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The Religious Right Goes to Washington

By Sarah Posner, AlterNet. Posted September 30, 2006.


Republican presidential candidates fell all over themselve to pander to religious conservatives at last weekend's "Values Voter Summit" -- billed as the most important political event in the Christian Right's history. An AlterNet reporter covered the scene.

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Republicans are staking their hopes of holding on to power in the November elections on looking tough on terror. But at the Family Research Council's first "Values Voters Summit" in Washington last week, billed as the most important political event in the Christian Right's history, a showcase of 2008 Republican presidential hopefuls, and, tellingly, the president's own spokesman, all focused not on terrorists or war or global jihad, but on the threat posed to America by two men getting married. Under the stress of possibly losing its grip (on power), the party of the so-called "values voter" has collapsed under the weight of its own moral dishonesty.

Speakers at the conference fired up the audience, but there was virtually no mention of the occupation of Iraq, spiraling health care costs, a huge housing bubble, or the daily economic struggles many Americans face. Those things pale in comparison to the real threats: a declining culture, and the shadowy network of feminists and Hollywood executives that are responsible for its fall.

Bishop Wellington Boone, a black preacher, distributed a pamphlet entitled, "The Rape of the Civil Rights Movement: How Sodomites Are Using Civil Rights Rhetoric to Advance Their Preference for Sexual Perversion." Jenn Giroux of Cincinnati's medievalist Citizens of Community Values denounced feminism and proclaimed, to enthusiastic applause, "We want to be protected by men! That doesn't make us weak!" Don Feder, the anti-Hollywood provocateur and founder of Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation, said that George Clooney hates George W. Bush the way Hamas hates Jews. An unrepentant George Allen was canonized as the victim of "the worst gotcha journalism we've seen in recent years."

It is by now old news that the Perkins-Dobson-Wildmon-Bauer quartet is hysterical, close-minded, and out of touch with all but a vocal minority of religious fundamentalists who think that the ACLU has laid waste to America and that everything could be fixed if all gay people turned straight and Christians were just allowed to preach the Gospel in every corner of America's public squares. But while the movement lacks what many would consider virtue, its virtue to Republican bean counters is the durability of its leaders' predictability. Every two years, Republican strategists, sensing an election about to slip away, beg the Christian Right to mobilize its voters. The Christian Right complies. And about a year and a half later, like a jilted lover, the Christian Right complains loudly that the Republicans have betrayed them, have forgotten about their issues, have led the nation astray by allowing crazy judges to let two men get married. So they organize a conference. The Republicans show up. The Republicans pretend there is nothing more pressing in the world's greatest democracy than preventing certain citizens from having families. Relieved, the Christian Right (and, illegally, some of its tax-exempt pastoral foot soldiers, too) tells its followers to vote Republican. And it will go on this way until a collective wave of moral spine -- from Republicans, Democrats, and just regular, nonpartisan people who think statements like "Sex and the City" "is one of the most damaging shows of our generation" are just plain ludicrous -- stands up against the bullies at the pulpit.

The warmest reception of the day was reserved for the president's proxy, Tony Snow. If there was any doubt that he had perfected the art of turning every day into opposite day while shilling for Fox News and the Bush White House, he laid that doubt to rest with his sickening homage to the president's "humility." While some people might view Bush's hypercompetitive bike rides through the blistering Texas heat as an effort to humiliate others, Snow cited them as an example of Bush's humility as he gives "glory to a Creator." (More dictionary and less Bible might be in order.) Snow described the bike rides as an example of Bush's ability to "indulge in the glories of life and [not have to] apologize for things that give our lives shape and meaning."


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Posted by: rsaxto on Sep 30, 2006 12:37 AM   
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This is a nice list of all the ways the Republican Religious Right has become divorced from modern decency, sanity, reality, survivability and justice. One can only guess that the reason for this is that they have been so brainwashed that they have no way to separate truth from propaganda. And these goofy idiots control atomic armageddon!

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The Buffet That Is Politics
Posted by: dgiVista.org on Sep 30, 2006 2:17 AM   
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It's fascinating to watch the kind of "issues" that get trotted out at politically convenient times.

