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A Split In the Racist Right

By Heidi Beirich and Mark Potok, Intelligence Report. Posted August 16, 2006.


A rift has opened between those who see blacks, Hispanics and Muslims as the primary enemy, and those who blame Jews for every evil.
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For a gathering of people devoted to denouncing the inferiority of blacks and sounding the alarm about civilization-threatening Muslims, the biannual conferences thrown by the New Century Foundation, publisher of the racist newsletter American Renaissance, are decidedly genteel affairs. Men dress in suits and ties, women in formal business attire, and there are no uniformed skinheads or Klansmen to be seen. Large plasma television screens, Starbucks coffee spreads and fancy linens adorn the hotel meeting hall. Epithets have no place here.

Or at least they didn't. At the latest edition of the conferences that began in 1994, held this February at the Hyatt Dulles hotel, a nasty spat broke out that upset the gathering's decorum -- and may even shape the future of the radical right.

It began when David Duke, the former Klan leader and author of Jewish Supremacism, strode to a microphone after French author Guillaume Faye wrapped up a talk vilifying Muslims entitled "The Threat to the West." Duke thanked Faye for remarks that "touched my genes." But then he went one further.

"There is a power in the world that dominates our media, influences our government and that has led to the internal destruction of our will and spirit," Duke said, according to an undisputed account in The Forward newspaper.

"Tell us, tell us," someone in the back yelled.

"I'm not going to say it," Duke replied. Laughter began to fill the room, until a short, angry man leaped from his seat, walked up to Duke and began to curse.

"You fucking Nazi, you've disgraced this meeting!" he said.

And with that, Michael Hart, a Jewish astrophysicist and long-time attendee at American Renaissance conferences, headed for the door. As many as 50 people at the conference began to jeer and point at the rapidly disappearing Hart.

This extraordinary incident marked the beginning of an open rift between those on the radical right who see blacks, Hispanics and Muslims as the primary enemy, and those who say "the Jews" are ultimately behind every evil -- a split that has usually stayed just below the surface but now threatens a leading institution of American extremism. While in the past he has managed to bridge this divide mainly by ignoring it, American Renaissance founder Jared Taylor now must finally come to terms with the split. His dilemma boils down to this: Throw out the anti-Semites and try to build a larger movement with electoral possibilities like those increasingly seen in Britain and Germany; or openly join hands with the very energetic neo-Nazis, even though that means the loss of any remaining shred of respectability.

"These are the makings of a major schism," wrote Shawn Mercer, co-founder and moderator of American Renaissance's AR List, an E-mail group. "If American Renaissance ultimately fails as a result of this donnybrook at the convention, it will be a sad, possibly fatal turn of events for the future of whites."

Jews and the radical right

The traditional enemy of the American radical right, going back to the Civil War and even before, has been the black man. Given the numbers of voters who would be created by enfranchising former slaves -- and the historical fact that blacks outnumbered whites in many southern counties -- that is no surprise. But radical anger also has been directed throughout U.S. history at each new wave of foreign immigrants, and, in both the 19th century and the 20th, that included Jews.

European anti-Semitism made its way across the ocean as well, infecting Americans with ideas about secret Jewish plans for world domination and alleged ritual practices like the murder of Christian children. Increasingly, hatred of Jews filtered into groups like the Klan -- most famously, in 1915, when the group was reborn on the strength of the lynching of Jewish businessman Leo Frank of Atlanta. (Frank was falsely accused of the rape and murder of a 12-year-old girl.)

In the 1920s, auto tycoon Henry Ford published anti-Semitic treatises culminating in the book, The International Jew. In the following decade, Father Charles Coughlin, a radical Catholic, railed against Jews in radio broadcasts heard by millions. There followed a brief lull in anti-Semitism due to revelations about the Nazi genocide, but it wasn't long before Jew-hatred came roaring back.

