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Where Bush's Arrogance Has Taken Us
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During his gubernatorial days in Texas, George W let slip a one-sentence thought that unintentionally gave us a peek into his political soul. In hindsight, it should've been loudly broadcast all across our land so people could've absorbed it, contemplated its portent?and roundly rejected the guy's bid for the presidency. On May 21, 1999, reacting to some satirical criticism of him, Bush snapped: "There ought to be limits to freedom."
Gosh, so many freedoms to limit, so little time! But in five short years, the BushCheneyRummy regime has made remarkable strides toward dismembering the genius of the Founders, going at our Constitution and Bill of Rights like famished alligators chasing a couple of poodles.
Forget about such niceties as separation of powers, checks and balances (crucial to the practice of democracy), the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and open government-these guys are on an autocratic tear. Whenever they've been challenged (all too rarely), they simply shout "war on terror," "commander-in-chief," "support our troops," "executive privilege," "I'm the decider," or some other slam-the-door political phrase designed to silence any opposition. Indeed, opponents are branded "enemies" who must be demonized, personally attacked, and, if possible, destroyed. Bush's find-the-loopholes lawyers assert that a president has the right to lie (even about going to war), to imprison people indefinitely (without charges, lawyers, hearings, courts, or hope), to torture people, to spy on Americans without court or congressional review, to prosecute reporters who dare to report, to rewrite laws on executive whim?and on and on.
Here, we are pleased to give you a sense of the enormity of what Bush & Company are doing under the cloak of war and executive privilege in a handy-dandy poster format.
The War President
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
-George W., August 2004
- Number of Americans killed in Bush's Iraq war as of August 2006: 2577
- What Bush press flack Tony Snow said the day the total number of American dead reached 2,500: "It's a number"
- Number of Americans killed since Bush declared "Mission Accomplished" on May 1, 2003: 2,438
- Number of Americans wounded (a vague term that includes such horrors as brain damage, limb blasted off, eyes blown out, psyche shattered, etc.) in Bush's war:
- Official count: 18,777
- Independent count: up to 48,000
- Estimated number of Iraqi civilians (men, women, and children) killed in Bush's war since Saddam Hussein was ousted: 38,960
- For Iraqis, the bloodiest month of the war so far: June 2006 (more than 100 civilians killed per day)
- Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmit's advice to Iraqis who see TV reports of innocent civilians being killed by occupying troops: "Change the channel."
- Percent of Iraqis who want American troops to leave: 82
- Stockpiles of Weapons of Mass Destruction found in Iraq since Bush committed Americans to war in 2003 on the basis that Saddam had and was about to use WMDs: 0
- Number of nations in the world: 192
- Number that joined Bush's "Coalition of the Willing" (COW) to invade Iraq: 48
(The list includes such military powers as Angola, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Latvia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau, Romania, Solomon Islands, and Uganda.) - Number of COW nations that actually sent any troops to Iraq: 39
(Of these, 32 sent fewer than 1,000 troops. Many sent no fighting units, deploying only engineers, trainers, humanitarian units, and other noncombat personnel.)
- Number of the 39 COW nations contributing troops that have since withdrawn them: 17
(An additional 7 have announced plans to withdraw all or part of their contingents this year.) - Number of COW troops in Iraq: 150,000
- Number of these that are U.S. troops: 139,000
- Number of White House officials and cabinet members who have any of their immediate family in Bush's war: 0
Follow the Money
We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."
-"Howling Paul" Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary, in testimony to Congress, March 2003
- The official White House claim before the invasion of what the war and occupation would cost U.S. taxpayers: $50 billion
- As of July 2006, the total amount appropriated by Congress for Bush's ongoing war and occupation: $295,634,921,248
- Current Pentagon spending per month in Iraq: $8 billion (or $185,185.19 per minute)
- Assuming all troops return home by 2010, the projected "real costs" for the war: More than $1 trillion
(includes veterans' pay and medical costs, interest on the billions Bush has borrowed to pay for his war, etc.)
Bonus Stat!
- Annual salary of Stuart Baker, hired by the Bushites to be the White House "Director for Lessons Learned": $106,641
- Number of lessons that Bush appears to have learned: 0
The Imperial Presidency
"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."
George W., August, 2002.

Signing Statements
When signing a particular congressional act into law, a few presidents have occasionally issued a "signing statement" to clarify their understanding of what Congress intended. These have not had the force of law and have been used discreetly in the past.
Very quietly, however, Bush has radically increased both the number and reach of these statements, essentially asserting that the president can arbitrarily decide which laws he will obey.
- Number of signing statements issued by Bush as of July 2006: more than 800
(This is more than the combined total of all 42 previous presidents.) - a ban against torture of prisoners by the U.S. military
- a requirement that the FBI periodically report to Congress on how it is using the Patriot Act to search our homes and secretly seize people's private papers
- a ban against storage in military databases of intelligence about Americans that was obtained illegally
- a directive for the executive branch to transmit scientific information to Congress "uncensored and without delay" when requested
- Provision of the Constitution clearly stating that Congress alone has the power "to make all laws": Article 1, Section 8
- Provision of the Constitution clearly stating that the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed": Article 2, Section 3
- Name of the young lawyer in the Reagan administration who wrote a 1986 strategy memo on how to pervert the use of signing statements in order to concentrate more power in the executive branch, as Bush is now doing: Samuel Alito, named to the U.S. Supreme Court by Bush this year
A few examples of congressionally passed laws he has effectively annulled through these extralegal signing statements:
National Security Letters
These are secret executive writs that the infamous 2001 Patriot Act authorizes the FBI to issue to public libraries, internet firms, banks, and others. Upon receiving an NSL, the institution or firm is required to turn over any private records it holds on you, me, or whomever the agents have chosen to search.
Who authorizes the FBI to issue these secret writs? The FBI itself.
- Surely the agents have to get a search warrant, a grand jury subpoena, or a court's approval? No
- But to issue an NSL, an agent must show probable cause that the person being searched has committed some crime, right? No
- Well, don't officials have to inform citizens that their records are being seized so they can defend themselves or protest? No
- Number of NSLs issued by various FBI offices last year alone: 9,254
NSA Eavesdropping
In 2001, Bush issued a secret order for the National Security Agency to begin vacuuming up massive numbers of telephone and internet exchanges by U.S. citizens, illegally seizing this material without any judicial approval or informing Congress, as required by law.
- Number of Americans who have had their phone and internet communications taken by NSA: Just about everyone!
(NSA is tapping into the entire database of long-distance calls and internet messages run through AT&T and probably other companies as well.) - In May of this year, the Justice Department abruptly halted an internal investigation that was trying to uncover the name of the top officials who had authorized NSA's warrantless, unconstitutional program. Who killed this probe, which was requested by Congress? George W himself! (He directed NSA simply to refuse security clearances for the department's legal investigators.)
- What happened to NSA Director Michael Hayden, who was the key architect of Bush's illegal eavesdropping program and the one who would've formally denied clearances to Justice Department investigators? In May, Bush promoted him to head the CIA.
- This past May, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales warned that journalists who report on NSA's spy program could be prosecuted under the antiquated Espionage Act of 1917.
- Times in U.S. history this act has been used to go after the press: 0
- Margin by which the U.S. House in 1917 voted down an amendment to make the Espionage Act apply to journalists: 184-144
Interesting Fact
The New York Times reported this June that Bush was running another spy program. This one was snooping through international banking records, including millions of bank transactions done by innocent Americans. George reacted angrily to the exposure, branding the Times report "disgraceful" and declaring that revelation of his spy program "does great harm to the United States." The White House and its right-wing acolytes promptly launched a "Hate-the-Times" political campaign.
Name the guy who was the first to reveal that such a bank-spying program was in the works: George W. Bush! At a September 2001 press conference, he announced that he'd just signed an executive order to monitor all international bank transactions.
Watch Lists
From the Bushites' ill-fated Total Information Awareness program (meant to monitor all of our computerized transactions) to the robust efforts by Rumsfeld's Pentagon to barge into the domestic surveillance game, America under Bush has fast become "The Watched Society."
- Number of data-mining programs being run secretly on us by the federal government: Nearly 200 separate programs at 52 agencies
- Number of "local activity reports" submitted to the Pentagon in 2004 under the "Threat and Local Observation Notice" program (TALON), which directed military officers throughout our country to keep an eye on suspicious activities by civilians: More than 5,000
(They included such "threats" as peace demonstrators and 10 activists protesting outside Halliburton's headquarters.) - Number of official "watch lists" maintained by the feds: More than a dozen run by 9 different agencies
- Number of Americans on the Transportation Security Administration's "No- Fly" list: That's a secret.
(TSA concedes that it's in the tens of thousands. In 2005 alone, some 30,000 people called TSA to complain that their names were mistakenly on the list.) - Most famous citizen who is on the No-Fly list and has been repeatedly pulled aside by TSA for additional screenings at airports: Sen. Ted Kennedy
- How can you get your name removed from TSA list? That's a secret.
Name That Guy!
In 1966, a young Republican congressman stood against his party's elders to cosponsor the original Freedom of Information Act, valiantly declaring that public records "are public property." He said that FOIA "will make it considerably more difficult for secrecy-minded bureaucrats to decide arbitrarily that the people should be denied access to information on the conduct of government."
Who was that virtuous lawmaker? Donald Rumsfeld!
Only eight years later, Gerald Ford's chief of staff strongly urged him to veto the continuation of FOIA. Who was that dastardly staffer? Donald Rumsfeld!
Who is now one of the chief "secrecy-minded bureaucrats" who routinely violates OIA's principles? Right, him again!
Regime of Secrecy
"Democracies die behind closed doors."
