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Young, Childless and Opting for Sterilization
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The procedure prevents the passage of the ovum into the uterus where it can be fertilized by the male's sperm, by closing the fallopian tubes. It's a surgical solution to birth control.
Day's older sister went through a lot trying to get pregnant and have children. Her sister had two miscarriages and is now in the process of adopting an infant. Day was by her side the whole time and it lead her to the conclusion that the trauma isn't worth it. "I don't need to go through that," she says and adds that she's just "not the mommy type anyway."
Before the surgery, Day briefly changed her mind. "I got really nervous for a few days after I told [the doctor] I wanted to have them cut, and I called to change my mind and tell him just clip them." Clipping the tubes instead would mean the procedure would be reversible. "I spoke to the nurse who told me I had to talk to the doctor when I went in to have my surgery, but I was really nervous and totally forgot when I got to the hospital."
She feels more settled about the surgery now. Tugging the waistband of her jersey pants down an inch to display the one-inch scar, she says she knows she made the right choice. "I don't even think about it now," she says simply.
Melanie Sawyer, a 27-year-old law student from Vancouver Island, also chose to have her "tubes tied" instead of using birth control pills or other forms of contraception. "I had a close call," she says. "I missed a couple of [birth control] pills, and by the time I remembered, it was three days after I'd had sex." Sawyer considers herself lucky. "It would have really messed up my plans if I had gotten pregnant again, and I want to really focus on doing other things now." Sawyer now has a stepson, but doesn't want to have children of her own. Word on the Street - Vancouver: September 24th
No regrets?
They're not alone. Dr. P.J. Mitchell, an obstetric surgeon in Nanaimo B.C., sees "maybe seven or eight women a week" who are considering tubal ligation: women both with and without children. "As many as 90 per cent of them go ahead with the surgery after receiving all the facts," he says. "Little seems to challenge their decisions."
And reliability isn't the only reason women choose sterilization. Christine Franic, a nursing student in Nanaimo, notes that financial considerations may also play a role. Once the surgery is done, "there is no expense, no monthly cost" to birth control. As well, risks associated with the operation are short-term only. "They are primarily to do with the anaesthetic, and within this age group the risk is very low."
Some studies have also claimed to show health benefits associated with tubal ligation. "Preventing or lessening the risks of some diseases, including polycystic ovary syndrome, endometriosis, and a reduction in ovarian and breast cancer risks, can often be a reason for people looking into this surgery," Franic says. But they are likely to be disappointed. "Unfortunately, it's bullshit, but many people will read reports about the correlation between having the surgery and lessening the chances of ovarian cancer and think it's a real option."
Dr. Mitchell agrees.
"There is no hard evidence to suggest that there is a strong correlation between the two ideas," he says. "However, most patients coming in with that idea in mind are already prepared to go ahead with [the surgery] anyway. It simply could have been an added benefit.
"If the patient suffers from a disease like [polycystic ovary syndrome] and is confident that she does not intend on having a child or additional children, the surgery may be the best possible option for them." It's a decision that shouldn't be taken lightly, however. "This surgery should be considered permanent," Dr. Mitchell says. "There are different options for the actual process, but once done you wouldn't want to undo it."
Home by dinnertime
According to the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada (SOGC), the most common options for the surgery can be accomplished through two processes: laparoscopy or minilaparotomy. According to Dr. Mitchell, laparoscopy is the most common and least invasive. "It's a simple procedure that is done through two tiny incisions: one at the belly button and one low on the abdomen," he says. "It doesn't take a long recovery period and the patient can usually expect to be at home that evening."
Minilaparotomy, or a minilap, is done with a single incision to the abdomen. While the procedure also has a minimal recovery time (about 24 hours), it also requires a larger and more noticeable incision resulting in a bigger scar. Both surgeries allow for options in the way the tubes are sealed. In Canada, three means are available: clips or clamps; rings, which pinch off the tubes in a loop; or coagulation (cauterizing), which is the procedure Melissa Day chose.
Popularity seesaw
While the method used is generally left up to the patients, Dr. Mitchell stresses that medical staff must consider other factors before the surgery date is set. "Most women who come in to consult with a surgeon are pretty prepared already," he says. "But as a medical professional, it's [the surgeon's] job to make sure [the patients] believe what they are saying as well. For example, usually a patient under 30 years is questioned about her reasoning a little bit more than, say, a 45-year-old who has raised three children already."
But the surgery is not withheld unless there are medical reasons to do so. "I had a 21-year-old patient come in who was married and had two children and wanted to go to school and become a professional," Dr. Mitchell remembers. "She had taken some time to consider and we had a consultation that included her husband. In the end they went away with the information and didn't come back for three months. "When they came in again there was more surety and I felt comfortable knowing they had considered their options."
