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On the Catwalk, How Thin is Too Thin?

By Juliette Terzieff, Women's eNews. Posted September 28, 2006.


Last week's Spanish ban on underweight models was a shock to the fashion world -- but women activists and health specialists are applauding it.
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Spain's top fashion show made international headlines this week not for the clothes on display but for the size of the women wearing them.

The Sept. 13 decision from the Madrid regional government to enforce a ban on underweight models for Madrid Fashion Week catwalks has sent shock waves through the global fashion industry and set off a chorus of calls to expand the ban and formulate a new industry standard. The government's decision is intended to promote a healthier body image.

The unprecedented move marked the first time organizers of a major fashion show imposed weight limits in line with World Health Organization guidelines for healthy height-to-weight ratios used to calculate a person's body mass index, which estimates the portion of fat in the body.

Over 30 percent of the models who appeared in Madrid shows last year were disqualified under the new guidelines that will likely prevent the participation of top models such as Brazil's Fabiana, Spain's Esther Canadas, Britain's Kate Moss and Estonia native Carmen Kass.

"This is a great call to global action," says Lynn Grefe, chief executive officer of the Seattle-based National Eating Disorders Association.

"We worked hard to restrict advertising for alcohol and tobacco because of the potential dangers to our young people, and fashion is now the only major industry without health guidelines," Grefe said. "It is high time we ask for some responsibility from within the industry for the impact fashion has on potentially life-threatening eating disorders."

International Reaction

Reaction from the international fashion industry was varied, but many governments seem prepared to pick up Spain's cue, as the enforcement decision spread through news outlets around the world.

British Culture Minister Tessa Jowell publicly applauded the move to comply by the organizers of Pasarela Cibeles, Spain's premiere fashion event, while Letizia Moratti, the mayor of Milan, Italy, threatened a similar ban on too-thin models if the city could not negotiate voluntary terms with fashion designers and agencies.

India's Health Minister Anbumani Ramadoss said his country is also concerned with stick-thin models and their admirers, and hoped Madrid's move "makes young girls focus more on being healthy and lean rather than starving and skinny."

Edinburgh, Scotland, announced it would follow Madrid's lead, banning any model with a BMI of less than 18. A BMI of 18.5 or below is considered underweight by the World Health Organization, anything 25 or over is considered overweight. The average BMI for top models is 16.3, according to data from the National Eating Disorders Association. Top U.S. designer Michael Kors also jumped into the fray.

"Thin is fine but it has to be healthy," Kors said at a press conference last week. "When I see a model come in and I can tell this is not naturally how they're supposed to look, we won't book them."

Other Shows Stick to Status Quo

Madrid is considered a major player on the European fashion scene and is no stranger to controversial shows. But the city lacks the clout of fashion capitals like Paris, London and New York, where the topic has been hotly debated in the last two weeks. All three cities went ahead with plans for their fashion weeks without imposing any weight restrictions.

While some within the fashion world chafed at the industry being made a scapegoat for contributing to a rise in eating disorders, New York-based DNA Models' Chief Executive David Bonnouvrier said during New York's fashion week that the industry standard should focus on "beauty and luxury, not famished-looking people that look pale and sick."


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Juliette Terzieff is a freelance journalist currently based in Buffalo, New York who has worked for the San Francisco Chronicle, Newsweek, CNN International, and the London Sunday Times during time spent in the Balkans, the Middle East, and South Asia.

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i don't understand
Posted by: browngoddess on Sep 28, 2006 1:20 AM   
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i'm glad people are stepping up and banning models who promote a negative self-image among women and girls, but one just has to ask: what the hell makes these little twigs so attractive to begin with? they are just so disgusting to look at. how sad that they starve themselves and throw up what they eat when there are people in this world who really are starving and don't have the choice of doing so.

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decent
Posted by: rsaxto on Sep 28, 2006 1:47 AM   
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The Bushies should take lessons from Spain on how to create a decent society.

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Ever asked youself why do they like them so slim ?
Posted by: ShoShenQ on Sep 28, 2006 2:03 AM   
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Ever asked youself why do they like them so slim ?

Imho its because most of the fashion makers are old homosexuals who prefer the women to look like the gorgeous young guys they crave, or like very young women at the very least.

I mean heterosexual men prefer more or less curvy women, for the majority of us anyway, so this is my 0.02 $, although i could care less.

