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American Prison Camps Are on the Way

By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted October 9, 2006.


Kellogg Brown & Root, a Halliburton subsidiary, is constructing a huge facility at an undisclosed location to hold tens of thousands of Bush's "unlawful enemy combatants." Americans are certain to be among them.
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The Military Commissions Act of 2006 governing the treatment of detainees is the culmination of relentless fear-mongering by the Bush administration since the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Because the bill was adopted with lightning speed, barely anyone noticed that it empowers Bush to declare not just aliens, but also U.S. citizens, "unlawful enemy combatants."

Bush & Co. has portrayed the bill as a tough way to deal with aliens to protect us against terrorism. Frightened they might lose their majority in Congress in the November elections, the Republicans rammed the bill through Congress with little substantive debate.

Anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on Bush's list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

The bill also strips habeas corpus rights from detained aliens who have been declared enemy combatants. Congress has the constitutional power to suspend habeas corpus only in times of rebellion or invasion. The habeas-stripping provision in the new bill is unconstitutional and the Supreme Court will likely say so when the issue comes before it.

Although more insidious, this law follows in the footsteps of other unnecessarily repressive legislation. In times of war and national crisis, the government has targeted immigrants and dissidents.

In 1798, the Federalist-led Congress, capitalizing on the fear of war, passed the four Alien and Sedition Acts to stifle dissent against the Federalist Party's political agenda. The Naturalization Act extended the time necessary for immigrants to reside in the U.S. because most immigrants sympathized with the Republicans.

The Alien Enemies Act provided for the arrest, detention and deportation of male citizens of any foreign nation at war with the United States. Many of the 25,000 French citizens living in the U.S. could have been expelled had France and America gone to war, but this law was never used. The Alien Friends Act authorized the deportation of any non-citizen suspected of endangering the security of the U.S. government; the law lasted only two years and no one was deported under it.

The Sedition Act provided criminal penalties for any person who wrote, printed, published, or spoke anything "false, scandalous and malicious" with the intent to hold the government in "contempt or disrepute." The Federalists argued it was necessary to suppress criticism of the government in time of war. The Republicans objected that the Sedition Act violated the First Amendment, which had become part of the Constitution seven years earlier. Employed exclusively against Republicans, the Sedition Act was used to target congressmen and newspaper editors who criticized President John Adams.

Subsequent examples of laws passed and actions taken as a result of fear-mongering during periods of xenophobia are the Espionage Act of 1917, the Sedition Act of 1918, the Red Scare following World War I, the forcible internment of people of Japanese descent during World War II, and the Alien Registration Act of 1940 (the Smith Act).

During the McCarthy period of the 1950s, in an effort to eradicate the perceived threat of communism, the government engaged in widespread illegal surveillance to threaten and silence anyone who had an unorthodox political viewpoint. Many people were jailed, blacklisted and lost their jobs. Thousands of lives were shattered as the FBI engaged in "red-baiting." One month after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, United States Attorney General John Ashcroft rushed the U.S.A. Patriot Act through a timid Congress. The Patriot Act created a crime of domestic terrorism aimed at political activists who protest government policies, and set forth an ideological test for entry into the United States.

In 1944, the Supreme Court upheld the legality of the internment of Japanese and Japanese-American citizens in Korematsu v. United States. Justice Robert Jackson warned in his dissent that the ruling would "lie about like a loaded weapon ready for the hand of any authority that can bring forward a plausible claim of an urgent need."

That day has come with the Military Commissions Act of 2006. It provides the basis for the President to round-up both aliens and U.S. citizens he determines have given material support to terrorists. Kellogg Brown & Root, a subsidiary of Cheney's Halliburton, is constructing a huge facility at an undisclosed location to hold tens of thousands of undesirables.

In his 1928 dissent in Olmstead v. United States, Justice Louis Brandeis cautioned, "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." Seventy-three years later, former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, speaking for a zealous President, warned Americans "they need to watch what they say, watch what they do."