-- Appeals court judge Damon Keith, ruling in a 2002 case that the Bushites cannot hold deportation hearings in secret
- Increase in the number of government documents marked "secret" between 2001 and 2004: 81 percent
- Number of government documents stamped "secret" in 2001: 8.6 million
- Number of government documents stamped "secret" in 2004: 15.6 million (a new record)
- Cost to taxpayers of classifying and securing documents in 2004: $7.2 billion ($460 per document)
- Number of previously declassified documents that the CIA tried to reclassify as "secret" under a 2001 secret agreement with the National Archives, even though many had already been published and some date back to the Korean War: 25,315
- Number of different "official designations" the government now has to classify nonsecret information so it still is kept out of the public's reach: Between 50 and 60
(They include such stamps as CBU: Controlled But Unclassified, SBU: Sensitive But Unclassified, and LOU: Limited Official Use Only.) - The only vice-president in history who has claimed that he, like the president, has the inherent authority to mark "secret" on any document he chooses: "Buckshot" Cheney
- Number of documents Cheney has classified: That's a secret.
(He claims he does not have to report this to anyone -- not even the president.) - Of the 7,045 advisory committee meetings held by the Bushites in 2004, percentage that were completely closed to the public, contrary to the clear intent of the Federal Advisory Committee Act: 64 percent (a new record)
- Number of times from 1953 to1975 (the peak of the Cold War) that presidents invoked the "state secrets" privilege, which grants them unilateral power in extraordinary instances literally to shut down court cases on the grounds they could reveal secrets that the president doesn't want disclosed: 4
- Number of times the same privilege was invoked between 2001 and 2006: At least 24
- Under Clinton, Attorney General Janet Reno issued an official memo instructing agencies to release as much information as possible to the public. In October 2001, AG John Ashcroft issued a memo canceling Reno's approach, expressly instructing agencies to look for reasons to deny the public access to information and pledging to support the denials if the agencies were sued.
- 2005 FOIA requests still awaiting a response at year's end: 31 percent
(a one-third increase over the 2004 backlog) - Median waiting time to get an answer on FOIA request from Bush's justice department: 863 days
Halliburton
"Halliburton is a unique kind of company."
-- Dick Cheney, September 2003
- Total value of contracts given to Halliburton for work in the Bush-Cheney "War on Terror" since 2001: More than $15 billion
- Amount that Halliburton pays to the Third World laborers it imports into Iraq to do the work in its dining facilities, laundries, etc.: $6 per 12-hour day (50 cents an hour)
- Amount that Halliburton bills us taxpayers for each of these workers: $50 a day
- Amount that Halliburton bills U.S. taxpayers for:
- A case of sodas: $45
- Washing a bag of laundry: $100
- Halliburton's campaign contributions in Bush-Cheney election years:
- In 2000: $285,252 (96 percent to Republicans)
- In 2004: $145,500 (89 percent to Republicans)
Plus $365,065 from members of its board of directors (99 percent to Republicans) - Increase in Halliburton's profits since Bush-Cheney took office in 2000: 379 percent
- Halliburton's 2005 profit: $1.1 billion
(highest in the corporation's 86-year history
"Since leaving Halliburton to become George Bush's vice-president, I've severed all of my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind."
Former CEO Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, September 2003
- Annual payments that Cheney has received from Halliburton since he's been vice-president:
- 2001: $205,298
- 2002: $162,392
- 2003: $178,437
- 2004: $194,852
- 2005: $211,465
- Cash bonus paid to Cheney by Halliburton just before he took office: $1.4 million
- Retirement package he was given in 2000 after only 5 years as CEO: $20 million
- Number of times in the past two years that Republicans have killed Sen. Byron Dorgan's amendment to set up a Truman-style committee on war profiteering to investigate Halliburton: 3
- Naughty word Cheney used during a Senate photo session in 2004 to assail Sen. Patrick Leahy, who had criticized Cheney's ongoing ties to Halliburton: "Go #@! percent yourself.
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Posted by: thinkverybig on Aug 23, 2006 12:46 AM
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Bush has done nothing positive since he's been in office and if history seves correctly, his presidency has been a failure like everything else he's done. Do the research, every business venture or anything Bush has been involved in FAILED. This guy is simply and truly BAD LUCK and America along with the world have been cursed to have this idiot STEAL TWO ELECTIONS.
It's time for a change folks and that time is now. Coming soon is "WeMustChange.org"
Stay tuned for more info or email me if you're interested in volunteering for us.
david@thinkverybig.com
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Posted by: Bobsays on Aug 23, 2006 1:49 AM
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Blair is isolated in his party and 80 per cent of Brits disagree with his foreign policy. Blair can be removed easily from office if people in his party do it. Equally, in Canada new PM Stephen Harper (a Bush clone), has a minority government. If the Liberals and the NDP get together, they can bring him down quickly. That would be two top tier allies removed from the 'war on terror'. That would be two guys who are intimately involved in the planning, removed.
Now for Bush. It looks like Americans only have the November elections to make a difference. But you can also lean on the Dems to stand up and make some noise. We need new ideas that will build support to stop this.
Remember: only two months. Once the invasion of Iran starts, and the retaliation attacks start on the homeland, it will be a carte blanche for Bush and his plans. And then we will all be signed up for another three years of this.
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» ......And on top of that he is a REAL HARD CORE PRACTICING ALCOHOLIC!!!!
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Posted by: Lizmv on Aug 23, 2006 4:00 AM
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But it's not Bush and his cronies that I am pissed about. There is always the danger that a man like Bush can be elected. There is certainly no lack of power seeking sociopaths in the world. To quote David Korten " It is not simply that power corrupts. More to the point, it is the corrupt who are the most highly motivated to seek power." (page 36, The Great Turning).
What REALLY pisses me off is that NONE of our elected representatives in either Congress or the Senate have the balls to get rid of this tyrant! We can rant and rage about Bush, but it is a waste of time and energy. It is the members of Congress and Senate we need to go after.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 23, 2006 4:05 AM
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If this isn't all we need to impeach all three of these hideous bastards (Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld) and send them to prison for the rest of their fucking lives then we might as well throw in the towel.
Regardless of how ineffectual your particular democratic candidate may seem to you, the very future of the country depends on your voting for them. AND PLEASE, spare me the barrage of emails about how bot parties are just a tweedle-dee, tweedle dumb, same side of the same tired coin! This is not the time to be foolishly experimenting with a third party. We tried that in 2000 and look where it got us! The only people who benefit by a left-leaning third paty are the GOP. Indeed, Rick Santurum of Pennsylvania has been funding his Green Part opponent - He admitted as much the other night on Hardball with Chris Matthews.
The republican party has:
Cut the throats of the poor and the middleclass,
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 23, 2006 4:21 AM
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If this isn't all we need to impeach all three of these hideous bastards (Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld) and send them to prison for the rest of their fucking lives then we might as well throw in the towel.
Regardless of how ineffectual your particular democratic candidate may seem to you, the very future of the country depends on your voting for them. AND PLEASE, spare me the barrage of emails about how bot parties are just a tweedle-dee, tweedle dumb, same side of the same tired coin! This is not the time to be foolishly experimenting with a third party. We tried that in 2000 and look where it got us! The only people who benefit by a left-leaning third paty are the GOP. Indeed, Rick Santurum of Pennsylvania has been funding his Green Part opponent - He admitted as much the other night on Hardball with Chris Matthews.
George W. Bus and the republican party have:
Cut the throats of the poor and the middleclass. They have looted our national treasure. They have abandoned their constituancy in favor of a multi-national corprate behemoth and an out-of-control military industrial complex. They have created a geo-politcal catastrophe in the middle east that will take a century to remedy. They have shoveled a generation of American children into an untenable slaughterhouse in Iraq. They have engendered an economic nightmare so immense that generations yet unborn will still be bearing its burden. They have sold our nation's soul to the highest corporate bidder. They have made a mockery of the First Ammendment. They have squandered a five trillion dollar surplus on a tax cut for a class of people who didn't need it. They have gutted vital social programs that aid the poor and the elderly that have been in place for over seventy years. They have turned federal emergancy management into a sick joke. They have knocked the teeth out of laws meant to protect working men and women. They have plundered the environment. They have depleted our educational system. They have hijacked this nation's political dialogue. They have ruined our international reputation. They have handed our domestic agenda over to religious fanatics. They have denied voting rights to people of color in three states. They have stolen two national elections. They have pissed on our constitution. They have sent our Bill of Rights through the meat grinder....
They must never, ever be allowed to govern our country again.
The grand old party is over.
Pray for peace.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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Posted by: bullwhip7 on Aug 23, 2006 4:32 AM
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I don't don't criticize, monitor or examine. But I do mean keep it civil, professional and cut the BULLCRAP!!!
Illegal war??!!
Go look at the record 98% of your so-called progressive leaders went for it. It's only now that things are tough that they are back tracking - yep don't back a loser seems to be the day's call.
But did you hear what Hillary's new policy is shaping up to be, backed by Dean and Kerry? Universal service - i.e. the draft. Gee, I wonder why they want a lot more soldiers for??
Could it be that if they get elected, they will immediately change their tune and say that "actually we need to stay the course..." Bill Clinton did just that on the economy. He got elected on change, then 2 weeks after the election said - "no, I've decided to stay the course on the economy".
So, yeah.
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» fascism - a bush family value
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» 1957 Webster's unabridged definition - still accurate
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Posted by: greentime on Aug 23, 2006 5:46 AM
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He is the symbol of all that is wrong with our nation.
He has made America irrelevant.
He didn't do it alone.
He and his father's pals have stolen more, fouled the earth more and robbed the people of this nation and nations around the world of more than we can ever imagine.
He has placed this fragile earth, home to all life, in such serious jeopardy that the harm he unleashed may be irreversible. He has allowed the worst corporate offenders to unleash poisons and genectic organisms that we will spend thousands of years eradicating just to attempt to rebalance our ecosystems.
He has advanced christian radicalism and corporate greed at the very time when tolerance and humility are most called for. We have gone from a "beacon of hope" to the world's worst psychotic bullying citizen. He has divided this country to the point of unrest.
