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With Lt. Watada's Case, GI Resistance Grows

By Sarah Olson, TruthOut.org. Posted August 17, 2006.


A growing number of Iraq war combat vets are resisting orders, going to jail, or going AWOL -- and they want to talk about why.

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Clifton Hicks was looking for a body. Specifically, the Army tank driver was fumbling about in the dark, looking for and failing to find the remains of the Iraqis who, moments before, had been firing on his tank. When Hicks's flashlight swept the ground around his feet, he realized he was standing in the remains of a man. Literally. His boots wedged between the rib cage and the pelvis, blood and human organs squishing out from beneath the souls of his shoes.

It's this experience and others like it that made Hicks question the war in Iraq. It also compelled him to support US Army First Lieutenant Ehren Watada -- the highest-ranking member of the military to publicly refuse to deploy to Iraq.

28-year-old Lieutenant Watada disobeyed deployment orders on June 22, several weeks after announcing his opposition to the war at a press conference. He is charged with six violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice: one count of missing troop movement, two counts of speaking contemptuously toward officials, and three counts of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. An Article 32 hearing is scheduled for Thursday, August 17, to decide whether to proceed with a general court-martial. If tried and convicted, Lieutenant Watada could face over seven years in prison.

Gi resistance is a growing trend

The Army would like to depict Lieutenant Watada as a lone military voice of dissent: a renegade upon whom enlisted men and officers alike look with scorn and derision. But Clifton Hicks is joining a growing number of Iraq war combat veterans who support the lieutenant. And, he says, for every veteran who supports Lieutenant Watada publicly, there are possibly hundreds more who feel they cannot speak out.

Geoffrey Millard is a sergeant in the Army National Guard and has no problem speaking publicly or supporting Lieutenant Watada. He spent eight years in the military, and was in Iraq between 2004 and 2005. He says GI resistance is a growing trend. "American GIs are beginning to respect the Nuremberg principles. They are resisting orders; they are going to jail, going to Canada, and going AWOL. And they're talking about why they're doing it."

When he was ordered to deploy, Millard says he didn't know how to resist the war. "Lieutenant Watada hadn't come forward. I didn't know about Camilo Mejia." This, he says, is the importance of Lieutenant Watada's public opposition to the war. It shows military personnel who disagree with the Iraq war another path.

Millard says it's important that leaders like Lieutenant Watada are supported; the brutality and duration of the US occupation demand it. He remembers a day during his tour of duty when a soldier opened fire on a car, killing an entire family. During the evening briefing, the commanding colonel said, "If these fucking Hajjis would learn to drive, this shit wouldn't happen." This is one of countless examples Millard has of the dehumanization accompanying the Iraq war. "This person wiped out an entire bloodline, and the colonel implied it was the victims' fault, using language designed to offend and demean them."

Conditioned to hate

Army tank driver Clifton Hicks says the military presence in Iraq is clearly not making a difference for the Iraqi people. "We didn't care about Iraqis, because we were conditioned to hate them." He says he knows from experience that Lieutenant Watada's belief that the war is illegal and immoral is the correct position.

Hicks is haunted by his activity in Iraq. He talks about what he calls the "wedding party incident." His unit was on patrol when they heard shooting between US armed forces and what they thought were Iraqi insurgents. While Hicks prepared to go house to house in search of the enemy, what he discovered instead was a wedding. Some of the men had been shooting rifles into the air, as is customary during family parties and celebrations. Three people from the wedding were shot; a 6-year-old girl was killed. When the platoon sergeant called the command center to report the incident, "all they said to us was 'Charlie Mike,' a stupid Army acronym for continue mission."

No one spoke of the incident, and it was like it never happened. "What struck me most was just how callous we had become. I didn't even care myself. Sure some Iraqi kid had been killed; big deal. It's like seeing a dead dog on the side of the road." Hicks said he had no thoughts of shame or regret, no thoughts of the girl's mother or friends.

