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Will Lieberman's Loss Push Dems to the Right?

By Matt Stoller, MyDD.com. Posted August 14, 2006.


With the war in Lebanon ending and Lieberman's defeat showing that there's a political constituency for a sane multilateral approach to foreign policy, Democrats have a chance to stake out a progressive foreign policy path.

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The reverberations from the Lieberman-Lamont primary are now rattling around the world, as foreign policy elites digest its implications. Next month, it's going to be clear just how much certain Democrats are pinned between their donor base and the new progressive voting mood that beat down Lieberman. While one would think that the Democratic Party will become more progressive on foreign policy in response to the loss, there are counterbalancing forces that suggest that leading Democrats will actually move to a more right-wing posture, while making a few limp symbolic gestures to the progressives. Calling for Rumsfeld's resignation is one such gesture, since Kerry did it in 2004, and it is another version of the "incompetence dodge." The political calculation is that Lieberman didn't lose because he was right-wing; he lost because he was a singularly awful politician. As such, there's no need to move leftward since it's fairly easy to avoid a Lieberman-esque political backlash.

Now, the flip side is that the right-wing neocon leader of the party lost even though he carried the advantage of incumbency and outspent his opponent by an almost 2:1 margin, and it's pretty hard to argue with that. So there's a debate over the meaning of the Lamont victory, and nothing accelerates a debate like a political fight. And while there are many possible places to have this fight, by far the most likely arenda in which to watch the different forces at play will be John Bolton's confirmation vote in the Senate in September. We'll learn just how committed the Democratic Party insiders are to opposing Bush's foreign policy objectives in the wake of Ned Lamont's stunning victory.

Here's a bit of a recap of who Bolton is, and why this fight matters. John Bolton, an heir to Jesse Helms' pugnaciously nationalistic ideology, was successfully filibustered in 2005 by the Senate when Bush tried to appoint him as U.N. ambassador. It was the first sign that the Democratic Party was willing to fight to change the disastrously unilateral foreign policy of the Bush administration. Still, while Bolton wasn't confirmed, Bush did select him to the position as a recess appointee. As a result, Bolton must be renominated and confirmed by the Senate. The loss was a crushing blow to Bush's political momentum, and 2005 was a horrible political year for Bush.

Now, during the first filibuster, Lieberman didn't take a position for or against Bolton, and since Bolton didn't come up for a vote, he didn't have to. But indications suggest that he would have voted for him. [update: As John Mills pointed out in the comments, the Thinkprogress post is wrong. Lieberman voted against cloture twice (roll call vote here and here), though he was heavily targeted by the White House as a potential supporter.] With Lieberman's defeat by Lamont and his consequent move towards a campaign based on fear-mongering and capturing Republican votes, I imagine that he'll become a reliable pro-Bolton vote. But there's a bit more to it than that.

You see, both Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton are considering switching their vote on Bolton, and there's probably a bunch of Senators who will follow them. Schumer in particular has been awful, publicly saying that there will probably be no filibuster of Bolton. So here we have a clear progressive electoral victory over the most right-wing Democrat, combined with a horrible year for Bush and a clearly disastrous foreign policy, and yet his nominee to the U.N. has an easier path to nomination. Why would Democrats even consider ratifying Bush's foreign policy through Bolton?

Many of you will not like this answer, just as I didn't like discovering it, but the reality is that right-wing wealthy neoconservatives, whose pet project is Israel, are the ones who are forcing the Democrats to the right. After 9/11, a special breed of incredibly wealthy coastal elites that I call 'Bloomberg Democrats' after their desire to have Michael Bloomberg run on a third-party presidential unity ticket went sharply to the right in their foreign policy thinking. Lieberman is part of this group, always supportive of Israeli hawkishness, but whose fearful instincts were unleashed by 9/11. Torture, lies, dead soldiers, a collapse of American moral authority -- all of these pale in comparison to Islamofascism, but it's cool, because they are pro-choice and made a lot of money. That's the type.

