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See Dick Run (the Country)

By Robert Kuttner, The American Prospect. Posted August 29, 2006.


Cheney's the real president. It'd be nice if the press noticed.

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George W. Bush has been faulted in some quarters for taking an extended vacation while the Middle East festers. It doesn't much matter; the man running the country is Vice President Dick Cheney.

When historians look back on the multiple assaults on our constitutional system of government in this era, Cheney's unprecedented role will come in for overdue notice. Cheney's shotgun mishap, when he accidentally sprayed his host with birdshot, has gotten more media attention than has his control of the government.

Historically, the vice president's job was to ceremonially preside over the Senate, attend second-tier foreign funerals, and be prepared for the president to die. Students are taught that John Nance Garner, Franklin Roosevelt's first vice president, compared the job to a bucket of warm spit (and historians say spit was not the word the pungent Texan actually used).

Recent vice presidents Walter Mondale and Al Gore were given more authority than most, but there was no doubt that the president was in charge.

Cheney is in a class by himself. The administration's grand strategy and its implementation are the work of Cheney -- sometimes Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, sometimes Cheney and political director Karl Rove.

Cheney has planted aides in major Cabinet departments, often over the objection of a Cabinet secretary, to make sure his policies are carried out. He sits in on the Senate Republican caucus, to stamp out any rebellions. Cheney loyalists from the Office of the Vice President dominate interagency planning meetings.

The Iraq war is the work of Cheney and Rumsfeld. The capture of the career civil service is pure Cheney. The disciplining of Congress is the work of Cheney and Rove. The turning over of energy policy to the oil companies is Cheney. The extreme secrecy is Cheney and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

If Cheney were the president, more of this would be smoked out because the press would be paying attention. The New York Times' acerbic columnist Maureen Dowd regularly makes sport of Cheney's dominance, and there are plenty of jokes (Bush is a heartbeat away from the presidency). But you can count serious newspaper or magazine articles on Cheney's operation on the fingers of one hand. One of the first was by Bob Dreyfuss writing in the Prospect -- "Vice Squad," on all the vice-president's men, which ran in our May issue. Another notable example is Charlie Savage's important May 28th piece in The Boston Globe on Cheney operative David Addington, the architect and chief reviewer of legislation for "signing statements." The most comprehensive was Jane Mayer's fine piece in the July 3 New Yorker on Addington.

Cheney's power is matched only by his penchant for secrecy. When Dreyfuss requested the names of people who serve on the vice president's staff, he was told this was classified information. Former staffers for other departments provided Dreyfuss with names. This journalism requires a lot of hard work, but it is gettable because so many people in government have been sandbagged by the Cheney operation and are willing to provide information.

So secretive is Cheney (and so incurious the media) that when his chief of staff, Irving Lewis Libby, was implicated in the leaked identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, reporters who rushed to look Libby up on Nexis and Google found that Libby had barely rated previous press attention. Why does this matter? Because if the man actually running the government is out of the spotlight, the administration and its policies are far less accountable.

When George W. Bush narrowly defeated John Kerry in 2004, many commentators observed that Bush was the fellow with whom you would rather have a beer. It's an accurate and unflattering comment on the American electorate -- but then who wants to have a beer with Cheney? The public may not know the details of his operation, but voters intuitively recoil from him. Bush's popularity ratings are now under 40 percent, beer or no, reflecting dwindling confidence in where he is taking the country. But Cheney's ratings are stuck around 20 percent, far below that of any president.

If Cheney were the actual president, not just the de facto one, he simply could not govern with the same set of policies and approval ratings of 20 percent. The media focuses relentless attention on the president, on the premise that he is actually the chief executive. But for all intents and purposes, Cheney is chief, and Bush is more in the ceremonial role of the queen of England. Yet the press buys the pretense of Bush being "the decider," and relentlessly covers Bush -- meeting with world leaders, cutting brush, holding press conferences, while Cheney works in secret, largely undisturbed. So let's take half the members of the overblown White House press corps, which has almost nothing to do anyway, and send them over to Cheney Boot Camp for Reporters. They might learn how to be journalists again, and we might learn who is running the government.