"We hated them and were happy to have killed one. For as long as I can remember I've been taught to fear and mistrust Arabs. That's how those kids on the news were able to rape the 14-year-old girl, shoot her in the face, and kill her whole family. They just didn't care, they still don't care, they couldn't make themselves care if they tried. Every soldier on the frontlines is capable of that or worse."

Hicks eventually filed for and received conscientious objector status. He wants the US to withdraw from Iraq immediately, and is convinced Lieutenant Watada is taking the only honorable and patriotic action available in the face of what he calls an unjust and illegal war. "The only way to be a patriot is to be against the war. Thomas Jefferson would pat me and Lieutenant Watada on the back."

Feeeling guilt all the time

Indiscriminate violence is only one of the reasons Prentice Reid supports Lieutenant Watada. Reid was in the Army Infantry for one tour in Iraq, between March of 2002 and 2003. He was honorably discharged in May of 2005, and is now a student at Central Texas College near Ft. Hood, Texas. To Lieutenant Watada, he writes: "I only hope all of us can find the balls to stand up for truth when the time comes. You risked not only your reputation, but also potentially your freedom, for truth, and for this we all salute you, sir."

Reid says he questioned the war from the beginning, but his doubts deepened when he arrived in Iraq. "The entire war was a sham from the beginning," Reid says. "There were no WMDs. No connection to Osama bin Laden. I'm over there thinking we have an enemy, but this is contradicted every day by what I'm seeing as I drive around."

Reid was a truck driver in Iraq, and one of his responsibilities was to transport Iraqi prisoners to US-run prisons. "I would see how they were treated; there was so much abuse. There was no restroom for them, and they had to urinate and defecate on themselves." Reid says most were later released without charges having been filed against them.

"The longer we were there, the more things deteriorated. There was tighter security, more check points. Things were not rebuilt. I wish I had had the courage and the platform to speak out," Reid says. "I have insomnia. I have nightmares. I feel guilt all the time about what I contributed."

Reid says families and communities are destroyed due to the length of time troops are required to spend in Iraq, and their insufficient medical treatment when they return. He says he's put his own wife and daughter through hell. He doesn't want others to experience this type of trauma, and believes that leaders like Lieutenant Watada are taking an important and necessary step toward ending the war. He says that rather than feeling betrayed by Lieutenant Watada's actions, he feels encouraged and supported.

Lt. Watada speaks for me

An active duty Army specialist who has asked to use only his initials, DP, stationed at Ft. Stewart, Georgia, joined the Army in April of 2003. He was injured during training, but expects to join his unit in Afghanistan in February of 2007. At Ft. Stewart he's escorted war resisters to their court-martial and is generally sympathetic. But it's different for a lieutenant to make this kind of stand, he says. "To see an officer who recognizes that something is wrong and who would take that kind of heat: I really respect that."

When he joined the Army, DP believed in what was happening in Iraq. "When I learned there were no WMDs, I was pretty disappointed in the military intelligence, the analysts, and everyone who swore up and down that this was a necessary pre-emptive strike," he says. As the US armed forces mission in Iraq disappears, DP says new goals are put in place. The goal of finding weapons of mass destruction turned into the military overthrow of Saddam Hussein as the objective. After Hussein was detained, the military was to help stabilize Iraq. "Our mission isn't clear, and keeps shifting. I feel like a puppet."

Over the phone, you can hear DP talking to his son. He and his wife are also expecting twins. He says that while he doesn't support the Iraq war, protesting isn't an option for him. "I don't have the financial freedom to protest the war. Lieutenant Watada is speaking for me."

DP is the only member of his family with a paying job, and with twins on the way, he doesn't feel he can risk going to prison. But, DP says, the anti-war protests are important. "We in the military don't have free speech. If you've got a problem with the government you need to be able to tell them." DP says he got in trouble recently for talking about Lieutenant Watada. His commanding officers told him that as long as he was in the military and wearing the military uniform, he needed to keep a low profile, and not voice anti-government opinions.

