,
When she saw what she had done,
Gave old Diebold's forty-one"

A visit to the polls with axes, pick axes, pitchforks, and torches would end computer voting forever.

If not then, City Hall in the morning once the phony vote tallies describe the "'amazing' 'unforseen' 'unlikely' 'incredible' 'against-all-possible-odds'" GOP sweep of every race, including Lieberman, the GOP poster-child for war whoring and war profiteering as usual.

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Voter fraud is easy to find
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Oct 30, 2006 9:05 AM   
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Simply take a poll after the election asking those who voted who they voted for. If a candidate who won by slightly over 50 percent ends up with 45 percent on the poll (with a margin of errror of 3 percent), you have uncovered the fraud.

This system will root out electronic fraud, ballot box stuffing, miscounting, etc. The key is to get the brain-dead media to recognize sleeze for what it is. I have a sense that it's going to take mobs in the street to get their attention.

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Statistical impossibilities have always prevailed
Posted by: grmc1 on Oct 30, 2006 9:30 AM   
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It is statistically impossible for right wing governments to become elected. Just take this forum as an example. How many posts support the GOP. I don't want to hear excuses about it not being a true random sample etc. That is rubbish. If the supporters of these crooked regimes really existed among the populace (as opposed to the privaleged) they would be in here in their droves. They aren't here because they don't exist. There are a few paid trolls but even they cannot spread themselves thinly enough to get the coverage they need to be effective. Face it elections are always rigged. There is supposedly about half the population supporting each of the two major parties in almost every western so-called democracy. This is statistically impossible. The vast majority in these countries are the poor and underpriviledged. Do you really believe they are voting for their oppressors so they can oppress them some more, or stay at home because they cannot be bothered? Hardly. They do vote and they vote against the right wingers but the elections are rigged. It is that simple. The only real election is the type they had in Venezuela when Chavez was finally accepted as the true winner after his opponent tried to claim he had won. The people spoke by assembling in the streets. These were very brave people though. At the previous election they had tried the same tactic but the military came out shooting, killed many and frightened the rest off. This time the military refused to shoot so the game was up. What the US military would do in the same situation I don't know but testing them is the only way to get rid of this mob.

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vote?
Posted by: revolutionary80 on Oct 30, 2006 9:56 AM   
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After the 2000 election I gave up voting and why not I came to the realization that my vote didnt count and it doesnt as long as there is an electoral college your votes dont matter. A person in California's vote means more than someone in Louisiana how fair is that? Having said all that I will be at the polls in November because my dad is running for coroner. As long as Diebold is running the show your vote is meaningless. The only way to get what we want id to overturn the system.

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» Then just die Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: Then just die Posted by: edith
» Nice one, edith! Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: Nice one, edith! Posted by: revolutionary80
Immediately after the election, the lobbyists swarm in
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 30, 2006 10:45 AM   
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Let's say that both the House and the Senate fall into Democratic hands - they won't have any excuse for not holding hearings into the wide variety of crimes & cover-ups committed by the Bush administration, at the very least. We might even see laws for transparency in government contracting arrangements of all kinds, from military to industrial to academic.

Even if that happens, you can expect the lobbyists who work for the firms that donated to the campaigns to come rushing in full-speed right after the election, arms full of bills written by company lawyers that they hope to get passed. If short, remember that the first few months after the election are very critical - being complacent is probably not a good idea.

As far as electronic voting goes, there is no reason for official vote counts to ever be sent over the internet or phone lines. If you have an optical scan machine counting voter-marked paper ballots, there are very secure and robust procedures to make sure that the count is accurately reported.

What they involve are a 'counting chip' that an quickly be tested for accuracy (as in a gambling casino or in a bank money-counting machine); the optical counting machine burns two compact discs with identical copies of the data; one disk stays locked in the machine and the other is transported to election headquarters. The paper ballots are stored in case a recount is needed.

While we're wishing, how about instituting an instant runoff voting system? Then the Greens and Libertarians could vote for whoever they wanted, and pick a second and third choice. The top two candidates in the intial round of voting then get the second round votes; thus a voter who chose Green 1st, Democratic 2nd would still have their vote count Democratic.

Still, go and vote. If the exit polls are high enough in the Democrats favor, than the Diebold crowd will look foolish when they claim Republican victory. It's in the closely contested races that they're likely to use the electronic 'switch the vote' approach.

http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/ - Electronic Frontier Foundation

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The real irony of all this. . .
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Oct 30, 2006 10:45 AM   
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Mark Crispin Miller had a series of very well-done articles on this in the last two issues of "The Washington Spectator" (in conjunction with his new book on election fraud).

