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Lamont's Victory and Lieberman's Insult to Democracy

By David Sirota, AlterNet. Posted August 9, 2006.


Ned Lamont's crushing defeat of Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut Senate primary shows that voters are hungry for change -- but Lieberman still fights for politics as usual.
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At the end of every gut-wrenching horror movie, when the hero seems finally to have vanquished the enemy, there is always that last moment where the enemy, lying lifeless on the floor, finds a last gasp to fire off one final round, usually dealing a fatal blow to one of the good guys.

In the incredible story that concluded Tuesday night in Connecticut, Democratic U.S. Senate nominee Ned Lamont was the successful hero, representing the hopes and dreams of ordinary citizens by mounting a truly grassroots campaign against Joe Lieberman's massive war chest of corporate cash and universal support from Washington, D.C.'s cabal of lobbyists, pundits and insiders. Yet, in his last coughing gasps, Lieberman is now saying he will, in fact, fire off that last spiteful round -- right into the gut of the Democratic Party.

That's right -- Lieberman is announcing he will move forward with plans to abuse loopholes in Connecticut's election laws, ignore Democratic Party voters who voted in our democratic process for change, and mount a Lieberman for Lieberman Independent bid. This, from the guy who went on television after the 2004 presidential race (which was closer than the Connecticut primary) to declare that "there's no prizes for second place in American politics."

You read that right -- the senator who says there's "no prizes for second place" and who has in the final days of Democratic primary campaigning been running around claiming that he gets the message and realizes he no longer should enable George W. Bush's right-wing agenda is now saying that he will try to rely on hard-core Republican voters and moneymen in a general election contest in a desperate attempt to hold on to power.

Understand how insulting this is: Connecticut taxpayers just spent a large sum of money to hold a democratic primary election in a country founded on small-d democratic principles. An 18-year incumbent who had 100-percent name ID and a $12 million war chest (thanks to, among others, Joe's good friends in the pharmaceutical and financial services industries) was unable to win that election. Now, instead of respecting small-d democracy or the party he has spent the last week pledging his devotion to, he's behaving like a Third World autocrat who ignores democracy and running to hard-core GOP voters and fundraisers in Connecticut and begging them to help him hold on to his job in the Senate club. This undemocratic chicanery from a man who has long justified his support for the Iraq war by saying he has a supposedly heartfelt devotion to spreading democracy.

Make no mistake about it -- be prepared for Lieberman, the Enron lobbyists, corporate lawyers, Establishment pundits and other assorted characters in the Washington brothel to run out immediately and trumpet how incredible it was that Lieberman got so close, insist that Lieberman's loss was supposedly the doing of anti-Semites, and demand that every god-fearing, terrorist-hating American support Lieberman's selfish independent candidacy or the republic will not be able to go on.

What they want to do is pretend that Lieberman hasn't spent 18 years in the Senate, didn't have every single advantage, didn't outspend his opponent with a massive corporate-funded war chest, and was, instead, the courageous underdog who supposedly did not arrogantly ignore mainstream public opinion with his stands pushing the Iraq war, Social Security privatization and corporate-written trade deals that sold out American jobs.

That storyline provides a convenient excuse to justify Lieberman ignoring Connecticut voters, Connecticut taxpayers who funded the election and all the democratic principles this country is supposed to be based on. It provides a consultant-packaged excuse for Lieberman to ignore voters and insult the Democratic Party by running as a party of one and potentially throwing the general election to the Republican Party.

But as Ezra Klein astutely notes, "If this gets spun in the next few days as a microscopic margin so infinitesimal as to be mere statistical error, try and keep in mind the towering mandate the media agreed Bush had after his three -- not four -- percent win over Kerry." I'll put it in exact language that Lieberman himself can understand: It's time for Joe Lieberman and his friends in the Washington Establishment who distrust Ned Lamont and ordinary voters to acknowledge that Ned is now the Democratic Party's nominee for U.S. Senate, and that we as Democrats undermine our nominee's credibility at our party and our democracy's peril.