Regretting participation

"It takes real courage to resist the war," says Cloy Richards, a former artillery cannoneer for the Marines. "I was afraid to not go; afraid to say no. I took the easy way out and went to the war. It takes way more bravery to say no."

Corporal Richards did two tours of duty in Iraq, between March and October of 2003, and again between March and October of 2004. Like so many in the military, his initial support for the invasion began to disintegrate as the occupation lengthened and became more brutal.

"I was in the artillery unit. I saw a lot of civilian casualties," says Richards, who has seven nephews and one niece. "I love kids," he says. And his views of the Iraq war began to change as he saw Iraqi children die. He particularly remembers watching some kids play with unexploded ammunition. When it exploded, several of them were killed and several more were disfigured. "It was kind of like everything else over there. I just shoved it to the back of my mind somewhere and forgot about it." Except that Richards couldn't actually forget.

Richards has a hard time forgetting other experiences in Iraq as well. For example, the first time he was ambushed, on March 25th, 2003. "My commanding officer lost his hand that day," Richards remembers. "But he wrapped cloth around the remaining portions of his arm and led us into battle."

By his second tour of duty, Richards says he didn't want to fight. The reason he's speaking out now, he says, is not because he has some kind of agenda. "It's just that I've been there. I've seen it. I feel sorry and am trying to make amends for all the bad things I've been a part of. I should have said no the second time, when my heart and my mind were telling me not to go."

This guilt is part of the reason Richards says it's so important for the people like Lieutenant Watada to take the lead. "As an officer, he lends more credibility to anti-war sentiments among the troops. The lieutenant is leading by example, and this is taken very seriously. An officer's example is what we are supposed to follow." It's only now, Richards says, that he's found an example that he wants to follow.

Listening to the troops

Geoffrey Millard, the 8-year Army National Guard veteran is quick to point out that not any single story is conclusive. Each member of the military has something to tell that folks back in the states can learn from. "Each of these stories means something," he says.

The experiences and the expertise of Iraq war veterans are missing from the media coverage of the Iraq war. "When we turn on the evening news, we don't ever hear about a GI's experience." This leads to a skewed and unrealistic impression of the war. Millard says that if the Iraq war veterans' opinions and experience were valued, the Army would be forced to uphold Lieutenant Watada as a hero, rather than attempt to put him in prison.

For now, there are dozens of members of the military who publicly support Lieutenant Watada. There are likely hundreds more who are watching anxiously in silence, waiting for an outcome in Lieutenant Watada's case. They all say they view him as a true war hero, and believe in his efforts to end the Iraq war. They say he is fighting for what they believe in, and for that they are grateful. In Army parlance, they might say Charlie Mike: continue mission.

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rebellion
Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 17, 2006 3:43 AM   
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With just rebellion against the unjust/illegal Iraq war both outside the military and inside the military it is only a matter of time before the Bushies and/or others will have to withdraw the troops and end the war. Most Americans now favor withdrawal and will make their voices felt in November. Instead of outing Valerie Plame the Bushies should have outed themselves.

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perfect clue1
Posted by: Perfectclue on Aug 17, 2006 4:32 AM   
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It should be obvious to all by now, that Amerika's foreign policies have been criminal since the last world war, W.W.II, and have been imperilistic even before the cold war, all the way back to the days of Teddy Roosevelt when Amerika killed hundreds of thousands of Filipinos resisting so called Amerikan democracy, when in fact it was replacing Spanish colonialism with Amerikan colonial, imperial masters.

Class nationalism, is "nationalism" because the nation states, as the geographic mechanism, originally intended to be used for Enlightenment, universal values, the extension and replacement of Class oligarchies under feudalism was based on the inclusive principle of universal standards, democratic standards, egalitarian standards, that was supposed to end class oligarchies, and their mercenary middle layers like the Catholic Church.

Instead, the social movement of freedom, liberty, equality, which initially was intended to be a liberating, revolutionary, international movement, became corrupted by the replacement of industrial capitalism, commercial capitalism, a new Class society, with its own corrupt middle layers, mercenary shits, ideological class liars like the Corporate media has degenerated into today. The inclusive principle of liberation was corrupted by the exclusive principle of class despotism, class oligarchy, hence class nationalism, morphing into class totalitarianism, and fascist ideologies, fascist foreign policies.