He has empowered the worst bigots with their cowardly beliefs of white racism to unleash their sociopathic behaviors through the very institutions that were created to serve the people. From FEMA to education, from the military to fiscal management, he has botched the job and put the people of this nation and the world in harms way.
There is no reason, not one, to allow him to stay in the office he stole from the people of this nation.
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You are doing great work, but until you can call a spade a spade, you too are still "beating around the Bush".
What you are detailing for us is clearly a fascist corpocracy, but until writers like you are willing to bread through the F-word barrier, Americans continue to be short-changed by even their most progressive pundits and columnists.
Instead we're given words derived from communism(Pravda), monarchy(King George) or generalized conspiracy(cabal), each pundit trying to mark out his OWN PARTICULAR DEFINITION, thus creating a situation analogous to the way the Democratic Party castrates itself...
Divide and be conquered.
Once voting is run by Republican corporations, we are facing corporate fascism. Once fundimentalist churches are recieving money from the governmnet to recruit Republican voters and act as propaganda headquarters, we are dealing with the theocratic wing of the same corporate fascism.
Once the opposition party is utterly dependent on the same foundations, corporations and political groups as the Republicans to maintain their place at the trough, we are dealing with corporate fascism.
Once we have a Pentagon revolving-door, multi-billion dollar military production line run by the very same corporations, we have a military industrial complex that is a central arm of corporate fascism.
Wake up, Jim. Many of our fathers and grandfathers died fighting to see that this same fascism couldn't destroy our country.
If you and your columnist associates will simply identify the problem, and name it and publicize it, the American voter can begin to understand the grave situation he faces, and start the long arduous process of turning America back into the great democracy our Forefathers intended it to be.
You're doing a great job, Jim, but you've got to break through the "F-word" if you really want to stop "beating around the Bush".
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» hey, don't blame me - i TRIED voting for the opposition!
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Posted by: Proud Liberal on Aug 23, 2006 7:37 AM
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If we manage to elect a Democratic House in November (and all Democrats support the move...how likely is that?), I suppose it might be possible to impeach Bush. If we also manage to elect a Democratic Senate in November it might then also be possible that the Senate would vote to convict him and remove him from office.
Then what? A President Cheney?
Next, imagine the above scenario repeated to impeach and convict and remove Cheney. Presuming Nancy Pelosi would then be Speaker of the House (and next in the line of succession), she then would become Prez.
Even less likely, you say?
Exactly!
By the time any of the above would happen the Bush/Cheney term would be over anyway. We need to preach less to each other (I include myself) and get out there and elect Democrats to office in November. We've got 2 1/2 months to do it, and then two years in which a Democratic Congress might (hopefully) put the reigns to administration abuses. Spending that time impeaching Bush would assure that nothing else would get done during that time.
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The truth and the people be damned; the end justifies the means in our brave new world!
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IF they{BUSHCO} are not prosecuted to the full extent of the law americans will suffer around the world and be held accountable for their leaders crimes. Truth will prevail ,NO MATTER WHAT LAWS ARE CHANGED by these criminals.
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they have us right where they want us.
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Aug 23, 2006 10:06 AM
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Bush is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.
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» Aaah, a fear monger. You poor thing. You would trade safety for liberty. What a shame!
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No amount of hateful vicous attacks on George Bush can change history, but it is certainly changing the future. People like this malcontent whose oped I am responding to are a boon for the Islamonazis. These people give Al Jazeera and the Islamonazis all the free advertising they need. You are one of Al Quedas most effective recruitment tools
So go ahead and warp facts and bend words and meaning. At least we know that you as well as the Islamofascists, are the enemy of freedom
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» history began in '79
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You rational thinking americans needs to sort this mess out. Unlike in Hitler's Germany, you can speak out! Bush hasn't built enough camps for you guys yet, but please hurry!
Your country is scaring the shit out of the rest of us damnit!
*awaiting the CIA to take me to some secret prison* Fuck'em.
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• Al Qaeda, the Taliban, bin Laden, and Hussein were all creations of the CIA. That's not conspiracy theory, that's history.
• "They" don't hate us for our "freedom," they hate us for being warmongering imperialist pirates.
If America would just fucking go home and mind our own business, stop trying to play king-of-the-world, stop trying to force our so-called culture on everyone else on the planet, stop screwing over other countries for our own economic gain, and stop supporting the violent intolerant right-wing theocracy in charge of Israel- the Muslim theocrats would return to their war on bare midriffs. With no credible enemy, they would become irrelevant and eventually rejected by the people of their countries.
Why don't they hate Canada?
• Terrorism kills a trivial number of Americans compared to, say, fatal bee stings and lightning strikes, and you are thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash. They're not fighting a war on terror out of fear, they're creating a fear of terror out of the need for war.
• Bush's America is not an America worth fighting for. As aggressors and war criminals, we're now a legitimate military target. I will not die for a flag whose meaning is now somewhere between the stars-and-bars and the swastika in the eyes of the world. If we are to consider what Israel just did to the people of Lebanon legitimate, then how would your "Islamofascists" killing American people in retaliation for the actions of the Neocons be any different?
• We have our own crazy religious fanatics in this country. A Christian theocracy can be just as bad as a Muslim theocracy. They both want Armageddon, they both want genocide of the infidels. The fascists in DC would never have been able to go on this latest crusade without the support of the flag-waving Jesus freaks. I say fight them over here so we don't have to fight them over there.
• You've obviously bought the shit they've shoveled, you've become exactly what they tried to turn you into for their own selfish aims. You are the kind of Americans the world hates, and when the revolution comes, you will be the second against the wall.
• And the horse you rode in on.
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It doesn't exist. Just like the WMDs. And lots of other fictions being visited upon the populace by neocons in CYA mode.
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Posted by: Craig C on Aug 23, 2006 2:49 PM
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You may not care about what is really right or wrong in the world, but the United States and the Republican Party definitely do.
http//:blogresponder.blogspot.com
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Posted by: vangogh69 on Aug 23, 2006 2:51 PM
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To start, we have to stop this foolishness about elections and call a spade a spade. We all know the only value either party believes in is $$$$$ and power, fuck the people. We must not dignify their contempt any longer by participating in their humiliation of us. Secondly, we have to take the info about both parties criminality to the streets to inform people (because you'd be surprised just how ignorant Americans really are). We have to get people to connect the "war on terror" to the price of oil, to American consumption of resources, to the American economy, to the capitalist system, and so on. (And we must MOST DEFINATELY get people to brand Israel as an outlaw state and stop funding thier ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.) This is to start...
The situation isn't hopeless for salvation comes from within. We must all work together, be willing to give up our comforts, and work towards change. A better world is possible.
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When I was at the Democratic booth at the County Fair here, we were asking people to write down on a large pad - what their concerns were.
A fellow came to the booth (a union carpenter) and said that he'd just as soon tell us what he thinks. He said he was sick and tired of hearing about 911 and the threat of terrorism. He said he doesn't even listen to the news anymore because he is convinced of hearing more lies.
He went on for a bit - It occurred to me that this fellow is definitely not alone in this country and that if we had the leadership in this country to take these guys head on by asking the American people to stand up and truly be counted to answer these policies - To say - It is tragedy what the Neo-con Bush, Cheney and company have done to our credibility and honor throughout the world we would find a ready audience. It is a disgrace to find that in 6 short years this administration has used the phantom of 911 to justify a steady barrage on human and civil rights not only in the pursuit of an illegally conjured war but against American citizens as well – to nearly bankrupt this country of it’s standing in the world diplomatically, economically, and weaken our military capabilities as well.
It makes no sense for us to berate and attempt to shout down this bankrupt administration that seeks to obfuscate and change reality to fit their won sordid agenda. It is time to empower YOU, The American citizen to stand up and tell these outlaws what kind of America you want to be a part of. Americans are not a weak and frightened people hiding under beds waiting for an imaginary terrorist to attack.... We (the citizens) engaged in this grand experiment of Democracy are the leaders that carry the light in the world - The light that allows others, less fortunate, less able to fight, to see and follow our example. It is not the light of a cannon fire blowing into the homes of Iraqis and Lebanese to force change or suffer the wrath of an Empire.
We cannot believe that the American wants to be seen as the strongest, most powerful bully in this world – but rather the compassionate, nurturing, helpful and confident peacemaker.
Which will it be - America?
I am not a speech writer - but we have to come up with bold statements and then be ready for the onslaught of these control freak mucks - and blast them back with the confidence that we are right.
Forget about pandering to the patriotic cause. Dismiss it! For anyone to impugn another’s patriotism because he or she does not believe in killing 1000 to save one, is indefensible! It should not be tolerated. Patriotism is preserving the rapidly eroding values and commitments to freedom we once had. Patriotism is stopping this administration from destroying what they have already horribly injured. It is regaining our honor, integrity and hope we provided for the world and our own citizens... Let's take it back.
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Former CEO Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, September 2003
Annual payments that Cheney has received from Halliburton since he's been vice-president:
2001: $205,298
2002: $162,392
2003: $178,437
2004: $194,852
2005: $211,465
Cash bonus paid to Cheney by Halliburton just before he took office: $1.4 million
Retirement package he was given in 2000 after only 5 years as CEO: $20 million
Too bad this article doesn't mention that this is deferred compensation that is set in stone and is independent of the company’s performance. (I might give it more credence if it did.)
A factcheck.org article took on the so-called "ties" Cheney still has to the company:
http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html
This is an analysis of a campaign ad from 2004.
On the subject of his deferred compensation: "The $398,548 Halliburton has paid to Cheney while in office is all deferred compensation, a common practice that high-salaried executives use to reduce their tax bills by spreading income over several years. In Cheney's case, he signed a Halliburton form in December of 1998 choosing to have 50% of his salary for the next year, and 90% of any bonus money for that year, spread out over five years. (As it turned out, there was no bonus for 1999.) We asked Cheney's personal attorney to document the deferral agreement as well, and he supplied us with a copy of the form , posted here publicly for the first time.
