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John Lennon and the Politics of Deportation
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The Lennon deportation case had an unusual genesis, when Strom Thurmond, Republican senator from South Carolina, sent a letter to the White House in 1972. Thurmond outlined Lennon's plans for a U.S. concert tour that would combine rock music with antiwar organizing and voter registration -- 1972 was the first year that 18-year-olds were given the right to vote, and Nixon was up for reelection and worried about 11 million new voters who were probably all Beatle fans and mostly antiwar. Thurmond's memo observed that Lennon was in the United States as a British citizen, and concluded "deportation would be a strategic counter-measure."
The rest of the story is documented in the Lennon FBI files, which I requested under the Freedom of Information Act in 1981, shortly after Lennon was killed. The FBI declared it had 281 pages of files on Lennon, but was withholding most of them, claiming they were "national security" documents. The bulk of those files were released under the FOIA in 1997, after 15 years of litigation -- I was the plaintiff, represented by the ACLU of Southern California and Morrison & Foerster LLP -- and published in 2000 in my book "Gimme Some Truth: The John Lennon FBI Files."
The story of Nixon versus Lennon ended, of course, with Nixon leaving the White House, and Lennon staying in the USA. But Lennon was not only world-famous; although he was a "foreigner," he was a white man from Britain. What if he had been a dark-skinned man from a Muslim country? The George W. Bush administration has gone far beyond Nixon in using immigration law to prevent critics of U.S. policy from entering the country, and to get rid of noncitizens whom the White House doesn't like.
Lennon was permitted to enter the U.S. in 1970, but musicians and artists of all kinds seeking to visit the U.S. have faced immense new obstacles since Sept. 11. A new law, the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Reform Act of 2002, requires that people seeking to travel to the U.S. from one of seven countries appearing on a State Department list of "state sponsors of terrorism" undergo extra background checks. The result is not exactly censorship, because in the age of mechanical reproduction these artists' films and music can still be seen and heard here. Nevertheless, the crackdown does represent a form of politically motivated attack on artists the government considers undesirable for political reasons.
Among the most prominent people to be targeted by the INS were the 22 members of the Cuban delegation to the 2002 Latin Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, blocked from attending. One of those denied a visa was jazz pianist Chucho Valdes, who won that year's Latin Grammy for best pop instrumental album. (Cuba has been described by the Bush administration as a nation that has assisted Al Qaeda -- an absurd argument.) Also, the internationally acclaimed Iranian film director Abbas Kiarostami, who won the Palme d'Or at Cannes in 1997 for "A Taste of Cherry," was unable to get a visa to attend the premiere of his new film at the 2002 New York Film Festival. Kiarostami had previously visited the United States seven times. These cases were more outrageous than Lennon's, not only because Americans were denied the opportunity to see and hear these artists in person, but also because they were targeted by the INS not for any actions of theirs as individuals -- they were targeted only because of their national backgrounds, because they came from countries the Bush administration defined as enemies of the U.S.
Then there are the young men from Muslim countries who have been rounded up by the INS since 9/11 and deported; unlike Lennon, they were not outspoken critics of American foreign policy. Their offense was simply being young, male and Muslim. According to Human Rights Watch, in the weeks after 9/11 the Justice Department required thousands of noncitizens from a list of Muslim countries to report to authorities for interviews and fingerprinting; at least 760 noncitizens were arrested and detained on immigration charges. Many were held for months without being charged with any crime, denied the right to counsel and the possibility of release on bond, subjected to "excessively harsh conditions of confinement that included cases of physical and verbal abuse," and then put on trial in secret deportation hearings. Secret trials are anathema to democracy, and a year later a federal appeals court struck down the government's blanket policy of conducting secret deportation hearings in post-9/11 cases as a violation of the First Amendment.