As a birth control choice, the surgery has seesawed in popularity over past decades. Rising use in the early 1960s ended as oral contraceptives became more widely available. More recently, emergency contraception (the "morning-after" pill) has also supplanted its use. But while other methods dominate, tubal ligation is once again being discussed as an option.
"I heard about it from my mother," says Sawyer. "She suggested that it might be something to consider if I really didn't want to have children, which I don't."
Day says she learned about the option in high school. "It was one of those things that I heard about in a health class textbook and really ignored until I realized its impact," she says. "But you talk about these things too, you know. Women talk about this stuff."
She says it just means she has one less thing to worry about.
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Posted by: ellie on Sep 21, 2006 4:04 AM
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if you really come down to it, if you do not want kids, see if you can talk your willing doc into a partial hyrestemony (sp) leaving just your ovaries. no muss or fuss, no PMS, no worry about medical concerns that involve having a uterus. think being female and freedom!
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Posted by: myshele on Sep 21, 2006 4:20 AM
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One of the things I've found since moving to the UK is that IUDs are much more popular here -- little plastic and copper devices inserted through the cervix into the uterus that prevent pregnancy. Once they're implanted, they last for 5-10 years, and are completely removable. There are very few side effects, and they don't have any lasting effect on fertility. Seems like these are the ideal solution for young women who are in solid relationships and don't want to deal with the hassles of other forms of birth control, but are considering a more permanent form of sterilization.
It seems strange to get an irreversible surgery at 21 when the 'biological clock' hasn't even kicked in yet -- to me, all-or-nothing does not present much of a choice. By ignoring a long-term (but still temporary) form of birth control, a woman's option of changing her mind disappears. I'm all for limiting population, but it seems incredibly unfair to offer such a limited range of choices.
If the clinics referred to in the story offer IUDs, great! We should hear about this option a lot more than we do, rather than seeing a false dichotomy in what is really a wide spectrum of options. If the clinics did not offer IUDs, why not? Why the push for a surgery that can always come later?
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Posted by: kb9vrg on Sep 21, 2006 4:28 AM
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We've discussed not having children for years now.
The decision driving us to making a permanent decision like this was driven by health factors, a conscious decision not to want to be a parent, financial liabilities, and somewhat the political climate.
Our state legislature who has been trying for several years to get a conscience clause law passed to make it easier for activist pharmacists to deny contraceptives, so we figured now was the right time to do it.
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Posted by: colinmeister on Sep 21, 2006 4:35 AM
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Listening to Christian right wingnut Pat Robertson when I woke up the other night, he said "The Europeans are not producing enough children to keep their heritage alive, they are of no consequence."
While liberal career people and other professionals are not having children, fundamentalist Christian wingnuts are, so what does that say for the future?
There again, why should I really care - I'm the last of my line.
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Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on Sep 21, 2006 7:18 AM
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That was in Texas. Have things changed down there at all?
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Posted by: Kuber on Sep 21, 2006 7:30 AM
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This society continues to shoot itself in the foot with the mis-education of the citizens.
We surrender dignified self-knowledge and self-management for the indignities of animal/robotic rigidities.
To make matters worse we have visionless leaders who can offer no wise guidance.
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Posted by: jimidee on Sep 21, 2006 7:31 AM
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You don't lose your precious manhood there, Studly Dooright...Dee Dee Dee! After the surgery, your sex life gets BETTER, not worse, because of the loss of anxiety over getting the woman pregnant.
Besides, since when is it the woman's duty in a relationship to get sterilized? All the author and you folks have been talking about is about women, like it was just another household chore that they get stuck with because the man will not do it. I am surprised how women in this "crowd" have so easily prostrated themselves to this concept. Vasectomies are much easier, less painful and there is much less chance of medical complications.
I know because I got one when I was 27 years old...way back in 1977. It wasn't easy to get a surgeon to agree to do it to a young, childless man back then. He tried to convince me that I would change my mind when I got older. I argued that I had known I didn't want children since I was a little boy, and that my wife and I were proffessional people who knew what we wanted out of life. The surgeon reluctantly agreed to consider it on the condition that the wife and I consult with him, and that she be in total agreement. So, he set up a follow-up appointment the next week for us.
We came to the appointment and walked into his office and when he saw my wife was black (and I am white) he said without hesitation..."When do you want to do it?" I guess he really didn't want to see any more bi-racial kids running around. I didn't give him any grief about it because, let's face it...the man was going to have my balls in his hand with a very sharp knife.
So, men, suck it up and do it yourself. However, if you are a young white girl not in a permanent relationship, and are having trouble getting a surgeon to sterilize you...follow my lead and get a brothah go to the doctor with you. Things haven't changed that much since 1977.
