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Gitmo From the Inside

By Onnesha Roychoudhuri, AlterNet. Posted September 27, 2006.


An innocent man talks about his three years as a detainee and wonders if he can ever learn to forgive his American captors.
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When Moazzam Begg was abducted from his home in the middle of the night on Jan. 31, 2002, he thought he was being kidnapped by thugs. Those thugs turned out to be the U.S. military and CIA. Begg was shuffled from Kandahar to Bagram to Guantanamo and held for three years before he was finally released in January 2005. As with the majority of the other detainees, Begg was never charged with any crime.

He and others endured routine physical and psychological torture, indefinite imprisonment, and solitary confinement. While it's nearly impossible to fathom emerging from years of this abuse and wrongful imprisonment, it is perhaps even more of a stretch to imagine being capable of forgiving your captors. Begg’s new book, "Enemy Combatant: A British Muslim's Journey to Guantanamo and Back," co-written with Victoria Brittain, puts his experience in context of the broader war on terror. As one of the few English-speaking detainees, Begg is a powerful witness to the massive failure of U.S. and British military intelligence in preventing terrorism.

Onnesha Roychoudhuri: When did you first decide you were going to write this book?

Moazzam Begg: Oddly enough, the suggestions to write the book came from U.S. soldiers, interrogators, and other detainees. They were fascinated by the story, by my experiences. The more open-minded ones even understood that writing about this episode is a very important piece of history.

Roychoudhuri: Can you take me to the beginnings of your story? What led you to Afghanistan and Pakistan? Were you were abducted and taken to Kandahar?

Begg: In 2000, I had already begun working on a project to build wells in the northwest region of Afghanistan. At that time, there were some severe droughts. We had built over ten wells as a community from here where I lived with my family and other members. We'd also begun a project to build a school for girls in Kabul, which was a novelty because we were all told that the Taliban wouldn't allow female education. That's something that my wife and I had invested in and that we pursued as a family in 2001when we moved there to continue to help the progress of the school.

Roychoudhuri: You were first abducted in Pakistan. Can you describe what happened?

Begg: We had evacuated to Pakistan after the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan. Pakistan is where my parents are from, and I speak Urdu, so it was easy for me to be there. I was safe for a few months until I was abducted on the night of Jan. 31, 2002. There was a knock on the door, [and] I answered to be faced with people pointing guns. They pushed me to the ground, dragged me across the floor, took me into the front room, put a bag over my head, bound my legs and wrists, and then carried me off into the back of this vehicle.

Roychoudhuri: What were you thinking at the time?

Begg: That this was a kidnapping. I thought that they were local gangsters. They didn't identify themselves, ask me who I was, or show identification and they didn't search me. For the first ten minutes, I thought that these guys were gangsters until one of them pulled my hood up.

There was a Caucasian trying to look like a local and doing a pretty bad job at it. He had this black thing wrapped around his head in a style that no local would ever do; it just looked funny. It was funny and frightening all at the same time. He produced handcuffs and said that he was an American, and that he got the handcuffs from one of the wives of the 9/11 victims who had told him to go catch the perpetrators. So then I realized that this was obviously the CIA, and that things were going to get worse probably before they got better.

Overkill is a good description of how people reacted in the broader picture of both the terrible terrorist attacks, but also the response to that attack. We occupied two countries with populations in total of over 30 or 40 million. That's a huge overreaction.

Roychoudhuri: When you were first kidnapped, you were taken to a Pakistani jail. What happened there?

Begg: I was afraid of being in Pakistani custody because it's well-known that you get beaten. They're notorious for getting all kinds of confessions. At first, I was glad that there were Americans there. But the irony is that the Pakistanis were extremely apologetic, they called me "son," they said they felt bad about what was happened, that I was fully legal in the country as far as they were concerned. But they said the Americans were telling them to do this, and that they have to be either with them, as the president said, or against them. The great paradox was that the second I was transferred to U.S. custody, that's when the brutality began.

Roychoudhuri: From Pakistan, you were sent to Kandahar, then Bagram?

Begg: I was held in Kandahar for about six weeks. That was the most brutal processing experience I had. When I was held by the Pakistanis, they didn't shackle me, they just put a towel over my head when I was moving around so I couldn't see things. But with the Americans, it was the legs shackled, hands behind your back, clothes torn off with a knife, dogs barking, being beaten, punched, shaved, having trophy photographs taken by soldiers, and being naked and interrogated. I could never have imagined this was how the United States treated people. It was clear that the process of dehumanization was already in effect from the moment I reached Kandahar.