While originally distinct from the main branch of neoconservatives whose focus was Iraq, the Bloomberg Democrats have gradually conflated their sympathies towards Israel with a bloody desire to get rid of the American "honest broker" status in the Middle East, and have become fully integrated into the neoconservative mainstream. While once they were just pro-Israel as I am, like many progressive Jews I moved left, while Bloomberg Democrats have graduated to become full-fledged neoconservative sociopaths. Even as the Israeli public itself is no longer particularly enthusiastic about its Lebanese incursion, AIPAC's hold on Congress prevents any real discussion of American Israeli interests in any context but that of Israel getting 100 percent blind support for anything it wants to do, even if what it wants to do is spy on America. It's the 'with us or against us' mindset.

This neocon PAC money is incredibly pervasive among both parties, and that it's now being used to push Bolton significantly changes the battle lines of his renomination. Israel wasn't a factor in Bolton's first nomination; now Bolton and Israel are seen as the same thing, and the AIPAC neocons have moved in their artillery behind his nomination. Schumer's amazingly successful DSCC fundraising has come at least in some part from this neoconservative money, and Sen. Clinton is making the rounds. Her latest fundraiser was with Norpac, a neoconservative Israel-focused PAC that has lent support to Bush/Cheney '04, Rick Santorum, Jon Kyl, Mike Ferguson, Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Steny Hoyer, Conrad Burns, Bob Menendez and Nancy Pelosi. Even though you might think that the Lieberman defeat would embolden the Democrats, the Bolton fight and the Lieberman loss have been linked together explicitly by neo-conservative PACs, and prominent orthodox right-wing Jewish leaders are calling on Jews to abandon the Democratic Party for being insufficiently supportive of Israel's failed war in Lebanon.

The sad hijacking of Jewish political activism by right-wing neoconservative crazies is complete. If you're not with Lieberman, if you're not with Bolton, if you're not with the far right of the Israeli political spectrum, you're not pro-Israel. I have to say it's pretty frustrating. Every time I find a political obstacle to a more progressive American posture abroad, it seems like there's another more hidden and intractable one behind it. It's shocking to me that there are no effective progressive Jewish groups focusing on foreign policy. The only ones I've seen are pathetic, wonkified and largely unwilling to deal with the reality of a crazy domestic right-wing leadership structure.

Anyway, with the war in Lebanon ending and Lieberman's defeat showing that there's a political constituency for a sane multilateral approach to foreign policy, the Democratic Party has a real opportunity on its hands to stake out a progressive foreign policy path. That starts with Bolton. Or rather, Bolton will show which Democrats really understand what Connecticut Democrats were trying to say, and which ones are only listening, despite all the populist outrage in the hinterland, to the Beltway elite.

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Hey Matt, short answer, no.
Posted by: marklar on Aug 14, 2006 4:46 AM   
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Stop asking silly questions. Lieberloser is going down to his place as an obscure footnote in history kicking and screaming like a spoiled little f*****g brat dragged away from the toy department with his mothers pinch on his ear. He forgot that all poltics are local and he thought he was a bigger player than he really was. No one will take him seriously anymore.

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Jewish right wing is alive and kicking
Posted by: Madnessfilm on Aug 14, 2006 4:55 AM   
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Matt makes some great points, as a Jew and a progressive I am torn between my love for the concept of a state of Israel and my outrage and its conduct and incursion into Lebanon. Worse the American Jewish lobby seems to want a fight to the end more than the Israelis do. Peace activists in Israel like Gush Shalom and the ones here in the US , Jewish Voices for Peace and Tikkun seem to not be well funded and get the deserved media attention that the Bloombergs of this world can afford. I hope in my lifetime to be able to travel to the land of my birth, Egypt and not be afraid to say I am a Jew, without the scorn of being identified with the Israeli governement. But more than that I hope that being a progressive in America means I can also proudly say I am a Jew and not feel conflicted.