This was partly due to the spread of Christian Identity, a radical theology that claims that Jews are biologically descended from Satan and are the chief enemy of the white man. This ideology, which increasingly crept into traditionally Christian groups like the Klan, helped to start the broad-based change that has occurred over the last half century or so -- the Nazification of the American radical right. Growing anti-Semitism also reflected the view of many segregationists that Jews were behind the black civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. The bombings of several Southern synagogues by white supremacists underlined this conviction.

In recent decades, however, mainstream American society has rejected anti-Semitism, to the point where it is generally seen as more acceptable to voice ugly views of blacks than Jews. And this has not been lost on certain sectors of the radical right that have become increasingly interested in gaining real political power. Given recent developments in the United States -- especially large-scale Latin American immigration and the threat of radical Islamist terror -- these sectors have wondered if it wasn't better to direct their hate at people of color, rather than Jews who are seen by most Americans as white. Seeing the electoral success of neofascists in Germany and Britain who aim their wrath at dark-skinned immigrants and Muslims generally, many American radical leaders have sought to dispense with anti-Semitism.


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radical right and the Jews
Posted by: yellow on Aug 16, 2006 1:49 AM   
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A split in the far right produced a "respectable" tendency that is "merely" racist though not anti-semitic welcoming Jews as fellow whites. There are naive Jews who think there can be a robust white supremecist fascism in the US which will not ultimately turn agianst them given that the traditions of racism in the US are so much greater than those of anti-semitism. What they fail to see is that the emerging split in the US fascist movement is proof of the inevitability of anti-semitism in ALL fascism. In the US it is merely delayed. Writers like Kevin McDonald, who view Jews as "biologically" driven to undermine all "host" societies as a survival strategy by strongly promoting tolerance thereby weakening societies strongest white elements, are sure to gain much credence among the respectable right like the Regnery/Human Events crowd. Rarely has there been a fascist tendency in history which sustained its respect for the Jews without soon succumbing to the temptation to see them as a rival force and strike out violently against them.

Many European ethnic groups that trace their American roots back to the long 1878-1924 immigration wave, comprise an insecure middle class in great danger of disappearance in our age of globalization. Groups whose contributions to the upbuilding of US society are now precarious and vulnerable. The forces of corporate globalization are making locally controlled economies and national capitalism obsolete and endangered. Frustrated and insecure, these groups find it easy to scapegoat the most vulnerable sectors of society.

As usual, reason doesn't undercut the emotional appeal of fascism. The fact that the ten to twelve million illegals are part of a two-tier job structure that doesn't make US citizens vulnerable to job competition or that Mexican immigrants are only 18% of all immigrants doesn't blunt the credibility of white supremecists. Fear is still the most powerful political idea yet. Ethnic identity is still quite powerful. This is a little understood holdover from the era of early industrial capitalism and the historically recent formation of nation-states as the organizational principle of capitalism. Capitalism's national phase (1790-1973) saw the upbuilding of national tariffs, the growth of industry and modern urban social classes, urbanization, the collapse of the old rural aristocracy (as in England's repeal of the Corn Laws in the 1840s), and the emergence of modern taxation for the building of infrastructure like railroads and ports, the growth of the liberal state, and the rapid growth of national economies. This stage of national capitalism build the modern middle classes, labor parties, and the social and political infrastructure that working and middle classes once relied upon.

With globalization we have a new division of labor which makes national society highly exclusive while it concentrates formerly good paying jobs in low wage regions of the world. Global capitalism becomes financialized as the small inclusive parts of all national societies merge globally as one and is known as what Walter Wriston has called the Bankable Sector. This is about 15% of the world population and is concentrated in the capital rich first world countries. We see how this works all the time as people lose pensions, healthcare benefits, and other perks for which they are expected to contribute to the private financial system. Those who cannot, like the bottom third of all workers, are cut loose to drift about. No more redistribution of income from the rich to the poor. This is what is behind the attacks on social security! Globalization is concentrating the assets and wealth of late monopoly capitalism to the exclusion of most people.