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Paternalism
Posted by: ISlamIslam on Sep 28, 2006 3:08 AM   
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I find the whole thing sexist and paternalistic. After all, where are the bans on football players bulking up to 300+ pounds (with or without the use of steroids) or sumo wrestlers stuffing themselves with food to weigh God-knows-what? Being grossly overweight is far more detrimental to one's health than being underweight, and there is even much evidence to suggest that being underweight all your life increases longevity. The most these women are doing is making themselves less attractive than they otherwise would be.

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A good tendency
Posted by: talkville on Sep 28, 2006 3:25 AM   
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The tyranny of the image and of fashion was all but accomplished, I thought. From Spain a flash of sanity finally, and the celebration of actual, living, breathing human beings in splendid variety. Hopefully, the sanity will spread. When 'the model' defines the human, not the other way around, one begins to wonder - and not only on the 'runways'.

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It's the free market
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Sep 28, 2006 3:56 AM   
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Sickly 2x4-thin models wearing outrageous, overpriced outfits nobody would be caught dead wearing in real life.

I guess they make money somehow, which is the bottom line.

They can ban all they want in Europe. They'll just move the industry to 3rd-world countries like they did with manufacturing and tech.

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A change for the better...
Posted by: isdnelson on Sep 28, 2006 4:21 AM   
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As a relatively thin individual myself (due to genetics only), I'm glad that the fashion industry has put its foot down and is promoting a healthier lifestyle for models. However, I hope they are also careful on how they judge what is and is not acceptable. Slender can certainly be both beautiful and healthy at the same time--it all depends on the individual. Regardless, I find little less attractive in humans than self-imposed emaciation.

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the market will switch
Posted by: cold2touch on Sep 28, 2006 5:57 AM   
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to genetically modified bycicles that these models were starting to resemble anyhow. The show is run by woman-haters and you can't deny them their perversions.

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This is a repressive idea
Posted by: jpinder on Sep 28, 2006 6:37 AM   
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If the public is not happy with the appearance of these models, stop watching and buying the shit! Then it will all disappear. I don't agree there should be a ban, what's next a ban on the obese. I think whoever agrees on this is probably fat and or old. don't ban, educate.

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2 Thoughts
Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 28, 2006 7:02 AM   
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1 With all of the issues in the World this is what made it's way to the top of the agenda? Maybe the spanish are crazy from the heat...

2 A lot of the models I see in print ads look like they need 2 things: a good meal and a shower.

BTW-Those that have tattoos should go to a dermatologist and have them removed. Who decided that beautiful women need to get inked like truck drivers, sailors and bikers?

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Sparks
Posted by: Sparks on Sep 28, 2006 7:06 AM   
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I wouldn't say it's bigotry to recognize that gay males are a powerful force in the fashion industry and that their ideals of female beauty do not match heterosexual males. I doubt they do it intentioanly but gay men don't see women in terms of procreation thus have no use for ample figures. As far as clothes looking better on thin models I imagine it depends on the clothes. Forget the ban, just give people a better alternative and let them gravitate towards it over time. We can't ban peoples size that's insane. We can't ostracize thin people either. The fact is some people are thin. Will we find ourselves discriminating against thin women in years to come because we got so carried away in our efforts to end the discrimination against larger people? Referring to large women as "real women" IS ever bit as discriminatory and offensive. We are all "real women" regardless of our size. Ultimately the sick thing isn't too thin women or too large women it's peoples, men and womens, fixation on female bodies and what they SHOULD be. We don't fixate on what men SHOULD look like in the same way we do to females. Why not leave everyone alone and let them be?

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dying to be thin
Posted by: karyse on Sep 28, 2006 8:13 AM   
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It's difficult for me to believe how many of the posters herein ignored the stats presented in favor of responding with value claims. (In argumentation a value claim is a claim that addresses a things relative goodness/badness, beauty/ugly, worthiness, etc.)

The claims of fact (in argumentation, claims that can be proven true or false) presented in the article that caused me to think "holy shit" were:
1. Anorexia is a mental illness that ... causes more deaths among females aged 15 to 24 than all other causes combined.
If this is true (though with the journalist tendency to just make up statistics whole cloth, I would have to confirm them before believing it), it is a major problem. Holy shit, does anyone understand "ALL OTHER CAUSES COMBINED"?

2. ... an estimated 10 million girls and women and 1 million men affected by anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, binge-eating and other eating disorders.
Holy shit. Men too.