- detainee bill in the Senate having only 4 Republicans flip; would more have flipped if there weren't midterms in about 8 minutes?

- 2 years ago before the 2004 elections: constitutional amendment on marriage and the right to die...both non-issues with no polling to support massive support for policy change

- in Canada several months ago, around when we added 2000 troops to the occupation of Afghanistan: an arrest of 17 alleged terrorists caught by a dubious RCMP sting

All this brings home the "reality" that there is nothing to fear but what political leaders think we should fear to support them better.

stephen buckley
dgiVista.org

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GOP Cong. Mark Foley
Posted by: kismarc on Sep 30, 2006 4:23 AM   
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I woder what this Religious Right crowd thinks of the recent scandal in which Republican Cong. Mark Foley was supposedly involved in an online sex scandal with underage teenage boys. House GOP leadership has tried to cover this up. Ironically, Foley was Co-Chair of the Congressional Caucus for Missing and Exploited Children.

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The Spiritual Left
Posted by: wawa on Sep 30, 2006 5:15 AM   
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Sunday, June 4, 2006
Spiritual Progressives Unite to confront the Religious Right, the Anti-Religious Left, and the Empire
by Eileen Fleming

An individual has not started living until he or she can rise above the narrow confines of his or her individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."-Martin Luther King, Jr.

During the third week of May, in Washington D.C. over 1,200 patriotic Americans of all faiths and the spiritual but not religious came together for the second conference of The Network of Spiritual Progressives/NSP and to lobby Congress. The activists are challenging the misuse of religion, God and spirit by the Religious Right and the anti-religious and anti-spiritual biases within the Liberal Left.

To be authentically spiritual one will inevitably become political. The NSP is a diverse community that is unified by one heart that is broken over the state of the world and our nation. These activists are willing to sacrifice their life, resources and time to the work of confronting the Old Bottom Line which is based on greed, materialism, selfishness, power and over consumption. The New Bottom Line proposes that institutions and social practices should be based on the higher values of love, caring, generosity, and equal human rights. The NSP proposes that the well being of every American depends on the well being of everyone in the world and recognizes our interdependence with all people and Mother Earth.


On May 18th the activists visited their Congressional Representatives to present "A Spiritual Covenant with America" an eight point platform that addresses individual, social and governmental responsibility for ethical behavior that honors the sacredness of all life. As the debate on immigration was going on in Congress many activists were promoting a rational approach to immigration through a strategy of non-violence and generosity that works to eliminate poverty not with a hand out but with furnishing the means and the support to enable the impoverished to attain a decent life. The NSP supports a "Global Marshall Plan to use 5% of the GDP of the advanced industrial societies-each year for the next twenty years-to end global poverty, hunger, homelessness, inadequate education, and inadequate health care. This will do more for homeland security and military safety than does sinking trillions of dollars into wars and strategies of world domination that can never work and are immoral…not by dumping money into the hands of corrupt governments, but through cooperation with NGO's committed to human rights, democracy, environmental sustainability and enhancement and respect for native cultures and traditions." [Number 7 in The Spiritual Covenant with America]


Many will say we are all dreamers, but it was dreamers who imagined life without slavery, civil rights, and women's rights. "You must give birth to your dreams: they are the future waiting to be born."-Rilke


These 'out-of-the-box' thinkers and visionaries will not be satisfied with any short-term political gain. The task of transforming society requires commitment, persistence and a deep inner life. What progressive spiritual activists have in common is a broken heart for the poor and oppressed, a commitment to total non-violent resistance no matter what the provocation, and sacrificial lives that offer time and resources to actualize the message Christ spoke of when he proclaimed the reign and the kingdom of God: in which every life is sacred and all are equal and valued just as they are.