Legally, Halliburton can't increase or reduce the amount of the deferred compensation no matter what Cheney does as vice president. So Cheney's deferred payments from Halliburton wouldn't increase no matter how much money the company makes, or how many government contracts it receives.
On the other hand, there is a possibility that if the company went bankrupt it would be unable to pay. That raises the theoretical possibility of a conflict of interest -- if the public interest somehow demanded that Cheney take action that would hurt Halliburton it could conceivably end up costing him money personally. So to insulate himself from that possible conflict, Cheney purchased an insurance policy (which cost him$14,903) that promises to pay him all the deferred compensation that Halliburton owes him even if the company goes bust and refuses to pay. The policy does contain escape clauses allowing the insurance company to refuse payment in the unlikely events that Cheney files a claim resulting "directly or indirectly" from a change in law or regulation, or from a "prepackaged" bankruptcy in which creditors agree on terms prior to filing. But otherwise it ensures Cheney will get what Halliburton owes him should it go under.
On his stock options: "That still would leave the possibility that Cheney could profit from his Halliburton stock options if the company's stock rises in value. However, Cheney and his wife Lynne have assigned any future profits from their stock options in Halliburton and several other companies to charity. And we're not just taking the Cheney's word for this -- we asked for a copy of the legal agreement they signed, which we post here publicly for the first time.
The "Gift Trust Agreement" the Cheney's signed two days before he took office turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (Cheney's home state), ....(see link for rest)
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Posted by: NewsView on Aug 23, 2006 8:59 PM
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Even if we are to assume that the rise of secrecy and the demise of public access and government accountability is a necessary price to pay during wartime, one can only hope and pray that we do not continue to become entangled in military conflicts abroad. If the loss of our national identity, personal freedoms and customary checks-and-balances are the price we must pay for “security”, so too should we recognize that the more intrusive sacrifices we make the more likely we are to fall upon our own sword — and in so doing handing the enemies of democracy and liberty a victory wherein the only guilty party is ourselves..
Eleanor Roosevelt once said, “There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.” Fear, by its very definition, is reactionary and shortsighted. Fear leads to haste. Haste leads to unquestioning loyalty, which is often defended as one's "patriotic duty". Poor leadership, in turn, leads to the erosion of our Constitution. The erosion of our Constitution leads to legislation from the bench. The weakening of our justice system leads to the loss of civil rights. Total cost? The American Dream. Value? Priceless.
Perhaps that's why Benjamin Franklin wisely observed, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Any psychologist will tell you that security is an illusion. A sense of security is a coping mechanism that prevents most people from becoming paralyzed by fear on a day-to-day basis. It keeps us from contemplating the odds of slipping on a patch of ice, drowning in a swift storm current, being pinned in by wildfire, ripped from our homes by a hurricane or tornado, slipping in the shower, attacked by roaming dogs, hospitalized with severe food poisoning, assault by a mugger, struck down by illness or long-term disability — or, heaven forbid — wiped out by a dirty bomb explosion. Death happens. The when, where and how is not up to us. What IS within our legitimate concern and control is whether or not we have a Constitution or a democratic Republic when the secrecy-pushers are through with the courts, Congress and the Constitution itself. If we are going to fear for the future, fear what harm fear itself can breed.
Shakespeare had it right when he wrote: “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves.”
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It would help to calm souls like mine which seem to long for works cited pages.
Maybe just links within the article. That would've been nice.
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But has the US done _any_ good AT ALL in any of the wars it ever declared on other countries?
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Posted by: NewsView on Aug 24, 2006 1:31 AM
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Sadly, I have little confidence in the electoral process now that it has gone digital. Whether we're talking George W. Bush or someone else who equally offends American tradition and sensibility at some point in the future, how do we oust them on Election Day when the average American can't even get a paper audit? Should we start a campaign to vote absentee only?
Cheaters who want to cheat will find a way to do it, regardless. Unfortunately, technology leaves more opportunities to "cover one's tracks" without the general public catching on. By contrast, common sense dictates that the easiest type of vote to validate is the lowest tech type — the type that is so straightforward that a child can recognize tampering. The worst confusion you are going to get with a paper ballot, for example, is a "hanging chad." By contrast, check out the work of two Harvard PhDs that founded www.blackboxvoting.org, and also wrote a related book "Spychips: How Corporations and Government Plan to Track Your Every Move with RFID" (www.spychips.com). These sites blow wide open the idea that technology, in general, is secure. Whether the threat is viral — the same sort that infects your PC with Spyware — or personal, say a disgruntled e-voting employee who has been offered a handsome bribe for reprogramming all "No" votes for Mr. Smith to become "Yes" votes, the opportunities for foul play and mechanical breakdown are enormous. Modern day computer technology has exceeded or wisdom to deal with it appropriately. We have, in essence, opened Pandora's Box. Now that the lid is off, you can be sure that a 13-year-old hacker won't be the only one tempted to exploit it.
Technology-wise, we are living in the sociological equivalent of the Wild West. Problem? There aren't enough technologically literate sheriffs to patrol the digital landscape. And much like the Old West, “digital homesteaders” with the technological literacy to stop lawlessness are few and far between. Thus, as long as bona fide law enforcement and government agencies fall short of the necessary numbers to reign in technology gone wild, the responsibility for law, order and accountability lies in OUR HANDS — those that are technologically proficient and/or employed in such areas, that is. Thus, I would urge the hired hands working this New Frontier not to hack for malicious purposes, but to carefully scan their slice of the digital horizon for signs that those in power — in particular companies that supply technology for e-voting and other “public trust” state, federal and local uses are held in check. In this way, in the event that a real conspiracy is hatched, someone will be there to toll the warning bell or leak the necessary documentation to the press.
More than just informed voters, this country needs the help of ordinary Americans who realize that their eyes and ears account for a piece of the puzzle that forms the Big Picture. Already, some of the high-ranking employees of e-voting companies have been "outed" by the media for having been convicted of various felonies that should preclude such employment. Nevertheless, some e-voting spokespeople have gone on record promising to "deliver the election" to a local or national candidate. As yourself: Would anyone in their right mind make that claim if they were NOT rigging the vote? (Hiding in plain sight?) To prevent such blatant disregard for the Public Trust, this post is a call to all poll workers and techs, particularly those that hold jobs in critical "public access": Keep your eyes peeled and document everything no matter how insignificant it may seem at the time. You never know when you might be called upon to be part of the solution.
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For people who are regular media “consumers” — the minority of Americans who are likely to post or read from a site like this — this information on President George W. Bush and VP Cheney may come as no great surprise. But keep in mind that one of the reasons we have a corrupt political landscape is because we have a bankrupt civic landscape. No one who isn’t already politically receptive to this sort of subject matter will accept the “difficult truth.” For the same reason, I predict that no punitive action will be taken against the Bush presidency now or ever. We are no longer living in the Watergate era or even the Bill Clinton era. Americans are tired of investigations and apathetic towards questions of character, lawfulness and morality.
The typical response you’ll get from people who dislike what they read or hear is that the author of the offending news or commentary item is a part of the “vast media conspiracy”. This excuses your average citizen from paying serious attention to the issues that are deserving of public scrutiny. Never mind that this "conspiracy" is simultaneously a left-wing media conspiracy and a right-wing media conspiracy. Like the lead character on Discovery Channel’s “Myth Busters” — who oftentimes wears a shirt that reads, “I reject your reality and substitute my own”, most Americans of opposing political inclination or political apathy simply WON'T accept the facts — and to whatever extent this colors their thinking they will reject these facts in favor of their own desired perceptions. For the same reason, few Americans are going to do their own homework to verify whether someone like Jim Hightower has reported his findings honestly. It's far easier to simply slap a label of “political bias” on any reality that contradicts their notions and go about their business — including their next trip into a voting booth — completely unchanged no matter how blatant or overt the crimes of character or political crisis becomes.
Americans are seeing the results of poor political leadership because too many voters — if they bother to vote at all — have become so politically shallow, lazy and partisan that we do not respond to any truth that does not fall within partisan lines or jive with the impression we get from a few televised debates. So numb are most people to the truth that they would even go so far as to deny calls for investigation in order to continue towing the party line unimpeded by doubt or dissent. The only thing that might be a little tougher to deny would be the sort of citations and references you find in a book or scholarly journal. Newspaper and Website quotations are no longer enough — writers need to pepper their news items and commentary with multiple footnotes to start making inroads with an increasingly distrustful public. Likewise, Jim Hightower needs references, citations and as many links to credible news sources as possible — not to preach to the choir but to reach the unconvinced who are too lazy, frightened or partisan to search out the facts for themselves.
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Posted by: Verdillac on Aug 24, 2006 8:26 AM
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I almost expect Bush to pull off his mask revealing Emperor Palpatine beneath declaring total Executive Power over the Universe. Oh, Yoda, with your lightsaber, Need You We Do! MmmMM?
Things could get really bad really fast after November. We may seriously have to consider living up to the Declaration of Independence and rise up again.
Of course if one were to ask the NRA, they will say "there's nothing wrong you tree-hugging peaceniks!" Not one of them has sqeaked about the threats made and carried out against the OTHER amendments! It might be funny to watch their reaction when their membership data base is used to round them up first...the ones with traceable addresses, who belong to a firearms club..I know that would be my first move, if I were a power-hungry fascist.
Look out NRA, Bush will get you too! He probably ALREADY knows where you live and how many weapons you have. Think about that!
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Date on which invading Iraq was first discussed at a George W. Bush Cabinet meeting: January 30, 2001, day 10 of his first term.
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Posted by: show me the truth on Aug 24, 2006 10:40 AM
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It was all about spreading America's influence in the world which of course has suffered severve damage and they have lost all credibility in the world. Why should there be democracy in Iraq and not in Saudi Arabia? Hypocracy to say the least.