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Onnesha Roychoudhuri is a Brooklyn-based freelance writer. A former assistant editor at AlterNet, she has also written for MotherJones.com, Women's e-News and PopMatters.

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Stand up and be counted (Maybe)
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 27, 2006 12:10 AM   
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Is this the reason why so many people on AlterNet don't use their real names? Are you afraid of getting a knock on your door in the middle of the night, like this poor guy, and being hauled off in the middle of the night for some interragation in a far off land?

Ha! Cowards! Stand up and be counted!

Sincerely,
John Smith

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» THE GEORGE W. BUSH FAN CLUB Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: THE GEORGE W. BUSH FAN CLUB Posted by: talkville
» Well, yeah! Posted by: Lizmv
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» RE: Well, yeah!..sickofsleaze what's so.. Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
A significant and important read
Posted by: talkville on Sep 27, 2006 12:32 AM   
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Although this is a 'subjective' report and it will be attacked and countered by many of our 'enlightened and self-interested' compatriots, I can only hope that its content be carefully and thoughtfully considered by as many readers as possible. It's terribly disconcerting that this man's report is referred to as a 'story'. This, to him as to all of us human beings, is much, much more than a 'story'. Among other things, it is living (or dying) in our modern and so enlightened period.

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military and CIA
Posted by: rsaxto on Sep 27, 2006 1:23 AM   
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"he thought he was being kidnapped by thugs." He was right, he was kidnapped by military and CIA thugs financed by our tax dollars. Impeach the thug government that had him kidnapped.

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Amazing.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Sep 27, 2006 6:04 AM   
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I'm astounded by the reaction to this story. When I saw the heading of Tom Degan's post. I said", "At last somebody on this board is for action". What a disappointment. Not one poster has mentioned torture. Not one is angered by torture. Not one seems to feel responsible as a citizen for torture carried out in his/her name. Liberals like to compare Republicans to Nazis but are liberals or anyone else who condone torture any better? I think that any person who claims to be human should be against torture unequivically.

You can't say, "I'm not guilty because I didn't vote for Bush". You are guilty because you're silent. Literally take a stand against the government and be counted. Are you afraid that you're in a minority? If you are, do you want to be counted as one of the barbaric horde? Will your conscience allow it?

We can at least try to take control of the government. We can let them know that we as individuals have the guts to oppose them openly. Join The Lincoln Initiative put your name on record against torture. Tell both parties that you can't vote for a party that doesn't uphold The Geneva Convention.

You don't have to go into the street and face the riot squads. All that you have to do is write one e-mail addressed to both parties and then e-mail your friends and family and ask them to join the movement. It costs nothing and takes five minutes of your time.

Click on Do it now. There you'll find sample e-mails and the necessary addresses. Do it today; sleep better tonight.
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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» RE: Amazing? Why? Posted by: Techubus
» RE: Amazing? Why? Posted by: rinthy
Other Detainees
Posted by: Sparks on Sep 27, 2006 7:09 AM   
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I have read other accounts of Gauntanamo detainees and this does not go into detail regarding what sorts of torture are being used. Allegations I am aware of include US medical personnel intentionally maiming prisoners in the course treatment, administering contaminated blood transfusions, female soldiers smearing menstrual blood on detainees in a manner which amounts to sexual abuse. Plus I resent the portion of the article which refers to the soldiers beating a man a death as a result of being ”desensitized”. It reminds me of cops who blame police brutality on adrenaline. These people have to be held responsible.

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» RE: Other Detainees/ Menstrual Blood Posted by: lawstudent08
Tired self righteous- self pitying "9/11 victims"
Posted by: Sparks on Sep 27, 2006 7:17 AM   
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“He produced handcuffs and said that he was an American, and that he got the handcuffs from one of the wives of the 9/11 victims who had told him to go catch the perpetrators.”


This exactly the sort of total crap a self righteous white American would blubber about. What an A-HOLE. Do tough talking rednecks make people ashamed to be American? It’s right up there with “shock and awe”. If I had sympathy for 9/11 victims this would be the sort of thing that makes me lose my sympathy fast. How did all the 9/11 victims become men anyway?

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» Not really "9/11 victims" like that Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
The lying liars and allied bastards
Posted by: cold2touch on Sep 27, 2006 9:41 AM   
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It is an expectedly heartbreaking story in how engagingly human all these poor guys are, yelling "bon appetit" or "good morning, salaam al-aleikum" in unison, though separated by chickenwire and blindfolds.
I wonder whether such display of common decency could be expected among Americans in a similar position, accustomed as we are to alienation, mutual suspicion and envy.

