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Pentagon Monitoring Peace Activists' E-Mails

By Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive. Posted October 19, 2006.


"This information is being provided only to alert commanders and staff to potential terrorist activity or apprise them of other force protection issues."

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More information keeps coming out, thanks to the ACLU, about the Bush Administration's equation of protest with terrorism -- and the snooping it then engages in.

Homeland Security is monitoring peace groups and even peering at their e-mails. "This information is being provided only to alert commanders and staff to potential terrorist activity or apprise them of other force protection issues."

It then shares that information with Joint Terrorism Task Forces, which include the FBI and state and local law enforcement, as well as with the Pentagon's notorious Talon (Threat and Local Observation Notice) program.

For instance, an April 12, 2005, Talon document, just released by the ACLU, shows that the Pentagon was concerned about "suspicious activity" at an upcoming event sponsored by the Broward Anti-War Coalition in Florida.

This peace group, according to the document, was planning -- hold your breath here -- "guerrilla theater and other forms of subversive propaganda" at the Fort Lauderdale Air and Sea Show.

The source of the information was the Miami-Dade Police Department, and members of Army Recruiting and the Miami Joint Terrorism Task Force were briefed on it, the document states.

Another Talon document, dated March 1, 2005, released by the ACLU, reveals that Homeland Security agents are monitoring e-mails of such scary groups as the Quakers.

"The source received an e-mail on 25 Feb 05, subject: upcoming peace/anti-war events. The e-mail was from the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) in Northeast Ohio," the document states. And that source is identified as "a special agent of the Federal Protective Service, US Department of Homeland Security." The document adds, "Source is reliable."

The Joint Terrorism Task Force of Dayton, Ohio, was briefed on this one.

The planned activity of the Quakers that so concerned the Pentagon, Homeland Security, and the Joint Terrorism Task Force was this: "On 19 Mar 05, there will be a 'Stop the War NOW!' rally in commemoration of the second anniversary of the U.S. Invasion/Occupation of Iraq. The Akron rally will have a march and reading of names of war dead. ... The Akron march begins at noon and goes past a local military recruiting station and the FBI office. The march will end at the Federal Building in Akron, for a rally, followed by reading of names of U.S. and Iraqi war dead."

A third Talon document, dated March 7, 2005, also relies on an e-mail from the Quakers. "Source received an e-mail from the American Friends Service Committee" about "actions at military recruitment offices with the goals to include: raising awareness, education, visibility." The source is again identified as "a special agent of the Federal Protective Service, U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Source is reliable."

All three Talon documents state at the top: "This information is being provided only to alert commanders and staff to potential terrorist activity or apprise them of other force protection issues."

"Potential terrorist activity." Isn't that delightful?

Word to the wise: If you're a peace activist, the government may be watching you and reading your e-mails.

Something just to keep in mind.

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I'm sure 9/11 truth activists are at the top of the list
Posted by: LeftWright on Oct 19, 2006 12:34 AM   
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Yes, boys and girls, it's me again.

Keeping 9/11 truth front and center, where it needs to be until we get a real investigation.

There are over a thousand facts that contradict the official "conspiracy theory."

Just a few highlights:

1) VP Cheney put in charge of NORAD just before 9/11.

2) The six wargames that were going on the day of the 9/11 attacks. Some of these were live-fly exercises that involved mock hijackings and false radar injects in the northeast air corridor. The total non-response of the Air Force for nearly two hours.

3) President Bush's behavior and statements on the morning of 9/11 and his recollection of that morning.

4) The clear evidence of insider foreknowledge demonstrated by the highly unusual stock trades in the period just before 9/11.

5) The collapse, still unexplained, of WTC 7.

6) The total destruction of the Twin Towers, which even the NIST report does not adequately or scientifically explain. (Where did all the molten steel come from?)

7) No evidence that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon.

8) Flight 93 debris spread over eight square miles, no plane or bodies at "crash" site.

9) Pakistan's ISI chief, Gen. Mahmoud Ahmed, ordering Saeed Sheikh to send $100,000 to Mohamed Atta just before 9/11. That same ISI chief meeting with U.S. government officials during the week of 9/11.