Bush is oil and the saudies are oil....their is no democracy in America anyway...it is just a facade and the millions are ruled by lobbyists and the rich for the benefit of the rich ... they don't care how mant American boys get killed
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By Ivan G. Goldman
--Mama, I made a big mess.
--That’s ok, dear. Just get the servants to clean it up.
--No, mama, I tried that.
--That’s what I tell your father. You can’t get decent help anymore. What kind of mess are we talking about, anyway? Ketchup, a coke bust? What?
--Iraq, mama. The one with the ‘q’ at the end.
--Oh, that. Listen, Iraq’s not nearly as terrible as everybody says. Watch Fox, dear, like I told you.
--I do, mama.
--Iraq’s a lot like Katrina.
--That’s what everybody says.
--Those Iraqis are just like all those colored people they showed complaining about everything down there. Listen, those Arabs live much better than they did before we bombed the crap out of them. Money just pours into the place. Cheney wets his beak, everything’s coming up roses.
--But they say a lot of American troops got killed and burned and everything.
--Really. Do you know any of them?
--No.
--Me neither. They’d be out on the street if we hadn’t given them a paycheck.
--But mama, they’re dead and missing arms and legs and stuff.
--Yeah? Well listen, kid, grow some backbone. Those oil fields we grabbed over there will be worth a mint someday. So forget about it. Clear some brush or something. Cheney will watch the store. From his bunker, I mean.
--Okay, mama. But can’t you stop everybody from making fun of me?
--You little squirt. Stop whining. I told your father a thousand times we shoulda let Jeb inherit the presidency. That’s what the Godfather did. But your father? He knew better. Passed up Michael and gave the job to Fredo.
--Huh?
--Ride your SUV around the ranch. And be sure to practice saying ‘Bring it on’ in the mirror. It’ll make you feel masculine. Too bad it won’t make you smart.
--Huh?
[From http://ivangoldman.blogspot.com/]
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EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE IMPLIED THE MEANING OF THE OLD MILITARY ADAGE OF " B-O-H-I-C-A", NO ONE IS LISTENING...SO TRY AGAIN, AGAIN, AND AGAIN...
AND YOU ARE OFFERING THE PROVERBIAL FIX OF THE "VASELINE" BEFORE THE RAPE, YOU MAY ADVISE THE USE OF THE NEW PRODUCTS LIKE WD-40, LIQUID WRENCH, ETC, TO EASE THE INSERTION EVENT...AS MARK TWAIN ONCE REMARKED :
"IT CAN PROBABLY BE SHOWN BY FACTS AND FIGURES THAT THERE IS NO DISTINCTLY NATIVE AMERICAN CRIMINAL CLASS EXCEPT CONGRESS."
AND, SOME ADDITIONAL EXCERPTS THAT AID INDENTIFYING THE UNSCRUPULOUS BUSH 43 :
See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda. GEORGE W. BUSH
Regrettably, empirical studies reveal, however, that authoritarians are frequently enemies of freedom, antidemocratic, antiequality, highly prejudiced, mean-spirited, power hungry, Machiavellian, and amoral. They are also often conservatives without conscience who are capable of plunging this nation into disasters the likes of which we have never known. JOHN DEAN 7/22/06
“By the time Richard Milhous Nixon goes on trial in the Senate, the only real reason for trying him will be to understand how he ever became president of the United States at all ... and the real defendant, at that point, will be the American Political System. “ -- Hunter S. Thompson, 1973.(WHAT ABOUT BUSH 43???)
ALSO, GEORGE BERNARD SHAW CLEARLY DESCRIBES
BUSH 43 MENTALITY:
He knows nothing and thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career. -
He who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways, will receive anything from the Lord. Let the lowly brother boast in his exaltation, and the rich in his humiliation, because like the flower of the grass he will pass away. James 1: 1-15
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We would be, but only foolish to believe all this;
Arabian countries are sitting on the pits containing world’s crucial fuel energy resources.
The world’s lone super power feels this right full to secure these crucial resources for her best use and to avail an effective Hegemony in this part of the world.
For last some decades, under the coercive western policies in Middle East, the natives and local dictator rulers of these Countries have been fully emasculated and successfully castrated. Whole Middle East is supposed to be playing the only tunes of ---USA.
After tying up almost all the countries in Middle East into western bondage, in some farm or other,-- Iran is found to be the only one odd last obstacle, offering lots of resistances. Iran is surrounded by western strongholds like in Iraq and Afghanistan. These are in full western occupation, ready serving as van guards for any planned next onslaught. But Iran has greater depth and can offer multiple layers of defences and many more other fortifications for the west to converge on to...
The track record of recent US invasion of Iraq shows that US lead forces did not advance into Iraq till chief UN weapon inspector, Dr Hans Blix categorically made it clear that there were no WMDs and there was a little resistance of scud medium range missile in Iraq.
Western forces and its agents are the warrior and conqueror of no-resistance, depleted lands --but they easily get bodged down, like mighty Israeli army in the face of determination and resilience shown by, even a very weak and negligible resistance of Hezbollah in south Lebanon… or Taliban vehemently resisting occupation by US/NATO forces in Afghanistan.
On going media hype of terrorism is another weapon being implied very successfully at home front, to keep the public fear full and scared all the time. This keeps the graph of public opinion up in favour of declared ‘war on terror’. On going exercise of ‘Air planes terror plot’ is also proving to be a fruitful ‘opinion harvester’ and may be kept alive and ripe as a ‘universal tool’ for a long period of time to come.
Al-Qaeda friends are usually, a good helping hand in the up keep of this hype. They can any time come up with their simple video rhetoric to rescue the whole affair. To mark and reaffirm this hype, their next video release may be expected right before the 9/11 anniversary event. Followed by another on dot release by Al,jazeera before midterm election of US senate/ house in November,2006.
Israel Army retreat in the face of Hezbollah resilience in south Lebanon has brought lot of embarrassment for the US. Out of desperation, US attack on Iran, with all her might under any pretext, may be eminent.
In the wake of Hezbollah guerrilla tactic demonstrated in Lebanon, Iran may put up greater resilience and US lead forces are likely to have tough time in the killing fields set up by Iran.
Anyhow, in view of current arrival of forces, to beef up the UNIFIL in Lebanon, and in the light of intriguing statements emerging That Israel ‘may have to go it alone.’"; High altitude air strikes and long range cruise missile attack, may be the preferred Option, to root out the Iran’s nuclear capabilities.
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Bush has done nothing positive since he's been in office and if history seves correctly, his presidency has been a failure like everything else he's done. Do the research, every business venture or anything Bush has been involved in FAILED. This guy is simply and truly BAD LUCK and America along with the world have been cursed to have this idiot STEAL TWO ELECTIONS.
It's time for a change folks and that time is now. Coming soon is "WeMustChange.org"
Stay tuned for more info or email me if you're interested in volunteering for us.
david@thinkverybig.com
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Blair is isolated in his party and 80 per cent of Brits disagree with his foreign policy. Blair can be removed easily from office if people in his party do it. Equally, in Canada new PM Stephen Harper (a Bush clone), has a minority government. If the Liberals and the NDP get together, they can bring him down quickly. That would be two top tier allies removed from the 'war on terror'. That would be two guys who are intimately involved in the planning, removed.
Now for Bush. It looks like Americans only have the November elections to make a difference. But you can also lean on the Dems to stand up and make some noise. We need new ideas that will build support to stop this.
Remember: only two months. Once the invasion of Iran starts, and the retaliation attacks start on the homeland, it will be a carte blanche for Bush and his plans. And then we will all be signed up for another three years of this.
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» ......And on top of that he is a REAL HARD CORE PRACTICING ALCOHOLIC!!!!
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» Oh, if I was unclear, let me fix that...... I don't like your buddy Bush or Cheney either.
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Posted by: Lizmv on Aug 23, 2006 4:00 AM
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But it's not Bush and his cronies that I am pissed about. There is always the danger that a man like Bush can be elected. There is certainly no lack of power seeking sociopaths in the world. To quote David Korten " It is not simply that power corrupts. More to the point, it is the corrupt who are the most highly motivated to seek power." (page 36, The Great Turning).
What REALLY pisses me off is that NONE of our elected representatives in either Congress or the Senate have the balls to get rid of this tyrant! We can rant and rage about Bush, but it is a waste of time and energy. It is the members of Congress and Senate we need to go after.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 23, 2006 4:05 AM
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If this isn't all we need to impeach all three of these hideous bastards (Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld) and send them to prison for the rest of their fucking lives then we might as well throw in the towel.
Regardless of how ineffectual your particular democratic candidate may seem to you, the very future of the country depends on your voting for them. AND PLEASE, spare me the barrage of emails about how bot parties are just a tweedle-dee, tweedle dumb, same side of the same tired coin! This is not the time to be foolishly experimenting with a third party. We tried that in 2000 and look where it got us! The only people who benefit by a left-leaning third paty are the GOP. Indeed, Rick Santurum of Pennsylvania has been funding his Green Part opponent - He admitted as much the other night on Hardball with Chris Matthews.
The republican party has:
Cut the throats of the poor and the middleclass,
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 23, 2006 4:21 AM
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If this isn't all we need to impeach all three of these hideous bastards (Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld) and send them to prison for the rest of their fucking lives then we might as well throw in the towel.
Regardless of how ineffectual your particular democratic candidate may seem to you, the very future of the country depends on your voting for them. AND PLEASE, spare me the barrage of emails about how bot parties are just a tweedle-dee, tweedle dumb, same side of the same tired coin! This is not the time to be foolishly experimenting with a third party. We tried that in 2000 and look where it got us! The only people who benefit by a left-leaning third paty are the GOP. Indeed, Rick Santurum of Pennsylvania has been funding his Green Part opponent - He admitted as much the other night on Hardball with Chris Matthews.
