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The Disastrous Rule of a Mayberry Machiavelli
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No one predicted just how radical a president George W. Bush would be. Neither his opponents, nor the reporters covering him, nor his closest campaign aides suggested that he would be the most willfully radical president in American history.
In his 2000 campaign, Bush permitted himself few hints of radicalism. On the contrary he made ready promises of moderation, judiciously offering himself as a "compassionate conservative," an identity carefully crafted to contrast with the discredited Republican radicals of the House of Representatives. After capturing the Congress in 1994 and proclaiming a "revolution," they had twice shut down the government over the budget and staged an impeachment trial that resulted in the acquittal of President Clinton. Seeking to distance himself from the congressional Republicans, Bush declared that he was not hostile to government. He would, he said, "change the tone in Washington." He would be more reasonable than the House Republicans and more moral than Clinton. Governor Bush went out of his way to point to his record of bipartisan cooperation with Democrats in Texas, stressing that he would be "a uniter, not a divider."
Trying to remove the suspicion that falls on conservative Republicans, he pledged that he would protect the solvency of Social Security. On foreign policy, he said he would be "humble": "If we're an arrogant nation, they'll view us that way, but if we're a humble nation, they'll respect us." Here he was criticizing Clinton's peacemaking and nation-building efforts in the Balkans and suggesting he would be far more restrained. The sharpest criticism he made of Clinton's foreign policy was that he would be more mindful of the civil liberties of Arabs accused of terrorism: "Arab-Americans are racially profiled in what's called secret evidence. People are stopped, and we got to do something about that." This statement was not an off-the-cuff remark, but carefully crafted and presented in one of the debates with Vice President Al Gore. Bush's intent was to win an endorsement from the American Muslim Council, which was cued to back him after he delivered his debating point, and it was instrumental in his winning an overwhelming share of Muslims' votes, about 90,000 of which were in Florida.
So Bush deliberately offered himself as an alternative to the divisive congressional Republicans, his father's son (at last) in political temperament, but also experienced as an executive who had learned the art of compromise with the other party, and differing from the incumbent Democratic president only in personality and degree. Bush wanted the press to report and discuss that he would reform and discipline his party, which had gone too far to the right. He encouraged commentary that he represented a "Fourth Way," a variation on the theme of Clinton's "Third Way."
In his second term, Clinton had the highest sustained popularity of any president since World War II, prosperity was in its longest recorded cycle, and the nation's international prestige high. Bush's tack as moderate was adroit, shrewd and necessary. His political imperative was to create the public perception there were no major issues dividing the candidates and that the current halcyon days would continue as well under his aegis. Only through his positioning did Bush manage to close to within just short of a half-million votes of Gore and achieve an apparent tie in Florida, creating an Electoral College deadlock and forcing the election toward an extraordinary resolution.
Few political commentators at the time thought that the ruthless tactics used by the Bush camp in the Florida contest presaged his presidency. The battle there was seen as unique, a self-contained episode of high political drama that could and would not be replicated. Tactics such as setting loose a mob comprised mostly of Republican staff members from the House and Senate flown down from Washington to intimidate physically the Miami-Dade County Board of Supervisors from counting the votes there, and manipulating the Florida state government through the office of the governor, Jeb Bush, the candidate's brother, to forestall vote counting were justified as simply hardball politics.
The Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore, by a five-to-four margin, perversely sanctioned not counting thousands of votes (mostly African-American) as somehow upholding the equal protection clause of the 15th Amendment (enacted after the Civil War to guarantee the rights of newly enfranchised slaves, the ancestors of those disenfranchised by Bush v. Gore). In the majority opinion, Justice Antonin Scalia argued that counting votes would cast a shadow on the "legitimacy" of Bush's claim to the presidency. The Court concluded that the ruling was to have applicability only this one time. By its very nature, it was declared to be unprecedented. Never before had the Supreme Court decided who would be president, much less according to tortuous argument, and by a one vote margin that underlined and extended political polarization.
The constitutional system had ruptured, but it was widely believed by the political class in Washington, including most of the press corps, that Bush, who had benefited, would rush to repair the breach. The brutality enabling him to become president, while losing the popular majority, and following a decade of partisan polarization, must spur him to make good on his campaign rhetoric of moderation, seek common ground and enact centrist policies. Old family retainers, James Baker (the former Secretary of State who had been summoned to command the legal and political teams in Florida) and Brent Scowcroft (elder Bush's former national security adviser), were especially unprepared for what was to come, and they came to oppose Bush's radicalism, mounting a sub rosa opposition. In its brazen, cold-blooded and single-minded partisanship, the Florida contest turned out in retrospect to be an augury not an aberration. It was Bush's first opening, and having charged through it, grabbing the presidency, he continued widening the breach.
The precedents for a president who gained office without winning the popular vote were uniformly grim. John Quincy Adams, the first president elected without a plurality, never escaped the accusation of having made a "corrupt bargain" to secure the necessary Electoral College votes. After one term he was turned out of office with an overwhelming vote for his rival, Andrew Jackson. Rutherford B. Hayes and Benjamin Harrison, also having won the White House but not the popular vote, declined to run again. Like these three predecessors Bush lacked a mandate, but unlike them he proceeded as though he had won by a landslide.
The Republicans had control of both houses of the Congress and the presidency for the first time since Dwight Eisenhower was elected. But Eisenhower had gained the White House with a resounding majority. He spent his early years in office trying to isolate his right wing in the Congress, quietly if belatedly encouraging efforts to censure Senator Joseph McCarthy. Eisenhower greeted the Democratic recovery of the Congress in 1954 with relief and smoothly governed for the rest of his tenure in tandem with Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson. The outrageous behavior of the Republicans during the brief period in which they had held congressional power and unleashed McCarthy was a direct cause of their minority status for 40 subsequent years. But the Republicans who gained control of the Congress in 1994 had not learned from their past.
The Republican radicals in charge of the House of Representatives remained unabashed by their smashing failures of the 1990s. They were willing to sacrifice two speakers of the House to scandals of their own in order to pursue an unconstitutional coup d'état to remove President Clinton. (It was unconstitutional, strictly speaking, because they had rejected any standards whatsoever for impeachment in the House Judiciary Committee in contradistinction to the committee's exacting standards enacted in the impeachment proceedings of President Nixon.) Now these Republicans welcomed the Bush ascension as deus ex machina, rescuing them from their exhaustion, disrepute and dead end. They became Bush's indispensable partners.