Western class oligarchies have used the cover of "democracy", appearance of democracy to hide behind the corruption of class despotism and today justifying class totalitarianism, imperial policies, that began with Napoleon's first Capitalist attempt at Empire. England replaced it, Nazi Germany tried its role, and today Amerika and Israel are trying to impose their own criminal wars on the rest of the world, compliments of Class Depotism, Class Totaliarianism, Class Nationalism, Class oligarchies, class ideologies, corrupt class elites, mercenaries, and Capitalist Empire.

We prosecuted the Nazis for the highest crime, the "act of agression"....and the whole of Western media, corporate media have nothing to say about Amerika's, fascist foreign policies of aggression, especially since W.W.II, except to cheerlead this Fascism, Zionist Fascism of Amerika and Israel. We have two class parties that are parties of war criminals, complicit in these crimes, A Congress of war criminals, a nation of war criminals, who now corrupt the Security Council, the same way that class corruption rots out democracy of nation states through class hierarchies, that ignore the majority of U.N. members and similarily, we have liberal appeasing fascist, zionist elites who go along with this Fascism, just as Europe is whoring as the subordinate layers for Amerikan Empire. Sieg Heil to this rot, the Corporate Press, Western class Totalitarianism, fascism, and all of its corrupt class allies.

RESISTANCE TO THIS FASCISM WORLD WIDE!!!! AND END CLASS RULE ONCE AND FOR ALL WITH THE STANDARDS OF UNIVERSAL NATIONALISM ORIGINALLY INTENDED BY THE ENLIGHTENMENT, AND ITS HEIRS SOCIALIST- MARXISTS.

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Sadly, the fact that many soldiers are watching the Lt case........
Posted by: Prophit on Aug 17, 2006 5:13 AM   
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......... is why the military will make an example of him. They won't let him off the hook, he will be found guilty and serve jail time. If not, then the military will have wholesale loss of control of their people and they will not allow that.

I am sorry that is the case. Its becoming extremely costly to anyone resisting, protesting, or otherwise exercising freedom of speech to do so without serious repercussions. However, if enough of the remaining soldiers are not psychos, and they join the resistance, than we will be forced to get out of Iraq.

I have always said, first let the sons, daughters and grandchildren of the congressmen, senators, white house executive branch, and Bush's daughters lead the way into war in Iraq and then others would follow, but right now only one congressman has a child fighting in Iraq and I just read that he got killed this week. So now they know how it feels to lose a child. Too bad there are not more of them with that same experience.

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» "Goldstar mom"? Posted by: Allison
» RE: "Goldstar mom"? Posted by: Asses of Evil
psyops
Posted by: psyopswatcher on Aug 17, 2006 5:13 AM   
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I love your story, Sarah. These things to watch for in returning vets are a dead giveaway to a troubled soul:

Conditioned to hate
Feeeling guilt all the time
Regretting participation
Listening to the troops

I'm a 12-year navy vet and I know how they operate, the troubles never stop for dissenters. But I'm a firm believer that you do not KILL in the name of freedom in one country, to have freedom of speech stiffled in your own. Lt. Watada speaks for me too.

God, I wish they'd start learning to follow Your laws and stop all killings. THOU SHALT NOT KILL, four simple words--what's not to understand? Hunger, disease, and lifestyle are bad enough killers of their own. I'm glad the troops are questioning the wisdom of the pre-emptive strike--it was wrong and some of us knew it all the time.

Good for the ones paying attention.

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» RE: psyops Posted by: maximr
THIS COMBAT VET AGREES..............
Posted by: kc10ken on Aug 17, 2006 5:40 AM   
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Having spent over 13 years serving honorably in the military, including 3 tours in the middle east, I absolutely agree with the military personnel mentioned in this article who oppose the war in Iraq.