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This neocon PAC money is incredibly pervasive among both parties,
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Aug 14, 2006 4:58 AM   
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This isn't the only money pervading both parties. Click on Open Secrets. You will find that the pharmaceutical, defense, finance, and other industries contribute generously to both parties. It is this money that makes our votes worthless. The corporate establishment has bought its way into power and can't be voted out. The march to the right led by the Republicans and trailed closely by the Democrats has been going on for decades.

I can only see three legal ways to break the control that the campaign contributors have over both parties. The first of course is campaign and lobbying law reforms. This has a Catch 22. There is no way that effective reforms can be made on a national level while the contributors are in power. The second is a third party. This is impractible no third party can get enough support to win, if for no other reason than that most people don't believe they can win.

Many people vote for a third party as a protest against both major parties. This isn't an effective protest because the protest isn't explicit. This brings us to the third way. This is a new and unique grassroots movement. It is untried but the strategy is based on the successful tactics of the labor unions. The strategy is this: each member tells both parties his/her most important issue and that he/she won't vote for a candidate who doesn't support that issue. He/she also tells both parties that if neither party supports that issue he/she will cast a write-in protest vote for Honest Abe.

Join The Lincoln Initiative today. Make your voice heard before the election; your vote has no power after it's cast. Now is the time to act. There are less than 100 days left.

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Third party
Posted by: Lauren on Aug 14, 2006 9:09 AM   
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I think the time is right for a third party alternative on all the issues listed in the post above, plus the drug war.

The moral high ground has been abandoned by both parties.

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» RE: Third party Posted by: larry278
» RE: Third party Posted by: Steve Adair
» RE: Third party Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Third party Posted by: Lincoln fan
Too late, again
Posted by: Earthie on Aug 14, 2006 10:32 AM   
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Now is not the time for a third party, that time has passed as pertains to this election. The next two years will once again be "time for a third party", to organize and do the grassroots work necessary to identify viable candidates and effectively campaign for them.

For this election, we are once again at a point where it's going to be between the Democrat and the Republican in most elections. Vote for the best candidate. If neither of them stands out and there's a third party with a chance, who looks good, vote that way. If it seems like a tossup, vote Democratic to put more opposition to Bush in office. True, we know that being a Democrat does not necessarily mean you will oppose the Bush agenda, but there's a greater likelihood of it and we need to do whatever we can to stop these madmen fom doing more damage.

And don't wait for a third party to offer you an alternative, get active and make it happen for the next election.

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Left/Right?
Posted by: SufiLizard on Aug 14, 2006 10:35 AM   
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I read this article after just finishing a letter to my Republican dad about a couple of articles he sent me.

One of the articles had the typical right-wing spin of the Lieberman defeat and I was trying to explain to dad that the viewpoint that the Democratic Party is being taken over by a small group of extremists is absolutely ridiculous. (I would argue that it already HAS been taken over and now we're trying to take it back).

I was trying to point out to him that Lieberman (anti-choice) was strongly supported by Bill Clinton (and really Hillary too) (pro-choice).

And by this fact, I tried to show that the abortion issue obviously isn't considered as important by either the Clintons or Lieberman as some other issues. So what are the issues they have in common, that would appear to be much more important to them?

I made a long list, but the blind support for the Israeli government was one of the first on my list.

I think some of the other comments here hit on some of the others of my list.

To me it seems that traditional Repubican and Democratic values have become completely irrelevant. You have both Republicans and Democrats shilling for the neo-con agenda while the media spinmeisters keep polarizing the grass roots of both sides on a couple of wedge issues, ensuring the people continue to support the neo-con Republicans or the neo-con Democrats because of one or two issues.

Meanwhile the neo-cons pocket more and more of our tax dollars and take away more and more of our rights.

It's amazing when I talk to my dad who is a STAUNCH Republican, and yet we agree on so many issues. My list of grievances against Lieberman are mostly things he would oppose too, but since he gets his information from the standard right-wing sources, he sees it merely as a bunch of lefty-extremists who are out to get Lieberman because they want to take over the Democratic party and make it communist.

The article he sent actually used the term "Stalinist tactics" in describing what happened to Lieberman.

