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Round Population Numbers Fuel the Immigration Scare

By Christopher Hayes, TheNation.com. Posted October 24, 2006.


Even though anti-immigration activists like to trot out population figures to support closing the borders, we should really be concerned with the number of cars -- not people -- in the U.S.

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If there's one thing the media loves, it's a nice round number. Unless you had chosen this week to play Henry Thoreau, you probably noticed that the United States population passed the 300 million mark at some point in the last few days. Local newspapers rushed to declare one of their own the 300 millionth soul and nearly every media outlet from NPR to CNN to The News Hour devoted air time to explain to the their viewers What It All Means.

All the attention brought into high relief just how absent demography is from our routine political discussions. Well, with some notable exceptions. On October 18, I got an e-mail from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) with the subject "300 Million and Counting!" -- complete with the obligatory black-and-white photo of a crowded city street at rush hour: Hell is other people. "Can the U.S. sustain this continued increase in its population or will this growth suffocate a once thriving nation?," the e-mail asked. It wasn't really a question.

It's a strange quirk of the anti-immigration movement, that while the base is animated largely by xenophobia, the leadership, like FAIR, Numbers USA and others are driven by the far more esoteric concern of population growth. Much of this is the legacy of John Tanton, the eccentric, brilliant opthamologist from Petoskey, Michigan who founded FAIR and pretty much single-handedly started the modern anti-immigration movement. Tanton's worldview was formed at a time when demography was a major concern, thanks to Paul Ehrlich's landmark book The Population Bomb, which predicted the world was about to breed itself out of existence. As the United States' native-born birthrate leveled off in the 1960s, Tanton turned his attention to the source of the nation's continued growth, which was propelled by immigrants and their offspring. The rest is history.

So that explains why Dan Stein, head of FAIR, was everywhere last week, from MSNBC to the op-ed pages of USA Today making the case that 300 million was an ominous milestone and the culprit was our porous borders. For FAIR, the rare spotlight on population growth was a golden opportunity to make their case. "Overcrowded schools, congested highways, environmental stresses: We are a nation paving over its wildernesses while depending on our enemies for vital resources," Stein wrote in an editorial in USA Today. "Why? Because Americans have been blindsided by a government-mandated mass immigration program that's fueling this nation's runaway population growth. This growth was neither planned nor expected, but we feel the consequences every day."

Stein's partly right. There is little official policy that sets out an ideal U.S. population, but images of crowded streets and traffic jams aside, the fact remains that the US is still a very big place, and relatively sparsely populated. With thirty-two people per square kilometer, the U.S. ranks 172nd in the world in density. Amsterdam and South Korea, just to name two, are each more than ten times as dense.

But of the world's richest nations, the United States is also the only one with a robustly growing population. Most of Europe has been caught in a much-discussed population drought, a birthrate so far below replacement rates that countries like Italy and Spain could lose half their population in the next fifty years. But thanks largely to higher birth rates of America's immigrants, the U.S. faces no such problems.

Is that a good thing? There are arguments on both sides, but ultimately it's the wrong question. Some in the anti-immigration movement point out the environmental effects of the increased resource consumption come from increased population, but if that's your concern, there's no reason to wall off the United States and let, say, Mexico slide into environmental ruin. And while it's true that once people come to the US they burn a lot more carbon, that logic would also imply that it's a good idea to keep the rest of the world poor, which doesn't quite seem fair. The fact is that population growth isn't really a problem for the US. As one environmentalist told me, "It's not that we have too many people -- we have too many cars."

Of course, you can't very well win elections or raise much money demonizing cars. Groups like FAIR figured that out long ago.

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Christopher Hayes is a contributing editor of In These Times and the Chicago editor of Just Cause magazine.

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Well, they do have a point!
Posted by: Temporary on Oct 24, 2006 12:12 AM   
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The system couldn't even handle a 100-million people without a SEVERE CRISIS! What makes you think it could handle 300-million???