How often do we now hear as one of the motives for staying in Afghanistan and perpetuating daily mass murder of "Taliban" (who is counting? Who cares?) through indicriminate use of depleted uranium is "because of their treatment of women"?
Well, I no longer believe anything they say, this quote is taken from the article: We'd also begun a project to build a school for girls in Kabul, which was a novelty because we were all told that the Taliban wouldn't allow female education.
So this is where Taliban ideology was heading before our brave air force smeared their defenseless country into powder.
Goddam lying liars.

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Great article!
Posted by: harris on Sep 27, 2006 1:59 PM   
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The part about the army psychologist suggesting a suicide plan to him is sickening.
I'm glad he had the strength to survive for his family. That this stuff goes on in the name of America makes me sick.

The idiot major who thinks it's a sign of high intelligence to know what a pixel is - unfortunately I think a lot of people are down at that level.
I imagine someone simply scanning a website like this for posts using key words that a "liberal dissident" would write then passing it onto higher ups (who hopefully are better educated and more perceptive and reasonning).

Secret prisons and torture have been going on a lot longer than Bush, it's just hitting the fan now; but I've been reading a lot about the Bush admin. torture/Geneva Convention stuff, and in combination with the domestic removals of rights and the blacked out "news" in the US, it's really making me want to move back to Germany and become an EU citizen.

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» RE: Great article! Posted by: Revolutionary
As Guilty as Stalin and Hitler's Camp Guards
Posted by: sofla100 on Sep 27, 2006 2:31 PM   
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Guantanamo should be seen as the "tipping point" of what will be seen historically as a radical change in American government and culture. We should view everyone of the psychologists, doctors and guards at Guantanamo in the context of how we viewed the guards in Stalin or Hitlers camps. The fact that they are not guilty of the extreme torture and depravity of the gulags is not an excuse. Because they opened the door for what will come, history will judge "what will come" upon them. With the occurence of another terrorist attack on America, we can look forward to more concentration camps, more surveillance, more of the "you are with us or against us" idealogy and the like. Those who think this is an exaggeration and not possible in America need to return to their history books. In the Weimar Republic of Germany, known for its advanced culture of the time, Hitler was popularly elected. Dictators and tyrants have often emerged in history and wrecked havoc upon their peoples and countries.

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I read this book last week and highly recommend it
Posted by: logansafi on Sep 27, 2006 3:46 PM   
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This is a great book. It may be one of the best books ever in regard to exploring the psychology of the various concentraqtion camp guards, police, soldiers, and adminstrators involved in such a place. The author is highly educated, speaks English as well as several other languages, and was culturally knowlegable about the guards he had to deal with, as well as many of the other prisoners he was thrown with.

Anybody else see the comment that Musharraf just said recently to the press about how Pakistan had received millions for turning over these hapless folk to the US. Shoot, and most of the world thought that slavery had been declared illegal by the US years ago! Just goes to show how ignorant we really are.

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Kinda makes one proud.
Posted by: ssegallmd on Sep 27, 2006 4:31 PM   
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"Oh, say can you see...

"I could never have imagined this was how the United States treated people."

...by the dawn's early light.

"I was afraid of being in Pakistani custody because it's well-known that you get beaten. At first, I was glad that there were Americans there. The great paradox was that the second I was transferred to U.S. custody, that's when the brutality began."

What so proudly we hailed...

"So then I realized that this was obviously the CIA, and that things were going to get worse probably before they got better."

at the twilight's last gleaming?

"cruel, inhuman, degrading treatment"

Whose broad stripes and bright stars ...

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Weep then write
Posted by: Christie on Sep 27, 2006 5:32 PM   
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Sometimes, when I read information about what is going on today in our name as Americans, such as this dispassionately told yet deeply moving story, I go to the online Site of the lyrics and music of “America the Beautiful”. As the song is played, I read the words of each verse and weep.

I also have written to my Congressmen about the bills concerning torture and about the widespread voter fraud via electronic touch screen voting machines. I don’t believe I need to persuade my two (Democratic) Senators to vote right, but perhaps it encourages them to pursue more passionate redress for these and other vital issues. Remember, statistically each person who writes about an issue is presumed to represent one thousand people. Think, if everyone on this Site wrote their Senators and Representatives about these issues, what an impact it could have. It might stiffen their backbones to take more vigorous action.