Immediately upon assuming office, Bush launched upon a series of initiatives that began to undo the bipartisan traditions of internationalism, environmentalism, fiscal discipline, and scientific progress. His first nine months in office were a quick march to the right. The reasons were manifold, ranging from Cheney and Rumsfeld's extraordinary influence, Rove's strategies, the neoconservatives' inordinate sway, and Bush's Southern conservatism. These deeper patterns were initially obscured by the surprising rapidity of Bush's determined tack.
Bush withdrew from the diplomacy with North Korea to control its development and production of nuclear weapons. Secretary of State Colin Powell, after briefing the press that the diplomatic track would continue, was sent out again to repudiate himself and announce the administration's reversal of almost a decade of negotiation. Powell did not realize that this would be the first of many times his credibility would be abused in a ritual of humiliation. Swiftly, Bush rejected the Kyoto treaty to reduce greenhouse gases and global warming, and presented a "voluntary" plan that was supported by no other nation. He also withdrew the U.S. from its historic role as negotiator among Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs, a process to which his father had been particularly committed.
In short order, Bush also reversed his campaign promise to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from power plants and canceled the federal regulation reducing cancer causing arsenic levels in water. He joked at a dinner: "As you know, we're studying safe levels for arsenic in drinking water. To base our decision on sound science, the scientists told us we needed to test the water glasses of about 3,000 people. Thank you for participating." He appointed scores of former lobbyists and industry executives to oversee policies regulating the industries they previously represented.
As his top priority Bush pushed for passage of a large tax cut that would redistribute income to the wealthy, drain the surplus that the Clinton administration had accumulated, and reverse fiscal discipline embraced by both the Clinton and prior Bush administrations. The tax cut became Bush's chief instrument of social policy. By wiping out the surplus, budget pressure was exerted on domestic social programs. Under the Reagan administration, a tax cut had produced the largest deficit to that time, bigger than the combined deficits accumulated by all previous presidents. But Reagan had stumbled onto this method of crushing social programs through the inadvertent though predictable failure of his fantasy of supply-side economics in which slashing taxes would magically create increased federal revenues. Bush confronted alternatives in the recent Republican past, the Reagan example or his father's responsible counter-example of raising taxes to cut the deficit; once again, he rejected his father's path. But unlike Reagan, his decision to foster a deficit was completely deliberate and with full awareness of its consequences.
Domestic policy adviser John DiIulio, a political scientist from the University of Pennsylvania, who had accepted his position in the White House on the assumption that he would be working to give substance to the president's rhetoric of "compassionate conservatism," resigned in a state of shock. "There is no precedent in any modern White House for what is going on in this one: a complete lack of a policy apparatus," DiIulio told Esquire magazine. "What you've got is everything -- and I mean everything -- being run by the political arm. It's the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis ... Besides the tax cut ... the administration has not done much, either in absolute terms or in comparison to previous administrations at this stage, on domestic policy. There is a virtual absence as yet of any policy accomplishments that might, to a fair-minded non-partisan, count as the flesh on the bones of so-called compassionate conservatism."
After just four months into the Bush presidency, the Republicans lost control of the Senate. Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont, who had served for 26 years as a moderate Republican in the House and the Senate, left his party in response to Bush's radicalism. "In the past, without the presidency, the various wings of the Republican Party in Congress have had some freedom to argue and influence and ultimately to shape the party's agenda. The election of President Bush changed that dramatically," Jeffords said on May 24, 2001. Overnight, the majority in the upper chamber shifted to the Democrats.
Bush spent the entire month of August on vacation at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. His main public event was a speech declaring federal limits on scientific research involving stem cells that might lead to cures for many diseases. Bush's tortuous position was a sop to the religious right. On August 6, three days before his nationally televised address on stem cells, he was presented with a Presidential Daily Brief from the CIA entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside U.S." CIA director George Tenet later told the 9/11 Commission on Terrorist Attacks on the United States "the system was blinking red." The Commission reported: "The President told us the August 6 report was historical in nature ... We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States."
By September 10, Bush held the lowest job approval rating of any president to that early point in his tenure. He appeared to be falling into the pattern of presidents who arrived without a popular mandate and lasted only one term. The deadliest foreign attack on American soil transformed his foundering presidency.
The events of September 11 lent Bush the aura of legitimacy that Bush v. Gore had not granted. Catastrophe infused him with the charisma of a "war president," as he proclaimed himself. At once, his radicalism had an unobstructed path.
Bush's political rhetoric reached Manichaean and apocalyptic heights. He divided the world into "good" and "evil." "You're either with the terrorists or with us," he said. He stood at the ramparts of Fortress America, defending it from evildoers without and within. His fervent messianism guided what he called his "crusade" in the Muslim realm. "Bring them on!" he exclaimed about Iraqi insurgents. Asked if he ever sought advice from his father, Bush replied, "There's a higher Father I appeal to."
After September 11, the American people were virtually united in sentiment. Support for the Afghanistan war was almost unanimous. "The nation is united and there is a resolve and a spirit that is just so fantastic to feel," said Bush. But two weeks after he made this statement, in January 2002, his chief political aide, whom he called "The Architect," Karl Rove, spoke before a meeting of the Republican National Committee, laying out the strategy for exploiting fear of terror for partisan advantage. "We can go to the country on this issue because they trust the Republican Party to do a better job of protecting and strengthening America's military might and thereby protecting America," said Rove. His strategy was premised on the idea that Republicans win elections by maximizing the turnout of their conservative base; his method was to polarize the electorate as much as possible. Rove's tactic was to challenge the patriotism of Democrats by creating false issues of national security in which they could be demonized. September 11 gave his politics of polarization the urgency of national emergency.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 20, 2006 3:04 AM
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The Karl Rove spin machine will try to tell you that bin ladin will be at your dorr if the dems are able to take back power - don't fall for it! Dick Cheney (0h, when is that fatal heart attack coming?) will try to make you believe your not patriotic for not swallowing the GOP bullshit. Alberto Gonzalex will say that their crimes are legal (Where have you gone, George Orwell?) Donald Rumsfeld will try to tell you that success in Iraq is just around the corner. That is a bald-faced lie. The fact is this: The war in Iraq is lost. It was lost the day we invaded. The day will come when America shamefully retreats from that country in disgrace. Get used to that idea. WAR IS OVER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
Pull their passports. You know damned well that as soon as the trillion dollar shithammer comes a'crashin, most of them, including the First Fool, will try to flee the country.
I want veangence, baby!
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» Get ready
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Posted by: Moonray on Sep 20, 2006 4:12 AM
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Dwight Eisenhower and Barry Goldwater supported free-enterprise, but they were wise enough to know that society has needs that transcend the marketplace. The Bushies are the opposite: Their neocon notion is that business is all-important, and petty concerns about human suffering are secondary.l
Translated into policy, this results in 50 million Americans without health insurance; millions dying unnecessarily from inadequate health care; more millions chronically unemployed; an environment under siege from big-business polluters, and -- oh, yes, -- a foreign policy based on exporting not only weapons but the militaristic attitudes that encourage the promiscuous use of those weapons.