Herbert Marcuse once opined that the liberal state was pregnant with a fascist one. The midwife is capitalist crisis. This bit of Frankfurt School wisdom is still true today!

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» Brilliant coment!We should talk. Posted by: citizenjoe
» RE: radical right and the Jews Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: unbridled capitalism Posted by: Lauren
» RE: unbridled capitalism Posted by: yellow
» RE: radical right and the Jews Posted by: willymack
» RE: Einstein Posted by: Lincoln fan
» UNBRIDLED CAPITALISM Posted by: LMNOP
» hmmm... Posted by: medstudgeek
» RE: hmmm...sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: hmmm...sickofsleaze Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» In addition Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» Goldhagen's 'Executioners' Posted by: srqwolf
» RE: radical right and the Jews Posted by: redstarwraith
» RE: radical right and the Jews Posted by: nonwhiteperson
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» RE: radical right and the Jews Posted by: albrechtkrausse
Bigotry is bigotry
Posted by: Samantha Vimes on Aug 16, 2006 4:14 AM   
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I hope that the fighting inside this group might get some of the members to open up their eyes and see the hate. I'd bet most of the membership is sexist and homophobic, and probably regionalist and classist. You can't expect to pal around with racists and not end up on the receiving end of their hate for one thing or another.

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» RE: Bigotry is bigotry sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: Bigotry is bigotry Posted by: owleyes
» RE: Bigotry is bigotry Posted by: specom
Ahh, The Republican Party, where would hatred be without them?
Posted by: marklar on Aug 16, 2006 4:29 AM   
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This article is revealing and resourceful and right on all fronts. Right-wing Jews never hold back their contempt and hatred of Muslims on the cable news shows and apparently have no problem joining hands with Republican cross burners in hating blacks and browns. It must be nice for them to be able to openly hate people, or to get to wear the figurative white robe with pointy hat and Nazi jackboots, and to join in singing anti-Cumbaya songs with the multitude of Republican hate groups and not fear the ovens of Nazi past.
Lest they ever forget, "never again" is motto and slogan for their played out Holocaust Industry. But apparently now it means never again to us but to hell the rest of the worlds victims of hatred and racist violence. Lebanon redux anyone?
Well let's see, in 1532 the Portuguese govonors of what is today called Brazil expelled all Jews from that nether region of the New World in historys first example of anti-Jewery in the New World. It's a part of history worth remembering because as Republican hate groups flourish in America and become our defacto conscience of one of our two political parties they will eventually have to find new groups to hate and Jews, unfortunately, are an easy target along with Gays and Liberals.
It's not a stretch to imgine a day when men like George W. Bush, and Senator "Macaca" Allen wake up to realize that the entire United States of America, like in California today, will be a place of mixed breeds where the white race is a shrinking minority. Time is a coming when non-whites will have a lot more political clout than they do today - and it can't come soon enough IMHO - and many many Jews are going to regret having alligned themselves with the most powerful Hate group of all, the Republican Party. Hatred is violence and Liberal Jews better wake up and speak out about OCCPATION and gain more control over their future.

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A view from Britian.
Posted by: cordas on Aug 16, 2006 5:04 AM   
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I was rather alarmed to read in this article about the rise of Hate politics in the UK, and just want to clarfiy a couple of things....

1) The hate groups here are currently focusing their hatred on imigrants of all colours (including white) and not on any specific group beyond the fact that they are imigrants.

2) The BNP (British National Party) has even wlecomed British Asians and Indians into their party with even a few black people joining up.

3) It is the failure of our main political parties to deal with the problems of imigration and Europe that have caused this problem as "normal" voters feel they have nowhere else to turn.

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» Right you are, mate Posted by: citizenjoe
it is
Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 16, 2006 6:00 AM   
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If anyone is biologically decended from satan in America it isn't Lieberman or any other Jew: it is Dick Cheney.