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aging Labor force and migrants
Posted by: yellow on Oct 24, 2006 12:28 AM   
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One of the big stories behind the immigration issue is the country's aging Labor force. Over the next five to twenty years the baby boomers, one of the wealthiest generations to date, will be retiring and the native born birth rate is quite low. What this adds up to is labor migration from all over the world including Mexico to take up the slack. There is widespread agreement on this issue among many experts. More than half of all newly created unskilled jobs since 2005 have been taken by immigrants. They are spurring economic growth in certain new and growing sectors of the US economy. They are heavily present in services, agricultural labor, some residential construction, certain parts of what's left of the domestic manufacturing sector like food processing, household and industrial chemicals, and beverage bottling, resturaunt and hotel industries, meatpacking, and landscaping. Many of these jobs were created for immigrants without whom they would be offshored or not created at all. Agriculture is especially dependant on immigrants as California is now learning. Proposition 187 has caused California growers a third of their harvest in some areas because of the labor shortages that it has caused at this vital time. Its time for the hysteria to stop. These folks are a vital part of out society legal or not!!

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» Migrants and Subsidies Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Migrants and Subsidies Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: Migrants and Subsidies Posted by: yellow
world population
Posted by: rsaxto on Oct 24, 2006 1:01 AM   
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The relevant question is - is the world as a whole overpopulated? My answer is yes. It is yes because we are burning too much fossil fuel and consuming too much of the world's other resources. It is yes because we are causing too much pollution. It is yes because there are too many unhealthy people. It is yes because we are causing too much global warming whose end point is hell on Earth. It is yes because some people are starving. It is yes because aids and other diseases are spreading to kill the surplus. It is yes because the surplus population is stimulating wars. Mother Nature says what the fuck are you thinking and what the fuck are your brains for? Smarten up or die.

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» RE: world population Posted by: edith
» RE: world population Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: world population Posted by: albrechtkrausse
Why worry about 10 million immigrants in a country of 300 million?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 24, 2006 1:25 AM   
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People hike hundreds of miles on foot across the Sonoran desert to get into the US because their situation at home is so much worse. Ever wonder why all the Western Unions have large signs in Spanish? It's because the immigrants all send money home to their families (WU gets a tidy cut).

If we ended NAFTA and quit supporting the right-wing anti-democratic groups in Mexico and Central America, you'd see living conditions in those countries improve to the point where people wouldn't be desperate to leave. That would mean that US agribusiness wouldn't have a place to dump their surplus crops.

Well, why doesn't US agribusiness go into biofuel production in a big way instead? That'd solve the agricultural surplus problem - but then the oil companies would scream bloody murder about losing market share in the transportation fuel business.

If you combine that with fewer cars, which are more fuel-efficient as well, then what you get is a nice big drop in demand for fossil fuels. That would make the Saudis and Chavez and Mexico and Canada so very unhappy - the Saudi Royal Family might have to cut allowances back to $50,000 a month for all it's members - and then how could they fund radical Islamic 'charities'?

Anyway, Cheney is invested in Vanguard, who is heavily invested in the oil majors, so don't hold your breath waiting for anything to change soon.

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» You're ignoring NAFTA, the real culprit. Posted by: thoughtcriminal
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Ponzi Scheme
Posted by: Wanda GM on Oct 24, 2006 1:31 AM   
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Arguments for more immigration are Ponzi schemes. More young workers to keep America "young" produces more old workers tomorrow. Then what? Another round of even more young workers? Get a brain, America.

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» RE: Ponzi Scheme Posted by: CajunCountry
» RE: Ponzi Scheme -- Exactly!! Posted by: Pat Kittle
Funny, illegal immigrants are rampant in MN, MT, and the Dakotas but no complaints !
Posted by: NDnative on Oct 24, 2006 4:13 AM   
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Ah but who cares, right? As usual, small populated states save MN get written off anyway !

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Ah, the "nothing can/should be done" argument
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Oct 24, 2006 4:11 AM   
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For a rational look at legal vs. illegal immigration from a liberal perspective, please read the article posted below (from the Boston Globe, Oct. 16):