I could go on for hours. Instead, read any or all of the following:

The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffin

The Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson

Towers of Deception by Barrie Zwicker

The War On Truth by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed

The Politics of Heroin by Alfred W. McCoy

Crossing the Rubicon by Michael C. Ruppert

9/11: Synthetic Terror Made in USA by Webster Griffin Tarpley

Please check these websites:

From The Wilderness

Scholars For 9/11 Truth

911Truth.org

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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» 9/11 Truthiness in action Posted by: thoughtcriminal
» good point, as usual Posted by: Coleman
» Ollie Posted by: famouspipeliner
» I highly recommend this book: Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: I highly recommend this book: Posted by: famouspipeliner
email
Posted by: rsaxto on Oct 19, 2006 2:32 AM   
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To email or not to email, that is the question. The answer is simple: increase your email and force the fascists to work their asses off for nothing for they will never find bin Laden in our emails and they will never find a terrorist in our emails and they will never find a bomb in our emails. They will only find an excuse to kill freedom in America so they can put every thinking decent person in jail. Impeaching fascists is the one best answer to our lack of democracy if they again don't accurately allow and count votes.

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» RE: email Posted by: loretta
» RE: email Posted by: rsaxto
» RE: email Posted by: Lauren
» RE: email Posted by: rsaxto
"...potential terrorist activity OR apprise them of other force protection issues."
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 19, 2006 2:47 AM   
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So you're surprised that the Pentagon might take a personal interest in anti-war activities? I assume "other force protection issues" means anything that challenges the Pentagon.

How is that different from GM wanting to be "apprised" of Ford's plans for auto model changes? Or Skippy Peanut Butter wanting to be "apprised" of Generic Peanut Butter's change in price? Or one fashion house keeping an eye on another fashion house?

Puhleeze, spare us the pseudo-horrified failed attempts at investigative reporting. They're just like the Pentagon's pseudo-sensitive failed attempts at investigation. Both are kissing up to their respective clientels. Get real!

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» totally Posted by: sln70
That's a "duh!"
Posted by: talkville on Oct 19, 2006 3:34 AM   
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Rule 1: assume surveillance. Any form of protest or non-conformist behavior is now well covered by these laws - we ain't seen nothing yet. In a militarist paradigm, peace itself is suspect.

So, as the Yugoslav saying goes: tell the truth, then run!

And don't go terrorizing people with all that peace talk!

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Are they listening?
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 19, 2006 5:51 AM   
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Do you think the Pentagon is monitoring what is being written on AlterNet?

FUCK YOU, RUMSFELD!!!

Gosh, I hope so! The other day, our incompetant, lap dog congress gave the president of the United States despotic power, that will allow him to deem anyone he chooses as an enemy combatant. Do you doubt for a minute that the "detention facilities" that are now being constructed by Dick Cheney's Halliburton won't eventually be host to one or more of the contributors to this great site? These - let's call a spade a spade - concentration camps - will eventually be host to alot of people who choose to excersize their 1st amendment rights. That is why it is so important that the republicans not retain control on the congress in January.

If these dirty old dingbats are allowed to have their way, our country, as we knew it and loved it, is finished. Think I'm kidding? Then vote republican next month. You'll deserve everything that happens to you.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Are they listening? Posted by: slowerpez
» RE: Are they listening? Posted by: Lauren
» Scary enough! Posted by: masternerd
They're reading your emails
Posted by: dougo on Oct 19, 2006 5:55 AM   
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Everyone knows the Quakers and the Friends are such a violent people. And the Amish, they wreak terror upon the towns which they live. They are surely plotting to make a dirty bomb with the methane coming off all that manure. There are some key words for their little talon program to pick up. What it all comes down to is a control issue. Bush and Cheney are control freaks. They must control all aspects of government. They own and control this government just like any other corporation they have owned and controled. CONTROL!!! TERROR!!! Be afraid! Terrorism is the perfect excuse Bu$hco needed to make his dream of dictatorship come true. He did say "it would be a whole lot easier if this were a dictatorship, as long as I'm the dictator." He and this whole cabal/regime in power have wrought more terror to the poor and the brown and the black of the world than Osama or Saddam ever could have. Our leader can't be disturbed while on vacation while the city of New Orleans drowns. Me thinks he is disturbed. He tried to overthrow Chavez in Argentina, a popularly democratically elected leader. Bush calls him a leftist along with most of the elected leaders of the Central and South American leaders. Bad bad leftists. What is wrong with using oil money to help the plight of the poor and raise the standard of living of the people? After all this oil comes from the ground of their country. And how dare this leader give discounted oil to the poor of the U.S. This undermines the profits of Exxon, Chevron and all the other American oil scalpers. U.S. oil companies get billions in tax breaks and the corporate heads get half a billion retirement packages. Meanwhile we pay$3.00 and more a gallon for gas. In Argentina it is $0.17 a gallon. Martin luther King said :Never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was legal. "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices."Voltaire