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» RE: it is sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
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Wouldn't it be nice.... sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Aug 16, 2006 6:02 AM   
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If both sides of hate would spew their venom at each other instead of their original targets?

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Perhaps the ProIsraeli Lobby will become the target of the American Left, oddly enough
Posted by: russellcole38 on Aug 16, 2006 6:08 AM   
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These are interesting transformations taking place among the far right of American politics. I would like to introduce another topic of interest that might further complicate the new field of political relations. The American Left - not the plutocrats service as elected Democratic Officials, but the grass-roots and the academy are beginning to wake up to the realities of the conflict in the Middle East, and the true nature of the Zionist discourse, which obfuscates the protracted ethnic cleansing and state-sponsored terrorism perpetrated against the Palestinians. For this reason, I would suspect an emerging conflict between the vested interests of the ProIsraeli Lobby and forces on the Left in American politics.

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I Think It's Perfectly Horrid.....
Posted by: sirossisofliver on Aug 16, 2006 7:11 AM   
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that a racist hate group won't allow racist Jews in their club!!! I's perfectly Mad!

By God, I'm sending my lapel pin back to them, and cancelling my membership!

Sir Ossis

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» yes, perfectly perfectly mad! Posted by: Michelle
Eric for Peace
Posted by: bjerko on Aug 16, 2006 7:29 AM   
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"I believe with all my heart that the monks who burned themselves did not aim at the death of the oppressors but only at a change in their policy. Their enemies are not man. They are intolerance, fanaticism, dictatorship, cupidity, hatred and discrimination which lie within the heart of man."

~Thich Nhat Hahn "In Search of the Enemy of Man" (addressed to (the Rev.) Martin Luther King) 1965

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Nazi Self-Defeat
Posted by: thedavid on Aug 16, 2006 7:49 AM   
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Who's heard of Judah Benjamin? European-descended Jews are white, Jewish social progress has been furthered more often by allying with other white groups (usually the more powerful ones of their time and place), and many of America's worst and most effective anti-"nonwhite" racists have been Jews (however one defines "Jew", "of Jewish descent" and/or "practicing Judaism"). By splitting the racist right in this way and by trying to deprive their broader movement of Jewish members the neo-Nazis are further marginalizing themselves and lessening racism's impact. I think it's perfect for the anti-racists: if this fissure didn't exist we'd do well to invent it.

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» No, Jews have a history of leftism Posted by: medstudgeek
Both parties are for creating a Secret Security State.
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Aug 16, 2006 7:50 AM   
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I see little difference between the Democrats and Republicans in issues of war, moving money into the military industrial complex, slaughtering the bill of rights and turning this nation into a secret security state filled with surveillance at all level. Since they vote the same on these areas, the remaining topics are no longer relevant. It's a fascist plutocracy, regardless which group is in power although Democrats would be closer to Benito Mussolini and Republicans are lock step into their leadership (Fuhrers).

The people of this country are ready for authoritarian rule. It's now just an argument of what kind of authoritarian style each prefers. The world has been America's sandbox for almost a century now but we are not playing well with others to the point of loosing all of our friends and hardening our enemies. Countries of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the remainder of the middle east and southeast asia just plain hate us with only exceptions being Australia, Japan and New Zealand. The US has meddled in the affairs of Central and South America for so long and so harshly to the point where the great majority of people of the region don't really care if we live or die.

Two books explain why we are hated for what we have done in the past very well. Stephen Kinzer's "Overthrow" and John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man". Additionally, the Carter doctrine and Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard" are almost identical to the ideology of the neo-conservatives and PNAC.

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Respectabilty?
Posted by: american on Aug 16, 2006 7:57 AM   
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Que pasa? Is this a test? How in the world is it somehow "respectable" to have Jewish academics in these, as you say, "far right" groups and not respectable, for instance, not to have them? Apparently, the "respectablity" stems from whither there are Jews in the organization or not, not whether, Jews or no, there is a certain line of reasoning in the groups philosophising per se - whoever the presiding racial/religious groups may be. I can't believe you based the "respectablity" of the "academics" of these groups not on what is said, per se, but who is saying it, however wrong it may be.