We can expect Bush to continue to exploit 9/11 to strip us of more of our liberties. Our constitutional right to dissent is in serious jeopardy. Benjamin Franklin's prescient warning should give us pause: "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."

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Marjorie Cohn, a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, is president-elect of the National Lawyers Guild, and the U.S. representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists. Her new book, "Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law," will be published in 2007 by PoliPointPress.

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Posted by: rsaxto on Oct 9, 2006 1:25 AM   
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It is amazing how stupid, irrational and undemocratic most of the current congress members are. Vote against any of the baboons who voted for this fascist legislation. Making more American jails is a crime against humanity.

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» I live in Ohio,too Posted by: kww355
» WHO TO PUT IN CAMPS Posted by: No Neos
» Possible post-election scenarios Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: Possible post-election scenarios Posted by: HecticEclectic
more info needed
Posted by: CCridr on Oct 9, 2006 2:18 AM   
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"Kellogg Brown & Root, a Halliburton subsidiary, is constructing a huge facility at an undisclosed location"

There is no other detail in this article to support this statement. Please elaborate.

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» RE: more info needed Posted by: Ken Duerksen
» RE: more info needed Posted by: YogiBear
» I know! WTF? Posted by: sln70
» RE: more info needed Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: more info needed Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» More evidence needed Posted by: jgr4
» More info ALWAYS needed Posted by: fifthworld
» Verifiable Proof still needed Posted by: LeftWright
The round up is about to start!
Posted by: hot_rad_man on Oct 9, 2006 3:12 AM   
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This plan was formulated a year ago or more but you had to dig for the information which just shows you that the pig press run by the corporations wants to keep you in the dark. Soon the knock on the door will come and we will be rounded up one by one in buses sent by the Post Office that is designated to provide addresses for the pigs that will arrest us and detain us indefinitely without a trial, without a lawyer, thown in to the pit of obscurity and our loved ones will never find us. You were warned America but you were asleep and now it is too late!

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WE ARE THE ENEMY
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 9, 2006 3:42 AM   
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I guess this makes all of us "unlawful enemy comabatants". Yes, I am this administration's worst fucking nightmare. So are you. Am I a physical threat? Hell, no! I'm a commited passifist. Am I a political nightmare? You bet your sweet bippy, Buster! I'm not surprised that this administration is building concentration camps, are you? Can it shock anyone that the most corrupt and criminal president in American history is doing such a thing? If you are taken aback by these recent disclosures, you haven't been paying attention these last six years, that's for sure.

So what to do? It's up to all of us (Weeda Peeple) to let this half-witted, murderous little piece of shit in the White House and the tsanami of human shit that comprises this disgsuting administration that THEY WILL NOT ROLL OVER US. If they are naive enough to believe that thinking Americans of all political stripes will take this lying down, they're actually dumber than even I thought.

If you need further proof as to the importance of next month's elections then you might as well go back to sleep. Remember that old line, Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party? Substitute "men" with "people" and "party" with "country" and you're on the right course.

These dispicable perverts may feel that they have us right where they want us but, guess what? They''re gonna fail! This is the time to stand up, folks! This is the time to make your voices heard loud and clear! We will no longer allow them to shit on our constitution! The party's over. The piper must be paid.

GEORGE W. BUSH AND RICHARD B. CHENEY WILL BE REMEMBERED IN HISTORY AS THE FIRST PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SPEND THE REST OF THEIR FUCKING LIVES FEDERAL PRISON. I PROMISE YOU THAT.

Tom Degan
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"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Passive Resistance Posted by: Lincoln fan
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attitude toward dissent
Posted by: DrXyzzy on Oct 9, 2006 3:54 AM   
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he [Musharraf] said, he refused Bush's "ludicrous" demand that he arrest Pakistanis who publicly demonstrated against the U.S. - Paul Craig Roberts

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Another false flag rumor which fits into this..........
Posted by: Prophit on Oct 9, 2006 4:08 AM   
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Heard through different sources on the internet that there will be a sinking of a aegis class carrier (not sure of the term here or even if I got it right since I am not military) in the straights of hormuz and it will be blamed on the Iranians and that will be the justification for attacking Iran. Supposedly they are willing to sacrifice 5,000 sailors to cover for their attack on Iran.