Two kinds of immigration
By Andrew M. Sum and Paul E. Harrington   
DEBATES OVER immigration have intensified over the past few years, but the nation's understanding of how immigration affects the economy has not kept up. Both those who want to liberalize immigration laws and those who favor severe restrictions have often provided incomplete or misleading analyses of how current practices affect the nation's labor market. These commentators also often fail to distinguish between the more favorable economic impacts of legal immigration and the more negative consequences of illegal immigration.
The overall effects of new immigrant inflows from 2000 to 2005 on American labor markets are unprecedented. Between 2000 and 2005, the total number of employed workers 16 and older in the nation increased by 4.8 million. Over the same time period, the number of new immigrants entering the nation and finding work was estimated to be 4.13 million. This means that new immigrants accounted for 86 percent of the total gain in employment that the nation experienced over the past five years. Our analysis suggests that close to two-thirds of these new immigrant arrivals were unauthorized. Among males, all of the net growth in employment between 2000 and 2005 was attributable to new immigrants. This extraordinary finding casts serious doubt on the common contention that new immigrants simply take jobs that Americans do not want. Can anyone seriously claim that, of the nearly 2.8 million new jobs obtained by male immigrants, not one would have been taken by an American male?
Worse still, the impact of this displacement of native-born workers and established immigrants was concentrated among young people. The total number of native-born people ages 16 to 34 has increased over the past five years, while the number of these young people who reported being employed has fallen by 4.2 million. At the same time, the number of new immigrants ages 16 to 34 who found work between 2000 and 2005 increased by 2.7 million.
Available evidence shows that there has been a high rate of displacement of younger, native-born male workers and younger women without four-year college degrees by newer immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants. Our own statistical analysis of native-born adults under 25 revealed that higher inflows of new immigrant workers in their state of residence hurt their ability to find jobs. The negative effects were larger for young men than for women, for young adults with no postsecondary schooling, and for native-born black and Hispanic males. Not surprisingly, we found that young, native-born men with fewer years of schooling were the most adversely affected by new immigrant inflows.
The notion that there is a shortage of unskilled, low-educated workers in the United States and in Massachusetts is a canard. The evidence -- ranging from employment rates to measures of changes in annual earnings, weekly wages, and employee benefits -- reveals a surplus of less- educated workers in both national and state labor markets. The lifetime earnings of adults without high school diplomas over the past 25 years have declined catastrophically, and these declines have imposed increasing fiscal burdens on the rest of the taxpaying public.
Illegal immigration has also contributed to the growth of off-the-books jobs and the breakdown of American labor laws. [see Pt. 2]

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Ah, the "nothing can/should be done" argument Pt. 2
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Oct 24, 2006 4:15 AM   
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Illegal immigration has also contributed to the growth of off-the-books jobs and the breakdown of American labor laws. Over the past five years, only one of every five additional workers in private-sector jobs in the United States has ended up on the formal payrolls of national private-sector employers, where payroll and income taxes are withheld and workers are protected by laws regarding workers' safety, health, and wages.
A number of employers and consumers gain from the hiring of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration makes home remodeling, lawn care, housecleaning, child care, and other household services cheaper for more affluent homeowners. Some firms in construction, low-wage manufacturing, and the hospitality industry avoid immigration laws, wage and hour laws, and safety and health regulations to reduce labor costs and raise profits. Yet, these gains come at a price: declining employment and wage opportunities for some of our most vulnerable workers, denying them an opportunity to improve their long-run economic prospects.
Future debates over immigration reform need to clearly distinguish between the economic benefits and costs of legal and illegal immigration.

Andrew M. Sum is the director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University. Paul E. Harrington is associate director.  

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I'm a liberal BUT...
Posted by: helgerry on Oct 24, 2006 4:30 AM   
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Yes, I think of myself as a liberal but let's be honest: there is an overpopulation problem and there is an illegal immigration problem... So let's stop finding clever ways to skirt around it because we're afraid to give ammunition to the conservative side.
See, this is the problem when you start looking at critical issues such as global warming, overpopulation and illegal immigration (which are all linked by the way) in terms of right versus left, conservative versus liberal, democrat versus republican. As "enlightened" as us liberals think we are, we still can't seem to avoid getting trapped in this game (the same goes for so-called conservatives as well).
When will we have the courage to rise above partisanship and face those serious issues which cannot be ignored for much longer?
Which would you rather have as a problem to deal with: overpopulation or underpopulation?

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» RE: I'm a liberal BUT... Posted by: symcokid
More People = Fewer Cars???
Posted by: JCR on Oct 24, 2006 5:46 AM   
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"Even though anti-immigration activists like to trot out population figures to support closing the borders, we should really be concerned with the number of cars -- not people -- in the U.S."