One thing Miller suggests that I think is very likely; if the Democrats DO manage to take back one or both houses of Congress. . .the !@#$%^&* Repugs are going to start screaming "ELECTION FRAUD!!!!" at least in enough "close" races to conceivably undo the results and leave them still in control of the Senate. The sheer irony of this simply boggles the mind. . .but if we've learned anything lately it should be NEVER to underestimate the sleazy depths to which these evil monsters are willing to sink.

Let's hope that the Dems can manage to garner a majority in the House. . .cause at least then they can start investigations and issue supeonas. . .maybe expose some of the shite that the press has so willfully ignored these last six years.

There's a fine line between hopeful optimism and naiveté; I'm trying not to hold my breath. . . still, a people needs to dream!

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CHENEY WON'T HAND OVER POWER...
Posted by: ignition on Oct 30, 2006 11:28 AM   
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...after putting the pieces in place for a police state. The War Party has a one time only chance to impose their dictatorship. They will not hand over power to the Democratic party because of losing an election. Go to today's edition www.globalreserch.ca and check out the article called "Bush moves toward marshall law" by Frank Morales. Also read www.antiwar.com for daily updates.

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» MARTIAL, NOT MARSHALL... Posted by: carcinoid112
» RE: MARTIAL, NOT MARSHALL... Posted by: ignition
» RE: MARTIAL, NOT MARSHALL... Posted by: fifthworld
Now That The Dems Are Coming . . .
Posted by: JCR on Oct 30, 2006 11:52 AM   
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Happy Day, Happy Day - The Dems Are Gonna Make It All Go Away . . .
Happy Day, Happy Day - The Dems Are Here To Save the Day!

Glory hallelujah and praise the pagan gods! The Democrats fought tooth and nail to keep us out of Iraq but the evil Republicans wanted it so badly that the Dems had no choice but to roll over and say "yay". Dems are gonna give health insurance to every boy and girl and then they're gonna strip the corptocracy of power like the just and upstanding "lawyers" they are. I'm all aquiver with anticipation of the forthcoming revolution!! I think I can already feel corporate America easing its death grip on the neck of the American people - can't you?

We as Americans don't actually have to do anything but vote Democrat and all the ills of our corrupt society are just gonna dissipate like so much mist after the sun comes out. What a breath of fresh air it's going to be! Hallelujah brothers and sisters!! Americans can sit on their ever-fattening asses (no different than the last 30 years) and bitch and moan about really important things like the price of a gallon of gas for their Ford Exxon SUV or Paris Hilton's sex life. In the meantime Enron pensioners still haven't received a penny and another 200K acres of rainforest will burn.

Yes just sit back and enjoy the slaughter as the Dems exact their pound of flesh from the dark lords and the best part is you don't actually have to get involved personally. The angelic Dems are your elected leaders in this two-party paradise and have YOUR best interests at heart. I mean John Kerry has a net-worth of 500 million - just like you and me!! Yes I can finally sleep soundly at night knowing the Dems are going to be toiling away to raise the minimum wage 30 cents and get us out of Iraq - just as soon as they figure out how to sneak the oil out . . . Sigh - It's just peachy isn't it?

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Bush vs. Jesus
Posted by: babs on Oct 30, 2006 12:48 PM   
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hey all you would be voters - came across this nugget this morning. Maybe those 4 mil Xtian voters who supported Bushco in 04 will be changing their votes too. Junior just can't keep all his frothing constituencies happy I guess - and that is better news for America I reckon.

"Welcome to BushRevealed.com! This website serves as notice to Christians across this nation that President George Bush over the past few years has compromised his "Christian faith" by promoting evil and openly supporting wickedness. It is our hope and prayer that he would Repent and turn from such blatant sin. He is not our friend and cannot be trusted. "

the last line is the most telling - and the world agrees.

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VOTE!! VOTE!! Cynicism and apathy is why we have
Posted by: 1984NOW!!! on Oct 30, 2006 5:12 PM   
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the administration we do. IF YOU NEVER VOTE AGAIN, VOTE
THIS TIME, VOTE DEMOCRAT and some GREEN where it doesn't matter.

I just heard in the news that there are 14,000 U. S. issue rifles missing in Iraq. THE BLUNDERS CONTINUE and our soldiers are dying for nothing and the world is in chaos.

VOTE!! VOTE!! To make this administration accountable.

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Vote Red Vote Blue
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Oct 30, 2006 5:24 PM   
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and elect the same guy. Having just watched the classic, and hilarious, movie "Moon Over Parador" I couldn't help but think of how the movie's voting scene was applicible to the US elections.