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Posted by: fifthworld on Sep 21, 2006 8:43 AM
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Okay, start throwing the flames...
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Posted by: Bab5nutz on Sep 21, 2006 9:31 AM
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There is also a strong history of anxiety disorders and mental illness in my family. My three year old nephew is already showing signs of having an anxiety disorder and OCD. Having that myself, I would not wish that on anyone, let alone a kid.
For another, I probably can't. I have endometriosis, and it has probably left me sterile, and I cannot say that the idea upsets me terribly.
Finally, having children seems to bring out the worst in people. Time after time, I have seen parents do nothing but scream and carry on at their kids. They become angry, stressed, vicious, nasty. I don't want to be that kind of person, and I would not want to put a child through it, either.
So, for anyone who does not want to have children. It's your body, your life, your choice. For those who do want children - good luck, you're goona need it.
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Posted by: casey60622 on Sep 21, 2006 9:57 AM
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It was pretty funny to me, however, when I worked at a hospital that regularly performed vasectomy reversals. It really got me to thinking about how much our minds can change. Generally the vas reversals were for guys in their 40s. Here was a man who had decided, with certainty, that he was either not having children, or not having any more...and then he changed his mind.
All this leads me to is the notion that whatever someone decides, they should consider that they might change their mind in the future. Also, as a previous poster stated, the lack of information and support for IUDs in the US is really negligent. These are non-harmful devices that are as effective as a tubal. They can be inserted in a quick trip to the doctor or after a birth.
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Posted by: pianojo on Sep 21, 2006 10:17 AM
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I, for one, see NOTHING admirable about continuing this species. There is something VERY WRONG with us, something missing. All you have to do is look at what is happening today and you can conclude nothing else.
To me, human beings are another mistake of Mother Nature, an experiment gone terribly wrong - just like the dinosaurs - and, sooner or later, human beings will go the way of the dinosaurs. I think we deserve nothing less. And when we are gone, the planet (plants and animals) will, hopefully, begin to thrive as it should.
As for me, my contribution to the demise of humanity is NOT to have children.
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Posted by: helgerry on Sep 21, 2006 12:14 PM
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Oh! By the way, I'm not white and I do not certainly have a problem with being black... I'd just prefer the United States to remain majority Anglo-Saxon for reasons I don't want to go into here.
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Posted by: darkgrrrl on Sep 21, 2006 3:41 PM
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Almost all my friends and colleagues who have young children have extended family living nearby who provide extensive free child care, and/or one of the parents stays home or works part-time; I have no family to provide that support system for me.
I work about 50 hours a week with 10 days of vacation per year; my partner works more and is a contractor, so no paid time off (until recently we both worked 80+ hours/week). Also, my job requires some travel and evening/weekend work. I would have to pay thousands of dollars for day care so someone else could raise my child. When s/he was old enough for school, I would then most likely feel the need to pay more thousands of dollars for private school, because the public schools where I live are terrible. I could not afford those expenses.
The bottom line for me is that I don't want children. But even if I did - all things being equal, I still wouldn't have any.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Sep 22, 2006 9:36 AM
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That said, I don't think it's anyone's business but the woman's if she has children or not. We should be free to make contraceptive choices without any other person telling us what we can or cannot do.
My body, my business.
Say it loud and often.
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Posted by: Loegaire on Sep 22, 2006 1:38 PM
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My wife and I had decided not to have kids, and given the choice between me having a 30 minute, non-invasive and outpatient procedure vs. what all women go through to get a tubal, the choice was pretty easy for me to make. The only problem I had with the whole thing was just how cold that sack of frozen peas was...
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Posted by: hphung on Sep 22, 2006 4:17 PM
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Essure is minimally-invasive procedure for permanent birth control is beginning to gain momentum among doctors and patients alike. The Essure procedure minimizes the risks and pain of tubal ligation and uniquely uses a confirmatory test to assure permanent protection is in place. In fact, more than 1,400 new doctors performed the procedure last year.
I think your readers would value an article about what women need to know when considering permanent birth control. For your story, I can put you in touch with an ObGyn as well as a patient who has undergone the procedure.
Please visit essure.com for more info.
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Posted by: Ruby on Nov 26, 2006 8:39 AM
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Fast forward ten years to husband #2. I had reversal surgery and now have four sons. They are my life. One cannot imagine what it is like to have kids until you do. Period. I am so lucky that the judgement of my youth was able to be fixed. Labor sucked, the sleepless nights were not the big deal I feared and none of my kids were snot-nosed brats--a little whiny sometimes but nothing unbearable.
They are musically talented, athletic, bright charming people. To think I didn't want them once--what an idiot I was.
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