American voters are complicit in all this because they were stupid enough to elect G.W. Bush not once but twice (sort of). There is no excuse for that, and it bodes ill for our country. By embracing neocon Republicanism, America might well have sacrificed its future not only as a superpower but as a democracy.
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Posted by: profmarcus on Sep 20, 2006 4:55 AM
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And, yes, I DO take it personally
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Posted by: wawa on Sep 20, 2006 5:37 AM
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I have become a Magdelena crying out on WAWA,
For President Bush has taken my Love/Brother/Teacher and I cannot find Christ in Bush's actions and rhetoric.
Thomas Jefferson weeded out the miracle stories from the gospels and clarified the teachings of Christ in
THE PHILOSOPHY AND MORALS of JESUS of NAZARETH
1. Be just: justice comes from virtue which comes from the heart.
2. Treat people the way we want to be treated.
3. Always work for PEACEFUL resolutions, even to the point of returning violence with COMPASSION.
4. Consider valuable the things that have no material value.
5. Do not judge others.
6. Do not bear grudges.
7. Be modest and unpretentious.
8. Give out of true generosity, not because we expect to be repaid.
9. Being true to one's self is more important than being loyal to one's family...those who think they know the most are the most ignorant......
"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine
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» MEAN STREAK
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Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Sep 20, 2006 6:51 AM
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Maybe it's because the real topics--who did 9/11, election fraud in 2000 and 2004 and the Diebold connection, and impeachment--are off the table for career journalists in America.
What happened to Greg Palast is just a shot over the bow.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 20, 2006 7:19 AM
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It's all been downhill from that point.
Imagine if people had known that this cabal of NeoCons and careerist cowards were going to enact laws and allow the kind of nonsense that has brought us to this point. The Bill of Rights has effectively been shredded by this bunch and a huge portion of the Democratic caucus went along with it. A Federal Law Enforcement Officer can fill out a National Security Letter and throw you in the clink and essentially suspend your rights under our basic law and the majority of both parties of both houses of Congress are O.K. with that.
Makes me want to scream like Mike Malloy...
For all the whining we have heard from Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, they could have stopped this sh*t in it's tracks by sitting out and taking a stand or democracy. By denying the NeoCons a quorum, they couldn't pass anything and would have to come to the table in good faith.
Instead, they went along, afraid that someone might mistake them for people dedicated to the preservation of the foundations of American Democracy. They have let the few members who have stood up and called Bullsh*t, like Russ Feingold, twist in the wind. The silence has been deafening.
Shame on you.
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Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Sep 20, 2006 7:54 AM
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If someone had set out on purpose to smash the American Republic into little tiny fragments, and then piss on the pieces, the Bush Machine would have been exactly the tool to do it ...
We know the problems ... the war, the debt, the deficit, the trade deficit, healthcare, wages, taxes, global warming, America's status in the world -- all broken. Someone has to pick up the pieces.
My concern is that comes Nov 2008, all the sins of the Mayberry Macheievelli's will be heaped on the head of George, son of George, he'll be driven out into the desert (in a limosine) and some 'moderate Republican' or 'centrist Democrat' ... or heaven help us, a Unity Party candidate ... will run on a Clean Slate platform -- and all will be forgiven, forgotten, and started over again.
And as with the Clinton Years, it will only be a temporary slowing of the march toward corporate fascism. Imagine how happy we will all be when Guantanimo is closed, and the Marriage Protection amendment is taken off the table: by the time we notice that the Bush Tax Cuts remain in place, that the Cheney Energy Policy has been essentially unchanged: it will be time for another Conservative Republican to be Leader of the Free World.
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» The Regime will stay, with or without Bush
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» Then why bother with 'any of this?'
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» Very good question, seriously
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» Superbly stated
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» not to have 2 million descend on DC
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Posted by: truthteller on Sep 20, 2006 8:55 AM
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I truly believe that it is time to discuss the unthinkable - armed insurrection against this illegitimate, fascist government that stole two Presidential elections, lied to take us to war, violates basic human rights agreements at will, and enriches their crony supporters. Governments have been toppled over far less elsewhere.
Do we have to wait until our friends and loved ones "disappear" in the middle of the night to be "rendered" to torture friendly allies or a domestic "Gitmo" for what they/we think and speak about? Bush basically said last week that dissent is not allowed. We should take him at his word, this was more than a Freudian slip.
If there were a viable leftist guerilla movement in this Country I would gladly join it, and be willing to give my life for about the only thing I would consider doing that for - to save basic democracy, and our republic. I certainly would not give it to fight for this group of totalitarians and corporate fascists. I realize that this can be construed as sedition, but I believe that to be true only against a legitimate government, which this is clearly not. It is time for those on the left to stake our lives on a real fight for freedom. It may not come down to that, but we should be willing to contemplate it.
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» Well, ain't no law against 'contemplating' ...
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» The real cut and runners
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» people can do what they want but
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» A revolution is Not thinkable it happens every 4 years.
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» I can vote their asses out.
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» RE: A revolution is Not thinkable it happens every 4 years.
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» The reality of "The Voters"
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 20, 2006 9:07 AM
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It's easy to look tough when you don't actually have to be tough; it's easy to say, "I'm the Decider," when you don't actually decide anything. Bush is the Blanche DuBois of politics: all of his life he has depended upon the kindness of strangers – and his presidency is no exception.
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Posted by: shangrilalad on Sep 20, 2006 9:17 AM
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Consider for a moment what that means in terms of their power to control and manipulate all aspects of government. They own at least eighty percent of the Military Industrial Complex, our largest industry, making them also our largest employer. Which in turn generates a powerful and loyal political base, because nobody votes themselves out of a well paid job.
Plutocrats have concentrated their investments in specific industries like the Military Industrial Complex because they are guaranteed humongous profits. They have also invested heavily in media corporations, banks, insurance companies, medical, drug and health care industries, power companies, telephone companies, and of course gas and oil corporations.
Our system of government is based on legalized bribery. Plutocrats have the gold and use it to bribe politicians to legislate in their favor exclusively. In a comically perverse way though, the bribes are really just loans, because politicians use those bribes/loans to buy media ads to get reelected so they can collect more bribes/loans. The money goes round and round, but always ends up in the plutocrats pockets.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 20, 2006 10:08 AM
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MOTIVE:
The 9/11 attack saved Bush's presidency. It also allowed implimentation of the neocons' "Project for a New American Century." This would have not occurred without 9/11, as stated within the Project's support documents ("...a new Pearl Harbor...".)