Well that makes sense. More people = fewer cars right?? I grew up in a farm community and I can assure you of this much: immigrants - legal and illegal alike manage to buy cars and burn gas. What a poorly thought out argument.

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» Poorly thought out response Posted by: decembrist
» @&%$ Posted by: decembrist
Amazing how stupid people are....
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Oct 24, 2006 7:01 AM   
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What's amazing is that the big corporations and banking elite have successfully integrated the 'left' and 'progressives' into supporting their plan against the middle-class and against the working-class by injecting the possible label of 'bigotry' or 'racism' into the argument over unlimited, illegal immigration. You think we have ANY chance of correcting the ills of the wars, money manipulation, enviromental problems, and corporate greed if we allow a bunch of people, many uneducated and/or illiterate, who used to outright corruption, abuse, and 3rd world conditions in their own country? Good luck. America, despite its almost fascist laws and conditions now, seems like paradise to them. You think we can successfully de-militarise the attitude of the gov't? Well, you know we already recruit illegals into the military. This afternoon go drive around your city. Notice where the Junior ROTC programs are. Funny, how they mainly seem to be in the High Schools serving the hispanic and immigrant community. I saw a Junior NROTC a the local middle school. You think you'll keep abortion legal? Well, most Mexicans polled are against it as well as the Catholic Church. You think you'll be able to keep your guns, well, Mexico has VERY strict gun laws and so their citizens are used to it. You think you'd get marijuana legalised for medicine, personal use, or fuels? Nope, the drug gangs and the law enforcement industry makes way too much money in it being illegal. You think we'd get more free speech or habeus corpus back? When Mexico has never had it? But, anyway, I guess once we integrate with Mexico and Canada and our currency is devalued even more, we have no habeus corpus, our roads are all tolled, and our wages sink, and our enviroment is ruined we'll be so much more 'multicultural' so it will be heaven.

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Set your Way-Back Machine to 1826
Posted by: CajunCountry on Oct 24, 2006 7:39 AM   
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Exactly the same 'agri-biz' forces who thought slavery was indepensible...same song; different verse.

Oh, and I mean those mill owners in 'progressive' Lowell and in London, too.

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When you start with a lie...
Posted by: YogiBear on Oct 24, 2006 8:49 AM   
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Even though anti-immigration activists

Anti-illegal immigration. We continue to correct you on this point, and you continue to mischaracterize the stance. Do you all work for the Bush administration or something?

If there's one thing the media loves, it's a nice round number.

If there's one thing the Alternet loves, it's a strawman.

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» Obviously no straw man needed Posted by: decembrist
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» The bigot here is you Posted by: YogiBear
» ^$@^^@ Posted by: decembrist
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» Quote me, please Posted by: decembrist
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» ++++ Posted by: decembrist
Easy solution and yes, pop. growth IS a problem
Posted by: kiatoa on Oct 24, 2006 8:51 AM   
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To those want to close the borders, isn't rigourously enforcing the existing laws on not hiring illegal aliens enough? If you can't get a job because the laws make it tough then coming to the US won't be attractive.

As for population growth, the big issue in my mind is really the impact on quality of life. If people value the open spaces and wild places then an ever growing population will clearly erode qualitly of life.

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@&%$&%&%$@
Posted by: decembrist on Oct 24, 2006 11:44 AM   
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Two things need to be done in the U.S.:

(1) Protect our environment, and conserve our wild places.

(2) Lead the way in limiting consumption, waste, pollution and establishing a sustainable society while lowering population.

Of course, it's a wish-list - especially with the thugs we have in our government. And I realize I'm arguing from a difficult standpoint - being an American I'm part of a tiny part of the world's population that consumes the most, wastes the most and pollutes the most. But I think this statement by the author is a false choice and overly simplified:

Some in the anti-immigration movement point out the environmental effects of the increased resource consumption come from increased population, but if that's your concern, there's no reason to wall off the United States and let, say, Mexico slide into environmental ruin.