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Well duh
Posted by: Gregor on Sep 27, 2006 6:37 PM   
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Look who is in our military now? Rednecks, dumbshits who couldn't pass school. We need a draft to have an across the board stratum of intelligence, not criminals enlisted by the military into the army!

No I do not agree with war, but as long as we have no draft, we will have stupid people in charge committing huge crimes. But if our government can't figure that out and still wants to perpetuate war, then we will have neanderthals running amok in a war that is being viewed by the entire world. We have National Guardsmen on their third tour of duty, burned out, never should have been there, and I am hoping there is not major disaster in this country...Because we have no National Guardsmen to help us.

So lets end the war, and how are we going to do that? We all know. Let's pluck up our courage, mates and get going!!!!

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» RE: Well duh Posted by: yellow
What do you do?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Sep 27, 2006 6:38 PM   
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What do you do when you hear that a man is held in a torture chamber and forced to listen to a tape recording of a woman being tortured and raped, while he is told that the woman is his wife?

Yup, that really happened and our tax dollars paid for it.

What do you do when you hear about teenage boys being raped in front of an audience of captive Iraqis by US soldiers who are operating under the guidance of Donald Rumsfeld, Stephen Cambone and William Boykin?

Yes, that did indeed happen, according to Seymour Hersch.

What do you do when you learn that all this is being done by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice for one reason - in order to maintain the ridiculous oil profits for themselves and their Saudi friends?

What to do when you learn that similar tactics are used daily in Israeli prisons, where Palestinians are held without any rights whatsover? I don't think the Israelis know what 'habeus corpus' means - and our tax dollars go to support this?

Here is one suggestion: you stop paying taxes. You stop putting you hard-earned dollars into the federal booty bag. You stop 'going along to get along'. You quit paying off your debts to the financial structures which promote the global oil empire. You walk right into the fabled 'halls of power' and tell them to go to hell. You tell them that you are not for sale, that you won't allow these things to be done in your name, and that you are going to dedicate every waking moment to ensuring that the people responsible spend a long time locked up in little cells, as per the much-admired 'rule of law' as expressed in the US Consitution. And don't yell, say it quietly and gently with a smile on your face- that'll really terrrify the bastards.

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» RE: What do you do? Posted by: shanaza
» RE: What do you do? Posted by: Aussie Kim
The fix is in
Posted by: Democritus on Sep 27, 2006 7:50 PM   
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How brave and stalwart the three Republican senators seemed to be--McCain, Warner, and Graham--standing up to Bush and demanding that the Geneva Conventions be left unchanged. But then they caved in. What Bush wanted, and what he apparently got, was an agreement that will let the CIA continue their heavy-handed treatment of detainees--regardless of their innocence or guilt. He also got what the CIA wanted, which was immunity for committing past torture. This story of the detainment and the brutal physical and psychological treatment of a British subject is a harrowing tale. Bush and his minions should themselves be in the dock. They are guilty of war crimes, and they should be punished for them.

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pixelated - 1936 - Mr. Deeds
Posted by: dancerkc on Sep 28, 2006 4:11 PM   
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When I was growing up the word "pixelated" meant sloshed or otherwise a bit wacky. If you remember the 1936 movie "Mr. Deeds Goes to Town" with Gary Cooper and Jean Arthur, Cooper's character, Longfellow Deeds is hit with the accusation of being "pixelated."

Mr. Deeds (Gary Cooper) is in court because his relatives want to get the fortune he inherited. He wants to donate it to charitable causes and the relatives want to stop him before he is able to donate it the money.

The court scene is comic when two spinsters (do we still use that term?) from his home town out west are called to the stand to testify that he is pixelated. Turns out they also think the prosecuting attorney is "pixelated" and a lot of others as well. The court breaks up and the case against Deeds (good, allegorical name) dies in laughter.

Back to Cuba. It seems hard to imagine that Major Idiot would never have heard of the word "pixelated" at all, in any context. That word has been around long before today's computers or digital images. He certainly earns the name Major Idiot. Funny name. Scary in real life.

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Speaking as a proud non-American...
Posted by: andyc on Sep 28, 2006 4:24 PM   
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Your country is a disgrace while you allow this sort of thing to happen. Stop it NOW, and prosecute every one of the b*stards who has been involved in it.

Until then, you have no right to expect any forgiveness from your victims.

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Pixelation?
Posted by: Aussie Kim on Oct 1, 2006 11:15 PM   
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We need to pixelate Bush, his cronies and anyone dumb enough to follow his orders.

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