George W. Bus and the republican party have:
Cut the throats of the poor and the middleclass. They have looted our national treasure. They have abandoned their constituancy in favor of a multi-national corprate behemoth and an out-of-control military industrial complex. They have created a geo-politcal catastrophe in the middle east that will take a century to remedy. They have shoveled a generation of American children into an untenable slaughterhouse in Iraq. They have engendered an economic nightmare so immense that generations yet unborn will still be bearing its burden. They have sold our nation's soul to the highest corporate bidder. They have made a mockery of the First Ammendment. They have squandered a five trillion dollar surplus on a tax cut for a class of people who didn't need it. They have gutted vital social programs that aid the poor and the elderly that have been in place for over seventy years. They have turned federal emergancy management into a sick joke. They have knocked the teeth out of laws meant to protect working men and women. They have plundered the environment. They have depleted our educational system. They have hijacked this nation's political dialogue. They have ruined our international reputation. They have handed our domestic agenda over to religious fanatics. They have denied voting rights to people of color in three states. They have stolen two national elections. They have pissed on our constitution. They have sent our Bill of Rights through the meat grinder....
They must never, ever be allowed to govern our country again.
The grand old party is over.
Pray for peace.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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» one more reason the separate church and state...
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Posted by: bullwhip7 on Aug 23, 2006 4:32 AM
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I don't don't criticize, monitor or examine. But I do mean keep it civil, professional and cut the BULLCRAP!!!
Illegal war??!!
Go look at the record 98% of your so-called progressive leaders went for it. It's only now that things are tough that they are back tracking - yep don't back a loser seems to be the day's call.
But did you hear what Hillary's new policy is shaping up to be, backed by Dean and Kerry? Universal service - i.e. the draft. Gee, I wonder why they want a lot more soldiers for??
Could it be that if they get elected, they will immediately change their tune and say that "actually we need to stay the course..." Bill Clinton did just that on the economy. He got elected on change, then 2 weeks after the election said - "no, I've decided to stay the course on the economy".
So, yeah.
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» fascism - a bush family value
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Posted by: greentime on Aug 23, 2006 5:46 AM
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He is the symbol of all that is wrong with our nation.
He has made America irrelevant.
He didn't do it alone.
He and his father's pals have stolen more, fouled the earth more and robbed the people of this nation and nations around the world of more than we can ever imagine.
He has placed this fragile earth, home to all life, in such serious jeopardy that the harm he unleashed may be irreversible. He has allowed the worst corporate offenders to unleash poisons and genectic organisms that we will spend thousands of years eradicating just to attempt to rebalance our ecosystems.
He has advanced christian radicalism and corporate greed at the very time when tolerance and humility are most called for. We have gone from a "beacon of hope" to the world's worst psychotic bullying citizen. He has divided this country to the point of unrest.
He has empowered the worst bigots with their cowardly beliefs of white racism to unleash their sociopathic behaviors through the very institutions that were created to serve the people. From FEMA to education, from the military to fiscal management, he has botched the job and put the people of this nation and the world in harms way.
There is no reason, not one, to allow him to stay in the office he stole from the people of this nation.
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You are doing great work, but until you can call a spade a spade, you too are still "beating around the Bush".
What you are detailing for us is clearly a fascist corpocracy, but until writers like you are willing to bread through the F-word barrier, Americans continue to be short-changed by even their most progressive pundits and columnists.
Instead we're given words derived from communism(Pravda), monarchy(King George) or generalized conspiracy(cabal), each pundit trying to mark out his OWN PARTICULAR DEFINITION, thus creating a situation analogous to the way the Democratic Party castrates itself...
Divide and be conquered.
Once voting is run by Republican corporations, we are facing corporate fascism. Once fundimentalist churches are recieving money from the governmnet to recruit Republican voters and act as propaganda headquarters, we are dealing with the theocratic wing of the same corporate fascism.
Once the opposition party is utterly dependent on the same foundations, corporations and political groups as the Republicans to maintain their place at the trough, we are dealing with corporate fascism.
Once we have a Pentagon revolving-door, multi-billion dollar military production line run by the very same corporations, we have a military industrial complex that is a central arm of corporate fascism.
Wake up, Jim. Many of our fathers and grandfathers died fighting to see that this same fascism couldn't destroy our country.
If you and your columnist associates will simply identify the problem, and name it and publicize it, the American voter can begin to understand the grave situation he faces, and start the long arduous process of turning America back into the great democracy our Forefathers intended it to be.
You're doing a great job, Jim, but you've got to break through the "F-word" if you really want to stop "beating around the Bush".
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» hey, don't blame me - i TRIED voting for the opposition!
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Posted by: Proud Liberal on Aug 23, 2006 7:37 AM
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If we manage to elect a Democratic House in November (and all Democrats support the move...how likely is that?), I suppose it might be possible to impeach Bush. If we also manage to elect a Democratic Senate in November it might then also be possible that the Senate would vote to convict him and remove him from office.
Then what? A President Cheney?
Next, imagine the above scenario repeated to impeach and convict and remove Cheney. Presuming Nancy Pelosi would then be Speaker of the House (and next in the line of succession), she then would become Prez.
Even less likely, you say?
Exactly!
By the time any of the above would happen the Bush/Cheney term would be over anyway. We need to preach less to each other (I include myself) and get out there and elect Democrats to office in November. We've got 2 1/2 months to do it, and then two years in which a Democratic Congress might (hopefully) put the reigns to administration abuses. Spending that time impeaching Bush would assure that nothing else would get done during that time.
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The truth and the people be damned; the end justifies the means in our brave new world!
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IF they{BUSHCO} are not prosecuted to the full extent of the law americans will suffer around the world and be held accountable for their leaders crimes. Truth will prevail ,NO MATTER WHAT LAWS ARE CHANGED by these criminals.
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they have us right where they want us.
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Bush is a symptom of the disease, not the cause.
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» Aaah, a fear monger. You poor thing. You would trade safety for liberty. What a shame!
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Posted by: groworgo on Aug 23, 2006 1:45 PM
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No amount of hateful vicous attacks on George Bush can change history, but it is certainly changing the future. People like this malcontent whose oped I am responding to are a boon for the Islamonazis. These people give Al Jazeera and the Islamonazis all the free advertising they need. You are one of Al Quedas most effective recruitment tools
So go ahead and warp facts and bend words and meaning. At least we know that you as well as the Islamofascists, are the enemy of freedom
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» The Islamic Republic of Iran sucks, bring Persia back
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» history began in '79
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Posted by: syn7hor on Aug 23, 2006 1:51 PM
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You rational thinking americans needs to sort this mess out. Unlike in Hitler's Germany, you can speak out! Bush hasn't built enough camps for you guys yet, but please hurry!
Your country is scaring the shit out of the rest of us damnit!
*awaiting the CIA to take me to some secret prison* Fuck'em.
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Posted by: axolotl_helix on Aug 23, 2006 2:08 PM
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• Al Qaeda, the Taliban, bin Laden, and Hussein were all creations of the CIA. That's not conspiracy theory, that's history.
• "They" don't hate us for our "freedom," they hate us for being warmongering imperialist pirates.
If America would just fucking go home and mind our own business, stop trying to play king-of-the-world, stop trying to force our so-called culture on everyone else on the planet, stop screwing over other countries for our own economic gain, and stop supporting the violent intolerant right-wing theocracy in charge of Israel- the Muslim theocrats would return to their war on bare midriffs. With no credible enemy, they would become irrelevant and eventually rejected by the people of their countries.
Why don't they hate Canada?
• Terrorism kills a trivial number of Americans compared to, say, fatal bee stings and lightning strikes, and you are thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash. They're not fighting a war on terror out of fear, they're creating a fear of terror out of the need for war.
• Bush's America is not an America worth fighting for. As aggressors and war criminals, we're now a legitimate military target. I will not die for a flag whose meaning is now somewhere between the stars-and-bars and the swastika in the eyes of the world. If we are to consider what Israel just did to the people of Lebanon legitimate, then how would your "Islamofascists" killing American people in retaliation for the actions of the Neocons be any different?
• We have our own crazy religious fanatics in this country. A Christian theocracy can be just as bad as a Muslim theocracy. They both want Armageddon, they both want genocide of the infidels. The fascists in DC would never have been able to go on this latest crusade without the support of the flag-waving Jesus freaks. I say fight them over here so we don't have to fight them over there.
• You've obviously bought the shit they've shoveled, you've become exactly what they tried to turn you into for their own selfish aims. You are the kind of Americans the world hates, and when the revolution comes, you will be the second against the wall.
• And the horse you rode in on.
» I'm talking to you, Chomsky & snat55...
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Posted by: rollo on Aug 23, 2006 2:16 PM
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It doesn't exist. Just like the WMDs. And lots of other fictions being visited upon the populace by neocons in CYA mode.
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Posted by: Craig C on Aug 23, 2006 2:49 PM
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You may not care about what is really right or wrong in the world, but the United States and the Republican Party definitely do.
http//:blogresponder.blogspot.com
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Posted by: vangogh69 on Aug 23, 2006 2:51 PM
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To start, we have to stop this foolishness about elections and call a spade a spade. We all know the only value either party believes in is $$$$$ and power, fuck the people. We must not dignify their contempt any longer by participating in their humiliation of us. Secondly, we have to take the info about both parties criminality to the streets to inform people (because you'd be surprised just how ignorant Americans really are). We have to get people to connect the "war on terror" to the price of oil, to American consumption of resources, to the American economy, to the capitalist system, and so on. (And we must MOST DEFINATELY get people to brand Israel as an outlaw state and stop funding thier ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.) This is to start...
The situation isn't hopeless for salvation comes from within. We must all work together, be willing to give up our comforts, and work towards change. A better world is possible.
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Posted by: Door man on Aug 23, 2006 2:54 PM
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When I was at the Democratic booth at the County Fair here, we were asking people to write down on a large pad - what their concerns were.