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Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect. This column originally appeared in The Boston Globe.

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Posted by: Thundergod on Aug 29, 2006 12:24 AM   
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Dick Cheney is a draft dodger 5 times, a Drunken Driver three times and has ties to Nixon...

This worthless piece of crap should be in jail by now!

How a gutless jerk got to this level in our government is beyond any sense...

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Thundergod
Posted by: Thundergod on Aug 29, 2006 12:29 AM   
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Dick Cheney dodged the draft 5 times, received three DUI's and was in the Nixon white house!

This worthless piece of crap should be in jail by now!

How a Chikenshit gutless jerk got to this level in our government to begin with is a start!

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Queen
Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 29, 2006 1:26 AM   
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Bush would make a great Queen of England but he is a worthless president. Cheney, the real president is a worse than worthless president because he does everything like a tinhorn dictator thus creating the mass murder in Iraq plus numerous other American-created tragedies. Get all these warmongering disaster-creating, election-stealing criminals out of office. Our democracy cannot improve until we kick their asses out.

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Cheney and Warm Piss: A Comparison
Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 29, 2006 1:44 AM   
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VP Garner's famous quote that the office of the vice presidency wasn't "worth a bucket of warm piss" immediately got me to thinking about Dick Cheney....

A few months ago I made the comparison between Cheney and Agnew (now I can't stop thinking about two buckets of piss. Go figure!) In 1973, impeaching Dick Nixon and replacing him with someone as thoroughly disgusting as Agnew was as disturbing a prospect as...well...impeaching the First Fool and replacing him with someone as thoroughly disgusting as Cheney. But, duh, Degan! As this article makes perfectly clear, Cheney really IS the president! If Cheney should drop dead of a heart attack today....[LONG THOUGHTFUL PAUSE]...I'm sorry...where was I?....Oh yeah: Were Cheney to drop dead of a heart attack today, think of what that might mean for your country! The murderous little half-wit from Crawford, Texas would actually be forced to be "the decider". Can you imagine that? What would THAT mean for our country??

Actually, both of them need to be removed, prosecuted and hauled off to federal prison for the rest of their fucking lives for their crimes against humanity in general ant the children of Iraq in particular. That's why it is so important that the democrats re-take the House and Senate in November. What a depressing thought: "The democrats are our best hope". Sad but true. If the GOP retains control of congress this November, you might as well kiss your republic good bye.

Pray for peace.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
The Rant by Tom Degan

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That Bush does and says what Cheney tells him to do and say fits.
Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 29, 2006 2:29 AM   
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I truly appreciate the insight that it is Cheney who deserves media investigation. Bush is not the decider but is merely the actor. It is Cheney who writes the script. It is a powerful combination, because Bush plays his part so well.

All the BS about social renewal in Iraq prated by Bush is just PR coverage for the US to build bases there. I feel certain that Bush must never ask Cheney for an explanation of why things have gone so wrong, because that would betray Bush paying attention for himself.

When Bush was first elected, it was almost reassuring that Cheney would be there to guide him. However, it turns out that Cheney must have been held in check by Bush, Sr. since Bush Jr. governs so differently.

We have been blindsided by Cheney. And it is so much easier for the media to play their part as pawns in Cheney's game and report on Bush rather than report on Cheney.

I'd be interested now to hear from Texas reporters whether something similar was the pattern when W was governor. A dummy cannot do anything without the ventriloquist. Who was it in Texas?

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Wow!
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Aug 29, 2006 3:32 AM   
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This is really a big surprise. Next thing there will be an expose that the campaigns of both parties are financed by the same corporate establishment. Oh, I forgot, this information has been public record for years. Click on Open Secrets These kind corporate folks save the taxpayers millions of dollars at every election. Who says "there's no free lunch"?