If they do this and we do nothing at that point with advance warning as we have been getting, then we truly deserve everything we get. Even at my age I will have to take a stand and do something besides just talking. Since I am old enough then its a good way to go since I am nearing that time of my life anyway. LOL

The question I have is who will guard the inmates???? It won't be US soldiers since they have already stated in a poll that they wouldn't fire on American civilians, so we could just walk away. It would have to be UN Troops or Mexican troops similar to those brought into Texas during Katrina.

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» This wouldn't surprize me a bit Posted by: planet doomed
» Hmmmmm....... a target!!! Posted by: Prophit
» What's the plan? WHAT do we do? Posted by: thistleblower
done deal?
Posted by: karyse on Oct 9, 2006 4:22 AM   
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I know it's difficult to imagine, but what's done in the legislature can be undone -- and we don't have to rely on the supreme court. If alcohol prohibiton can be repealed, so to can this idiot bill. And so too the patriot act, and so can we get rid of our so-called representatives.

This bill is so whacked, it includes sections that:
1) prohibits any court from acting on behalf of detainees
2) allows hearsay evidence
3) allows evidence obtained without a search warrant
4) allows the military judge to close the proceedings to the public
5) prohibits revealing evidence in favor of the defense if it is a matter of "national security"
6) in essence gets rid of a jury trial
7) prohibits detainees from invoking the Geneva Conventions
8) gives the president carte blanche in personal interpretation of the Geneva Conventions
9) strips u.s. courts of jurisdiction to intervene on behalf of alien detainees held in the U.S or abroad
10) and gets rid of habeas corpus (the gist of which is that one must be told what the charges against him/her are or be released, and must be told the evidence against them in a grand jury indictment).

I'd also like to point out that Spector (Republican - PA) sponsored amendment 5087 to strike the Habeas portion. All the democrats but one (Nelson - NE) agreed, and three other rebublicans voted with the democrats (Chafee - RI, Smith -OR, Sununu - NH)

The Habeas part of this bill will not survive, but I am convinced that that part was included to distract us from the other really scary stuff. Where oh where are the journalists. Imagine my surprise last week as I was researching this to discover that there was a Military Commissions Act of 2005.

Yes, reading Alternet and other supposedly alternative news sources, is just a "feel good" activity, because it sure didn't tell me ahead of time about this.

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» bookmark http://thomas.loc.gov/ Posted by: planet doomed
» RE: done deal? Posted by: ignition
And the beat goes on...
Posted by: oneyedjack on Oct 9, 2006 5:39 AM   
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Yada, yada, yada and yada. Yeah, they're gonna lock people up. Yeah, they're gonna make people "disppear." Yeah, they're gonna do all this and more, and they will (continue) to get away with just as they always have done.
The largest, collective yellow streak in the Universe resides in the Amerikan psyche. We don't, won't, can't take to the streets and close shit down or break shit up because we are: busy with school, home, work, TV, I-Podding, keyboarding, MP3'ing, keeping up with the Madison Avenue fantasy, busy working on our next rant for the chat/board, liberal, progressive, alternative, AlterNet/MoveOn/PayPal'ing/Rhetorical Venting. Anything and everything but Revolution/taking it to the streets.
Looking for Mr. GoodBarPolitician in the cesspool that is known as capitalism. Ain't gonna happen bunky. You cannot petition the lord with prayer/petitions/elections/common sense/or dollars. Get a grip on reality folks.