Lieberman's concession speech tonight spitefully announcing that he will abandon the Democratic Party that he has spent the last week transparently pledging his fealty to is classic Lieberman. You may recall that after he was crushed in the New Hampshire primary, he proudly boasted that "we are in a three-way split decision for third place" -- as if he really thought voters were stupid enough to think that was a good thing and that he was well on his way to winning the nomination. Similarly, today he is claiming that the Democratic Party primary election is just the "first half" of the election process -- again, thinking voters are so stupid they don't see that what he's really doing is giving the big middle finger to American democracy.

But voters do see what's going on -- and that's why Lieberman, an 18-year incumbent who outspent his opponent, was handed a crushing defeat tonight: because ordinary people realize that Joe Lieberman and the Washington Establishment he represents has for too long been allowed to sell out their constituents and this country as a whole.

Ned Lamont is the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in Connecticut. Every single Democratic office holder in this country (that means you: Kerry, Feingold, Clinton, Edwards, Warner, et al.) has an obligation to respect the Democratic Party primary election that took place tonight, lest they too go on record as saying they see Democratic Party voters and America's democratic process as an afterthought in comparison to their own personal political ambitions. (Good news: Lieberman's DLC colleague Sen. Evan Bayh immediately announced after the primary his endorsement of Lamont).

Likewise, Democratic leaders in Congress now have an obligation to remove Lieberman from his committee assignments, and cut off Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee resources, now that he has officially left the Democratic Party.

This is an incredible victory tonight. Ordinary people showed that no politician -- even a snake like Lieberman with every single advantage -- is above American democracy. Though Lieberman and the lobbyists who are backing him would like everyone to forget about democracy, Ned Lamont tonight showed that ordinary people in this country still have power, and that no Senate seat is the exclusive property of any one individual.

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David Sirota is the author of "Hostile Takeover: How Big Money and Corruption Conquered Our Government--and How We Take It Back" (Crown, 2006).

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Sounds About Right
Posted by: NoPCZone on Aug 8, 2006 11:00 PM   
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Unless something really stupid happens, CT will have a real Democrat in the seat. Add soon-to-be Sen Sanders from VT and things are starting to get interesting. It's about time.

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Keep fighting the good fight
Posted by: doctorsquared on Aug 8, 2006 11:25 PM   
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This is the first piece of good news I have heard in a while. Serves that Repug-fellating slimeball right.

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» RE: Keep fighting the good fight sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
democracy
Posted by: rue on Aug 8, 2006 11:52 PM   
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first off, let me say, i do not like lieberman - he does not, and never has represented my views, and i see him as part of the old guard of democrats that has robbed the party of it's spine.

however, his deciding to run as an independent is NOT a threat to democracy. it is democracy in action. many of us progressive's were happy when jeffords jumped the republican ship and turned independent - we would be hypocritical to say the lieberman does not have the same right.

when the elections roll around again, hopefully lamont will win again and show lieberman that his time is through. but let democracy work, and don't deny the fool the right to his errand.

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» JEFFORDS *WON* HIS ELECTIONS Posted by: jimsenter
» Threats to Democracy Posted by: VisionQuest
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Failure of electoral politics
Posted by: autonomie on Aug 9, 2006 12:19 AM   
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This is a failure of electoral politics for at least two reasons:

1) Voters were ignored by the supposed "representative"

2) More to the core of electoral politics, this contest was decided primarily by talk but not action. That is to say, Lieberman's voting record mirrors that of his fellow Democrats. He's not much different than the House Minority Leader Harry Reid, apart from the fact that Reid is anti-choice!

So what's the problem? Simply put, the tangible -- Lieberman's voting record -- was not the issue. What was at stake was his ass-kissing the president verbally. His ass-kissing along actual voting lines is shared with his fellow Democrats.

Don't get me wrong, Lieberman's a pile and I'm glad he's gone. I'm just interested in how politicians act and not how they talk.

People didn't really vote for different policies. They just want their politicians to talk differently and that is all.