But as I wrote to my father, it started becoming even clearer to me that the rank-and-file Democrats and rank-and-file Republicans have so much more in common than we have differences. On economic issues and on our rights I think we are completely in line, but because of our biased media we've been convinced of the abject evil of the other side. Many Republicans also tend to believe in environmental protections, but they've been convinced by "their" media that "Environmentalists" what to take away our freedoms and not really protect the environment.

And we on the left are convinced that they are all a bunch of racist, homophob rednecks (which, sadly many are) but they also share our disdain for the corporate dominance of our political system and our lives.

But keeping us from finding our common ground is the primary function of our current mainstream media and political leaders.

I long for the day that we can get back to legitimate debate about the Republican and Democratic approaches to solving problems instead of our current dysfunctional democracy.

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» RE: Left/Right? Posted by: Lincoln fan
Fight! Fight!
Posted by: Spyder on Aug 14, 2006 11:04 AM   
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When are American TV viewers, talk-radio listeners, and voters going to wake up and think for themselves? Do they not realize that most of modern media pundits are nothing more than people who yell, "Fight! Fight!" to gather a crowd around a playground scuffle? The more right-wing oriented these screamers are, the louder they scream. You would think America was about to enter WW III and lose just because that Rovian shill, Lieberman, did. The tide has finally turned, folks. It's time to change the channel.

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It's Not Too Late For A Third Party Here!
Posted by: wcscheurer on Aug 14, 2006 12:01 PM   
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Just to let everyone know -- it's not too late for a third-party Congressional run here in Illinois.

Check out our IL-8th District campaign at www.WinWithBill.com, a real choice. We have just the kind of alternative people are calling for in these comments.

With respect to Matt's article, check out the "international" section of our "other issues" page for a sane foreign policy platform.

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gathaiga
Posted by: gathaiga on Aug 14, 2006 12:36 PM   
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WAR IN LEBANON ENDING??? I suggest you read Robert Fisk's article in today's Independent.

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A Troll couldn't have written a more discouraging article
Posted by: Christie on Aug 14, 2006 12:42 PM   
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Matt Stoller says, "both Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton {the NY Senators} are considering switching their vote on Bolton, and there's probably a bunch of Senators who will follow them." So, the two NY Senators are "thinking of switching their votes." I urge all NY residents, Jewish and non-Jewish alike, to write and tell them how disastrous that support for Bush's foreign policy would be for America and, therefore, for their own political future. The rest of us should email our own Senators and tell them that they should consider supporting a Bolton appointment only at their own political peril. That is one vote that I would consider ended any chance I would ever vote for that candidate again. I hope they get that message from a large number of individuals writing personally. Remember, it is generally assumed that ONE such letter statistically represents one thousand voters' sentiments. (Think positively. 100 letters: one hundred thousand voters' sentiments.)

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This is a pretty pathetic analysis of what's going on
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Aug 14, 2006 2:21 PM   
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For a much better article, see
The Rovian Political Ploy and Why It Will No Longer Oppress America
by Anthony Wade


Here's the opener:

"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed."....Steve Biko

"Such is the case with the current powers that be in this country. Make no mistake about it America, the GOP is desperate. They see the president's approval rating at 33% on good days and know that the American people disapprove of the republican rubber stamp congress even more. More importantly, and this is what we all have to keep in mind this November, they fear losing total control. If the Democratic Party was to take control of even one house of Congress, then the party is over for the GOP"

That is exactly what they are worried about - and their corporate media allies are just as worried. A quick survey of the corporate 5 reveals a desperate pro-Lieberman push; CBS seems the least biased, but ABC and CNN are giving a lot of space to Lieberman promotion puff pieces. This article whines about the big-name Democrats, but the rest of the party needs to learn not to follow those clowns. There are other Liebermans out there too - in California, the spelling for Lieberman is "Feinstein". If these Democrats want to keep their jobs, they need to stop licking the toes of their corporate sponsors and start listening to what the public is telling them.