A fellow came to the booth (a union carpenter) and said that he'd just as soon tell us what he thinks. He said he was sick and tired of hearing about 911 and the threat of terrorism. He said he doesn't even listen to the news anymore because he is convinced of hearing more lies.
He went on for a bit - It occurred to me that this fellow is definitely not alone in this country and that if we had the leadership in this country to take these guys head on by asking the American people to stand up and truly be counted to answer these policies - To say - It is tragedy what the Neo-con Bush, Cheney and company have done to our credibility and honor throughout the world we would find a ready audience. It is a disgrace to find that in 6 short years this administration has used the phantom of 911 to justify a steady barrage on human and civil rights not only in the pursuit of an illegally conjured war but against American citizens as well – to nearly bankrupt this country of it’s standing in the world diplomatically, economically, and weaken our military capabilities as well.
It makes no sense for us to berate and attempt to shout down this bankrupt administration that seeks to obfuscate and change reality to fit their won sordid agenda. It is time to empower YOU, The American citizen to stand up and tell these outlaws what kind of America you want to be a part of. Americans are not a weak and frightened people hiding under beds waiting for an imaginary terrorist to attack.... We (the citizens) engaged in this grand experiment of Democracy are the leaders that carry the light in the world - The light that allows others, less fortunate, less able to fight, to see and follow our example. It is not the light of a cannon fire blowing into the homes of Iraqis and Lebanese to force change or suffer the wrath of an Empire.
We cannot believe that the American wants to be seen as the strongest, most powerful bully in this world – but rather the compassionate, nurturing, helpful and confident peacemaker.
Which will it be - America?
I am not a speech writer - but we have to come up with bold statements and then be ready for the onslaught of these control freak mucks - and blast them back with the confidence that we are right.
Forget about pandering to the patriotic cause. Dismiss it! For anyone to impugn another’s patriotism because he or she does not believe in killing 1000 to save one, is indefensible! It should not be tolerated. Patriotism is preserving the rapidly eroding values and commitments to freedom we once had. Patriotism is stopping this administration from destroying what they have already horribly injured. It is regaining our honor, integrity and hope we provided for the world and our own citizens... Let's take it back.
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Posted by: R.A. on Aug 23, 2006 4:34 PM
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Former CEO Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, September 2003
Annual payments that Cheney has received from Halliburton since he's been vice-president:
2001: $205,298
2002: $162,392
2003: $178,437
2004: $194,852
2005: $211,465
Cash bonus paid to Cheney by Halliburton just before he took office: $1.4 million
Retirement package he was given in 2000 after only 5 years as CEO: $20 million
Too bad this article doesn't mention that this is deferred compensation that is set in stone and is independent of the company’s performance. (I might give it more credence if it did.)
A factcheck.org article took on the so-called "ties" Cheney still has to the company:
http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html
This is an analysis of a campaign ad from 2004.
On the subject of his deferred compensation: "The $398,548 Halliburton has paid to Cheney while in office is all deferred compensation, a common practice that high-salaried executives use to reduce their tax bills by spreading income over several years. In Cheney's case, he signed a Halliburton form in December of 1998 choosing to have 50% of his salary for the next year, and 90% of any bonus money for that year, spread out over five years. (As it turned out, there was no bonus for 1999.) We asked Cheney's personal attorney to document the deferral agreement as well, and he supplied us with a copy of the form , posted here publicly for the first time.
Legally, Halliburton can't increase or reduce the amount of the deferred compensation no matter what Cheney does as vice president. So Cheney's deferred payments from Halliburton wouldn't increase no matter how much money the company makes, or how many government contracts it receives.
On the other hand, there is a possibility that if the company went bankrupt it would be unable to pay. That raises the theoretical possibility of a conflict of interest -- if the public interest somehow demanded that Cheney take action that would hurt Halliburton it could conceivably end up costing him money personally. So to insulate himself from that possible conflict, Cheney purchased an insurance policy (which cost him$14,903) that promises to pay him all the deferred compensation that Halliburton owes him even if the company goes bust and refuses to pay. The policy does contain escape clauses allowing the insurance company to refuse payment in the unlikely events that Cheney files a claim resulting "directly or indirectly" from a change in law or regulation, or from a "prepackaged" bankruptcy in which creditors agree on terms prior to filing. But otherwise it ensures Cheney will get what Halliburton owes him should it go under.
On his stock options: "That still would leave the possibility that Cheney could profit from his Halliburton stock options if the company's stock rises in value. However, Cheney and his wife Lynne have assigned any future profits from their stock options in Halliburton and several other companies to charity. And we're not just taking the Cheney's word for this -- we asked for a copy of the legal agreement they signed, which we post here publicly for the first time.
The "Gift Trust Agreement" the Cheney's signed two days before he took office turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (Cheney's home state), ....(see link for rest)
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Posted by: NewsView on Aug 23, 2006 8:59 PM
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Even if we are to assume that the rise of secrecy and the demise of public access and government accountability is a necessary price to pay during wartime, one can only hope and pray that we do not continue to become entangled in military conflicts abroad. If the loss of our national identity, personal freedoms and customary checks-and-balances are the price we must pay for “security”, so too should we recognize that the more intrusive sacrifices we make the more likely we are to fall upon our own sword — and in so doing handing the enemies of democracy and liberty a victory wherein the only guilty party is ourselves..
Eleanor Roosevelt once said, “There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.” Fear, by its very definition, is reactionary and shortsighted. Fear leads to haste. Haste leads to unquestioning loyalty, which is often defended as one's "patriotic duty". Poor leadership, in turn, leads to the erosion of our Constitution. The erosion of our Constitution leads to legislation from the bench. The weakening of our justice system leads to the loss of civil rights. Total cost? The American Dream. Value? Priceless.
Perhaps that's why Benjamin Franklin wisely observed, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Any psychologist will tell you that security is an illusion. A sense of security is a coping mechanism that prevents most people from becoming paralyzed by fear on a day-to-day basis. It keeps us from contemplating the odds of slipping on a patch of ice, drowning in a swift storm current, being pinned in by wildfire, ripped from our homes by a hurricane or tornado, slipping in the shower, attacked by roaming dogs, hospitalized with severe food poisoning, assault by a mugger, struck down by illness or long-term disability — or, heaven forbid — wiped out by a dirty bomb explosion. Death happens. The when, where and how is not up to us. What IS within our legitimate concern and control is whether or not we have a Constitution or a democratic Republic when the secrecy-pushers are through with the courts, Congress and the Constitution itself. If we are going to fear for the future, fear what harm fear itself can breed.
Shakespeare had it right when he wrote: “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves.”
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Posted by: nhilbourn on Aug 23, 2006 9:10 PM
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It would help to calm souls like mine which seem to long for works cited pages.
Maybe just links within the article. That would've been nice.
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on Aug 23, 2006 9:51 PM
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But has the US done _any_ good AT ALL in any of the wars it ever declared on other countries?
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Posted by: NewsView on Aug 24, 2006 1:31 AM
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Sadly, I have little confidence in the electoral process now that it has gone digital. Whether we're talking George W. Bush or someone else who equally offends American tradition and sensibility at some point in the future, how do we oust them on Election Day when the average American can't even get a paper audit? Should we start a campaign to vote absentee only?
Cheaters who want to cheat will find a way to do it, regardless. Unfortunately, technology leaves more opportunities to "cover one's tracks" without the general public catching on. By contrast, common sense dictates that the easiest type of vote to validate is the lowest tech type — the type that is so straightforward that a child can recognize tampering. The worst confusion you are going to get with a paper ballot, for example, is a "hanging chad." By contrast, check out the work of two Harvard PhDs that founded www.blackboxvoting.org, and also wrote a related book "Spychips: How Corporations and Government Plan to Track Your Every Move with RFID" (www.spychips.com). These sites blow wide open the idea that technology, in general, is secure. Whether the threat is viral — the same sort that infects your PC with Spyware — or personal, say a disgruntled e-voting employee who has been offered a handsome bribe for reprogramming all "No" votes for Mr. Smith to become "Yes" votes, the opportunities for foul play and mechanical breakdown are enormous. Modern day computer technology has exceeded or wisdom to deal with it appropriately. We have, in essence, opened Pandora's Box. Now that the lid is off, you can be sure that a 13-year-old hacker won't be the only one tempted to exploit it.
Technology-wise, we are living in the sociological equivalent of the Wild West. Problem? There aren't enough technologically literate sheriffs to patrol the digital landscape. And much like the Old West, “digital homesteaders” with the technological literacy to stop lawlessness are few and far between. Thus, as long as bona fide law enforcement and government agencies fall short of the necessary numbers to reign in technology gone wild, the responsibility for law, order and accountability lies in OUR HANDS — those that are technologically proficient and/or employed in such areas, that is. Thus, I would urge the hired hands working this New Frontier not to hack for malicious purposes, but to carefully scan their slice of the digital horizon for signs that those in power — in particular companies that supply technology for e-voting and other “public trust” state, federal and local uses are held in check. In this way, in the event that a real conspiracy is hatched, someone will be there to toll the warning bell or leak the necessary documentation to the press.
More than just informed voters, this country needs the help of ordinary Americans who realize that their eyes and ears account for a piece of the puzzle that forms the Big Picture. Already, some of the high-ranking employees of e-voting companies have been "outed" by the media for having been convicted of various felonies that should preclude such employment. Nevertheless, some e-voting spokespeople have gone on record promising to "deliver the election" to a local or national candidate. As yourself: Would anyone in their right mind make that claim if they were NOT rigging the vote? (Hiding in plain sight?) To prevent such blatant disregard for the Public Trust, this post is a call to all poll workers and techs, particularly those that hold jobs in critical "public access": Keep your eyes peeled and document everything no matter how insignificant it may seem at the time. You never know when you might be called upon to be part of the solution.