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» I don´t pay anything for gas Posted by: JimTheAnarchist
Internet Privacy
Posted by: smidget2k4 on Oct 19, 2006 6:11 AM   
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Duh. Here is a hint to everyone: all of the emails you send are sent through filters looking for keywords and/or images that may contain embedded images. All of your posts to AlterNet are recorded and monitored, all of you search history is recorded and monitored. The websites you go to are logged by your ISP and the government can request them at any time.

You are a fool think you have any privacy online at all.

And so are these activists if they are complaining about it.

If you need to make a secure communication, the INTERNET IS THE NOT THE PLACE TO DO IT because it is so ridiculously easy to snoop.

Or at LEAST send it though a proxy or use SSL or a one-way-hash encryption.

Learn some things about internet encryption and then try again.

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» Keywords Posted by: Allison
» RE: Keywords Posted by: flower
» Nothing to hide Posted by: masternerd
Bring 'em on!
Posted by: keefus55 on Oct 19, 2006 6:16 AM   
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To Mr. Bush and his "thought police" goon squads I say, "Bring 'em on!"

The Internet is now far too entrenched and far too pervasive in the World for any bureaucratic, cash-strapped US Government agency to effectively monitor or conrol the millions of e-mails now flowing through the system every hour of every day.

And for Mr. Bush and his merry band of Pentagon despots to now overtly shut it all down would tip their hand to the World as to what they are really up to. It's a classic diplomatic "Catch 22" which they absolutely can't win.

What's more, Bush and his "thought police" tried (and failed) a year or so ago to wrest control of ICANN from the international community. It didn't fly. And that failure was simply more proof that the Internet clearly now belongs to the World, not just the United States. The "genie" is already out of the bottle.

I suggest Mr. Bush and his goons might now want to turn their attention to far more useful and productive pursuits…. like combating SPAM.

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» RE: Bring 'em on! Posted by: ignition
America oh America, where have you gone?
Posted by: Intraspecto on Oct 19, 2006 6:25 AM   
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Well folks, its over. Giving the President of the US unlimited ability to wage war, then abolishing Habeus Corpus (Yes I know my spelling sucks, I have been up all night reading into the truth. The lights have just come on in my head) and then the unanswered questions about 9/11, and the invasion of Iraq in which we were BLATANTLY lied to, (the gov would have us all believe that it was jus an intel oversight) and not to mention sending random people off to torture in exotic locals around the world. It is obvious that our nation, once the bastion of liberty and freedoms has gone the other way and is now working towards becoming a bastion of fascism. Hopefully whoever becomes President in 08 will make serious changes. Until then, let us watch the constitution burn and liberty crumble...

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"MAYBE"???
Posted by: wawa on Oct 19, 2006 6:51 AM   
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THEY ARE READING MORE THAN E-MAILS!!!

When I gave 'birth' to WeAreWideAwake, my webmistress provided a link to tell me the origin of where WAWA readers come from-
NOT actual email addresses, but country
OR origin: such as Edu. or Gov.

The USA Military, USA Govt. and Israel have been consistently in the Top 20 of WAWA Readers.

Big Brother doesn't write to me, but I am pleased they are interested, as FREEDOM OF SPEECH means nothing unless you have something to say and say it!