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» Yeh! Posted by: fifthworld
» RE: And the beat goes on... Posted by: aussidawg
maninmoon
Posted by: maninmoon on Oct 9, 2006 5:59 AM   
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Prisons have become and "industry" in this country. There's big bucks to squeeze out of the poor. If yo daddy ain't loaded, you are a walking goldmine. (if you're arrested) and the reasons for arrest are getting down to "improper posture" in bush's privilaged little world. I got a DUI because I was involved with a c..c..crazy bitch. who slashed my tires AFTER punching me and breaking my glasses. A hospital security geek called in that I was drivin erratically. (in a blizzard with two flat tires) I was like 1 point.point, over. You would not believe the expenses. I wish I still had the bill just to publish. There were also about a dozen "fees" on there. They cherge you money to arrest you, "arrest report filing fee" was one, Like I say I can't remember them all but it was about 2 grand, BEFORE being talked into hiring an "attorney" who in the end did more harm than good. They charged for a hotel room where I had to attend a lecture on blah,blah, blah. License reinstatement "fees" Man it was/is just a total scam. And then they held me for 3 days, before I was allowed to buy myself out. (If I was broke I'd probably still be there) Then after about 3-4 grand, your "risk insurance kicks in for 3(?) years or so. It was/is legalized rape/robbery. It's an "industry". Why do you think there are so many "privately" owned prisons? Big bucks. Why do we have the hightest arrest rate in this country? $$$$$! It destroys families, (the poorer ones) robs you blind, ruins your credibility, kills your reputation, takes your home away, takes your kids away, embarrasses you to death, etc, etc, because you don't have the graft "required under law". If you don't have the money, they will bill you till the day you die. The "system" is worse than the crooks.
It is an industry gentlemen. a corrupt but very profitable one. And the main bastard behind the wole prison scam gets drunk, shoots a man in the face with a shotgun, doesn't even report it, and skips away "clean".
And justice? Forget about it. Ain't gonna happen til Bush is long dead. He's been busy setting up the rest of his rip-offs to kick in AFTER he leaves the "office" he stole to begin with.
Bush/Cheney are the worst slimebags that ever disgraced Washington.

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» IOW, you were driving drunk. Posted by: catnapping
» RE: IOW, you were driving drunk. Posted by: Maureen E. Mellom
» Don't forget Laura (do-good) Bush Posted by: countingdaisies
» Cops are rackateers Posted by: Burton
So now they're buildling concentration camps
Posted by: feduphoosier on Oct 9, 2006 6:26 AM   
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Guess they already know the outcome of the November election (you should too - electronic voting machines are being installed as fast as they can be plugged in.)

My guess is that things will start getting very interesting around here when literally everyone in the country learns the elections are now fixed. It won't matter at that point if you are a Democrat or a Republican. Actually... it doesn't matter now, but no one realizes it yet. The corporations hold the strings. The real center of power is K Street.

Right now our government has nothing but thinly veiled disdain for 'we the people.' Think New Orleans after the levees broke. Look at New Orleans an entire year later. Our government doesn't give a ____.

So now imagine... after the November pretend elections, when suddenly everyone who voted blinks, wakes up, and realizes their Democracy has been toppled. They might be angry. (I'm already expecting this, so I'll be hiding in a cave.)

At that point, those who stole our government will start to fear us. An angry populace is a powder keg. Just look back through history.

And that is why they are building camps. Because they don't intend to stop what they are doing, and they are systematically dismantling our government so that soon, there will be no way to stop them. Then they will be free to lock us up. The Nazi's left the blue-print.

And perhaps the Democrats who are going along simply know something we don't. Yet.

It has now been just long enough that most of the people who watched the rise of Nazi Germany have died - and their children and grandchildren apparently weren't taught much about history. History comes back around. The only protection is vigilance. Guess too many of us out shopping.

Besides - it can't happen here. Right?

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Well, the ovens can't be far off...
Posted by: catnapping on Oct 9, 2006 7:18 AM   
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Everything we predicted has already come true.

BTW, any links to that portion of the law which has now made this more possible? (dissernters are now enemy combatants?)

I can't find the part where he can have me detained for making this post.