MEANS:
Access to "under the radar" assets: The Bush family had close ties with both the Saudi royal family and, by association, the Bin Laden family (whom Bush whisked out of the country in the middle of a no-fly order after 9/11). There was also a history of ties between the Bush family, the CIA and the rest of the clandestine community (Daddy Bush headed the CIA at one time, for God's sake). We're supposed to believe that the finest spy organization in the world screwed up the intel? Oh, no, it was used all right. . .
OPPORTUNITY:
The August brief, warning of imminent attack, as well as many other warnings throughout that summer, were ignored (Bush might have been that stupid, but others in his administration were not.) On 9/11, multiple training exercises compromising NORAD were scheduled that – by amazing coincidence – exactly matched the actual attack. (Note here that when warned that the country was under attack, the Secret Service did not whisk the president out of that classroom and to safety, as is policy under ANY condition of possible threat to the president. Why not?)
Motive, means, opportunity. All that is needed to initiate a criminal investigation under any circumstances, anywhere within the justice system.
Except here.
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Posted by: JCR on Sep 20, 2006 10:43 AM
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Here's something else you probably already knew - the "courageous" American people are going to do fuck all when confronted with the facts. They will order up another slice of E! celebrity gossip pie and wash it down with a trip to the nearest mall. When that doesn't suffice in keeping them from a date with reality, they can always turn on Faux news to the tune that "ours is a noble fight against Islamofascists", or even better, the economy is trucking right along with unemployment hovering at around .001%. Just never you mind that most of the "job strength" is based on ultra low paying jobs and that the real value of your home and millions like it have not declined so much since the Depression. Yes life really is good in America when you're an ignorant fool who can't see past the jet skis in your garage and your negative savings rate . . .
Here's a thought - try and bring us together in something other than cursing the wiles of the Bush/Cheney gang. How about making an effort to organize people and create a message board where folks can at least make an effort to meet in person and discuss the next course of action. Sorry, my bad - just what was I thinking. That would actually mean giving a shit about our future - something Americans have made patently clear they won't have any part of.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Sep 20, 2006 2:09 PM
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I live in rural Nebraska, and people around here look at Bush and the Republicans in control as some sort of Second Coming of Christ. It's incredible but true. But what I have really noticed is that, despite all the religious mouthing, that people really DON'T care about their brother anymore. That the economically disadvantaged have only themselves to blame, etc.
The U.S has become a society where economic Darwinism has become the guiding moral compass. This is being cynically combined with a Fundamentalist religious belief that allows the wealthy to justify their ill-gotten gains, while telling all the rest of us to take comfort in the fact that we will "get our reward in heaven" (if Jesus doesn't come back first).
Look at the prevailing philosophy of the movers and shakers in corporate society, and the new generation of young managers on the up and up. Outsourcing of jobs, accounting funnybusiness, ruthless cost cutting, pollution--to which they answer: "hey if it makes money, you don't make apologies".
Most tv shows and movies are not even worth watching anymore. They have become like some sort of bizarre psycho-propaganda, pushing violence and contempt for the rest of the world, while preaching a theme of mindless greed and consumerism.
It's American society that is sick, body and soul. Bush is only the pox that has come to the surface.
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Posted by: constitution516 on Sep 20, 2006 2:31 PM
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THIS IS THE SAME CONSTITUTION THE CRIMINAL SWORE TO UPHOLD DURING HIS OATH OF OFFICE. WHEN WILL THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS BEGIN? WHEN WILL OUR COUNTRY WAKE UP! OATH OF OFFICE MEANS YOU WILL FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW NOT RECREATE IT MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG. YOU WILL UPHOLD THE LAW. YOU WILL NOT TRY AND SUBVERT IT NOR SUBVERT TREATIES AND THE CONSTITUTION. THIS MAN IS NOT RADICAL HE IS A OUT AND OUT CRIMINAL. WAKE UP AMERICA!
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
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He was appointed by the Court after "Flori-duh!" (sorry, Floridians; I'm not mad at you all-just your deadpan governor, Katherine Harris and the machines) couldn't count its ballots properly. The Black Coats awarded the seat of power of W. Since then, we've all been thoroughly screwed, here and abroad.
Can't we find a way to remove this de facto carpenter from office? Aren't we all tired of being screwed? 2008 can't come any faster.
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Posted by: Melvin on Sep 20, 2006 4:59 PM
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Early today Donald Rumsfeld rushed to the Oval Office to inform GW that three Brazillian soldiers had been killed in Bagdad.
GW was mortified; he went pale & almost threw up. After a while he regained his composure & asked Rumsfeld...
Just how many is a ...brazillian?
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Posted by: longlivecheney on Sep 20, 2006 6:41 PM
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1. He pulled us out of certain recession after terrorists killed 3,000 innocent Americans on our own soil. Since that fateful day, the economy has actually improved dramatically. We've created millions of jobs and surprised even ourselves with our tremendous growth in the past 5 years. Yay Bush.
2. His aggressive retaliation against all those who sponsor, condone, or participate in terrorism has allowed this country to stay 9/11-free since 9/11. Terrorists are now going after European targets (regrettably) because they know that if they mess with America again, bad things are sure to come. Yay Bush.
3. He is one of the few brave politicians that is willing to fight an extremely unpopular war to defend the United States and the rest of the free world. He doesn't have to - he could pull our troops out today in hopes that tomorrow's history books will be a little kinder to him. But he won't, and he shouldn't. I'm a history major and I know exactly what will be written about him in the future. I'm surrounded by tomorrow's authors everyday, and his place in history (as they see it) will not be pleasant. But he doesn't care. And he shouldn't. Yay Bush.
Again, I know everyone agrees with this and I'm preaching to the choir. I just wanted to get that off my chest. Thanks, guys.
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But does anyone care about what kind of threat we're facing? Ahmadinejad just prayed for the arrival of the 12th Imam when his turn came to speak to the UN. He wants the end of mankind to come within the next two years, and he admits it!!! This isn't fear mongering. Its reality. Whether or not you agree with Bush, I don't care. But will anyone - anyone - on this website support the president as we face this threat?
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Posted by: keefus55 on Sep 20, 2006 8:58 PM
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But, on the other hand, Mr. Bush's clear agenda for world domination is starting to collapse under its own arrogance and ignorance. Largely as a result of their horrific debacle in Iraq, my guess is that he and his PNAC handlers now well understand that while military CONQUEST is relatively easy, CONTROLLING what you have conquered is always infinitely more difficult (if not impossible) to do.