So, the pharmaceutical industry gave the Republicans $20 million and the Democrats $10 million, very nice of them. By a strange coincidence when the Senior's Prescription drug plan was passed it benefitted the pharmacruticals more than it benefitted the seniors. Only a cynic would think that there's a connection.

Campaign contributions aren't gifts they're the best corporate investmnets in the world!

We can vote the Republicans out and we can vote the Democrats out but we can't vote the corporate establishment out. They control both parties. I think that the best hope is a grassroots movement to try take control of both parties before the election. Once you cast your vote it has no power until shortly before the next election. Now is the time for action.
Bob Reichenbach
Director, The Lincoln Initiative

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When will those really in power be exposed?
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Again and again..the same rhetoric is being lobbed on the basketball court of denial!!!It does not matter who is holding the reigns of our consitution!!!The Black jesuits have been holding power..not just in America, but in Europe, Asia, and Africa, as well as in the Baltics..and Russia. Since the French revolution..these dark minions from hell whos oath it is to usurp-plunder-destroy-divide is absolute with their Helgilian oath for absolutism--problem-reaction-resolve..Until America wakes up and decides to get its head out of its fat ass--we as a nation are screwed!!-all of us are termed useless eaters by this dark hidden cabal!!! This has nothing to do with conspiracy..it is the unalterable truth..The media has been the whore of this cabal for decades!!! Support altrernet.com-globalresearch.com...all of those sites..who are unyeilding in exposing the truth..Whew!!!

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darth vader
Posted by: ellie on Aug 29, 2006 4:27 AM   
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in our house we call Cheney Darth Vader, and for good reason, think about it. BTW, where's our Luke Skywalker, helloooooo???????

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And a reminder to the next Congress:
Posted by: just john on Aug 29, 2006 5:13 AM   
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Keep him out of the White House. Impeach this guy FIRST.

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no matter who..sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Aug 29, 2006 5:16 AM   
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wins in November I kissed my Republic goodbye as soon as Bush said I do and I don't mean his wedding vows. With the courts right up to the Supremes, the media and the money controlled by the Republicans we will get nowhere by impeachment or any other means. Revolution is out; they have us outgunned unless the military would rebel which is doubtful.

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power behind the throne
Posted by: larry278 on Aug 29, 2006 6:02 AM   
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R B 'sure shot' Cheney possibly fancies himself as W's most powerful handler & THE power behind the throne. He is more qualified than W with 3 DUI's & 5 incidents of draft dodging to serve as the USA's senior slacker. W has only 1 DUI, on the record for now, & a series of AWOL's from components of USAF but he is President. Rumors of W's use of cocaine don't count. Cheney has the experience. While Cheney has had the help of Donald 'rum dum' Rumsfeld in creating & expanding the Iraq fiasco, the bungling of domestic matters must be considered a Cheney accomplishment. W is a petty bungler. Cheney is a master bungler. It must pain Cheney to consider what has leaked out about his record. One gets the impression that Cheney would have enjoyed being the unknown grey figure behind the thrones of kingdoms & empires of the past. That pleasure is gone simply because of the unfortunate incident of shooting a hunting buddy.
Those who plan a regime change to remove W probably are seeking evidence of Cheney's crimes to force him to leave as Spiro Agnew left Nixon's administration in disgrace. It is too soon to cast Joe Lieberman in the Jerry Ford role in the unlikely event that Cheney resigns or dies before W is removed from office. Would removal from office by the U S Senate incident to impeachment of W preclude a treason trial for W after removal from office?

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whip
Posted by: ps2987 on Aug 29, 2006 6:22 AM   
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Bush as Queen of the USA. That's it. It's perfect, although he does read more speeches than the Queen and does pretend that he understands what's going on.

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Thats why impeachment has to include Cheney!!!!
Posted by: Prophit on Aug 29, 2006 7:03 AM   
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And before anyone gives Bush a pass because he is not in charge, remember the sign on Trumans desk "The Buck Stops here".