"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."-...Article 19.
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

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» RE: "MAYBE"??? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: "MAYBE"??? Posted by: symcokid
» RE: "MAYBE"??? Posted by: Lauren
"Let us go now, you and I, when night is stretched against the sky..."
Posted by: rockpicker on Oct 19, 2006 7:11 AM   
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Grieving For Falluja, Election Day, 2005


I'm waiting empty in a cold house
with my shamrock, the dog and some books,
listening for the old tread of new boots,
gunning to kick in this loose-hinged heart.

The angry hands of those with much
to lose, I imagine, close on me.
They drag me burning, unquenchably,
into their unmooned dark.

A chilled cup of tea upon the table
is how my neighbors find me gone.
No sign of struggle. No skeletal sneer.
Only the storm door banging mad in wind.

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» In memoriam. Posted by: Sojourner
Big Deal
Posted by: hotar on Oct 19, 2006 7:16 AM   
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All these ACLU findings show is that the FBI or other govt orgs have signed up for email lists. Anyone can sign up for these lists and receive email notification of upcoming events. No big revelation here.

It's true that they are using them in paranoid, unjustified ways; Quakers are non-violent pacifists, hardly a terrorist threat (unless you're a paranoid wingnut and think the Quakers have been infiltrated by terrorist orgs).

But this is not a high-tech, packet-sniffing, email intercept program. Those undoubtedly exist and are targeting international email, but they are likely much more targeted and have little relevance for your everyday email communication. As someone said above, there's simply too much email going around for the govt to monitor all of it.

So, in conclusion: big deal.

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Don't they have more to do?
Posted by: velvel of atlanta on Oct 19, 2006 7:19 AM   
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Considering the wonderful intel job that was done before there were feet on the ground, the wonderful job being done on the Tex/Ariz/NMex/Cal/Mex border, and the wasteful spending on bridges to nowhere and parks in Asheville, don't they have more to do?

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» RE: Don't they have more to do? Posted by: velvel of atlanta
spying doesnt scare me
Posted by: revolutionary80 on Oct 19, 2006 7:32 AM   
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There is no doubt that progressive people like us are being spied on. The main reason is because people like us combined with the power of the internet threatens the establishment. I think I seak for alot of people when I say I dont care who is spying I will never give up my voice. Together we can bring about change. If everyone who was angry at the way our government is being ran stormed capitol hill (like the Civil Rights Movement, Vietnam protest,etc.) we could change everything but the truth is we are all to lazy and to concerned about our daily lives.

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» RE: spying doesnt scare me Posted by: Lauren
» RE: spying doesnt scare me Posted by: revolutionary80
» RE: spying doesnt scare me Posted by: flower
Progressives should be concerned if
Posted by: grim ripper on Oct 19, 2006 8:00 AM   
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the feds WEREN'T listening in. It would mean their not even considered a threat to the plutocracy.

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Electronic eavesdropping is only part of it.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 19, 2006 8:11 AM   
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Recall what Jack Abramoff's lawyer, Abbe Lowell said on the eve of Abramoff's sentancing?

Lowell: "We will name names. We will provide the public with evidence of what is going on out there," Lowell said. "It seems to me that is not in the interest of law enforcement."

So, what is going on out here? It's not just listening to phone calls and snooping on emails and internet trafiic (courtesy of AT&T and Verizon) Wired News: Whistle-Blower's Evidence, Uncut (May 22 2006)

It's the coordinated use by the local police and the federal government that's also of concern. It's the use of undercover cops who used to do DEA-type work being used to spy on peaceful groups for political purposes.

Look at the recent HP spy scandal, in which the company attempted to plant people inside the newspaper's headquarters. Groups like Students Against War can rest assured that at least some of their more 'radical' members are undercover cops.

Nixon did the same thing, and as numerous commentators have observed, "Bush is worse than Nixon", and "This is worse than Watergate."

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internet spy stuff
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Oct 19, 2006 8:59 AM   
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Check out this company
Narus
They make the software that records the ins and outs of the severs that run the web. As do other companies.

EFF has plenty of info on the internet privacy. Its worth checking out their site for a number of reasons.