And one of the posters actually made up his/her own "fact" that being thin increases lifespan. Absolutely no science behind this "statistic." In fact, quite the opposite is true. Being slightly "overweight" has been shown time and time again to be healthier. Do you think that the weight loss industry, which is worth billions of dollars each year, is going to tell you that?

3. In 1965, models weighed an average of 8 percent less than the typical woman in the United States; the average model now weighs 23 percent less than the average woman, according to the National Eating Disorders Association.
Holy shit, "23 percent less" -- there is someting seriously wrong with the fashion industry, and the first designer to seriously design for "normal" wieght women, will make a fortune.

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WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO STOP PROTECTING US AND LET US ALONE???
Posted by: alicelillie on Sep 28, 2006 8:42 AM   
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This sort of law is intrusive and overprotective. It is the flip side of the Bush establishment, which has taken our privacy and other civil liberties away.

What about the freedom to decide what and how much to eat and what not to eat, or *whether* to eat?

Can't the government just leave people alone? They have no more right to regulate the modeling industry than they have to spy on us or force "democracy" on Iraq.

Another thing. I am 5' 9" and weigh 156. Pretty normal. But as a 20 year old I weighed in at 120. As a teen, even thinner. I ate like a pig but never started gaining weight until I was 30. I do love to eat so it was a blessing. Now I have to curb my appetite which, fortunately, has diminished with age.

But the point is, in my case at least this was natural. What would have happened if there had been government standards about this then? How would I have fared in school? Would I have been barred from precious sport activities? Being of athletic build and a very high energy level it would have ruined my youth. And, would I have been forced to take medications?

No. I would have run.

Even if this is not natural in a particular woman, she has the right to decide what to do. And a modeling agency has the right to decide whether to hire her or discriminate against her.

Also, where are your pro-choicers? Does she not have the right to control her own body?

I know these models are ridiculously unlike us ordinary mortals in their dimensions. We all know that. I don't know about you, but I pay no attention to what is on the runways. I pay attention to what I see in the fitting room mirror.

Be independent!

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Not just Spain
Posted by: yank in london on Sep 28, 2006 8:44 AM   
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Milan has also taken baby steps in this direction. They haven't banned the under-nourished sticks but are featuring some, shall we say, fuller figured models.

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Maybe just a publicity stunt for Madrid?
Posted by: meander on Sep 28, 2006 11:20 AM   
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It's a start, but let's not get to excited. Madrid is not exactly the fashion capital of the world. It's like L.A. or San Francisco imposing such a restriction on their fashion weeks. Talking about the exclusion of powerhouses Moss and Kass is an exageration of the ban's impact. Moss for example rarely walks the runway any more, and would certainly never do so for any collection that would be shown in Madrid. The same goes for Kass. Until you start seeing crackdowns in Paris, NY, London, and Milan-where the real money in this industry is- this ban will just be making Madrid's fashion week, not anorexic models, irrelevant to the industry.

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Thanks for the Article Alternet!!!
Posted by: aussidawg on Sep 28, 2006 11:25 AM   
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I greatly appreciate Alternet's posting of this article. Although I hate to see people trying to regulate other's behavior, the issue of eating disorders and fashion hits home for me personally. I have twin 16 year old daughters, and the social pressure on them to be "skinny" is unbelieveable. They are both cross country runners, and run at least 7 miles per day. However, even though they are thin as rails, they are constantly fretting over their weight and appearance. As such, they refuse to eat sufficient amounts of the proper foods daily to remain healthy. It seems as if the most important thing in their life is to be thinner than anyone else they know, even if they get sick in the process. Their friends think the same way, and therefore, these girls are in constant competition with each other to be the thinnest out of the group. This behavior alarms the heck out of me, and I have found that no matter how hard you try, or whatever you do, it is impossible to help someone who doesn't want help, even if they are your child. A few years back, I met a terrific woman that was suffering from Anorexia Nervosa. She knew she had a problem, and even though she sought and was receiving professional help, she still could not control her eating habits. This woman was so emaciated and the visible prominance of her skeletal features was absolutely shocking. In spite of her appearance and health, she still saw herself as obese, and her health continued to deteriorate. About 6 months after I met this person, her illness won and she died of malnutrition. I can't convey to you what an utter sense of helplessness surrounds those who witness another person killing themselves because of such an obsession on personal appearance. Hopefully, this article will be able to reach a few of those who suffer eating disorders and cause them to get help before it is too late. Further, perhaps with this problem being highlighted in the press as it has recently, perhaps this will help turn the fasion industry away from promoting the image of the skinnier the better, and towards a more healthy image.