I was lucky. Extremely lucky.

In the fall of 2002 I knew we were going to be dragged into a preemptive war of choice in Iraq and I felt it was going to be a terrible mistake. At that point, I still had 6 months left of my 6 year enlistment. I still gave our government the benefit of the doubt until October of 2002 when Donald Rumsfeld told the world he knew EXACTLY where the WMD's were in Iraq. I knew at that moment our government was LYING. If Rumsfeld had been truthful, he simply could have told Hans Blix and the UN weapons inspection teams (in Iraq at that time) where to look for the WMD's.

Now the clock was ticking.

On Feb 7th, 2003 my 6 year enlistment was up and I refused to reenlist. When I told my reenlistment NCO the reasons why, his eyes widened and he looked at me like I was an alien that just stepped off a UFO. I told him, in no uncertain terms, that our "President" was getting ready to make a terrible mistake in Iraq and I wanted no part of it.

I left the service on that day and never looked back.

2 weeks later, stop loss kicked in, preventing ANYONE from leaving the service for ANY reason. 3 weeks later, the war began and my former unit was mobilized. In the past 3.5 years, most of my fellow service members (who I still keep in contact with) have changed their minds about the war and now agree that it was a terrible mistake....just like I said in the fall of 2002.

WE NEED MORE MILITARY MEMBERS TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ.

It's the ONLY way these right wingnut neocons will get the message. I've never been involved politcally but the war in Iraq is WRONG and really hits me hard. I live a quarter mile from a Veterans cemetary and there are too many young soldiers being buried in it these days. Let's stop the body bags from coming back (the one's YOU'RE not allowed to see flying into Dover Air Force Base as per Bush's orders).

My dad was a disabled combat Vet from the Korean "conflict". He died at the age of 52 in a Veterans Hospital and as a kid I cannot forget going to the hospital to see him so many times and seeing disabled Vets with no arms, no legs, horribly burned and disfigured and maimed for life.

We've come full circle again.

18,500 of our young soldiers are now PERMANENTLY maimed/disabled due to Bush's QUAGMIRE in Iraq. Recent polls show that 72% of our military in Iraq now say the war is lost and we should pull out immediately. I agree.

As more and more military members speak out against the war the American public will become angry at the administration and demand an end to this nonsense. Too bad it couldn't have come sooner and saved the lives of 2600 fine young American soldiers.

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Too many good men and women have died, having been lied to
Posted by: concerned Canadian on Aug 17, 2006 6:17 AM   
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It is time to rebuild NOT Iraq or Iran or some far off place where the rich and infamous own oil shares; rather, it is a time to rebuild the lives of those soldiers who have fought for America no matter what we know now about the dark reasons for this war. It is time to rebuild the people's faith in the country. It is time to rebuild the voting process to ensure a democratically elected individual will sit as President in 2008. It is time to rebuild the mechanics of the lost system of checks and balances meant to ensure that the people's wishes are represented and that a government is of and for the people. It is time for Americans to rebuild America, my neighbour.

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Our Boys have got Rush egging them on
Posted by: owlbear1 on Aug 17, 2006 6:25 AM   
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daily telling them they are getting revenge for 9/11.

You know the lie Dick and George have been selling since the WMDs didn't pan out.

I purpose a very special draft. Its pool the list of people who have donated more than $50 to Republicans.

Let them wallow in the shit they've been spewing.

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Hang This in a Public Place
Posted by: rockpicker on Aug 17, 2006 7:30 AM   
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Magnetic Ribbons and the Yellowcake of Faith

When we wake puking shame
at last, and know the dream
for sham, embraced en masse...
When bells that rang victorious
hang mute, their tarnished claims
ignored in disrepute, and
bitter sons, having been all they
could be, can't wish back innocence
or the leg below the knee...

(This brash regime's trimmed reason
from its ranks, its black guard
in the street, protecting flanks.)

...then will we heed the schemers'
gloating leer? "There's no future
for angry dissidents here."
Row on row, with hand
in trembling hand, it's come to this.
WE DREAMERS NEED TO STAND!