He is the one we elected to be held responsible for everything in his administration. His hands off management style is probably why he never owned a business that didn't fail or that never succeeded (glass half empty?). And we put him in charge of an organization (the fed gov) that is larger than our entire manufacturing industry. Now tell me that makes any sense.

I knew Cheney was a pig when he pushed through Clarence Thomas and slandered Anita Hill during those hearings and I vowed then never to support that man in anything. Clarence Thomas proved to be everything we were worried about. Remember the issues in the Thomas hearings were porno, sexual abuse of employees, lying under oath as a supreme court justice, and perversion. That fits nicely with the Cheney White House that requested copies of the sexual torture videos of the little children from the prisons in Iraq. Cheney supports perversion. Don't forget the Franklin scandels of the 80's and Bush's dad when Cheney worked for him as well. We have a lot to remember here.

Yes its time for VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBANTS REGARDLESS OF PARTY and IMPEACHMENT AND WAR CRIMES TRIALS FOR BOTH BUSH AND CHENEY. Can't do one without the other.

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How about sunshine for both Bush and Cheney?
Posted by: ggmurray on Aug 29, 2006 7:19 AM   
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How about this: Every time there is a media story about Bush, there is a 'Meanwhile, back in Washington, Cheney was doing this..." correspondng story. A simultaneous sunhine policy for both men.

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His energy task force findings still unknown.
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Aug 29, 2006 7:35 AM   
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What may be the greatest threat to this earth are the findings and his strategy after the energy task force that was assembled in February of 2001. It may be for reasons found by this group, that the oil companies are riding on the back of the US intelligence services and military to take as much oil as possible from other nations that have posed not threat as we are continually lied to.

The organization of this administration is made up of the greatest criminal elements, most of which were pardoned at the end of the Reagan administration, for their actions in Iran-Contra. Dick Cheney is the mob's boss. John Negroponte was the godfather of death squads during the Contra War. Wherever he goes, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Iraq, or Venezuela, death squads are likely to follow. Negroponte, director of national intelligence for the United States, announced on August 18 the creation of a new special CIA mission to oversee intelligence activities in Venezuela and Cuba.

The fact that our real leader is familiar with the duo of death, John Negroponte and Michael Chertoff who head National Intelligence and Homeland Security respectively, scares the hell out of me. Under the leadership of Cheney, others such as Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, Wurmser, Feith, Franklin, Bolton, Ledeen, Libby and others, have helped make this country one of the most hated in the world. Do these people even care about the average American citizen?

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Cheney is co-President
Posted by: robchapman on Aug 29, 2006 9:41 AM   
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Mr. Kuttner makes an impressive, but unpersuasive argument .

His thesis is that Cheney is charge and he exhorts the press to report this.

The press is behaving properly, Mr. Kuttner is simply misinterpreting the facts.
GW Bush has developed a new approach to the conduct of the office of the Presidency. This President relies on a CONTINUOUS CAMPAIGN to cement the GOP political agenda.

GW Bush is out of DC and in attendance at GOP fund-raising events about 145 times a year, or about every other day.

Whether or not Bush is effective may be debated, but the President's chief role in this administration has been to stay on the road and sell the program.

Cheney's role is to stay in Washington and run the government from his undisclosed location.

Bush clearly is in command and his thoughts, personality and policy determinations are adopted and stringently followed.

Cheney executes policy in the governmental sphere, Rove in the political sphere.
Bush has been far too successful far too long because people like Mr. Kuttner continue to misunderestimate him.

If the Democrats and the left want to win the confidence of the American people and govern through the electoral process, they should make the GOP run on Bush's record and not make inaccurate complaints about peripheral issues like the executive structure of Bush's official family.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, New York

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Finally!
Posted by: talkville on Aug 29, 2006 10:13 AM   
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Finally a relevant and timely (or past-timely) reminder to take a good look at the structure of this our current government structure and dynamics. The "state within the state" begins finally to emerge.