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Mixed Feelings!
Posted by: Gravitas on Sep 28, 2006 11:41 AM   
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I have very mixed feelings about this since I am a devoted size acceptance advocate. I do know a few people naturally that thin, and it does not seem fair they should be banned when that is just their metabolism at work.

I am also sick of the new religion of "healthism." Are they next going to ban plus sized models based on all those antifat scare studies (mostly sponsored by the diet/pharmaecutical industry to increase profits)? I think subjecting art to health standards is as perverse as censorship due to religious reasons. Will it get to the point only models with the latest junk science approved BMI be allowed!

On the other hand, eating disorders are rampant. Women and girls are killing themselves to achieve unrealistic standards. And it is not just anorexia and bulemia. Most people don't realize that the diet/binge phenomena which contributes to weight gain is also a result of weight obsession.

I think they should look at each model individually. Certainly practices like drug use and bulemia should be outlawed. No model should have to go through that. But if she is naturally thin, she should not be discriminated against either!

"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there would still be time."

and

"If you don't like the size of my rear kindly kiss my cellulite!"

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Not the worst idea
Posted by: mviscid on Sep 28, 2006 12:02 PM   
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While I'm not wild about out-n-out bans on people types, I do see some progress in this. (Of course, it's progress in a narrow sense. We live in a world where too many people starve from a sheer lack of access to food. Women in post-communist Russia, anyone?)

But here in my reality-bubble of plenty, yes, I think this progress. The fashion industry set standards. It's like the one case I can point to where trickle-down actually happens. Not that ripped-gauze & safety-pin shirts stock Target shelves but there is some continuity between runway trends and stores for us regular people. (Me, I don't have much money but try to always buy from second-hand shops or homegrown designers like Mode Merr and Lilli Jean when I can, usually after my tax refund!)

It's my understanding that fashion photography trends spread to television, movies, and other visual media. If someone's buying Vanity Fair, Cosmo et al., it seems to me their self-esteem may already be vulnerable. It's preying on the weak! If measures like the one in Madrid aren't taken, where will the push for change come from? How long did the skinny/low-rise jean thing last before companies relented, despite repeated pleas from women? 10 years?

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On Nov. 14th, Watch HBO's documentary THIN
Posted by: janefleming on Sep 28, 2006 12:56 PM   
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As a society, we can not allow an industry to destroy their employee’s health and that is exactly what the fashion industry—for the most part—has done to models.

In my work in the eating disorder field at the Renfrew Center and at an eating disorder lobby group called the Eating Disorders Coalition, I met lots of ex-models—every single one of them was in recovery and every single one of them had long term health complications because of it.

There is no reason not to have a minimum weight for models in order to work. Now, I don’t want them to do public weigh-ins, since that will spawn unnecessary competition among the women and men—but we should always keep employees healthy—even in the fashion industry, even with models.

There is a great documentary that has been featured at Sundance and other indie festivals and will air on HBO on Nov. 14th- its called THIN and when you watch it you will see just how life threatening and complicated eating disorders are and how hard it is to fully recover.

And in the political world, we continue to ignore eating disorders, they get cut out of the few mental health bills that are put on the Congressional floor—until recently where Clinton and Kennedy have been making sure they are included in mental health parity bills and prevention bills (as did Wellstone before he passed away).

While nothing has passed because of a Republican led Congress—I have hope that things are turning around, especially if the fashion industry is even having the dialogue about how serious and life threatening eating disorders are to women and men.

-jane fleming
Eating Politics Blog

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Save us from ourselves . . .
Posted by: JCR on Sep 28, 2006 3:50 PM   
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Thank god someone is stepping forward to save these poor little waifs from themselves. I mean honestly - who in their right mind would presume to think that they can actually decline to be models if they don't like crash diets, drug addiction and the health problems that accompany such behavior? Although to be fair, I have been hearing some harrowing accounts of models forced to "eat" through straws while someone holds a gun to their head, stuffing C-notes in their size 0 bikinis the whole time . . .

Yes big brother is now at work in virtually every aspect of our lives. As another poster mentioned earlier, we'll soon be barring overweight folks from the public spotlight as well. After all, which ailment kills more people - anorexia or heart disease and/or diabetes? While were at it let's just start regulating everyone and everything that promotes an unhealthy lifestyle. I know I'll sleep better tonight knowing that Kate Moss may think twice before skipping that piece of cheese cake . . .