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D Julian
Posted by: D. Julian Terry on Aug 16, 2006 8:14 AM   
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As one who considers himself part of the American left, I am strongly opposed to anti-semitism. I also have criticized the Israeli government's policies regarding their occupation and war in Lebanon. I am also aware that many folks view any opposition to Israeli government policies as anti-semitism. As with our own government, opposition to its policies is not the same as anti-americanism. As Mark Twain once said, "
Patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and supporting your government when it deserves it".

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» RE: D Julian Posted by: dangerouslysane
» RE: D Julian Posted by: yellow
Fascism Originates at the Top
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 16, 2006 8:14 AM   
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COUNTERPUNCH
Chris Floyd
It's Bigger Than the Neo-Cons

"It is the American elite-- pursuing, as always, the enhancement of its own power and privilege, heedless of the consent of the governed or the genuine interests of the American people (or the Palestinian people or the Israeli people or the Lebanese people or the Iraqi people)--that bedevils us. The emergence of the cretinous neo-conservative cult is just a symptom of a deeper moral corruption coursing through the dominant institutions and structures of American society. The body politic is rotting from the head."

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» RE: Fascism Originates at the Top Posted by: dangerouslysane
Purpose of article???
Posted by: alternetleslie on Aug 16, 2006 8:20 AM   
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What is the purpose of this article???

To stir up more hatred?
To acknowledge and approve of hate groups?
To uncover dangers?
To give haters more free advertising?
To laugh at the stupidity of hate?
To educate people about the unfairness of generalities and myths? -- if its this one, then it definitely failed.
How to talk to a bigot? failed again.
To spread old ugly untruths about Jews? Success here!
To spread old ugly untruths about Blacks? Success here!
To discuss the fear, insecurity, ignorance, feelings of inferiority and inadequacy of haters and how making them feel better about themselves in a more positive way may end the hatred. Gads, how awful it must feel to have to rely on only the color of your skin to feel good about yourself. Pathetic. Nope, this article doesn't do that either.

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Maybe...
Posted by: Ktflake on Aug 16, 2006 8:26 AM   
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we'll get lucky and both groups will go to war with each other, thereby saving us the trouble! That would be nice. Racism is racism--a racist Jew is still a racist. They all deserve each other.

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gk
Posted by: grkjr on Aug 16, 2006 8:29 AM   
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I as dismayed that such an article could find its way into AlterNet, but i must admit iam not clear that what is appropriate for a progressive publication is perhaps not the concern of AlterNet.. the last paragraph giving such an organization of minority haters any legitimacy is unfortunate..

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» Hope this helps Posted by: marklar
» Buchanan not a libertarian Posted by: medstudgeek
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» RE: gk Posted by: techphile
This Proves Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt
Posted by: Kym525 on Aug 16, 2006 8:44 AM   
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That racism is purely illogical and anyone who is a racist is an idiot.

Let me get this straight...it's perfectly *acceptable* to hate blacks and latinos, but for some reason hating on Jews is a no-no? So basically we've got two groups of racists who can't agree just to hate everyone who isn't white? No wonder we laugh at bigots...they're stupid! We should laugh at them even more and make them realize just how moronic they truly are. Then we should pray for them because as bad as they are, they need to be shown what true love is, and it's not to be found in racist ideology.

And a word of warning to those Jews who engage in bashing other races - your time will come, and those same people you think are your allies, will quickly revert to what they truly are in their hearts.

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» RE: "Lie down with dogs..." Posted by: dangerouslysane
I only hate racists, i like everyone else
Posted by: sugamretniw on Aug 16, 2006 9:17 AM   
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That's it, I only hate one race and that race is anyone who is a racist. It makes sense if you can hate someone based on where they're from geographically, or the color of their skin, or their religion then i'll just hate people based on their ideology.