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THE BLACK HELICHOPTERS ARE COMING!!
Posted by: TooDamnCool on Oct 9, 2006 7:19 AM   
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THE BLACK HELICHOPTERS ARE COMING!! QUICK, WE MUST BAND TOGETHER TO FIGHT THE ZIONIST OCCUPATION ARMIES THAT ARE THE SPEAR TIP OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!

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I worry that even if the Dems take back congress...
Posted by: catnapping on Oct 9, 2006 7:43 AM   
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Bush's Nazi-appointed USSC will carry on where Bush, Rummy, Ashcroft, and Cheney left off...

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there's something strange about this article...
Posted by: JP2 on Oct 9, 2006 8:06 AM   
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...as other readers noted, there's something wrong with the blurb here. It seems to refer to a very much needed inquiry into the police-state initiatives to build prison camps. Nonetheless, the article itself just barely mention a rumor about one of them. Very disappointing.

I mean, it's ok that you brought to the front page a discussion about the disruption of rights and liberties. But about the camps, this is not how things should be done. With such a blurb there you are committed to give us some sort of inquiry and some evidence of the facts. Go talk to Greg Palast if you need an hint.

You know, it's been talked about prison camps for a while now. Illegal aliens are already the perfect excuse to experiment such facilities in Europe. Right now in Italy and Spain are detention camps where human rights are suspended, where people is detained without charges and mistreated, humiliated, beaten and tortured. A brave italian journalist recently infiltrated one of these facilities and reported on it, police forces behaving as animals and giving roman salutes included.
(And by the way, even in these European hell-holes 9/11 is always looming into the background... which is pretty disgusting and makes the 9/11 issue more pressing than ever. Because there every single policeman feels entitled to beat and crush a starving north-african who survived from a three days nightmarish travel across the mediterranean, on the grounds that "he's just a terrorist".)

It is very likely that what we know of Guantanamo and Abu Grahib it's just a scratch on the surface. 'Road to Guantanamo' compelling and horrible as it is, is probably just a glimpse of what really happens there. What the amercan government, 'defending freedom' is already issuing in terms of torture is just plain unbelievable, even if just half of the reports are true.
(And writing it on the paper! and having it voted by the congress! it's something even Hitler wouldn't have dreamed of. Because Hitler and Mussolini had to close their parliaments in order to accomplish what they wanted. Apparently, this is not needed in the U.S., because the parliament (democrats included) is there to lend a hand!! Incredible!! Is everyone under the spell of UFOs there? I really don't understand.)

And us the people... I think that we are all behaving just like the middle-class behaved when fascism arose in Europe: 'it doesn't concern me. It concerns those other fellows. There's no hurry to react', which is just what the corrupted political elite needs.
We are brought to accept torture and illegal detention, so that we share the guilt and we won't be able to speak against it when it gets really worse. By then we will only hope not to be seized ourselves.

So, back to the issue, the only way out of this is INFORMATION, and FACTS, this is where you should come into the picture. Please put some brave reporters to investigate the FEMA detention camps.
We badly need the facts.

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blatant mistake = mediocre article.
Posted by: ShoShenQ on Oct 9, 2006 8:16 AM   
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I stopped readin' here:

quote:
"In 1798, the Federalist-led Congress, capitalizing on the fear of war, passed the four Alien and Sedition Acts to stifle dissent against the Federalist Party's political agenda. The Naturalization Act extended the time necessary for immigrants to reside in the U.S. because most immigrants sympathized with the Republicans."

1798 !? I thought the republican party was created 56 years later ??

reference:
http://www.ushistory.org/gop/origins.htm

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deny them
Posted by: robmikejas on Oct 9, 2006 8:20 AM   
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I'm standing in line with Tom Degan. Shitbags like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Hastert, Santorum, must face an enraged public starting with the November elections. Turn the tide and the newly elected will strike down the fascist agenda currently polluting our national governance. Deny McCain, Leiberman and their ilk a chance to prove their disengenuousness by voting them out of power . It is time for the new "silent majority" to sweep the cockroaches out the door.