The fact is that Karl Rove and friends have no morality whatsoever, regardless of their 'family values' propaganda. Take Cheney - the bastard knew that the British were investigating a plot and pressured them to push up the news release for no other reason then to get headlines in the US.

People like Lamont are promoting policies that will benefit everyone in the country, not just the uber-rich billionaires and their lapdog pets. Now is not the time to vote for 3rd parties; it's time to support the progressive Democrats in the fight against the neocons and the international fossil fuel cartels.

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BE REALISTIC
Posted by: sofla100 on Aug 14, 2006 2:59 PM   
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This article is not bad in that it points out the dangerous situation with elites calling the shots and the big money involved. Sometimes on the left, things are a bit muddied I am afraid by TOO MUCH IDEALISM, lefties who say, "well, it is not suppose to be this way because I said so,..., or it is really like,...." But I argue you must be realistic. The article intends to point out that another choice and direction is possible. Now, I argue Iraq is not popular, the public will support an anti-war candidate, but can we get one who can really win??? The elites are trying hard to shut things down, to give us Repuba tards and if its Hillary vs. McCain, its garbage. Throw Nader in and you just give the election to McCain. Remember, be realistic. What is needed is to break the neo-con right-wing Israel cabal, and let a real candidate step forward. Gore is one possibility, but where is he???

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Mean further right?
Posted by: talkville on Aug 14, 2006 7:00 PM   
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Let's get real, two Rights don't make a Left.

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IF THE DEMS DON'T GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME, THEY'RE DONE FOR!
Posted by: krose on Aug 14, 2006 9:32 PM   
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AND I WILL BE ONE WHO WILL BE VOTING WITH A "THIRD PARTY," IF NEED BE!

As a life-long Democrat, I am sick to death of the "WIMPY" DEMS! It is about time that they take a stand against Bush, and against the "war-mongering" that has been going on, including the war-mongering that has been going on by Israel! It is time to call a spade, a "spade!"

It is up to our government to take care of making "OUR COUNTRY" safer, and that is NOT what has been happening from EITHER party. It is about time that it does, and that it becomes responsive to "WE THE PEOPLE," rather than "THEY THE CORPORATIONS!"

I SAY, IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE, A VERY, BIG CHANGE!

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GORE/FEINGOLD '08
Posted by: krose on Aug 14, 2006 9:39 PM   
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GORE/FEINGOLD '08

GORE/FEINGOLD '08

GORE/FEINGOLD '08

GORE/FEINGOLD '08

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» Love It! Posted by: DataDoc
How about Al Gore running as a Green?
Posted by: axolotl_helix on Aug 15, 2006 1:39 AM   
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Without Lieberman's useless ass weighing him down, and without having to suck up to the Democratic party's corporate power structure, he could worry less about playing politics and more about doing what he actually believes in. (trying to save the planet.) He seems to be well liked by nearly all liberals, and not hated by conservatives the way Hillary is, so he has a chance of winning on name recognition regardless of party.

He could spend the first few days- before he repeals all of Bush's Neocon Enabling Acts- using his Unitary Executive powers to have several high-up members of the current regime rounded up for supporting terrorism, tried in secret military courts, then "renditioned" off to Egypt to do with as they please. Yes, that would be a bit of a fucked up thing to do, but it would also be poetic justice on an epic scale. And it could go a long way toward restoring worldwide goodwill toward the US when he rolls back the laws to the "pre-9/11 mindset" as soon as all the major war criminals and conspirators were disposed of.

Ok, nice daydream there- now back to reality.

I know both of the major parties are corrupt, but I have to support the Democrats- especially in the near future- for the pragmatic reason that they are the only ones who can really take down the Republicans. And the Republicans must go. Once Democrats get a majority, the indictments will start flying around- even if it's just for the sake of bullshit partisanism. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Then, when the GOP is finally dead, with a wooden stake through its shriveled black heart and 16 tons of concrete poured over its casket, then we can worry about getting rid of the Democrats.

Finally, when the Greens and Libertarians outnumber the Democrats in Washington, it will be time for me to start campaigning for the Greens.

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