Or, to put it another way, no matter how much oppression is brought to bear on a people or a nation, such oppression simply can't completely control people's hearts and minds indefinitely. Sooner or later, oppressed people always seem to figure out innovative and effective ways to fight back against tyranny. Or, to put it more simply, one group or nation's "terrorism" is also another group or nation's "patriotism". What we call it simply depends on who we believe is doing the oppressing.
Fortunately, by speaking out against Mr. Bush's despotic plans to rule the world with an iron fist, the majority of US voters have now put him, his handlers, and our totally corrupt U$ Congress on notice that they no longer believe (nor will they support with their votes or taxes) any more of his "stay the course" and "wars of liberation" dogma!
And, despite our President's recent assertion that the Constitution of the United States is just a "goddamned piece of paper", thankfully, that Constitution remains very much in force. We are still a nation of laws. And "we the people" still decide with their votes who they wish to govern them, and by extension, what our policies will be toward our neighbors in the world.
Mr. Bush's increasingly tyrannical assertions about our Constitution as well as his totally irrational accusations against true patriots like General Colin Powell is simply more evidence of an ever-more-desperate, maniacal attempt to salvage a deeply flawed foreign policy…a policy that, up to now, has had nothing less than total world domination (by military force if necessary) as its centerpiece.
Thankfully, due to Mr. Bush's own arrogance and ignorance of history, his once grand foreign policy now lies largely in ruins. His fear and war mongering are increasingly falling on deaf ears. And more and more of us who comprise the true heart of America are also now beginning to realize (and publicly state) just how "transparent" our "Emperor's new clothes" really are!
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Sep 20, 2006 9:13 PM
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There's no way I could have known he'd go this far out there, but I did actually write quite a lengthy essay during his first Presidential campaign about exactly what kind of an idiotic halfwit corporate puppet of a person he was, and that voters should elect their pet iguanas over Bush. I believe I even threw something in there about how he'd have to pray for a war in order to have any kind of credibility as a leader. If only I had national exposure this may have been avoided.
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Posted by: LeftWright on Sep 20, 2006 11:02 PM
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Witness the obvious election frauds of 2000 and 2004 that clearly show "our democracy" to be a sham marketed as a world icon.
Witness the final throes of an unsustainable, ecologically disastrous, debt-driven, overlapping multi-bubble economy which is one oil or currency shock away from collapse.
Witness the absolute moral depravity of a subset of an elite class that murders 3,000 of its own citizens to make one last bold attempt to stave off its own inevitable decline.
Witness the complete cooptation of the MSM and its failure to see or report on any of this.
The time for denial is over.
The real strength of America is its hardworking, creative, idealistic and diverse people. When arroused these people can and will accomplish great things.
Prepare for the Second American Revolution, it's coming sooner than you think.
Take a walk, talk to your neighbors. Plant a vegetable garden, march for peace. Remember that human beings are inherently irrational and imperfect, be forgiving.
The truth shall set you free. Love is the only way forward.
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Posted by: AtmeratisX on Sep 21, 2006 10:10 PM
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Beginning with the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980's, the Gingrich "Contract" and lately the Bush "imperial presidency," a complacent American public have let a cabal of fanatic ideologs, there blind followers, their political machine and their talk radio propagandists virtually take control of the greatest democracy in the history of the world.
Every time I see one of these people (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, or the like) on TV, I pray to God (or whoever) that this country will survive another 2 yrs 4 mos. I pray that in Washington or somewhere there are sane, intelligent people who will have the fortitude to put a stop to or at least put some curbs on this hell-bent ideological insanity. I hope and pray for intelligent and sane leadership in all three branches of our nation's goverment. It looks to me like those in Congress and the Judiciary (remember checks and balances??) who are not blind followers are scared to death to say or do anything.
I don't post much here, but I read. All the name calling, the one-liners, the bitch, pissing, and moaning isn't going to make a damned bit of difference if sane, intelligent, Americans don't rise and stand against this insanity and return America to government "of, for, and by the People."
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Posted by: phospheresence on Sep 21, 2006 10:18 PM
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I'm Australian, btw. And where were the protests in support of the people of the Gulf states and New Orleans, when all tiers of government just left tens of thousands of the most vulnerable, to die, or survive, pretty much by their own efforts?
What don't the people who say they oppose Bush, do something to protest about him and his crazed policies. If the US attacks Iran, are you finally going to speak up?
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Posted by: Burtonger on Sep 21, 2006 11:33 PM
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BUT congress is corrupt and doesn't respresent the people anymore.
ONLY HOPE is military refusing treasonous/unconstitutional orders and arresting the criminals in charge of EVERYTHING.
WOW FINALLY A COUP AT HOME.almost
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Posted by: logansafi on Sep 22, 2006 12:24 PM
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The Democrats paved and still pave the way for the Republican onslaught, and Sidney Blumenthal is an integral part of this TweedleDumb con to blame TweedleDee for all that's evil in our US corporate dictatorship. It's just not true, because the Democrats are half the problem, and not any of the solution.
Don't want corporations to run roughshod over American civic life? Want to ALTER America for the better? Then don't buy the sweet syrupy lies of one of the corporate parties' main con men, Sidney Blumenthal. He and his Democratic Party are no panacea for anything.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 20, 2006 3:04 AM
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The Karl Rove spin machine will try to tell you that bin ladin will be at your dorr if the dems are able to take back power - don't fall for it! Dick Cheney (0h, when is that fatal heart attack coming?) will try to make you believe your not patriotic for not swallowing the GOP bullshit. Alberto Gonzalex will say that their crimes are legal (Where have you gone, George Orwell?) Donald Rumsfeld will try to tell you that success in Iraq is just around the corner. That is a bald-faced lie. The fact is this: The war in Iraq is lost. It was lost the day we invaded. The day will come when America shamefully retreats from that country in disgrace. Get used to that idea. WAR IS OVER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
Pull their passports. You know damned well that as soon as the trillion dollar shithammer comes a'crashin, most of them, including the First Fool, will try to flee the country.
I want veangence, baby!
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» Rhymes with what?
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» Get ready
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Posted by: Moonray on Sep 20, 2006 4:12 AM
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Dwight Eisenhower and Barry Goldwater supported free-enterprise, but they were wise enough to know that society has needs that transcend the marketplace. The Bushies are the opposite: Their neocon notion is that business is all-important, and petty concerns about human suffering are secondary.l
Translated into policy, this results in 50 million Americans without health insurance; millions dying unnecessarily from inadequate health care; more millions chronically unemployed; an environment under siege from big-business polluters, and -- oh, yes, -- a foreign policy based on exporting not only weapons but the militaristic attitudes that encourage the promiscuous use of those weapons.