-- rockpicker

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It's not right to blame this one on the GOP alone
Posted by: Allan Stevo on Aug 17, 2006 7:32 AM   
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OB,
I disagree with you painting the picture that the Democrats are right on this one and the Republicans wrong. It seems to be a more important disagreement than party politics. There are Republicans who are opposed to the war in Iraq. If I remember correctly the Democratic presidential candidate in 2004 did not oppose the war in Iraq, he simply opposed the commander-in-chief.

Allan Stevo

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A Whole New Meaning
Posted by: thehousedog on Aug 17, 2006 7:40 AM   
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Behind the "reasons" of what our men and women in the armed forces learn and why, this article gives a whole new meaning to "support the troops". While serving in the armed forces, I find it inconceivable that they are prohibited form exercising their first amendment right of free speech. And as usual, the fact that somebody would dare disagree with the current Reich is cause for them to be marginalized and demonized by our current batch of looney tunes leaders. Support the Troops! and bring them all home now so they can repel the invaders we have in our country.

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For what he believes in,
Posted by: symcokid on Aug 17, 2006 7:46 AM   
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we laud First Lieutenant Ehren Watada for his staunch stand against the inequities of this Illegal War in Iraq and all of the atrocities associated with it! He deserves the support of all who are opposed to the intimidation, threats and pre-emptive strikes against sovereign foreign countries by this SUPERPOWER, USofA in it's quest for World domination.

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"Johnny Got His Gun", Dalton Trumbo
Posted by: clonechemist on Aug 17, 2006 8:09 AM   
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If you make a war if there are guns to be aimed if there are bullets to be fired if there are men to be killed they will not be us. They will not be us the guys who grow wheat and turn it into food the guys who make clothes and paper and houses and tiles the guys who build dams and power plants and string the long moaning high tension wires the guys who crack crude oil down into a dozen different parts who make light globes and sewing machines and shovels and automobiles and airplanes and tanks and guns oh no it will not be us who die. It will be you.

It will be you-you who urge us on to battle you who incite us against ourselves you who would have one cobbler kill another cobbler you who would have one man who works kill another man who works you who would have one human being who wants only to live kill another human being who wants only to live. Remember this. Remember this well you people who plan for war. Remember this you patriots you fierce ones you spawners of hate you inventors of slogans. Remember this as you have never remembered anything else in your lives.

We are men of peace we are men who work and we want no quarrel. But if you destroy our peace if you take away our work if you try to range us one against the other we will know what to do. If you tell us to make the world safe for democracy we will take you seriously and by god and by Christ we will make it so. We will use the guns you force upon us we will use them to defend our very lives and the menace to our lives does not lie on the other side of a nomansland that was set apart without our consent it lies within our own boundaries here and now we have seen it and we know it.

Put the guns into our hands and we will use them. Give us the slogans and we will turn them into realities. Sing the battle hymns and we will take them up where you left off. Not one not ten not ten thousand not a million not ten millions not a hundred millions but a billion two billions of us all the people of the world we will have the slogans and we will have the hymns and we will have the guns and we will use them and we will live. Make no mistake of it we will live. We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love and bear our children in tranquillity in security in decency in peace. You plan the wars you masters of men plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.

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Summer Viewing List
Posted by: NoPCZone on Aug 17, 2006 8:53 AM   
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Here is a video education
The Fog of War--Sony Pictures Classics
Why We Fight-- Sony Pictures Classics
Uncovered-The Whole Truth About the Iraq War--Disinformation
Democracy Now!- (daily webcast/broadcast from Pacifica) M-F daily webcast in RealMedia (Streaming)/ iTunes Podcast/ Bit Torrent MPEG-4. Tons of archived stuff. You could spend days there and never run out of good stuff.

www.democracynow.org


There's more but get started.