TBC

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TBC: The Spiritual Left
Posted by: wawa on Sep 30, 2006 5:16 AM   
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In a country that possesses 11,000 nuclear weapons with many in excess of 20,000,000 tons of TNT [the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were 12,000 tons] yet claims to be based on the Judeo-Christian ethic of thou shalt not kill, is staggering in it's hypocrisy. The law of Karma is what goes around comes around and the fallout from one of these WMD will find its way back home through water and wind currents and the words of Pogo come to mind: "We have seen the enemy and he is us."


Mankind is the only species that has the choice of annihilating itself. "Since the end of the Cold War, the world has spent more than $10 trillion on armaments. The Untied States alone spends approximately $100 million every day to keep its nuclear arsenal at the ready." [Jonathon Granoff, TIKKUN Magazine 9/11/03]


American money proclaims "In God We Trust" but the facts on the ground are that we have become an empire of blasphemers. Fundamentalist Christians rail against abortion yet are for capital punishment and war. They have narrowed morality down to abortion and same sex marriage and neglect that God is love and where ever there is love: God is there.


If we are serious about a peaceful world we must have a moral agenda that stands firmly against empire building and violence. John Dear, the Jesuit priest who has been arrested 75 times for his peace activism asked Cesar Chavez what he thought was the key to peace, and Chavez exclaimed: "Public Action! Public action! Public action!"


In the '60's we understood if one is not a part of the solution, one is part of the problem. Throughout America patriotic spiritual activists of all faith paths and the spiritual but not religious have found common ground and are doing something more than criticizing and whining. Chapters of The Network of Spiritual Progressives are forming from the New York Islands to the Gulf Stream waters for this world belongs to all human beings.

Get Connected:
http://www.spiritualprogressives.org/

Read about the first conference of The Network of Spiritual Progressives in Chapter 12: The Revolution has started now..."KEEP HOPE ALIVE"
http://www.opednews.com/author/author1112.html

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Religous Right Are Fascists!
Posted by: hot_rad_man on Sep 30, 2006 5:41 AM   
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Whatever God they represent is not the God of Christianity, he is the God of Hell, he is Satan! These miscreants bastardize the religion and reduce it to political bed partners with the most evil empire in history. They must be branded for such abhorrent behavior and discredited on every account!

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» RE: eligous Right Are Fascists! Posted by: james2021
Michael Townes Watson
Posted by: michaeltwatson on Sep 30, 2006 5:43 AM   
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A really good read on the way to combat the right-wing moralists is the book "Take It Back" by Paul Begala and James Carville. There is a chapter on the sanctimonious and hypochritical Republicans, such as Florida's Foley, who use false religion to moralize. The point is that the progressive and humanitarian ideas of the so-called "liberals" are far more in tune with the Christian values stated in the Bible, that book that the right-wingers really know little about. Michael Townes Watson, author of America's Tunnel Vision--How Insurance Companies' Propaganda Is Corrupting Medicine and Law.. www.StopMedicalError.com

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» RE: Michael Townes Watson Posted by: Doubtom
Don't call these people something they are not - Christian
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Sep 30, 2006 7:52 AM   
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What are their "values"? Hate, lies, spin, love of money, bulding large monuments to their money god, contempt for the poor, taking money off of the top for aid, selling products in the name of their savior for profit, pro-war, pro-military, lovers of the flesh and the easy life, an obsession with end of times and are cheering for the death of this planet, belief in literal King James version of misinformation of earlier transcripts, ... They are ignorant of Christian history and it's theology but can regurgitate specific lines of their own interest.

These are not Christian values and these people are not Christians. They are splinter groups from the Roman Catholic church that became the leading "Christian" church by slaughtering all of the others. The history of these groups speaks for themselves as merchants of death and dead faith and works of deception and lies. Their contempt for human life becomes obvious when one doesn't beleive as they do.

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The Anti-Christ Rearing His Ugly Head!!!!
Posted by: lively56 on Sep 30, 2006 8:25 AM   
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If ever anyone believes there is an Anti-Christ, then the Repugs and their religeous fascists would definitely fit that bill. They can no longer hide their horns. These fire breathing demons have been backed in a corner, so now their fake skin is melting off their bodies. Their fangs are showing and they'er foaming at the mouth. But even as ugly as they may appear, we have to stand up to those monsters. They are nothing but a bunch spineless snakes.