It's obvious why we would want to limit the negative impacts of immigration (and a growing population). It means a better quality of life and a healthier environment - it's our home, isn't it? Limiting immigration does not equal "letting Mexico slide into environmental ruin." However, keeping our present wasteful lifestyle and leading the world into environmental ruin is not fair at all. The world needs less people living a fat and piggish American lifestyle, not more. I believe there's nothing wrong with being concerned with high immigration numbers while at the same time striving to lead a simpler, less wasteful life. And the author touches on that, although he doesn't really develop it into a full thought and at the same time presents immigration issues as simply black and white. He touches on this point when he mentions that we should be worried about automobiles more than immigrants. We ARE the most wasteful society on earth, with the most automobiles - if you're truly worried about the fate of the earth, you should start with your own harmful habits.

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» Good points Posted by: tlCampbell
More misleading info--
Posted by: SamFox on Oct 24, 2006 1:00 PM   
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The lead story leaves out "illegal" when saying FAIR was started to oppose 'immigration', the usual deception. Then there is the name calling, a tired diversion.

For more info on ILLEGAL immigration & serious problems caused by many of them, go to

ImmigrationsHumanCost.org and NewsWithViews.com

At NWVs enter 'illegtal immigration' in the site search box near bottom of page.

Mexico's double standards: First it is felony & two years in prison to be illegal in Mexico. But illegal entry into the US is encouraged by the Mexican Gov. Second-Mexico got the US Marshall's Office to arrest Dwayne the Dog Chapman, The Bounty Hunter, and two of his men. These guys brought down Andrew Luster, a violent serial rapist who was hiding from prosecution in Mexico. Mexico wants to have them sent to Mexico for trial. At the same time Mexico is home to 1,000s of felons wanted in the US, many of them murderers. They refuse to extradite these serious criminals but want to put Dog & Co. on trial. Go to TheBountyHunter.com

Then there is the hippocracy of the US Gov who put two BP Agents on trial for doing their job. They even gave immunity to the drug smuggler! Go figure.

SamFox

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Amsterdam
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Oct 24, 2006 7:21 PM   
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I'm protesting formally against the sloppiness of an article in which "Amsterdam" is a country. Has The Nation hired undocumented immigrants as copy editors? Doesn't Alternet get to second-guess such mistakes?

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» As dense as The Nation? Posted by: eddie torres
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Pat Kittle
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Oct 26, 2006 10:39 AM   
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I've long admired the Left for its defiance and exposure of corporate corruption.

Unfortunately, my respect for Left diminishes every time some pompous fool spouts off on ecological matters of which he/she knows nothing. The Left is ultimately just as responsible for mass suffering as the greedheads it opposes.

We are in the worst ecological catastrophe in 65,000,000 years! That is the overwhelming reality of our time, and we'd STILL be in the worst ecological catastrophe in 65,000,000 years even if every American, the entire white race, and the richest 5% of everybody left disappeared right now!

If other species were going extinct 50% above the background rate, that would be horrific.

As it is, other species are going extinct 100,000% to 1,000,000% above the background rate. Ask the world's leading conservation biologists if you don't believe me.

So please don't give us that namby-pamby knee-jerk liberal crap about "sustainability" and "social justice" until you're ready to deal honestly with ecological reality.

The entire human race is humungously overpopulated, no matter how you try to mitigate it.

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Immigration Is Broke
Posted by: hole11 on Oct 27, 2006 7:50 AM   
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I married twice to immigrants (legal entry) and each time the INS wants me to sign contracts with them and all sorts of queries for my private information. Whatever constitution these people took an oath to protect isn't the same one I took.

Second wife and I had to do the interview twice and still not guarranteed anything. My wife is about to divorce me because I am so staunchly against these little attorney tricks.

One thing is for sure nothing would be happening if I attempted this process all by myself and a wife that is on the edge of seeking divorce just because of these screwed up INS regulations.

The INS is one big racket and it just pisses me off more that congress would allow a Canadian ice skater to go to the olympics as a new citizen while I am set back and have to go through this bullcrap process again. It's been five years since we have been married and already they said she is illegal once. I would like to see any of you or the INS yank my wife from me and call her illegal while I am right around. Not only would you get knocked to the ground but I would knock you clear to your parents european fascist homeland.

Illegal doesn't have any meaning. A criminal is someone who has been convicted. You want to talk about illegal money? You want to talk about illegal take over by the judicial branch with something called an attorney (someone who turns property over to the queen)?

Per constitution if someone came over and stayed five years without any problems (criminal activity) they could become a citizen automatically. Now the way things are they want to make criminals out of us all and give up all our rights.

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