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Many types of Jews!
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Aug 16, 2006 9:33 AM   
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A distinction can be made between zionists and Jews. However one needs to be careful because sometimes 'zionist' is just a code word to be 'anti-jew'. More importantly there are differences between the several types of Jews. The Jews themselves make these distinctions between different types of Jews and it is frequently a big issue in all Israeli elections. So I could see the right-wing racist types using these distinctions in their debates. I also could see some Jew who could single out other Jews, of a different type, to be inferior. Of course there are many racist Jews (especially against the arabs but also against the 'goyim') so I could see some Jews getting involved with far-right hate groups. It seems weird but its possible. Remember that all races, religions, and nationalities have kooks and crazy people so it wouldn't surprise me to find racist blacks, anti-jew jews, black-apologist whites, anti-feminist women etc.

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» RE: Many types of Jews! Posted by: techphile
» RE: Many types of Jews! Posted by: albrechtkrausse
David Duke -- a Spent Force
Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Aug 16, 2006 9:45 AM   
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The Chistian Identity movement faithful are like sun dried condoms. You don't like to see them, you sure don't want to explain them to your kids -- but they've done all they're going to do in this world.

They're not going to 'split' the Ford/Lindburgh Republicans off from the Nixon/Reagan gang. If anything they'll help the old-line bigots stay IN the Big Tent by offering them a sideshow freak exhibit of their own and the regular Party Clowns won't have to apologize for them in the Big Top.

I'm a lot more concerned about the "Anti-Zionist, NOT anti-Semitic" carrying on we see on 'our side.'

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I chose sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Aug 16, 2006 9:51 AM   
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as a moniker because I am just that, sick of the sleaze that permeates our society today from the highest levels of goverments and firmly on the left side of the aisle. No, I type sickofsleaze manually each time I post, as a self taught computer user I am not aware of all the tricks of the trade. any opinions I express are entirely my own and done to exercise my freedom of speech while I am still free to do so because each day it seems I read of another instance of its curtailing.

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Profound Stupidity
Posted by: Pirate1 on Aug 16, 2006 10:33 AM   
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For anyone in this day and age with what we have learned about the journey of our distant ancestors out of Africa and eventually around the world, slowly evolving as they did, different complexions and statures as was biologically determined in response to the new environments encountered to still see people with darker or lighter skin color as "other" is just stupid. These are people who when presented a garden of healthy vegetables, choose to continue eating the same worm ridden carrion of their willfully ignorant forebears regardless of all evidence of the wrongness of so doing, and all in the name of some toxic, mega-church encouraged belief system or tradition.

Duke and his ilk world wide are idiots and those who agree with them are idiots also. No better arguement need be made for scientific education.

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White supremicists are making themselves modern
Posted by: Bobsays on Aug 16, 2006 10:40 AM   
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I wouldn't get too smug about the white supremicist movement and philosophy. While many in that movement right now are bumbling fools, it won't be long before clever elements emerge. Let me explain.

As society becomes more and more diverse, a knowing alliegence with your race group will become more important. This will expand on the already well entrenched trends of whites clustering together in schools, neighbourhoods and social organisations that they feel comfortable with.

White supremicists will start to use new technologies to encourage this trend. They will become very sophisticated at pin pointing neighbourhoods with high crime, and with high non-white populations. They will then direct through marketing companies whites to other areas.

In the political realm, they will use more and more coded language like 'selection', 'excellence', 'choice', etc. to direct whites to majority white areas.

I would be alert to this, because there are many people who will not get with the programme in the ever-more diverse society. They will use every means available to work, play and live with other whites. A great example of this in motion is today's South Africa. While official racism has disappeared, whites are very sophisticated at moving around to always stay in majority white areas. It can be funny to watch, as neighbourhoods flip at a furious pace.

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» Too Late Posted by: VisionQuest
» RE: Too Late Posted by: MrWebster
Here's a secret...
Posted by: axandrade on Aug 16, 2006 10:57 AM   
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Jesus was a Jew!!!