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Religion on the decline
Posted by: zooeyhall on Sep 30, 2006 9:08 AM   
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My opinion is not too worry overmuch about these yahoos. I think the Fundies (and many mainstream churches), by allying themselves with the right-wing plutocracy in this country, have made a bargain with the devil. Eventually, people will realize that they don't have the answers to the real daily problems that ordinary people are facing. The author mentions in his article about the lack of health care, the increasing economic stress on the middle class, and the rising economic inequality in the US. People will realize that returning to the 1950's, or giving the Walton family another tax break, isn't going to help them pay for the health care their baby needs now. Or to help them get a job that pays a middle-class lifestyle.

Relgions in this country, by getting in bed with the politicians, and by supporting an unsustainable and grossly unequal economic system, have shot themselves in the foot. Sooner or later the reality is going to fall upon us--just like it did in the Great Depression. And the anger of the people duped by these people will will be the only thing left.

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» RE: eligion on the decline Posted by: aussidawg
Now We Know...
Posted by: thehousedog on Sep 30, 2006 9:58 AM   
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What it might be like to live in a country where an extreme point of view runs everything. Taliban? Extreme right-wing christian conservatives? Are they really just two ends of the same rope that will either whip the rest us into reality to fight them, or bind us into their conspiracy of despair?

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The "family values" party......
Posted by: tap17x on Sep 30, 2006 11:23 AM   
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........is truly "Christian." They favor capital punishment, torture, and war. Are these "family values?" They like everything Bush does, but Jesus might not.
The Religious Right, and many of the Republicans, are about as moral as Attila the Hun.

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Too, too cute!
Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 30, 2006 2:46 PM   
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I thought "I will survive" was a Grateful Dead song? Since when is it a gay anthem? As opposed to a liberated human anthem? No matter.

While I admit it sounds like it was a confederacy of dunces convention, surely this report is an opportunity for indicating what it might be compared to. Why do the journalists confine themselves, when reporting on dolts, to cherry pick idiots? Isn't that like having a fist fight with a drunk?

Or is it you just cannot pass up an opportunity to compound Republican nonsense with left wing supercilliousity? Aren't we cute.

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» I will get by.... Posted by: Michiganman
Hypocrits
Posted by: Jackieo on Sep 30, 2006 3:10 PM   
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The only word that really comes to mind, how did they all get there, guess we the stupid and uninformed did by our votes, so indirectly we all are responsible for the house cleaning we sorely need. Religion has no place in the white house, really unless they can see all sides with a very open mind, realizing that all people have a right to decide for themselves. I could say a lot here but it wouldn't be appropriate for me so shall just continue on the vein of total housecleaning. Back to the ways of the Constitutiion and the Bill of Rights, the only way we really nead to go for a great society - which leaves out GREED and Petty Peeves, begone now! We all have our rights, time to use them before they are totally lost, thanks.

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deluded, psychotic? What is ailing these people?
Posted by: WhatNow? on Sep 30, 2006 5:11 PM   
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At least Mike Huckabee seems to have some sanity and reason. The response towards him is another sad indicator of what type of people these are.

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The Religious Wrong
Posted by: dougo on Sep 30, 2006 5:22 PM   
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What happens to a persons thought process to allow their reality to become so skewed from what is happening around them. They are being used for political gain and they just don't get it. The Bush gang could give a shit less what happens as long as they continue to reap the rewards of their criminality. Millions of religious Americans live in abject poverty yet continue to vote against their own familys best interests. You were bought for $300 Bush gave working stiffs in the first tax cut while your state and local taxes went up well above that amount and you haven't gotten squat since. Millionaires that didn't need a tax cut got an additional $80,000 tax cut. How long does it take you to even make $80,000? Corporate profit is the highest since the so called gilded age and wages for you and me the lowest since then also. Gas prices double since Bushco Inc took power. Home energy double and triple. Georgie and Dicky love that. Food way up. The only thing that hasn't gone up is the freedom you once had. No longer people but sheeple. Baa