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For people who are regular media “consumers” — the minority of Americans who are likely to post or read from a site like this — this information on President George W. Bush and VP Cheney may come as no great surprise. But keep in mind that one of the reasons we have a corrupt political landscape is because we have a bankrupt civic landscape. No one who isn’t already politically receptive to this sort of subject matter will accept the “difficult truth.” For the same reason, I predict that no punitive action will be taken against the Bush presidency now or ever. We are no longer living in the Watergate era or even the Bill Clinton era. Americans are tired of investigations and apathetic towards questions of character, lawfulness and morality.
The typical response you’ll get from people who dislike what they read or hear is that the author of the offending news or commentary item is a part of the “vast media conspiracy”. This excuses your average citizen from paying serious attention to the issues that are deserving of public scrutiny. Never mind that this "conspiracy" is simultaneously a left-wing media conspiracy and a right-wing media conspiracy. Like the lead character on Discovery Channel’s “Myth Busters” — who oftentimes wears a shirt that reads, “I reject your reality and substitute my own”, most Americans of opposing political inclination or political apathy simply WON'T accept the facts — and to whatever extent this colors their thinking they will reject these facts in favor of their own desired perceptions. For the same reason, few Americans are going to do their own homework to verify whether someone like Jim Hightower has reported his findings honestly. It's far easier to simply slap a label of “political bias” on any reality that contradicts their notions and go about their business — including their next trip into a voting booth — completely unchanged no matter how blatant or overt the crimes of character or political crisis becomes.
Americans are seeing the results of poor political leadership because too many voters — if they bother to vote at all — have become so politically shallow, lazy and partisan that we do not respond to any truth that does not fall within partisan lines or jive with the impression we get from a few televised debates. So numb are most people to the truth that they would even go so far as to deny calls for investigation in order to continue towing the party line unimpeded by doubt or dissent. The only thing that might be a little tougher to deny would be the sort of citations and references you find in a book or scholarly journal. Newspaper and Website quotations are no longer enough — writers need to pepper their news items and commentary with multiple footnotes to start making inroads with an increasingly distrustful public. Likewise, Jim Hightower needs references, citations and as many links to credible news sources as possible — not to preach to the choir but to reach the unconvinced who are too lazy, frightened or partisan to search out the facts for themselves.
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Posted by: Verdillac on Aug 24, 2006 8:26 AM
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I almost expect Bush to pull off his mask revealing Emperor Palpatine beneath declaring total Executive Power over the Universe. Oh, Yoda, with your lightsaber, Need You We Do! MmmMM?
Things could get really bad really fast after November. We may seriously have to consider living up to the Declaration of Independence and rise up again.
Of course if one were to ask the NRA, they will say "there's nothing wrong you tree-hugging peaceniks!" Not one of them has sqeaked about the threats made and carried out against the OTHER amendments! It might be funny to watch their reaction when their membership data base is used to round them up first...the ones with traceable addresses, who belong to a firearms club..I know that would be my first move, if I were a power-hungry fascist.
Look out NRA, Bush will get you too! He probably ALREADY knows where you live and how many weapons you have. Think about that!
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Posted by: timrowan on Aug 24, 2006 9:35 AM
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Date on which invading Iraq was first discussed at a George W. Bush Cabinet meeting: January 30, 2001, day 10 of his first term.
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Posted by: show me the truth on Aug 24, 2006 10:40 AM
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It was all about spreading America's influence in the world which of course has suffered severve damage and they have lost all credibility in the world. Why should there be democracy in Iraq and not in Saudi Arabia? Hypocracy to say the least.
Bush is oil and the saudies are oil....their is no democracy in America anyway...it is just a facade and the millions are ruled by lobbyists and the rich for the benefit of the rich ... they don't care how mant American boys get killed
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By Ivan G. Goldman
--Mama, I made a big mess.
--That’s ok, dear. Just get the servants to clean it up.
--No, mama, I tried that.
--That’s what I tell your father. You can’t get decent help anymore. What kind of mess are we talking about, anyway? Ketchup, a coke bust? What?
--Iraq, mama. The one with the ‘q’ at the end.
--Oh, that. Listen, Iraq’s not nearly as terrible as everybody says. Watch Fox, dear, like I told you.
--I do, mama.
--Iraq’s a lot like Katrina.
--That’s what everybody says.
--Those Iraqis are just like all those colored people they showed complaining about everything down there. Listen, those Arabs live much better than they did before we bombed the crap out of them. Money just pours into the place. Cheney wets his beak, everything’s coming up roses.
--But they say a lot of American troops got killed and burned and everything.
--Really. Do you know any of them?
--No.
--Me neither. They’d be out on the street if we hadn’t given them a paycheck.
--But mama, they’re dead and missing arms and legs and stuff.
--Yeah? Well listen, kid, grow some backbone. Those oil fields we grabbed over there will be worth a mint someday. So forget about it. Clear some brush or something. Cheney will watch the store. From his bunker, I mean.
--Okay, mama. But can’t you stop everybody from making fun of me?
--You little squirt. Stop whining. I told your father a thousand times we shoulda let Jeb inherit the presidency. That’s what the Godfather did. But your father? He knew better. Passed up Michael and gave the job to Fredo.
--Huh?
--Ride your SUV around the ranch. And be sure to practice saying ‘Bring it on’ in the mirror. It’ll make you feel masculine. Too bad it won’t make you smart.
--Huh?
[From http://ivangoldman.blogspot.com/]
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EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE IMPLIED THE MEANING OF THE OLD MILITARY ADAGE OF " B-O-H-I-C-A", NO ONE IS LISTENING...SO TRY AGAIN, AGAIN, AND AGAIN...
AND YOU ARE OFFERING THE PROVERBIAL FIX OF THE "VASELINE" BEFORE THE RAPE, YOU MAY ADVISE THE USE OF THE NEW PRODUCTS LIKE WD-40, LIQUID WRENCH, ETC, TO EASE THE INSERTION EVENT...AS MARK TWAIN ONCE REMARKED :
"IT CAN PROBABLY BE SHOWN BY FACTS AND FIGURES THAT THERE IS NO DISTINCTLY NATIVE AMERICAN CRIMINAL CLASS EXCEPT CONGRESS."
AND, SOME ADDITIONAL EXCERPTS THAT AID INDENTIFYING THE UNSCRUPULOUS BUSH 43 :
See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda. GEORGE W. BUSH
Regrettably, empirical studies reveal, however, that authoritarians are frequently enemies of freedom, antidemocratic, antiequality, highly prejudiced, mean-spirited, power hungry, Machiavellian, and amoral. They are also often conservatives without conscience who are capable of plunging this nation into disasters the likes of which we have never known. JOHN DEAN 7/22/06
“By the time Richard Milhous Nixon goes on trial in the Senate, the only real reason for trying him will be to understand how he ever became president of the United States at all ... and the real defendant, at that point, will be the American Political System. “ -- Hunter S. Thompson, 1973.(WHAT ABOUT BUSH 43???)
ALSO, GEORGE BERNARD SHAW CLEARLY DESCRIBES
BUSH 43 MENTALITY:
He knows nothing and thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career. -
He who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways, will receive anything from the Lord. Let the lowly brother boast in his exaltation, and the rich in his humiliation, because like the flower of the grass he will pass away. James 1: 1-15
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Posted by: khokar on Aug 27, 2006 5:14 PM
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We would be, but only foolish to believe all this;
Arabian countries are sitting on the pits containing world’s crucial fuel energy resources.
The world’s lone super power feels this right full to secure these crucial resources for her best use and to avail an effective Hegemony in this part of the world.
For last some decades, under the coercive western policies in Middle East, the natives and local dictator rulers of these Countries have been fully emasculated and successfully castrated. Whole Middle East is supposed to be playing the only tunes of ---USA.
After tying up almost all the countries in Middle East into western bondage, in some farm or other,-- Iran is found to be the only one odd last obstacle, offering lots of resistances. Iran is surrounded by western strongholds like in Iraq and Afghanistan. These are in full western occupation, ready serving as van guards for any planned next onslaught. But Iran has greater depth and can offer multiple layers of defences and many more other fortifications for the west to converge on to...
The track record of recent US invasion of Iraq shows that US lead forces did not advance into Iraq till chief UN weapon inspector, Dr Hans Blix categorically made it clear that there were no WMDs and there was a little resistance of scud medium range missile in Iraq.
Western forces and its agents are the warrior and conqueror of no-resistance, depleted lands --but they easily get bodged down, like mighty Israeli army in the face of determination and resilience shown by, even a very weak and negligible resistance of Hezbollah in south Lebanon… or Taliban vehemently resisting occupation by US/NATO forces in Afghanistan.
On going media hype of terrorism is another weapon being implied very successfully at home front, to keep the public fear full and scared all the time. This keeps the graph of public opinion up in favour of declared ‘war on terror’. On going exercise of ‘Air planes terror plot’ is also proving to be a fruitful ‘opinion harvester’ and may be kept alive and ripe as a ‘universal tool’ for a long period of time to come.
Al-Qaeda friends are usually, a good helping hand in the up keep of this hype. They can any time come up with their simple video rhetoric to rescue the whole affair. To mark and reaffirm this hype, their next video release may be expected right before the 9/11 anniversary event. Followed by another on dot release by Al,jazeera before midterm election of US senate/ house in November,2006.
Israel Army retreat in the face of Hezbollah resilience in south Lebanon has brought lot of embarrassment for the US. Out of desperation, US attack on Iran, with all her might under any pretext, may be eminent.
In the wake of Hezbollah guerrilla tactic demonstrated in Lebanon, Iran may put up greater resilience and US lead forces are likely to have tough time in the killing fields set up by Iran.
Anyhow, in view of current arrival of forces, to beef up the UNIFIL in Lebanon, and in the light of intriguing statements emerging That Israel ‘may have to go it alone.’"; High altitude air strikes and long range cruise missile attack, may be the preferred Option, to root out the Iran’s nuclear capabilities.
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