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» RE: Here's a secret... Posted by: zoomorph
» RE: Here's a secret... Posted by: techphile
Darn all that hating getting confusing
Posted by: Fade on Aug 16, 2006 11:13 AM   
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Okay so Jew Hating Supremacists who hate blacks cant get along with the Jew Supremacists who hate blacks. Darn, all that hating must get confusing.

I have faith that they will put aside their differences, if only temporarily, in order to promote more Christian and Jewish hate of Muslims in the name of terror.

THEN, they can pick up on the whole "Are Jews really Satans children? vs. Are Goyim really here to serve the Jews?"

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NeoCon, NeoNazi, NeoZionist
Posted by: Fade on Aug 16, 2006 11:17 AM   
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You say tomato...

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The Perfect Solution to Racism
Posted by: Kym525 on Aug 16, 2006 3:17 PM   
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I think that every man and woman of color - be they black, latino, middle eastern, asian, whatever - should marry and procreate with as many white people as possible. That way, we get rid of these outdated notions of white superiority. Talk about a nice 'brown' planet...

Let's be honest here. We all know that one of the bases for racism in this country is the white man's irrational fear of the 'big black penis'. Most white men spend a ridiculous amount of time being petrified of a white woman finding a black man (or any other race of men) physically attractive (and most white women are the same way). Get past all the rhetoric about how blacks and other minorities are supposedly 'destroying' white America, and what you'll actually find is this fear of being rendered obsolete.

And racist Jews...they should be doubly ashamed of themselves.

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» No Whites Allowed Posted by: Ouelle
Sephardic Jews/Adam and Eve
Posted by: drmeow on Aug 16, 2006 3:22 PM   
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Let's see - racist American Jews hate "people of color." This includes, presumably, anyone with dark/non-white skin (does it include light skinned Asians?). There are generally considered to be two groups of Jews, European (Ashkenazic) Jews and the Mediterranean/African (Sephardim and Mizrachim) Jews (generally referred to as Sephardic Jews). Many Sephardic Jews are "people of color" - African and Arab. Does this mean racist Jews hate all non-Ashkenaizic Jews as well as the Blacks, Mexicans, Indians (the list goes on). Also, those who converted to Judiasm not withstanding, aren't all Jews descended from a single tribe of ... North Africa/Arab Jews? Does that mean racist Jews hate their own ancestors?

If the first humans were Adam and Eve and all other humans are descended from those two, aren't all races from the same source?

The irrationality of racism boggles my mind!

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» RE: Sephardic Jews/Adam and Eve Posted by: albrechtkrausse
To many black folks who will read this article it will be no suprise
Posted by: techphile on Aug 16, 2006 4:20 PM   
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That some jewish people hate us is nothing new, its' funny though to hear of right wing jewish folks breaking bread and embracing racists and at the same time asking the white supremacists to include them. I can see it now, some of them will gleefully tak part in a ;ynching or two and then ask the person the victim as well as their fellow lynchers to never forget the holocaust.

At times that I have been approached by white folks and a few jewish people too who have wanted to talk to me about black anti semitism I first tell them ethiopians and arabs are semites too, and ask if they are more interested in hatred of jewish people. Then I point out that for most of us jews are just a white ethnic group. And they might as well ask us why we hate latvians.

Most jews just like all other white people will believe that they are superior to black, brown, or yellow people so this is not suprising at all.

If most muslims were white they would also not be despised so much and as a former muslim I have lost track of the many times when people would assume that the problems in the middle east affected muslims in Kano, Mombassa, Conakry or India.

For many african & african american muslims we know that the arabs look down on us and just like the jews in the white supremacist movement have discovered hatred of the other is still alive and well.

JUst confirms for me what I always suspected that white folks will always band together when pocos (people of colour) are around,

Lastlt as long as there are black or latino people in the US there will never be enough support for things like universal health care, better k-university education, or any type of socialism.

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