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Exactly - Cheney (via Rove, with assist from Rummie)
Posted by: dale0k on Aug 29, 2006 10:34 AM   
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How true.

Cheney has been the main force in pushing forth the neo-con agenda, and power-grabbing program in general. Cheney, Rumsfeld, the "idea" men, and Rove, the architect.

Bush is the "front man," the happy face of conservatism (a la Reagan), or whatever you want to call the "program."

And what is the "program?" The end is power and money. The means? - whatever it takes...

Sell fear (9/11, the give that keeps giving). Reward your friends (supporters and donors). Discourage and disable your enemies. Take what you can, give as little as possible - whether it is executive power, judicial appointments, or legislative coups.

Nowhere do public service and public good figure into the "program."

Were Cheney and Rove to leave, the country might revert back to something like a 3-branch government. Wouldn't that be something.

Until then, look for more of the "program."

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secret energy policy and 9/11
Posted by: kellysgarden on Aug 29, 2006 11:00 AM   
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Cheney's secret energy policy was the reason we went to war in Iraq, and Cheney stood down the military in order to get his pretext to that war.

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Bush defeated Kerry???
Posted by: badkitty on Aug 29, 2006 11:31 AM   
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"When George W. Bush narrowly defeated John Kerry in 2004, many commentators observed that Bush was the fellow with whom you would rather have a beer." On what grounds do you believe Bush defeated Kerry, narrow or otherwise, Mr. Kuttner? Bush can't prove that he won in 2000, and he can't prove he won in 2004. These two elections were decided by the people who were in charge of counting the votes, not the actual vote count, and it's pretty clear the vote counts in both elections were manipulated in many different ways, none of them favorable to Gore or Kerry. As long as people say "Bush won", "Gore lost", "Kerry lost", all we have to look forward to this November is more bogus reasons why the Democrats "lost" again. It's who counts the votes, stupid. Let's keep saying that. If we don't keep that in mind, Nancy Pelosi will not be president after Bush and Cheney are impeached.

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O.K.; now let's convince an uncaring nation. . .
Posted by: monkeywrench on Aug 29, 2006 11:48 AM   
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Cheney has been driving the Limo of State since 2000; Bush is merely the hood ornament.

Yes, we in the progressive movement all know this; the problem, this good article that preaches to the choir notwithstanding, is how to convince the ignorant american public. Until THEY "get it," nothing is going to change, and in 2008 we'll end up with another functionally and morally empty, but wily and Machiavellian, president: Frist, McCain, or – God forbid! – Jeb Bush (President JEB?!).

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» A good 50% are in a trance Posted by: WhuThe?!?
jmgiza
Posted by: jmgiza on Aug 29, 2006 11:51 AM   
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Excellent article! My first thought is "what took you so long to write this?"
Secondly, how do we get the indy media to wake up and start covering this story? The MSM has been AWOL so long I doubt they remember HOW to cover a real story - as the writer suggest, time to send them all back to journalist boot camp.

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» RE: They Woke Up; No One Cares Posted by: Lincoln fan
ENDURING FREEEDOM?? Just what does this term mean??
Posted by: coalbanks on Aug 29, 2006 12:42 PM   
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When it was first introduced I assumed that the term "ENDURING FREEDOM" meant that freedom would endure the attacks of al-quida et al. Today I wonder if it might have a differant meaning, especially to those in the countries where the USA & allies are promoting this policy, ie Iraq, Afghanistan : Enduring as in " surviving an unwanted & dangerous experience, ie enduring bombing, occupation of your homeland by foriegn troops ? It is a sobering thought that in time the concept of freedom may someday (today?) be on a par with fascism/communism/imperialism & other totalitarian regimes. Any comments from those experiencing "ENDURING FREEDOM"?

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Nothing New Really
Posted by: whyoung on Aug 29, 2006 1:05 PM   
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Is it just me or wasn't this obvious before 2000? Knowing GW's track record in business, as well as his inept governing of Texas, was this really that difficult to see prior to his run for president? I hardly think so had anyone actually cared to study his past failures before casting their vote. Of course this would require an informed citizenry, which we the people are certainly not famous for.