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the world is waiting
Posted by: brandweerspuit on Sep 30, 2006 5:30 PM   
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I find it reassuring to read on this website the many Americans who reject the bigotary and intolerance that is projected into our homes night after night by President Bush and his team. There was a time when we, in the rest of the world, looked up to America, respected it and admired it. If Americans allow the religious right to set their political agenda, if Americans continue to allow their democracy to be hijacked by those faceless carpetbaggers then what residual support that people outside of the USA had for Americans will be quickly drained away.
I only hope that these mid term elections will see a dramatic change in Republican numbers. A wake up call is what is needed - I refuse to believe that this mindless bigotary is shared by the majority of republicans, let alone the majority of Americans

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What to do? Organize, take active measures. That's what they do.
Posted by: PGC on Sep 30, 2006 6:49 PM   
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They don't leave things to chance. Or rather , they try hard not to. So you organize.
Take active measures.

A good place to start is to shed public light on those neuron assaulting technologies.

They use this technology as a huge effective backdrop around which to organize and propagandize.

And watch those paperless electronic ballots. They can be tampered with, even from space using said technology.

More details see: http://360.yahoo.com/etisoppa

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The hyprocracy of it all
Posted by: lafrance on Sep 30, 2006 7:11 PM   
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These people call themselves "christains" but, give stony silence when Huckabee suggests working with others to solve the problems of the day. To build bridges, understand others and help those less fortunate.
WWJD? He would hang his head in shame and embarassment over the people who get excited over bigotry and go cold over what he preached and brought the Christain movement to the forefront and lost his life for????
The religious right is not really christain afterall.

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Mao Tse Tung
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Oct 1, 2006 4:24 AM   
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Does anybody remember the stories from China about Mao swimming in a river (Yellow River?) to celebrate his 60th birthday? Incidentally I'd like to know how much Trek paid to get their name in the Bush story. (LOL)
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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Goes?
Posted by: mat38 on Oct 1, 2006 6:44 AM   
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They've owned Washington and most states for years. No wonder the freaking Democrats are just waking so out of touch with their base. What's next, an article about how the Paul Revere was a good horseback rider?

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The Religious Right: Religion as a Business
Posted by: sofla100 on Oct 1, 2006 10:59 AM   
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The Religious Right is basically religion as a business. That is, the way to an easy, laid back life, without having to worry about where the next meal comes from. Therefore, you shy away from controversy and support the status quo. When you are comfortable and fat, why rock the boat? In the South, religion as a business has been going on for generations. So many are "preachers" going to "bible colleges." You can argue of course that religion as a business is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus, and it is. Jesus is famous for imploring that his followers not lay up wealth in this world, but in the next. That is, wealth by good works such as being a good Samaritan and helping the poor and dowtrodden. The fact that nobody on the religious right cares much for the poor, is proof of the nearly total absorbtion of these individuals by the god of materialism. For Jesus, this would mean that they are under the sway of the Devil.

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Global Hypocrisy
Posted by: Cthulhu on Oct 1, 2006 11:06 AM   
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Government and religion do not make good bed fellows; they shouldn’t even be roommates. The irony is that we are in the world speaking out against theocracies and political dictatorships yet at home our own government is turning into that which we claim to abhor. Actions speak louder than words and our actions right now do not jive with our global rhetoric. We need to step back and take religion out of our political discourse here at home. Maybe then we can end Bush's monopoly on the "Truth", foster a more center leaning government, and combat the political polarization of our country. Religion will always have some type of an effect on our politics but for the sake of our democracy we need to limit its effect and return to a more logical way of governing.

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» RE: Global Hypocrisy Posted by: TheNamelessCity
RATS IN THE HOUSE
Posted by: TheStranger on Oct 1, 2006 2:34 PM   
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Republicans in Congress have no energy policy, and won’t place the increasingly dangerous warming of the planet on the agenda. They have no plan for Iraq or the rapidly deteriorating situation in Pakistan and Afghanistan -- other than the usual stay-the-course, masculine-sounding slogans, of course. They make not a peep about our disgraceful health care non-system – twice as expensive as Canada’s with 47 million citizens uncovered and the most deplorable infant mortality and longevity statistics in the Western World.