If Bush has dramatically increased the number of foreigners denied entry into the U.S. for political reasons, Nixon pointed the way with Lennon. But Nixon was hardly the first to use American immigration law to deport "undesirable" radicals who weren't citizens. Wartime has often seen efforts to silence antiwar activists, and Lennon's case has some uncanny parallels to opponents of the U.S. entry into World War I. The anarchist leader Emma Goldman was deported in 1919 after speaking out against World War I and in favor of anarchism. She was an immigrant who became a citizen but had been stripped of her citizenship in 1908 on the grounds that she was an anarchist. That made her subject to deportation under the Sedition Act of 1918, which gave the federal government the power to declare noncitizens "undesirable aliens" and deport them. Thousands of other antiwar radicals were deported along with her. (The same law included a wholesale attack on freedom of speech -- it made it a crime to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the government, the flag or the military forces during war, and it banned antiwar publications from the mail.)
The Sedition Act was repealed in 1921, so Nixon did not have the power to declare Lennon an "undesirable alien" and deport him on those grounds. Instead, the Nixon administration argued that Lennon had been wrongly admitted to the U.S. in the first place -- because under then-existing immigration law, anyone with a drug conviction, no matter how minor, no matter what the circumstances, was ineligible for admission to the U.S., and Lennon had pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of possession of cannabis in London in 1968. (He claimed the hashish had been planted by the police.)
During World War II, of course, the government put those it considered undesirable aliens in detention rather than deporting them -- and of course many of the 150,000 Japanese nationals and Japanese-Americans sent to Manzanar and other "relocation centers" were not antiwar activists or noncitizens; virtually all were loyal to the U.S., and a third were citizens.
Cold War government repression brought another wave of deportation. Several commentators have said the only precedent for kicking an outspoken radical like Lennon out of the country was the attack on Charlie Chaplin, who like Lennon had remained a British citizen after moving to the U.S. Chaplin was targeted by the FBI's Hoover and other McCarthyites, and denounced for "un-American activities" and communist sympathies. He was subpoenaed by the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1947 but got his hearing postponed three times and never did appear. In 1952 he visited London for the premiere of his new film "Limelight." While he was in England the Immigration Service revoked his permit to reenter the U.S., so he decided to make his home in Vevey, Switzerland. Lennon, perhaps aware of Chaplin's story, did not leave the U.S. while his immigration hearing was pending, and he did not meet Chaplin's fate.
In some ways the closest parallel to Lennon's case is Picasso's. In 1950, Pablo Picasso applied for a visa to the United States for the first time. The purpose of the artist's visit was to lead 12 delegates from the World Congress of Peace Partisans to Washington in an effort to persuade President Truman and the U.S. Congress to ban the atomic bomb. The peace congress, which had been founded a year earlier in Paris and Prague, was a communist front and had been identified as such. And Picasso himself was a prominent member of the French Communist Party; the FBI had monitored him since 1944. After consulting the American embassies in Paris and Moscow, and conferring with senators, House members and the FBI, the State Department in March 1950 denied visas for the entire delegation, including Picasso. The grounds were that the "famous painter" and his colleagues in the delegation were "known communists and fellow travelers" and thus "subject to exclusion under the immigration laws." It was big news: The New York Times ran a picture of Picasso on page 9 under the headline "Denied Entry to U.S."
Picasso's politics that year could be summed up with one word: "peace." This was the year he painted the dove as symbol of peace, an image that became the icon of the world peace movement of the 1950s, reproduced on posters and postage stamps around the world. The dove was Picasso's version of "All we are saying is give peace a chance."
Lennon too was denied a visa when he applied to enter the U.S. in 1969 for his peace campaign -- he wanted to hold a "bed-in for peace" in the U.S. along the lines of the bed-in in Amsterdam, where he and Yoko had declared their honeymoon a political protest and spent a week in bed at the Amsterdam Hilton giving interviews about their antiwar stance. After being denied entry to the U.S., Lennon went to Canada, where he hoped to reach the U.S. media across the border. At the second bed-in for peace, in Montreal, he recorded "Give Peace a Chance." But the following year he was admitted to the United States, and so, unlike Picasso, he was able to conduct his peace campaign within the U.S.