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» RE: Nothing New Really Posted by: Bbear41
Alternet has done a great job of uncovering Cheney
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Aug 29, 2006 1:28 PM   
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Great article - in fact, Alternet's coverage of Cheney has been outstanding, especially when you look at the mainstream media's love-fest with Cheney (even after his drunken shooting spree). Cheney and Rumsfeld are the heart and the head of this corrupt government, with many lackeys and hangers-on (Rice and Gonzales). From South Park to CNN, the message being put out is that Cheney is our Team Leader, and we are at War and need to support the Team. Lovely propaganda work... the story about Cheney hiding some of his loot in Euros doesn't fit too well with this theme, does it?

See other Alternet coverage of the Evil Penguin here:

The Other Cheney Behind the Scenes (Robert Dreyfuss, American Prospect)

Cheney Thinks Economy Sucks (Evan Derkacz, Alternet)

Cheney's Trouble with Truth (Robert Scheer, AlterNet)


Cheney Starts New Cold War Over Oil (Mark Ames, The eXile)

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otto
Posted by: otto on Aug 29, 2006 1:39 PM   
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It's great that you got many of us to focus on this; maybe a greater awareness of this fact will start the downfall of this corrupt bunch of crooks.

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The Man Behind the Curtain
Posted by: Gtrpicker on Aug 29, 2006 1:39 PM   
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When Bush sat in the chair in that second grade class on 9/11/01 the look on his face was not that of "the decider" but that of someone who just crapped his pants. He was praying that no one would notice that he had just spoiled himself, because he knew that Cheney's plan was in motion and that he had no choice but to follow his script or he would be history.
If this crime family is not stopped starting in November with the election we can be sure they will find a pretense to delay the next election, probably another attack on American soil or the asassination of the president, so that Cheney can finally take the desk himself. The stuff is real and it's scary.

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Thom Hartmann
Posted by: starvinmarvy on Aug 29, 2006 2:46 PM   
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Have we read Thom`s latest?: Reclaiming the Issues: Islamic
or Republican FASCISM?
This story falls right into what Mr.Hartmann writes about yesterday! If ya haven`t already read it..:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0828-23.htm

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War profiteers in charge=Cheney et al
Posted by: 1984NOW!!! on Aug 29, 2006 4:08 PM   
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I just saw the movie Why We Fight, by Eugene Jarecki which left me feeling that we have a mountain of problems to correct. The war machine profiteers are too entrenched in and out of the White House, and those are our real terrorists.
Some have made the analogy to the control that Hal the
supercomputer had in the movie 200l: A Space Odyssey. Corporations
have become so monstrously in control that not even a non-profiteering leader can do anything at this juncture.

Considering this fact, WE THE PEOPLE can do some things to perhaps reverse some of their power, that is why I am supporting Union labor groups right now and voting for whatever wage increase possible for starters, to try to give people back as much power as we can and there are lots of other measures we can push for, such as making companies accountable for the pollution to our environment, pay more taxes etc. etc.

If we perhaps can get one of the Legislative houses back in 2006. There are dozens and dozens of ways to curtail corporations from controlling our government. If WE THE PEOPLE wake up from this national slumber and apathy, we can make some major differences, the problem is that too many are not suffering enough to want to get involved.

Someone above mentioned that it is about time that the name of this country should be tossed in a trash heap. Maybe we deserve that comment. I'M
ANGUISHED TO THE CORE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS MUCH DAMAGE IN SUCH A SHORT TIME, BUT PERHAPS ALL THE PIECES WERE IN PLACE AND IT TOOK GREEDY WAR PROFITEERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO MAKE IT COME TO THIS MUCH FRUITION.