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Jay M.
Posted by: jmooney on Sep 28, 2006 4:37 PM   
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I am a lifelong liberal, but I am starting to wonder if government the world over isn't going crazy with the micromanaging of people's lives. If women want to starve themselves to be models, I say, let 'em. If we're afraid young girls are going to try to emulate waif-like models, then we should do a little parenting, but I guess that's a radical idea in this day and age.

The man most responsible for our modern, massive U. S. federal government, Abraham Lincoln, once said: "You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." To that I'd add, "Government can protect some of the people some of the time, but it can't protect all of the people all of the time."

I say, "Let 'em NOT eat cake!"

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This topic is stupid
Posted by: cinattra on Sep 29, 2006 3:17 PM   
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This is a stupid topic because it focuses on the wrong thing. I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a modeling show... umm... I'd have to go with like never. I seriously doubt it is runways shows making little girls want to be skinny.

Weighing models before they do go out and do the catwalk is just stupid.

There are some sports that encourage behavior that can be just as wreckless if not more so than being skinny. Wrestling, boxing or any sport that requires the athelete to "cut-weight".

If you're not familiar with cutting weight it is when an athelete about a couple of weeks (sometimes just days) before his sporting event drastically tries to lose weight so when he weighs in he will weigh less than his normal weight. Weigh ins or typically the day before the event so that participants have time to recover from the extreme weight loss.

Government is supposed to grease the wheels of commerce not hinder. The industry should self-regulate if anything. The last thing need is a law written by a group of men that will regulate what women can do with their bodies.

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Bravo!
Posted by: eastcoker on Sep 29, 2006 7:34 PM   
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Thank you for this excellent article. It is excellent to raise consciousness that anorexia is a mental illness. This is not common public awareness, unfortunately. Now we need to bring this information into the public schools, starting in the elementary schools. Girls as young as 5 can worry about being fat. They are influenced by older girls. Our culture is destroying healthy womanhood.

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Bullsh!t
Posted by: Whistler on Sep 30, 2006 12:09 AM   
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My emotions on this is mixed. While promoting anorexia and bulimia is unhealthy, promoting what bodies become from a steady McDonald's diet is ten times worse. Would Spain and all the applauders of the waif ban continue applauding if they banned fat women from the runway?

All this "concern" over the physical hazzards of being a model is bogus. The rationale is that when it gets to the extreme of anorexia, its unhealthy. Fine, except that most models are not anorexic. The hypocrisy is that I can think right off the top of my head at least 20 other professions (just for starters) that are a whole lot more dangerous than eating too little. When was the last time anyone was so "concerned" about the world's top high jumpers, most of whom have purposely waifed themselves - male and female? What about the soldiers Spain sent to Iraq purely for sport. Then there is the obesity epidemic which is actually on the rise. Fat people, on average, suffer a whole more ill health than their skinny counterparts. Fat folks are even less secure because they cannot do much running when shit hits the fan. Remember the Lebanon scenes of July? Who do you think were the slowest to haul ass - not counting the infirm, the elderly and the infants? Take one guess.

Should they ban all the martial arts? Hardly a single participant goes through a career without serious brain damage.

American football? After their careers, they're all limping.

So why all this focus on super thin models. Believe it or not if you watch most of the runways, the anorexic ones are in the minority. Anorexia is a sickness no worse than all the other life-threatening sicknesses. One thing I do know for sure, after modeling, most models live healthy normal lives - free of chronic conditions caused as a direct result of being skinny for a few years. The same cannot be said about all the other dangerous professions.

The real attack is - as usual - against pretty and glamorous women. The focus on the waif is just used as a piss-poor excuse. So many folks always seem to be soooo "concerned" about the mental and physical health of the pretty woman. They wonder out loud if she has anything "upstairs." However, no one ever seems to be "concerned" about the women who are short or ugly or fat. When was the last time anyone was so "concerned" about their health as a result of their lifestyle or whether they had something "upstairs?" Truth be told, nobody seems to give a damn. So the yardstick for measuring pretty women is not the same as the one measuring all people - male and female.

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Ban women's magazines and...
Posted by: Aussie Kim on Oct 1, 2006 9:16 PM   
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...air-brushing of photos and general photo manipulation, etc, etc.

That should help too, although there's almost no way to enforce any of this...

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