The big issue behind the story of "The U.S. vs. John Lennon" is White House abuse of power, especially the power to deport radicals, activists and critics of the president. The question is what we can do to fight that kind of abuse of power today. Some people say "we need a new John Lennon to lead the fight." But Lennon himself had a much better answer, which, typically, he put into a song: "Power to the people." The only real solution to abuse of power at the top is to strengthen democracy at the bottom, to help mobilize ordinary people to fight for their rights -- including the rights of noncitizens. Even though John Lennon was one of the most famous people in the world, and a person with plenty money for lawyers, he needed a lot of help to win his case. Today's targets of the Bush administration immigration service need a lot more help -- and it's up to those of us who have the rights of citizenship to provide it.
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In 2004, Ono was quoted by Reuters that...Vanunu [was] honored as "[a person] who has spoken out for the benefit of the human race by overcoming extreme personal difficulties and, in doing so, have allowed the truth to prevail…He did complete his sentence, it's not as though he's a criminal…People power is stronger than the power of institutions."
Vanunu is a hero to Palestinians and many Internationals, but is surrounded by many who despise him as a traitor.
Vanunu has consistently maintained that he spoke out twenty years ago [that Israel had gone Nuclear] and continues to do so under threat of more jail time, because he only wants to save Israel from a "New Holocaust."
In a March 2006 interview with this reporter, Vanunu stated, "When I decided to expose Israel's nuclear weapons I acted out of conscience and to warn the world to prevent a nuclear holocaust…The Dimona is 46 years old; reactors last 25 to 30 years. The Dimona has never been inspected and Israel has never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty; but all the Arab states have...Twenty years ago when I worked there they only produced when the air was blowing towards Jordan ten miles away. No one knows what is happening now."
In June 2005, he told me, "The only way to peace is peace; the only way is non-violence. The only answer to Israeli nuclear weapons, their aggression, occupation and oppression, the wall and refugee camps is to answer them with truth and a peace-full voice. When I became the spy for the world I did it all for the people of the world. If governments do not report the truth, if media does not report the truth, all we can do is follow our conscience... Israel is not a democracy unless you are a Jew. Israel is the only country in the Middle East where America can right now find WMD's. America can also find where basic human rights have been denied Christians, right here in Israel."
In Ray Coleman's biography of John Lennon, he quotes the artist circa 1969, "I'd like to be like Christ, [he described himself as a Christian communist] in a pure sense, not in the way Russia or Italy think of Christianity or communism…Every body's uptight [fearful] and they're always building these walls around themselves. All you can do is try to break down the walls and show them that there's nothing there but people… I only know that peace can exist, and the first thing is for the world to disarm…I think I'll win because I believe in what Jesus said."-LENNON , McGraw-Hill, 1984. pgs -374-381.
So does Vanunu and he has always insisted, "My Christian conversion was also considered as treason and led to me receiving more time in jail than any murderer has ever served. The Israelis have this very beautiful article about freedom and liberty but they want to destroy anyone who criticizes them for revealing the truth to the world. The world must look and see what kind of democracy Israel is when one speaks out the truth."
Article 18 of the UDHR affirms that: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right includes freedom to change one’s religion.
Love him, or loathe him, one thing remains certain: Vanunu will continue to give us some truth, if we have ears to hear him.
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Can't wait to see this film though, for John Lennon, not the anti NIXON bent. We all know how Nixon was viewed then and how he has become to be known as one of our better presidents now.
and Angela Davis and Bobby Seale?.come on! . Davis was a communists - in the US in the 60's..and she wanted to be loved??? The communists were so anti human rights that I often wondered what was behind her thinking, and they were anti "west" and committed to the overthrow of capitalist countries.. she should have moved to Russia - alot of freedom there!