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Scaring the people
Posted by: outlander55 on Oct 9, 2006 8:28 AM   
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For the first time in my 50 years, I am seeing more and more Americans becoming afraid of the government. What is wrong with this picture. the government is supposed to look to the welfare of the people, not scare the shit out of them. If true Americans (those who believe in the Constitution) do not take to the streets, we are truely screwed.

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» RE: Scaring the people Posted by: Burton
Does anyone remember
Posted by: bookwoman on Oct 9, 2006 8:27 AM   
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Keep in mind the film, "The Siege". Although released in 1998, its prophecy is amazing. American citizens being gathered up and put in camps because someone thinks they look like terroists. Americans can't imagine themselves being put in a camp, but it could certainly migrate that way.

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» RE: Does anyone remember Posted by: catnapping
Move-on's 3 million members to be first "enemy combatents" on the list.
Posted by: Gretchen on Oct 9, 2006 9:03 AM   
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Now the GOP can get rid of Move-on.org's members--anyone caught donating to move-on will be immediately hauled off to one of the camps. Enemy combatents indeed!

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» Move-on thinks I'm Jenna Bush Posted by: planet doomed
Our President has a history of DUIs but was never arrested
Posted by: sarahk on Oct 9, 2006 9:10 AM   
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Our alcoholic president has been given 3 DUIs--once with his 16 year-old brother as a passenger! Our vice-president has been given 5 DUIs. 8 DUIs and no arrests! It is good to be white and rich and powerful.
As a side note, our former Head of the Justice Department, Mr. Aschcroft has railed about the evils of drug users and worked hard to keep draconian drug laws on the books. Yet, his nephew, who was transporting enough cocaine across state lines to keep him jailed for life with no parole, was given just parole. Let's also mention Jeb Bush's daughter who was using cocaine while at a court-ordered drug treatment facility. If any of us had done this, we would been put in jail for many years. She got to finish the treatment program with no jail time. It is good to be a family member of the elite.

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Woops--I posted on the wrong article
Posted by: sarahk on Oct 9, 2006 9:11 AM   
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Sorry

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November election?
Posted by: kingcherry on Oct 9, 2006 9:20 AM   
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What make people think, the election in november will make a difference. Considering these are fascist pigs in office?

That old mindset, we'll show our displeasure by removing them from office through elections, will not suffice. They steal elections.

These criminals have been planning this for decades. Do you really think, they will give this kind of power up willingly?

All we have to remember, these people will do anything to stay in power. Anything!

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» Yes indeedy Posted by: HeroesAll
Links to info on Halliburton/KBR detention camps
Posted by: Gretchen on Oct 9, 2006 9:24 AM   
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http://news.pacificnews.org/news/

Homeland "Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
News Analysis/Commentary, Peter Dale Scott,
New America Media, Feb 08, 2006

Editor's Note: A little-known $385 million contract for Halliburton subsidiary KBR to build detention facilities for "an emergency influx of immigrants" is another step down the Bush administration's road toward martial law, the writer says.

BERKELEY, Calif.--A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."

The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when."
http://robwire.com/?q=node/894
?Homeland Security To Build Detention Camps In The United States
Submitted by rob on Wed, 2006-01-25 04:55.
By Business Editors
(c) 2006 Business Wire
ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2006--KBR announced today that the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component has awarded KBR an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

"We are especially gratified to be awarded this contract because it builds on our extremely strong track record in the arena of emergency operations support," said Bruce Stanski, executive vice president, KBR Government and Infrastructure. "We look forward to continuing the good work we have been doing to support our customer whenever and wherever we are needed."

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts."

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Skeptical
Posted by: BobbyG on Oct 9, 2006 9:29 AM   
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The KBR contract is reported to be for a maximum of $385 million. At Halliburton prices, that'll get us 35 tents, 14 double-wide trailers, and 10 cases of .5L Arrowhead drinking water bottles.