TOR and PRIVOXY (google them) are software the allow some security over the web. These programs make it hard for search engines to figure out who you are from the searches comming from your IP address. *They are slow and difficult to use on a daily basis.*

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» RE: internet spy stuff Posted by: Lauren
» RE: internet spy stuff Posted by: kungfoofighterx
» RE: internet spy stuff Posted by: Lauren
Heil, Fuhrer Bush
Posted by: Reader11722 on Oct 19, 2006 9:13 AM   
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The 4th Reich has begun. Already the gestapo detains demonstrators, bans books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, conducts warrant-less wiretaps, uses false-flag operations (9/11) and starts illegal wars based on lies. We supported/elected the new Hitler (and his henchmen in Congress, both parties). Much of Germany did not know what was going on until it was too late. We can probably agree that the WWII German populace was far more intelligent that today's average American. How long until they realize?
Vote them ALL out, except Dr. Ron Paul, he stays.
Final link (before Google Books caves to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

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The Police State Is HERE NOW!
Posted by: Trinity on Oct 19, 2006 9:24 AM   
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» RE: Another Conspiracy Wingnut Posted by: werewolf
Love=Hate...apparently
Posted by: Habaro on Oct 19, 2006 9:30 AM   
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Seeing how the one-dimensional perverts in charge always mean and do the complete opposite of what they say, it makes perfect sense for them to assume that peace is nothing more than a precursor of terror--ALL roads lead to terror.

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They are getting skanky playing tricks on me to keep me from posting
Posted by: Lauren on Oct 19, 2006 11:08 AM   
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Check out the alternative. It will do you good.

When my computer suddenly was unable to log onto AlterNet after copying the adress off Todd's site, I was really boxed, until I started writing a letter to Todd explaining how I was being limited. Then the computer was suddenly able to log on again.

Don't forget this is an interactive, hunting intelligence operating on the line. Stand up for ALL your rights, especially the right to communicate. PS, I email my real address and phone to folks so they can never really stop us without shutting the whole country down.

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johngary66
Posted by: johngary66 on Oct 19, 2006 12:45 PM   
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Does anyone else wonder how much this ridiculous government spying costs each taxpayer? How many hungary people could that money feed?

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Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
Posted by: mite on Oct 19, 2006 2:18 PM   
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Patriot Act's, Military Commisions Act 2006= Hitler's Enabling Act 1934.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"
-Hitlers right hand man; Herman Goering, explaining at his war crimes trial.-
The people of the U.S. are in denial and side tracked with lies from the Congress and Media. Part of the Plan is keep us so absorbed in our greed, selfishness, we are unable to find the real truth.
Read: Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars www.lawfulpath.com

Remember what Bush said "your either with us or against us."
Bush has ignored over 900 laws and Belittles the constitution; " I don't give a goddam, I'm the President and commander-in- Chief" An aid said in a meeting; " There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution" Bush said " Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddammed piece of paper."
-Doug Thompson- Peoples Online Publishing, The Ferguson Report 03/22/2006
Bush needs a psychological evaluation in my option after reading anothe article from the Ferguson Report. Dr. Stephanie Crossfield a psychologist says Bush has a problem telling the truth.

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A solution
Posted by: BobbyGreyFriar on Oct 19, 2006 7:19 PM   
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So just carbon copy any email that might be construed as subversive and send it directly to the Pentagon. There's Jack Sh*t they can do at the best of times, but a torrent of emails they have to follow up on will surely clog up the works.

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Eagle Eyes
Posted by: BobbyGreyFriar on Oct 19, 2006 7:25 PM   
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You can report suspicious activity (including your own) to the following email address:

atfpintel@pfpa.mil

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Get it together or we are DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ernest cann on Oct 19, 2006 8:04 PM   
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Folks, do you know what today is?
It is the 125th anniversary of the end of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR!

Just think of the field day our government snoops would have had following the likes of Samuel Adams. Ben Franklin, Patrick Henry et al!

They probably would have been found out and HANGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But they sure would have looked awfully pretty in them thar redcoats! HUH?

The jerks have been training for these days for well over 20 years!