Seale.. was a violent activists.. here's a quote from him in a speach in Grant park - "If the police get in the way of our march, tangle with the blue-helmeted motherfuckers and kill them and send them to the morgue slab." .. doesn't hat make you all warm and fuzzy and want to support him.. what a great guy! The Panthers were known to not be beyond extreme violence to achieve their agenda!
and these people are used as a character witness against Nixon.. the author could have done better...
As for Bush administration policies identifying countries that are high risk.. why not.. why should ANYONE have the right to get into this country. Go try to get into Cuba with an anti Castro agenda.. I can go on and on but Bush is doing the right thing re screening foreigners etc.. regardless if they like to paint/make films etc..
as far as rounding up Muslim men in this country illegally after 9-11.. you bet.. just get an ear full of Muslims cheering the 9-11 attack in Patterson NJ.. how nice, and they want our freedoms instead of living in Iran, Iraq etc.. of course they do!
As far a Japanese/American citizens being relocated during WW2, a black spot on Americas history.. but you have to consider, West Coast residents were pushing for this as they expected an attack at any moment - so we the people got what "we" wanted. They didn’t do that to Italians or Germans on the East coast.. maybe we’re more tollerent..!
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In April of 2005, the Bush Administartion denied entry into the United States for 11 of the artists who were scheduled to be in Pittsburgh for the opening, for the same reasons listed in this article.
Just one more example of Bush's abuse of unchecked power.
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From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
Ive had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope"
-JL
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Isn't it interesting? With all of the bad things being done to our society by some seriously bad people, Nixon and Hoover wasted so much time persecuting decent and harmless people like John and Charlie.
And while I'm on the subject, why are any of the pages of Lennon's FBI file still classified? National security??? What could the persecution by a president who has been out of power for over thirty years of a rock 'n' roll singer who has been dead for over twenty-five years possibly have to do with national security? Could it be that the feds might have tried the same COINTELPRO mischief on Lennon that they had done with the Black Panthers? A number of the Panthers wound up getting killed - and Hoover and the FBI arranged these killings. Did they try to put Lennonn in a situation in the early seventies where he could have been killed? I don't doubt it for a minute. That's why those remaining files are being kept under wraps.
Pray for peace.
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And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his guns
But he knows not what it means..."
Republican 'fans' of music are the ones responsible for "ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE" being used in commercials and why artists get screwed by record companies. Stock price is more important to artistic accomplishment to these dickheads. Stick with Nugent, jerk off.
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We hope you consider these warnings and dare,
To help in our struggle against the Cyclops,
Of presidents, directors and military cops!
This business of war is one that requires,
That they look to the masses for many new hires,
And train them to kill with a nod and a wink,
So they’ll never be able to sit and just think!
Cause they’ll be dodging the bullets and curses and lies,
And yes even those good old American Pies,
Hey we always thought that we were the aces,
And that the pies could be eaten, not thrown in our faces,
But those pies are stuffed full of tanks, bombs and rockets,
Bought with the money that should be in our pockets!
Now if makers of the wars seem painstakingly slow,
To send their children, why should anyone go?
Write up a petition! Get those lawmakers to care,
Tell them we’ll be sending their kids if they dare
To perpetuate these wars- we have no other choice
Bush’s children to Iraq? Now we have a voice!
As war is sold, we’re part of the unions,
United false profits against all other humans,
Though they promised to use us mostly as traders,
Now we see we’ve become the invaders!
And please listen carefully lest you think this a joke,
You’ve been enslaved for years and will soon be broke,
‘Cause the pensions to be paid will come from the pocket,
Of tomorrows’ grandchildren, who to US will sock it!
And about that money that used to be in our pockets,
Remember, it was spent on tanks, bombs and rockets?
It brings up a point that you should try not to miss,
Using money to kill is no state of bliss!
So we say, “SHALOM” and LOVE as the true revolution,
We’re proposing this final and solitary solution,
Inner obedience, and caring for others,
Always giving to sisters and brothers!