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Choose to stop fighting
Posted by: badkitty on Aug 17, 2006 8:54 AM   
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From Lt. Watada's speech to the Veterans for Peace national convention this past Saturday, August 12--

"Today, I speak with you about a radical idea. It is one born from the very concept of the American soldier (or service member). It became instrumental in ending the Vietnam War - but it has been long since forgotten. The idea is this: that to stop an illegal and unjust war, the soldiers can choose to stop fighting it."

Santayana said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Now, I remember the Vietnam war only too clearly, and I remember how so many people went to jail or left the country rather than fight that war, because they understood the difference between right and wrong. I've tried demonstrating, and my senators and representative, as well as a lot of other senators, are probably real tired of hearing from me, and I really think if this war is to end, Lieutenant Watada is correct, the soldiers need to refuse to fight any longer. I don't support our soldiers in Iraq, I support our soldiers who have refused to fight this illegal pre-emptive war of aggression--the ones who understand the difference between right and wrong. Since June I have had a poster in my living room window saying "Refuse Illegal War (Thank you Lt. Watada)". This war has done so much harm to this country, both financially and in terms of our "security", I have no sympathy for our military who have participated in it. It's time for our military to stand up and say they refuse to fight this illegal war and occupation.

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» RE: Choose to stop fighting Posted by: pocomoco
Conscience
Posted by: Ming on Aug 17, 2006 10:27 AM   
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The human condition includes aggression, hostility, fear, and war. That will not change because it is deeply imbedded in our brain cells like a deadly chemical cocktail. Likewise, there will always be those who support war and those who support peace. Sometimes the difference between the two groups is a mature conscience. Today, I do not support war as a political or religious option. I do support defending my home and my country, but not by pre-emptive military strikes. The war on terrorism is a political ploy to keep the general population controlled by fear. Instead, we should be treating terrorism by means of international criminal agencies. We should be fighting individuals, not nations. Perhaps you wonder where my patriotism is. Sitting in a box with my 10 military medals, old Army uniform, and honorable discharge for having served 20 years on active duty protecting my country. Confused? So am I some days. But my conscience never wavers about the wrongful death of so many for so little.

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gramps
Posted by: gramps on Aug 17, 2006 11:09 AM   
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Why Terrorism?


What is the reason for terrorism, and what is terrorism anyway? There must be more to it than fanatics randomly killing the civilians of another country because they dislike freedom, or behavior that does not fit their own religious convictions. There has to be a better reason than that. Why would anyone strap a bomb to their waist and blow themselves up? An elderly Palestinian when asked this question on TV responded: “ What else can we do when we are faced with planes and tanks and bombs? All that we have to resist with is our own bodies.” The modern killing machines of the Israeli's and the Americans have been used against civilians. They not only drop bombs and strafe civilian non-combatants but use land mines, cluster bombs, and even have chemical and biological weapons in their arsenals. The modern warfare against non-combatants can only be answered with “You kill our civilians and we will kill yours.”

Al Quada, Hezballah, Hamas and other resistance forces are waging a war of human desperation against the might of a mechanized colossus that in the name of “national defense” saps the money of its own taxpayers to fatten the bottom line of corporations. Islam has been in the religion business for ages and has never tried to use force to impose its ideology on anyone. This can not be said for the Christian crusaders. Why would Islam decide to wage war on us in this generation?

The corporations public relations machine that has been honed by billions of dollars spent on advertising are using their brainwashing techniques to convince us that we are in danger from religious fanatics. This is just another exercise of using war as economic policy. Scare the shit out of the American people and they will quietly accept their tax money being stolen and the loss of their liberties as the Constitution is trashed. They have over twenty think tanks like Heritage and The American Enterprise Institute that provide talking heads for TV. Their lobbyists even use congressional offices to fabricate bills that they desire. The appropriations committees have just given the Pentagon another 450 billion dollars and Israel another 4 billion. What is truly frightening is that the only available liberals running for office insist that they are for an even stronger US defense budget. This is insanity—mass insanity. We already have more modern weapons than all of the countries in the world together. Even ex-president and peace nobelist Jimmy Carter proudly helped launch a nuclear submarine called—The Jimmy Carter.