Door-to-door searches, prison camps and their plans, dumbing down the kids as they grew up so that violence and savergy were the norm, blindly obey your superiors!, now they have the technology to snoop on our e-mails, phone calls, they can literally see through walls, see you in the dark, trace you electronically anywhere you go, etc, etc,

If we do not start to push back through our local police and government officials, on up to our state folks, then to our Wash. D.C. CREATURES, we will have easily succumbed without a struggle, and I am sorry to report that we are 70% there!

BUT, WE CAN STILL WIN!
We have the numbers, and the truth on our side- and those weapons have always shown to win out!

We better get busy!

www.getonnow.org
www.americafreedomtofascism

Now they have two other places to snoop on!

An American!

Ernest Cann

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Monitor the quakers but, not the psuedo militias
Posted by: lafrance on Oct 19, 2006 10:41 PM   
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Oh, yes the quakers, and other anti war peaceful groups who are such a risk to national security and possible terrorists.
But, not the militia groups and other hate groups who personify the angry white male and are the kind of groups that attracted the timothy mcvays. Remember him. Our terrorist.
What the government, right wing government does not understand is that thier propaganda machines like Limbaugh and Fox incite the angry white males who are the most likely to do a terrorist act. Plus they are our version of the middle east terrorist.
they are angry men, they get incited by propaganda(ours with the gop machine of hate talk and thiers with the mulloahs). They are incited to do terror acts to release thier anger and show they control.
The gov. needs to be targeting these people to understand the middle east terrorist and quit harassing the peace groups who do not promote hate.

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Yesterday I posted a link for a new California senator
Posted by: Lauren on Oct 20, 2006 7:00 AM   
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Today our old one.

I am really unhappy with Feinstein, she is not representing our interests very well at all. She is on the big war committees, she knows a lot better what is going on then she lets on.

Todd is calling for open borders. I think that is a mistake, the message needs to be way more nuanced to reassure people about the actual intent. I don't want an open border with Asia. That would overwhelm us in a heartbeat, there are too many people there who want to be here.

The other Americas is another issue. Please Todd, drop the issue, we know your heart, focus on the war. Focus on torture and focus on the war mongering of Feinstein.

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Scary Quakers????
Posted by: masternerd on Oct 20, 2006 7:59 AM   
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Anybody who could potentially keep young impressionable teens from joining the military could be considered a terrorist!

Somebody once said "America is great because it is good". Well folks that era has been lost to the era of greed! No other motivation for the war in Iraq is present if you look at the facts.

As a former Army tool who was deployed at the start of "Iraqi Freedom" I want to point out a few things.

1. Camp Doha Kuwait--Civilian Security Forces
2. Throughout Kuwait--Jobs typically performed by enlisted men being sub contracted by civilian company's tied to government officials.

My assumption is the contracts bleed money from the tax payer. War would cost a lot less if the resources the military provide were used. Another benefit would be soldiers would gain practical work skills. (I sat in the desert for a year) bringing a stronger workforce for long term stability.

Poor and lower middle class people who join a branch of service are pawns for the rich. I am a capitalist but I don't agree with death and destruction as a marketing plan.

Yes its true America is no longer good and hasn't been for some time. But I feel that things are gonna get much worse before they get any better!

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103 comments and no mention of Encryption
Posted by: chomsky on Oct 20, 2006 12:00 PM   
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This is why Bush Cheney are getting away with what they are doing; none of you losers are COMPUTER LITERATE.

None of you encrypt your email, none of you even know what encryption is. Phil Zimmerman suffered terribly to bring military grade encryption to the masses, and you are too simple minded to use it.

Let me spell it out for your numbskulls:

You should all be using Thunderbird as your email client.
You should all have GPG installed on your computers.
You should all be using Enigmail to seamlessly and effortlessly encrypt your email so that not even the NSA can read it.
And finally, you should all be running Ubuntu and not Wiindows, or if you have the cash, Macs.

If you are too stupid to use these free tools (PGP/GPG being over ten years old now) then really we should not have to put up with your WAAAHHH WAAHHHH WAAAAHHH baby crying.