Part of a poem
By James Mansfield
From the bewilderness
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In 2004, Ono was quoted by Reuters that...Vanunu [was] honored as "[a person] who has spoken out for the benefit of the human race by overcoming extreme personal difficulties and, in doing so, have allowed the truth to prevail…He did complete his sentence, it's not as though he's a criminal…People power is stronger than the power of institutions."
Vanunu is a hero to Palestinians and many Internationals, but is surrounded by many who despise him as a traitor.
Vanunu has consistently maintained that he spoke out twenty years ago [that Israel had gone Nuclear] and continues to do so under threat of more jail time, because he only wants to save Israel from a "New Holocaust."
In a March 2006 interview with this reporter, Vanunu stated, "When I decided to expose Israel's nuclear weapons I acted out of conscience and to warn the world to prevent a nuclear holocaust…The Dimona is 46 years old; reactors last 25 to 30 years. The Dimona has never been inspected and Israel has never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty; but all the Arab states have...Twenty years ago when I worked there they only produced when the air was blowing towards Jordan ten miles away. No one knows what is happening now."
In June 2005, he told me, "The only way to peace is peace; the only way is non-violence. The only answer to Israeli nuclear weapons, their aggression, occupation and oppression, the wall and refugee camps is to answer them with truth and a peace-full voice. When I became the spy for the world I did it all for the people of the world. If governments do not report the truth, if media does not report the truth, all we can do is follow our conscience... Israel is not a democracy unless you are a Jew. Israel is the only country in the Middle East where America can right now find WMD's. America can also find where basic human rights have been denied Christians, right here in Israel."
In Ray Coleman's biography of John Lennon, he quotes the artist circa 1969, "I'd like to be like Christ, [he described himself as a Christian communist] in a pure sense, not in the way Russia or Italy think of Christianity or communism…Every body's uptight [fearful] and they're always building these walls around themselves. All you can do is try to break down the walls and show them that there's nothing there but people… I only know that peace can exist, and the first thing is for the world to disarm…I think I'll win because I believe in what Jesus said."-LENNON , McGraw-Hill, 1984. pgs -374-381.
So does Vanunu and he has always insisted, "My Christian conversion was also considered as treason and led to me receiving more time in jail than any murderer has ever served. The Israelis have this very beautiful article about freedom and liberty but they want to destroy anyone who criticizes them for revealing the truth to the world. The world must look and see what kind of democracy Israel is when one speaks out the truth."
Article 18 of the UDHR affirms that: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right includes freedom to change one’s religion.
Love him, or loathe him, one thing remains certain: Vanunu will continue to give us some truth, if we have ears to hear him.
full article and follow up @
OpedNews.com/maxwrite
OpedNews.com/articles
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Posted by: Conservasaurus on Sep 19, 2006 6:42 AM
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Can't wait to see this film though, for John Lennon, not the anti NIXON bent. We all know how Nixon was viewed then and how he has become to be known as one of our better presidents now.
and Angela Davis and Bobby Seale?.come on! . Davis was a communists - in the US in the 60's..and she wanted to be loved??? The communists were so anti human rights that I often wondered what was behind her thinking, and they were anti "west" and committed to the overthrow of capitalist countries.. she should have moved to Russia - alot of freedom there!
Seale.. was a violent activists.. here's a quote from him in a speach in Grant park - "If the police get in the way of our march, tangle with the blue-helmeted motherfuckers and kill them and send them to the morgue slab." .. doesn't hat make you all warm and fuzzy and want to support him.. what a great guy! The Panthers were known to not be beyond extreme violence to achieve their agenda!
and these people are used as a character witness against Nixon.. the author could have done better...
As for Bush administration policies identifying countries that are high risk.. why not.. why should ANYONE have the right to get into this country. Go try to get into Cuba with an anti Castro agenda.. I can go on and on but Bush is doing the right thing re screening foreigners etc.. regardless if they like to paint/make films etc..
as far as rounding up Muslim men in this country illegally after 9-11.. you bet.. just get an ear full of Muslims cheering the 9-11 attack in Patterson NJ.. how nice, and they want our freedoms instead of living in Iran, Iraq etc.. of course they do!