But they do have a moral policy. Yes, and thousands of pastors agree that the Democrats are immoral trash who, at the quickly approaching End of Times, will roast in everlasting patriotic fire that’s delicious to contemplate. Oddly enough, those thousands of pastors will still agree that a vote for the GOP is a vote for virtue even after they’ve been informed that House Republicans covered up sexual crimes and stayed the course around it.

Because yes, although it hasn’t really been brought up, Rep. Foley’s explicit instant messaging is on its very face a felony. Even if he didn’t consummate the deal with the objects of his desire, attempted seduction of minors is indeed a criminal offense. If a dirty old man cruises a schoolyard, tries to entice kids in his vehicle and then is scared off before he can reel one in, the law does not let him off. In fact, various police departments around the country have assigned detectives to pose as minors on the Internet and arrested and convicted men for the pedophiliac practices that Foley left as evidence. And there’s no more Johnny Cochran to turn to.

Think what the mass media would do if, say, Nancy Pelosi had joined a sexual-crime conspiracy and then awarded its principal offender with campaign funds. It will be interesting to see how the Republican leaders get treated on this. It’s difficult to see how Hastert and Company can slither away. Meanwhile, the White House is cracking apart – one revelation after another. It’s like a billion cockroaches. You can’t keep up with them. Recently we discovered, for example, that the White House threw a billion dollars in tax money at crackpot golf buddies to put together a national reading program for children that was opposed by all the education professionals.

Can these guys steal enough votes to get past this election? If they can’t, look out for investigations, subpoenas, indictments, and cornered criminals lining up to squeal on each other. Because after all, ratting each other out is the moral thing to do.

DIGGING DEEPER
By Ivan G. Goldman
http://ivangoldman.blogspot.com/

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hypercompetitive bike rides
Posted by: warpspasm on Oct 2, 2006 6:00 AM   
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The fact that hammering others on a bike ride is described as a "hypercompetive" way to "humiliate" others is bizarre. Should we all play duck, duck goose and sing kumbayah? Lurking in that statement is much that illustrates why the progressive agenda, which I support, can't be heard by many who need to hear it.

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Their Gay-Bashing Is So Ridiculous
Posted by: mstenger on Oct 2, 2006 11:54 AM   
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I am a gay American. My wife and I were married in Canada 2 years ago. When I read the kind of crap that these republican, christian hypocrites keep spreading and rallying around, I can't tell you how sick it makes me.

My life is good. I love my wife, we work hard, pay taxes, have a nice condo, 4 cats that are so needy and spoiled, and grandparents, parents, siblings, nieces & nephews, friends, neighbors and coworkers who are all a part of our VERY "NORMAL" LIVES.

We want to live happily and wish the same for others. Why do these crazies have to try to destroy our lives? It is horrible what they are doing to glbt people, and those who disagree with these monsters need to keep speaking out against them.

Thanks to all who stick up for their glbt fellow Americans. We need and appreciate your support!

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Christians ought to be ashamed of themselves
Posted by: Ellie1 on Oct 2, 2006 5:13 PM   
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they have allowed their religion and beliefs to be usurped by an evil power, used for evil ends, and either sat on their asses while it happened or allowed themselve to remain stupid and gullible. Christianity is no more of a religion than naziism. Both are evil and shameful.

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"Is King and King scarier than a fatwa?"
Posted by: undercover on Oct 5, 2006 1:28 AM   
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Do you know what a fatwa is? It might do the author some good to do a bit of research (or a 10 second web search) before using a term she isn't quite familiar with. A fatwa is just a legal opinion from a religous jurist about any matter in Islamic jurisprudence that has never come up before (e.g. "Can I chew gum when I'm fasting?") You might be SHOCKED to know that fatwas are being issued EVERY DAY even within the borders of our own country!!

I'm quivering in my burka just thinking about it.

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