Internal gulag camps com? Dunno what to believe anymore. This smacks somewhat of tinfoil haberdashery.

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» Hey man Posted by: fifthworld
massive immigration
Posted by: karyse on Oct 9, 2006 9:47 AM   
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er... did they mean to say massive Emigration? As far as I can tell, no one's beating the doors to get IN anymore, but there's an awful lot of folks wanting OUT.

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» RE: migration "best" places? Need input Posted by: albrechtkrausse
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» I've been wondering ..... Posted by: LeftWright
What to do?
Posted by: fifthworld on Oct 9, 2006 10:22 AM   
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"Please don't murder me" -- the Dead.

It seems we're on the verge of having to get up and away from the desk, maybe go militia and hoard some guns, unless you want to do passive resistance; I haven't decided yet. My personality inclines me like Tom there, but my body and nervous system don't, with a seizure disorder from brain surgery. If you need medications, getting locked up or "interred" is not a pretty future. I'm trying to do all the healing I can NOW. Maybe I can regain health and full strength because we need to be serious warriors, of whatever variety chosen, and it will take a lot of faith to get through this time. We are outraged but not immortal, so rationing energy is important. Especially since our foods are largely poisoned or denatured, we're all diseased, and the only way to stay strong is to start hoarding as many supplements and dried power-foods - the green stuff, I like Hemp protein powder - and staying as clear of the manifold toxins around us as we can: electromagnetically, chemically, psychologically, spiritually, politically.

I don't think the elections will be good news (rigged), if they're allowed to take place. I think the new moon, around 10/21, will inaugurate the bombardment of Iran long planned because they prefer the darkness of that time of month for the air attacks. Then will come the lockdown at home, with cancellation of elections, then the roundups by your local militarized police courtesy of the enemy-combatant-suspects lists - and that's when we will have to defend ourselves. I don't have a gun, but I will get one and put up a fight before I die. I would also like to regain my full strength so that I can have the pleasure of kicking some Gestapo ass with my feet straight to their faces, just to say I did, or know I did.

Just some thoughts I had.

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» Haikus on the subject Posted by: fifthworld
» Oh and also Posted by: fifthworld
» RE: What to do? Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: What to do? Posted by: bambic
» RE: What to do? Posted by: aussidawg
Well, if an ultraconservative....
Posted by: mrcentrist on Oct 9, 2006 10:31 AM   
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....was willing to murder 168 people by destroying the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, of course ultraconservatives would be willing to round up liberals and execute them.

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» Not sure what you mean Posted by: fifthworld
» RE: Not sure what you mean Posted by: mrcentrist
» Okay Posted by: fifthworld
» RE: Okay Posted by: mrcentrist
EVERY HALLOWEEN
Posted by: Gaubladt on Oct 9, 2006 10:31 AM   
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The Retro-active get out of jail for torturing card that the president gave himself is also unconstitutional. Reason-being: if he did it once, he can do it again, and again... thereby anulling the part of the constitution that prohibits cruel and unusual punnishment.
The United States could do it every halloween: "trick or treat?"

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End of Days?
Posted by: wisewebwoman on Oct 9, 2006 10:39 AM   
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In every sense of the word. Nowhere anywhere do I see that the existing Dems could be in the pockets of the Reps, we know the Diebold machines are and the Supremes are, why not the Dems. It would explain just about EVERYTHING going on at the moment. There is no valid opposition or debate to any preposterous and outlandish seizure and trashing of the Constitution this Vile and Evil Cabal imposes. All we know for sure is they have wealth beyond our wildest dreams and are using it, why not to buy dissident voices? Just a thought. And yes we've passed on info on these new prison camps for nearly a year and no one has believed us. And it's going to get far far worse. Suspension of all civil rights and electoral process. Look at the lining up of nuclear warheads in the Arabian Gulf even as I write. Is it time for another civil war yet?

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