American voters are complicit in all this because they were stupid enough to elect G.W. Bush not once but twice (sort of). There is no excuse for that, and it bodes ill for our country. By embracing neocon Republicanism, America might well have sacrificed its future not only as a superpower but as a democracy.
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» Voter were not the ones complicit in giving us a SPOTUS
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» We used to call it laissez-faire capitalism
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Posted by: profmarcus on Sep 20, 2006 4:55 AM
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And, yes, I DO take it personally
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Posted by: citizenjoe on Sep 20, 2006 5:02 AM
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Posted by: wawa on Sep 20, 2006 5:37 AM
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I have become a Magdelena crying out on WAWA,
For President Bush has taken my Love/Brother/Teacher and I cannot find Christ in Bush's actions and rhetoric.
Thomas Jefferson weeded out the miracle stories from the gospels and clarified the teachings of Christ in
THE PHILOSOPHY AND MORALS of JESUS of NAZARETH
1. Be just: justice comes from virtue which comes from the heart.
2. Treat people the way we want to be treated.
3. Always work for PEACEFUL resolutions, even to the point of returning violence with COMPASSION.
4. Consider valuable the things that have no material value.
5. Do not judge others.
6. Do not bear grudges.
7. Be modest and unpretentious.
8. Give out of true generosity, not because we expect to be repaid.
9. Being true to one's self is more important than being loyal to one's family...those who think they know the most are the most ignorant......
"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine
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» MEAN STREAK
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Posted by: mrcentrist on Sep 20, 2006 6:51 AM
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Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Sep 20, 2006 6:51 AM
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Maybe it's because the real topics--who did 9/11, election fraud in 2000 and 2004 and the Diebold connection, and impeachment--are off the table for career journalists in America.
What happened to Greg Palast is just a shot over the bow.
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Posted by: redstarwraith on Sep 20, 2006 6:58 AM
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Posted by: myrajean on Sep 20, 2006 7:15 AM
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 20, 2006 7:19 AM
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It's all been downhill from that point.
Imagine if people had known that this cabal of NeoCons and careerist cowards were going to enact laws and allow the kind of nonsense that has brought us to this point. The Bill of Rights has effectively been shredded by this bunch and a huge portion of the Democratic caucus went along with it. A Federal Law Enforcement Officer can fill out a National Security Letter and throw you in the clink and essentially suspend your rights under our basic law and the majority of both parties of both houses of Congress are O.K. with that.
Makes me want to scream like Mike Malloy...
For all the whining we have heard from Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, they could have stopped this sh*t in it's tracks by sitting out and taking a stand or democracy. By denying the NeoCons a quorum, they couldn't pass anything and would have to come to the table in good faith.
Instead, they went along, afraid that someone might mistake them for people dedicated to the preservation of the foundations of American Democracy. They have let the few members who have stood up and called Bullsh*t, like Russ Feingold, twist in the wind. The silence has been deafening.
Shame on you.
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Posted by: hoset on Sep 20, 2006 7:53 AM
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Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Sep 20, 2006 7:54 AM
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If someone had set out on purpose to smash the American Republic into little tiny fragments, and then piss on the pieces, the Bush Machine would have been exactly the tool to do it ...
We know the problems ... the war, the debt, the deficit, the trade deficit, healthcare, wages, taxes, global warming, America's status in the world -- all broken. Someone has to pick up the pieces.
My concern is that comes Nov 2008, all the sins of the Mayberry Macheievelli's will be heaped on the head of George, son of George, he'll be driven out into the desert (in a limosine) and some 'moderate Republican' or 'centrist Democrat' ... or heaven help us, a Unity Party candidate ... will run on a Clean Slate platform -- and all will be forgiven, forgotten, and started over again.
And as with the Clinton Years, it will only be a temporary slowing of the march toward corporate fascism. Imagine how happy we will all be when Guantanimo is closed, and the Marriage Protection amendment is taken off the table: by the time we notice that the Bush Tax Cuts remain in place, that the Cheney Energy Policy has been essentially unchanged: it will be time for another Conservative Republican to be Leader of the Free World.
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» Then why bother with 'any of this?'
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» Very good question, seriously
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Posted by: adampec on Sep 20, 2006 8:02 AM
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» Superbly stated
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» not to have 2 million descend on DC
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» Righto
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Posted by: truthteller on Sep 20, 2006 8:55 AM
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I truly believe that it is time to discuss the unthinkable - armed insurrection against this illegitimate, fascist government that stole two Presidential elections, lied to take us to war, violates basic human rights agreements at will, and enriches their crony supporters. Governments have been toppled over far less elsewhere.
Do we have to wait until our friends and loved ones "disappear" in the middle of the night to be "rendered" to torture friendly allies or a domestic "Gitmo" for what they/we think and speak about? Bush basically said last week that dissent is not allowed. We should take him at his word, this was more than a Freudian slip.
If there were a viable leftist guerilla movement in this Country I would gladly join it, and be willing to give my life for about the only thing I would consider doing that for - to save basic democracy, and our republic. I certainly would not give it to fight for this group of totalitarians and corporate fascists. I realize that this can be construed as sedition, but I believe that to be true only against a legitimate government, which this is clearly not. It is time for those on the left to stake our lives on a real fight for freedom. It may not come down to that, but we should be willing to contemplate it.
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» Well, ain't no law against 'contemplating' ...
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» The real cut and runners
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» people can do what they want but
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» A revolution is Not thinkable it happens every 4 years.
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» I can vote their asses out.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 20, 2006 9:07 AM
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It's easy to look tough when you don't actually have to be tough; it's easy to say, "I'm the Decider," when you don't actually decide anything. Bush is the Blanche DuBois of politics: all of his life he has depended upon the kindness of strangers – and his presidency is no exception.
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Posted by: shangrilalad on Sep 20, 2006 9:17 AM
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Consider for a moment what that means in terms of their power to control and manipulate all aspects of government. They own at least eighty percent of the Military Industrial Complex, our largest industry, making them also our largest employer. Which in turn generates a powerful and loyal political base, because nobody votes themselves out of a well paid job.
Plutocrats have concentrated their investments in specific industries like the Military Industrial Complex because they are guaranteed humongous profits. They have also invested heavily in media corporations, banks, insurance companies, medical, drug and health care industries, power companies, telephone companies, and of course gas and oil corporations.
Our system of government is based on legalized bribery. Plutocrats have the gold and use it to bribe politicians to legislate in their favor exclusively. In a comically perverse way though, the bribes are really just loans, because politicians use those bribes/loans to buy media ads to get reelected so they can collect more bribes/loans. The money goes round and round, but always ends up in the plutocrats pockets.