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Just flush
Posted by: guerillaTHOUGHTterrorist on Oct 30, 2006 5:37 PM   
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The comedian Lewis Black once said that "the only thing dumber than a Republican or a Democrat is when these pricks work together," which is precisely what these hacks have been doing for years. With the illusion of a fight between these two parties has grown cynicism and apathy in this country, but a vote for either of these parties is a vote that is cast away unless on truly knows the actions or agenda that these people are running on. After the votes are cast, these pricks seldom report back to their constituents until it is time to secure their job yet again in this circus of false promises and hopes. The people need to stand up and recognize that there needs to be accountability or else these politicians are able to get away with just about anything.
Voting to get someone out of office is just as dangerous as voting along party lines. There is no difference, as in both cases we are just choosing to throw our votes away yet again. How long has it been when we have had a leader rise among the people? The last president that actually might have changed something was taken out by this country's very own power structure. Since then, we have had nothing but a string of worthless, narcissistic losers who just value the sound of their own voice, empowered by the spotlight to say whatever needs to be said to gain office. Anyone who is persistent in invoking a change in our sociopolitic arena are just cast away as subversives, crackpots, socialists, and it won't be long if this trend continues, that they will be detained as terrorists. I love this country, but I'm scared to death of the government which is the surest sign that the people who we have elected to represent us, and protect us from harm, are the very ones who are perpetrating this wrong upon the American people.
As a people, we need to rise and take out the power structure of the government at its very foundation. We need to demand that elections are no longer polluted by corporate money. We must demand accountability. In essence, we have to hold their jobs hostage until they can appease our demands, not theirs. The government should be working for us, yet they seem to be only working for themselves which just shows that our government has turned toxic, and the only way to actually change anything is to flush all of these turds right down the toliet.

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» RE: Just flush Posted by: Realman
Of course we vote
Posted by: opeluboy on Oct 30, 2006 6:01 PM   
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But we should do it with the certainty that our 2 party system is basically a joke, that our choices of candidates are dismal, that the populace is ignorant (due in large part to a complicit, agenda-driven media) and has no grasp of the issues, and that the Repugs will be doing their best to corrupt the process and steal the vote.

But I will vote. Best I can do until the revolution comes.

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» RE: Of course we vote Posted by: HeroesAll
DESPITE MY EXTREME CYNICISM I WILL VOTE
Posted by: jsw on Oct 30, 2006 8:30 PM   
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Though most democrats simply represent a kinder, gentler fascism and imperialism it may slow things down enough so we can start dealing with real threats like global climate change which are going to make things like Iraq and Katrina seem like minor issues.

Interesting how the voter machine flaws and other voting problems ALWAYS seems to favor the most repulsive republicans. There is only one conclusion to this fact but what will be YOUR RESPONSE if they do steal it AGAIN? We need to find creative and effective ways of raising hell immediately and collectively or we do not deserve to have a Democracy. Look at what's happening in Mexico. Remember "V" is for Voting and if they steal it "V is for Vendetta"

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What will you do?
Posted by: ScottP on Oct 30, 2006 9:46 PM   
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Assuming that the GOP steals whole states like Georgia that are paperless, and enough electronic precincts in the mixed states, what will you do? You wake up Nov. 8 to the same old story: "the polls were wrong again", "GOP retains Congress", "precinct x had more votes than registered voters", "historically Democratic county votes 80% GOP", etc.

Perhaps this scenario will not play out, that's certainly my hope. But there's a good chance this will be the most blatantly stolen election in memory. So will you act surprised like a deer in the headlights, or are you planning your protest? Will you be in the street with the well prepared sign you had ready, or will you sit in your kitchen moping?

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This is all very sad - why? Because
Posted by: fifthworld on Oct 31, 2006 7:39 AM   
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the Repubs are going to keep control. There is no way around it, with the machines. I'd even take monetary bets on it - that way, I can't "lose"! : ) But really. be scared if Bush says confidently, answering some question or other a couple weeks ago, "because we're not going to lose". He said that in 2004, and then we all watched in disgust and dismay as the early Kerry lead switched to a small Bush lead, in a wink, while Bush sported a huge red-faced smile (and probably a woody) among his family. Why wouldn't it happen for Congressional elections? Remember the "6 Billion Dollar Man"?? (if you're old enough): "WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY"!!

I'd also add, gratuitously, what the major economists already know, that [Democrat or Repub Congress] there will almost definitely be a global economic collapse within 24 months. Listen to Joe Stiglitz if you have questions on that. So we're basically fucked for a good while, but we've had it coming. Living with corporate capitalism/government was a dead end from the start and we're living on borrowed time, economically and otherwise.

Cheers!

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