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See if the press notices....
Posted by: cynndikennemer on Aug 29, 2006 4:15 PM   
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Mr. Soros seems to be the biggest contributor to, and beneficiary of, the Democrat Party. The press doesn't notice this. The Party has abandoned one of it's most staunch allies in Joe Lieberman. He has given them a nearly straight party line vote(90% of the time)for the longest time. but he happens to think we should fight terror where they start, not afrte they already blow us up. I guess he remembers Mowgadishu and how Osama himself was ENCOURAGED that America couldnt take casualties and run at the first hardship. So, Radical Islamists don't like us now we are in the middle east, but they evidently didn't like us much then either. I guess we are damned if we do, damned if we don't. Besides, those Arabs probably don't deserve the freedom of a Democracy(or a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC) anyway.

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Administrations damage......
Posted by: cynndikennemer on Aug 29, 2006 4:25 PM   
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I agree, if an administration can take FBI files of it's detractors, lie to the American people on television, fire innocent people and trump charges of corruption(and trigger an IRS audit, which finds nothing) take comtributions from an overseas interest and conveniently 'PROECT' lands from development which has natural resources which the overseeas interest sells and nearly gives them a monopoly and vetos the oppositions budget, until it becomes a liability, to which he claims full credit for after it's enacted.


YUP, ol Bill Clinton did a lot of damage, if someone woulda looked!!!!!

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unbelievable
Posted by: Gregor on Aug 29, 2006 5:08 PM   
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Yet again, Article II, Section 4 of the American constitution says if you impeach the president, you will also be removing VP and all civil officers from power. Read your constitution. How do you really know Cheney didn't shoot his "friend" in warning. Will we really ever know the true story?

Analyze deeper!

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I Would Never
Posted by: Wizzile on Aug 29, 2006 5:13 PM   
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It said in the article that Bush is said to have been the canadite that you would want to have a beer with. I would rather spit some beer in his face.

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» RE: I Would Never Posted by: longlivecheney
» RE: I Would Never Posted by: 1984NOW!!!
» RE: I Would Never Posted by: gonzoskismet
funny...
Posted by: han on Aug 29, 2006 5:28 PM   
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Funny how Dubya is the reagan-like president with no real view upon politics while at the time GHW Bush was the man in power. I bet GHWB is behind this construction, to make the best for the Bush clan while Cheney does the real work for the elite.

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Cheney the sour half dead drunk.
Posted by: triliberty on Aug 29, 2006 8:30 PM   
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His policies and concerns are like that of a dry drunk. A thick cloud of denial shrouds the mess the dry drunk has caused with his family and life but in Cheney's case how he is destroying America and parts of our world. He is completely unaware of the damage he is doing. I can't nor would I blame this mess on Cheney or Bush. I place the blame squarley on the American publics table. They have allowed this to occur. They have bought the 911 commission's fabricated story of the events prior, during and post 911. They have allowed Cheney/Bush to bring us to war against a sovereign nation that was no threat to America. This country continues to turn its head to the damage that is being done to our consitution and to our way of life. As long as we have our cable Tv, a home and a Maxima who cares? The people of the United States get their news from Hollywood. News? Propaganda is more like it. The news isn't real its a great big drama and they sell the fear campaign. The hate mongering sells. The bigetry sells. Cheney is a simpleton as is Bush but america is filled with guliable simpletons and they know exactly what to sell these people on.


God Bless Us ALL

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Not a New Thing
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Aug 30, 2006 12:04 PM   
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Yeah, Cheney is really the pResident. What's new about that?
Nancy Reagan was pResident for eight years and nobody noticed.

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» RE: Not a New Thing Posted by: DCostello2
President Cheney
Posted by: dougo on Sep 4, 2006 9:50 AM   
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Rove is Bush's brain. Bush is Cheney's puppet. Tragic for the rest of America and the world at large. Cheney was and is a criminal and has implicated Bush in the crimes of war and the destruction of our society. One can only hope for them to be hauled off to The Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity because if anyone ever deserved it these two do. That is, immediately after impeachment.

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