As far a Japanese/American citizens being relocated during WW2, a black spot on Americas history.. but you have to consider, West Coast residents were pushing for this as they expected an attack at any moment - so we the people got what "we" wanted. They didn’t do that to Italians or Germans on the East coast.. maybe we’re more tollerent..!
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» "you have to seperate the artist from his politics.. music and art is meant to sooth"
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Posted by: janisw on Sep 19, 2006 6:50 AM
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In April of 2005, the Bush Administartion denied entry into the United States for 11 of the artists who were scheduled to be in Pittsburgh for the opening, for the same reasons listed in this article.
Just one more example of Bush's abuse of unchecked power.
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» The Cuba off America - that one!
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» Helping a mate with terrorism
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Posted by: buffaloT on Sep 19, 2006 7:45 AM
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From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
Ive had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope"
-JL
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 20, 2006 2:07 AM
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Isn't it interesting? With all of the bad things being done to our society by some seriously bad people, Nixon and Hoover wasted so much time persecuting decent and harmless people like John and Charlie.
And while I'm on the subject, why are any of the pages of Lennon's FBI file still classified? National security??? What could the persecution by a president who has been out of power for over thirty years of a rock 'n' roll singer who has been dead for over twenty-five years possibly have to do with national security? Could it be that the feds might have tried the same COINTELPRO mischief on Lennon that they had done with the Black Panthers? A number of the Panthers wound up getting killed - and Hoover and the FBI arranged these killings. Did they try to put Lennonn in a situation in the early seventies where he could have been killed? I don't doubt it for a minute. That's why those remaining files are being kept under wraps.
Pray for peace.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan
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Posted by: 7 Levels on Sep 20, 2006 7:17 AM
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And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his guns
But he knows not what it means..."
Republican 'fans' of music are the ones responsible for "ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE" being used in commercials and why artists get screwed by record companies. Stock price is more important to artistic accomplishment to these dickheads. Stick with Nugent, jerk off.
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» Just a little love!
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Posted by: dadanbetty on Sep 20, 2006 9:29 AM
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Posted by: Jamesalternet on Sep 21, 2006 5:42 AM
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We hope you consider these warnings and dare,
To help in our struggle against the Cyclops,
Of presidents, directors and military cops!
This business of war is one that requires,
That they look to the masses for many new hires,
And train them to kill with a nod and a wink,
So they’ll never be able to sit and just think!
Cause they’ll be dodging the bullets and curses and lies,
And yes even those good old American Pies,
Hey we always thought that we were the aces,
And that the pies could be eaten, not thrown in our faces,
But those pies are stuffed full of tanks, bombs and rockets,
Bought with the money that should be in our pockets!
Now if makers of the wars seem painstakingly slow,
To send their children, why should anyone go?
Write up a petition! Get those lawmakers to care,
Tell them we’ll be sending their kids if they dare
To perpetuate these wars- we have no other choice
Bush’s children to Iraq? Now we have a voice!
As war is sold, we’re part of the unions,
United false profits against all other humans,
Though they promised to use us mostly as traders,
Now we see we’ve become the invaders!
And please listen carefully lest you think this a joke,
You’ve been enslaved for years and will soon be broke,
‘Cause the pensions to be paid will come from the pocket,
Of tomorrows’ grandchildren, who to US will sock it!
And about that money that used to be in our pockets,
Remember, it was spent on tanks, bombs and rockets?
It brings up a point that you should try not to miss,
Using money to kill is no state of bliss!
So we say, “SHALOM” and LOVE as the true revolution,
We’re proposing this final and solitary solution,
Inner obedience, and caring for others,
Always giving to sisters and brothers!
Part of a poem
By James Mansfield
From the bewilderness
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