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Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon on Sep 20, 2006 10:01 AM
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 20, 2006 10:08 AM
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MOTIVE:
The 9/11 attack saved Bush's presidency. It also allowed implimentation of the neocons' "Project for a New American Century." This would have not occurred without 9/11, as stated within the Project's support documents ("...a new Pearl Harbor...".)
MEANS:
Access to "under the radar" assets: The Bush family had close ties with both the Saudi royal family and, by association, the Bin Laden family (whom Bush whisked out of the country in the middle of a no-fly order after 9/11). There was also a history of ties between the Bush family, the CIA and the rest of the clandestine community (Daddy Bush headed the CIA at one time, for God's sake). We're supposed to believe that the finest spy organization in the world screwed up the intel? Oh, no, it was used all right. . .
OPPORTUNITY:
The August brief, warning of imminent attack, as well as many other warnings throughout that summer, were ignored (Bush might have been that stupid, but others in his administration were not.) On 9/11, multiple training exercises compromising NORAD were scheduled that – by amazing coincidence – exactly matched the actual attack. (Note here that when warned that the country was under attack, the Secret Service did not whisk the president out of that classroom and to safety, as is policy under ANY condition of possible threat to the president. Why not?)
Motive, means, opportunity. All that is needed to initiate a criminal investigation under any circumstances, anywhere within the justice system.
Except here.
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Posted by: JCR on Sep 20, 2006 10:43 AM
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Here's something else you probably already knew - the "courageous" American people are going to do fuck all when confronted with the facts. They will order up another slice of E! celebrity gossip pie and wash it down with a trip to the nearest mall. When that doesn't suffice in keeping them from a date with reality, they can always turn on Faux news to the tune that "ours is a noble fight against Islamofascists", or even better, the economy is trucking right along with unemployment hovering at around .001%. Just never you mind that most of the "job strength" is based on ultra low paying jobs and that the real value of your home and millions like it have not declined so much since the Depression. Yes life really is good in America when you're an ignorant fool who can't see past the jet skis in your garage and your negative savings rate . . .
Here's a thought - try and bring us together in something other than cursing the wiles of the Bush/Cheney gang. How about making an effort to organize people and create a message board where folks can at least make an effort to meet in person and discuss the next course of action. Sorry, my bad - just what was I thinking. That would actually mean giving a shit about our future - something Americans have made patently clear they won't have any part of.
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» Oh ... you mean ALTERNET should do that ! Not in a market driven blogosphere
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» RE: Oh ... you mean ALTERNET should do that ! Not in a market driven blogosphere
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» I like your idea, JCR
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» You're the Man
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» RE: Another masterful display of stating the obvious . . . bravo!!
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» RE: Another masterful display of stating the obvious . . . bravo!!
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Posted by: michaeltwatson on Sep 20, 2006 11:58 AM
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Sep 20, 2006 2:09 PM
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I live in rural Nebraska, and people around here look at Bush and the Republicans in control as some sort of Second Coming of Christ. It's incredible but true. But what I have really noticed is that, despite all the religious mouthing, that people really DON'T care about their brother anymore. That the economically disadvantaged have only themselves to blame, etc.
The U.S has become a society where economic Darwinism has become the guiding moral compass. This is being cynically combined with a Fundamentalist religious belief that allows the wealthy to justify their ill-gotten gains, while telling all the rest of us to take comfort in the fact that we will "get our reward in heaven" (if Jesus doesn't come back first).
Look at the prevailing philosophy of the movers and shakers in corporate society, and the new generation of young managers on the up and up. Outsourcing of jobs, accounting funnybusiness, ruthless cost cutting, pollution--to which they answer: "hey if it makes money, you don't make apologies".
Most tv shows and movies are not even worth watching anymore. They have become like some sort of bizarre psycho-propaganda, pushing violence and contempt for the rest of the world, while preaching a theme of mindless greed and consumerism.
It's American society that is sick, body and soul. Bush is only the pox that has come to the surface.
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Posted by: constitution516 on Sep 20, 2006 2:31 PM
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THIS IS THE SAME CONSTITUTION THE CRIMINAL SWORE TO UPHOLD DURING HIS OATH OF OFFICE. WHEN WILL THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS BEGIN? WHEN WILL OUR COUNTRY WAKE UP! OATH OF OFFICE MEANS YOU WILL FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW NOT RECREATE IT MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG. YOU WILL UPHOLD THE LAW. YOU WILL NOT TRY AND SUBVERT IT NOR SUBVERT TREATIES AND THE CONSTITUTION. THIS MAN IS NOT RADICAL HE IS A OUT AND OUT CRIMINAL. WAKE UP AMERICA!
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
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» RE: THIS MAN NEEDS TO BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES
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» This Cheney needs to be hog-tied or frog-marched, whichever comes first
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» LLC and the perennial hypocrisy
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» PLEASE, cut the CAPS!
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» Ditto
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Posted by: dougo on Sep 20, 2006 3:14 PM
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Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Sep 20, 2006 3:43 PM
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He was appointed by the Court after "Flori-duh!" (sorry, Floridians; I'm not mad at you all-just your deadpan governor, Katherine Harris and the machines) couldn't count its ballots properly. The Black Coats awarded the seat of power of W. Since then, we've all been thoroughly screwed, here and abroad.
Can't we find a way to remove this de facto carpenter from office? Aren't we all tired of being screwed? 2008 can't come any faster.
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Posted by: Melvin on Sep 20, 2006 4:59 PM
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Early today Donald Rumsfeld rushed to the Oval Office to inform GW that three Brazillian soldiers had been killed in Bagdad.
GW was mortified; he went pale & almost threw up. After a while he regained his composure & asked Rumsfeld...
Just how many is a ...brazillian?
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Posted by: longlivecheney on Sep 20, 2006 6:41 PM
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1. He pulled us out of certain recession after terrorists killed 3,000 innocent Americans on our own soil. Since that fateful day, the economy has actually improved dramatically. We've created millions of jobs and surprised even ourselves with our tremendous growth in the past 5 years. Yay Bush.
2. His aggressive retaliation against all those who sponsor, condone, or participate in terrorism has allowed this country to stay 9/11-free since 9/11. Terrorists are now going after European targets (regrettably) because they know that if they mess with America again, bad things are sure to come. Yay Bush.
3. He is one of the few brave politicians that is willing to fight an extremely unpopular war to defend the United States and the rest of the free world. He doesn't have to - he could pull our troops out today in hopes that tomorrow's history books will be a little kinder to him. But he won't, and he shouldn't. I'm a history major and I know exactly what will be written about him in the future. I'm surrounded by tomorrow's authors everyday, and his place in history (as they see it) will not be pleasant. But he doesn't care. And he shouldn't. Yay Bush.