We have been convinced that the billions of dollars they have taken from us are necessary in “the war against terrorism”but in a war of the Spiritual against the Material the spiritual will always win. The war mongers know this and their greatest fear is that the peoples of the world will find this out. Every attrocity committed by them has its blowback. Mel Gibson is not the only closet anti-semite that has come out of the closet in reaction to the slaughter of children at Qamas. It is no accident that Joe Leiberman lost to Ned Lamont in the primaries in spite of support from Senators Boxer and Feinstein.. In the November mid term elections the Republicans face the loss of both houses of Congress and there is a national demand for the impeachment of the Bush administration. We might not have to wait for 1998 to impeach the idiot King George. The only way to defeat terrorism is to stop giving Boeing, Northrup, General Dynamics and Halliburton our tax money and shut off the pipe line of our tax money going to Israel. Zionism has joined with the military industrial complex and every new atrocity is steering the Jewish community towards another holocaust. The Jews who are supporting Zionism in their desire for a national home are not different from the Jews who lined up at Auschwitz in the expectation of taking a shower.

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» RE: gramps Posted by: psyopswatcher
shattered by a head injury
Posted by: psyopswatcher on Aug 17, 2006 11:43 AM   
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Check these links, here's how our govt views vets coming home:
$19 million axed for Vets with head injuries


AIVA has a 'write your congressman" sites out:

"Congress is Slashing Funding for Troops' Brain Injury Treatment

In the midst of a war, politicians in Washington are cutting funding for the treatment of a serious injury affecting over 100,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. Supporting the troops should be more than a soundbite. Click here to find out how you can help.

Read more "

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Watada?
Posted by: AnonL on Aug 17, 2006 5:51 PM   
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Why aren't more people talking about this guy? I read something about him a while back in the NY Times, but haven't really heard about him since then. Isn't this kind of a big story? I mean, soldiers are supposed to follow the leader - aren't they supposed to be unthinking lemmings? It's a pretty big deal when you have an officer challenging the President. Especially in an unpopular war, right?

I saw that Wiretap ( http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/ ) covered it a little bit, too, but shouldn't this be plastered across the MSM?

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I gotta good idea
Posted by: nzo on Aug 17, 2006 5:57 PM   
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If Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and countless other political parasites want to go to war that much, let them. Send THEM to where the bullets are flying. Pass a law...make it mandatory for war-inciting politicians to be the first to go, with all the benefits of their new station, such as rat-sh*t flak jackets and useless armor plating.

Then stand back and enjoy the silence of peace.

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» Even better Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle
» RE: ven better Posted by: rockpicker
Where's the numbers
Posted by: owlsliveintrees on Aug 18, 2006 12:26 PM   
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if it's a growing number then where are the statistics? Maybe it's tough to admit that the political slant of this website is completely at odds with the vast majority of American troops.

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Interesting typo
Posted by: sigridsmith on Aug 19, 2006 7:12 AM   
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Interesting typo here. Or was it a typo?

"His boots wedged between the rib cage and the pelvis, blood and human organs squishing out from beneath the souls of his shoes"

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» RE: Interesting typo Posted by: Ouelle
Hell NO...!
Posted by: chabuka on Aug 20, 2006 10:22 AM   
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Hell No, we won't GO...!

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» RE: Hell NO...! Posted by: AFWXMAN
I got more in common
Posted by: scart on Dec 8, 2006 4:29 PM   
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Mr President,
I got more in common,
with the people you're bombin'
than I do,
with you.


The Molotov

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Stand tall, Watada
Posted by: Oanedus on Jan 5, 2007 8:02 PM   
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In Australia, many brave military officers have refused the Prime Minister, John Howard's orders to go to an illegal war for oil.

I applaud Ehren Watada's stand against following crimes against humanity. When the war crimes tribunal starts with the International Criminal Court, Watada will stand tall and be proud, being the only commissioned officer not to be prosecuted for war crimes.
Oanedus

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