Anyone in ANY political organization should be encrypting ALL their email by default. USE YOUR BRAINS YOU IDIOTS.

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force protection issues -
Posted by: p-dowdy on Oct 20, 2006 12:50 PM   
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An important 'force protection issue' for them is us effectively challenging their recruiting efforts and demoralizing their existing members.

As far as actual terrorist acts go, they're more afraid of the environmentalists.

But we're all in the same stew. And I'm glad for the company.

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You've only got yourselves to blame. So Get Encrypted!
Posted by: Bulldog on Oct 20, 2006 4:35 PM   
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PGP Encryption Freeware has been around for years.
Phil Zimmermann in the early 1990's forsaw the increasing need for encryption of electronic communications for the layperson.
Once installed, PGP secures all communications using a brilliant combination of a conventional algorithm or block cipher, encryption by asymmetric algorithm & public / private keys. All this goes to ensure a massively effective cryptography.

I studied it briefly as part of a University assignment last year but it's just not that complicated to install and use.
You should all use it. Yes! Even you, you big dummy!

One hint: Version 7.0x will not recognize keys generated by 6.5.x PGP versions, but only locally on your own machine. This is only about the keys created locally on your own computer, so, you should always be able to read messages sent to you that have been encrypted by others, using early PGP versions. The private/public key generation technique may have changed for a local machine but the encryption ciphers are unchanged with time.

Reports on PGP encryption:

"PGP prevents people from reading what you sent to whom, but does not prevent people from monitoring with whom you are communicating. This is called traffic analysis, and can leak
much information about you. PGP does not prevent against this. If you are afraid of this, you should send email indirectly (send the message encrypted to a friend and ask him to send it through with a random time delay), or set up a mail server to do this." [A security analysis of Pretty Good Privacy]
Sieuwert van Otterloo
September 7, 2001

"The government has a track record that does not inspire confidence that they will never abuse our civil liberties. The FBI’s COINTELPRO program targeted groups that opposed government policies. They spied on the antiwar movement and the civil rights movement. They wiretapped the phone of
Martin Luther King Jr. Nixon had his enemies list. And then there was the Watergate mess. Congress now seems intent on passing laws curtailing our civil liberties on the Internet. At no time in the past century has public distrust of the government been so broadly distributed across the political spectrum, as it is today.
If we want to resist this unsettling trend in the government to outlaw cryptography, one measure we can apply is to use cryptography as much as we can now while it’s still legal. When use of strong cryptography becomes popular, it’s harder for the government to criminalize it. Therefore, using PGP is good for preserving democracy.
If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Intelligence agencies have access to good cryptographic technology. So do the big arms and drug traffickers. But ordinary people and grassroots political organizations mostly have not had access to affordable “military grade” public-key cryptographic technology. Until now."
[Phil Zimmermann - PGP Inventor in 'PGP Users Guide'. June 1999.]

There's also PGP compatible 'HUSHMAIL', that I have not tried, but which uses similar cryptography techniques.

Cryptography & the de-ciphering thereof is a very interesting subject and was pioneered by the likes of Alan Turing at Bletchley Park UK, to help conquer the NAZI's and the enigma cipher machines of WWII.

We can do it hard or we can do it easy. Here's easy.
Just GOOGLE for 'PGP Freeware' and perhaps 'HUSHMAIL'.
Plus, there are masses and masses of Help Documents available, that come with or accompanying the installation programme(s).

Easy! Done! You are now almost ready to be Eyes-only secure. Otherwise, you've only got yourselves to blame.
So Get Encrypted!

Once installed, check it works by sending a series of encrypted mails to yourself.

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WHy would 9/11 "Truth" "Activists" be at the top of the list?
Posted by: nihilozero on Oct 20, 2006 8:17 PM   
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Seems to me they are the most likely to be the agent provocateurs of the new COINTELPRO.

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19 Hyjackers?
Posted by: Royliing on Oct 20, 2006 9:14 PM   
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I find it very interesting that immediately after the 9/11 it was anounced by the governemnt that 19 hyjackers were invloved. I wonder how they got this information since no one was able to communicate with the piolts, and every one was killed that was on the planes.

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