Again, I know everyone agrees with this and I'm preaching to the choir. I just wanted to get that off my chest. Thanks, guys.
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» I'm a history major
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» RE: Not the greatest, but pretty darn good
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» Big Government Corporatecrats: Comrade George
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Posted by: longlivecheney on Sep 20, 2006 8:31 PM
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But does anyone care about what kind of threat we're facing? Ahmadinejad just prayed for the arrival of the 12th Imam when his turn came to speak to the UN. He wants the end of mankind to come within the next two years, and he admits it!!! This isn't fear mongering. Its reality. Whether or not you agree with Bush, I don't care. But will anyone - anyone - on this website support the president as we face this threat?
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» He wants the end of mankind to come within the next two years
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» you'd be setting up a pretty ugly precedent.
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» RE: you'd be setting up a pretty ugly precedent.
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» But the 13th Imman, now there's a headache!
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» Imam
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» Highly suspect
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» Distortions regardless
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» Ahhhh, there's the rub!
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Posted by: keefus55 on Sep 20, 2006 8:58 PM
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But, on the other hand, Mr. Bush's clear agenda for world domination is starting to collapse under its own arrogance and ignorance. Largely as a result of their horrific debacle in Iraq, my guess is that he and his PNAC handlers now well understand that while military CONQUEST is relatively easy, CONTROLLING what you have conquered is always infinitely more difficult (if not impossible) to do.
Or, to put it another way, no matter how much oppression is brought to bear on a people or a nation, such oppression simply can't completely control people's hearts and minds indefinitely. Sooner or later, oppressed people always seem to figure out innovative and effective ways to fight back against tyranny. Or, to put it more simply, one group or nation's "terrorism" is also another group or nation's "patriotism". What we call it simply depends on who we believe is doing the oppressing.
Fortunately, by speaking out against Mr. Bush's despotic plans to rule the world with an iron fist, the majority of US voters have now put him, his handlers, and our totally corrupt U$ Congress on notice that they no longer believe (nor will they support with their votes or taxes) any more of his "stay the course" and "wars of liberation" dogma!
And, despite our President's recent assertion that the Constitution of the United States is just a "goddamned piece of paper", thankfully, that Constitution remains very much in force. We are still a nation of laws. And "we the people" still decide with their votes who they wish to govern them, and by extension, what our policies will be toward our neighbors in the world.
Mr. Bush's increasingly tyrannical assertions about our Constitution as well as his totally irrational accusations against true patriots like General Colin Powell is simply more evidence of an ever-more-desperate, maniacal attempt to salvage a deeply flawed foreign policy…a policy that, up to now, has had nothing less than total world domination (by military force if necessary) as its centerpiece.
Thankfully, due to Mr. Bush's own arrogance and ignorance of history, his once grand foreign policy now lies largely in ruins. His fear and war mongering are increasingly falling on deaf ears. And more and more of us who comprise the true heart of America are also now beginning to realize (and publicly state) just how "transparent" our "Emperor's new clothes" really are!
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Sep 20, 2006 9:13 PM
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There's no way I could have known he'd go this far out there, but I did actually write quite a lengthy essay during his first Presidential campaign about exactly what kind of an idiotic halfwit corporate puppet of a person he was, and that voters should elect their pet iguanas over Bush. I believe I even threw something in there about how he'd have to pray for a war in order to have any kind of credibility as a leader. If only I had national exposure this may have been avoided.
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Posted by: LeftWright on Sep 20, 2006 11:02 PM
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Witness the obvious election frauds of 2000 and 2004 that clearly show "our democracy" to be a sham marketed as a world icon.
Witness the final throes of an unsustainable, ecologically disastrous, debt-driven, overlapping multi-bubble economy which is one oil or currency shock away from collapse.
Witness the absolute moral depravity of a subset of an elite class that murders 3,000 of its own citizens to make one last bold attempt to stave off its own inevitable decline.
Witness the complete cooptation of the MSM and its failure to see or report on any of this.
The time for denial is over.
The real strength of America is its hardworking, creative, idealistic and diverse people. When arroused these people can and will accomplish great things.
Prepare for the Second American Revolution, it's coming sooner than you think.
Take a walk, talk to your neighbors. Plant a vegetable garden, march for peace. Remember that human beings are inherently irrational and imperfect, be forgiving.
The truth shall set you free. Love is the only way forward.
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Posted by: AtmeratisX on Sep 21, 2006 10:10 PM
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Beginning with the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980's, the Gingrich "Contract" and lately the Bush "imperial presidency," a complacent American public have let a cabal of fanatic ideologs, there blind followers, their political machine and their talk radio propagandists virtually take control of the greatest democracy in the history of the world.
Every time I see one of these people (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, or the like) on TV, I pray to God (or whoever) that this country will survive another 2 yrs 4 mos. I pray that in Washington or somewhere there are sane, intelligent people who will have the fortitude to put a stop to or at least put some curbs on this hell-bent ideological insanity. I hope and pray for intelligent and sane leadership in all three branches of our nation's goverment. It looks to me like those in Congress and the Judiciary (remember checks and balances??) who are not blind followers are scared to death to say or do anything.
I don't post much here, but I read. All the name calling, the one-liners, the bitch, pissing, and moaning isn't going to make a damned bit of difference if sane, intelligent, Americans don't rise and stand against this insanity and return America to government "of, for, and by the People."
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Posted by: phospheresence on Sep 21, 2006 10:18 PM
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I'm Australian, btw. And where were the protests in support of the people of the Gulf states and New Orleans, when all tiers of government just left tens of thousands of the most vulnerable, to die, or survive, pretty much by their own efforts?
What don't the people who say they oppose Bush, do something to protest about him and his crazed policies. If the US attacks Iran, are you finally going to speak up?
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Posted by: Burtonger on Sep 21, 2006 10:56 PM
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Posted by: Burtonger on Sep 21, 2006 11:33 PM
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BUT congress is corrupt and doesn't respresent the people anymore.
ONLY HOPE is military refusing treasonous/unconstitutional orders and arresting the criminals in charge of EVERYTHING.
WOW FINALLY A COUP AT HOME.almost
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Posted by: logansafi on Sep 22, 2006 12:24 PM
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The Democrats paved and still pave the way for the Republican onslaught, and Sidney Blumenthal is an integral part of this TweedleDumb con to blame TweedleDee for all that's evil in our US corporate dictatorship. It's just not true, because the Democrats are half the problem, and not any of the solution.
Don't want corporations to run roughshod over American civic life? Want to ALTER America for the better? Then don't buy the sweet syrupy lies of one of the corporate parties' main con men, Sidney Blumenthal. He and his Democratic Party are no panacea for anything.
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