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» RE: Failure of electoral politics Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Failure of electoral politics Posted by: Lincoln fan
» It was the War Stupid! Posted by: Fade
» Autonomie Is Right Posted by: rwa
congratulations to hard working and thinking people!
Posted by: concerned Canadian on Aug 9, 2006 12:52 AM   
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Desire for a real step towards real change was the catalyst and action was the means. Good people fought the good fight and my sincerest wish for my good neighbours is that this fight continue until the last vote of 2008 is in. And even then the guard must not be let down as you all know who have done so well. A great step and continued blessings for that always.

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Could Lamont's win = -1 Democrat Senate seat?
Posted by: MTreich on Aug 9, 2006 1:20 AM   
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Some polls have shown that if Lieberman runs as an Independent he has a chance of winning.

Now if Lieberman wins his Senate seat back as an Independent that will be one less Democrat seat in the Senate. If we are to win back the majority from the Republicans this one seat could be a deal breaker.

But what if once back in the Senate Lieberman changed his party back to Democrat? (Didn't someone else do this not too long ago from Dem to Rep?) That would be some interesting politics.

Just some of my thoughts on the issue. I am curious to see what others think.

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Dead Donkey
Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 9, 2006 2:06 AM   
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Every once in a while I find myself wondering why I left the democratic party six years ago to begin with. Thank goodness for Joe Lieberman! He's always there to remind me. One would think that he would swallow his pride, wish Ned Lamont good luck and then do everythin humanly possible to assure that he is elected in November. Not our Joe! He has announced that he will run as an independent, thereby gauranteeing a republican victory in November. What a pathetic crybaby! Now you can all see what a "loyal party man" he's been all along.

With democrats like Joe Lieberman, who the hell needs republicans?

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant"

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prove
Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 9, 2006 3:24 AM   
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Leiberman is working very hard to prove that he is an asshole to the minority that doesn't already think he is an asshole.

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assorted comments
Posted by: anothername on Aug 9, 2006 3:49 AM   
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"Partisan polarization," according to Lieberman, is why he lost. Well, gosh darn those primaries. Let's just do away with those partisan primary elections and open up the general election to all comers.

In response to the comment above about democracy allowing and welcoming independent candidates, I noted nothing in the essay as I quickly scanned through it, or in any other venue, that said Lieberman did not have the right or option to run as an independent. Indeed, since he apparently feels quite strongly that he was representing the greater number of Connecticut citizens, instead of a few radicals who dislike wars and occupations based on questionable actions, he even has a duty to run as an independent. The objection comes to the "talk," as another commentator noted.

Lieberman invokes the Democratic Party when it is in his interest and then dumps the party when it is not in his interest. Apparently, being a Democrat is a tool and not a value to Lieberman. That causes discomfort among voters, too, and is why Lieberman's choice to run as an independent is open to ridicule. As for the rest of the "talk," even if Lieberman does cast votes in line with many Democrats, his verbal "butt kissing" of Pres. Bush generates publicity and support for Bush's policies. What people say, not just their actions, matters.

Lieberman's decision to run as an independent, and the language he has chosen to use in discussing that decision, reminds me, uncomfortably, of elections in Palestine and elsewhere. It is the idea that if voters go against what Lieberman or America desire, the reason is because voters who are just too naive or too ignorant to understand what their votes mean. I would have respected Lieberman and his decision to run as an independent if he stood up and said that he respected the voice of the primary voters but that he believes strongly that he was representing the majority of Connecticut and that was why he felt a need to run as an independent. He has said that, somewhat, during the campaign, but that should have been the simple message he gave upon concession, not a tirade about partisanship, the direction of which is the very purpose of a political party's primary.

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» RE: assorted comments Posted by: sheena2u
"Snake": My Goodness, Sirota, You Read Your Bible
Posted by: coldeye on Aug 9, 2006 3:59 AM   
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Sirota bestows the name snake on Lieberman. Yes I get the metaphor (although snakes are unfairly maligned as treacherous, that slander being a hangover of bigoted Christian myth-tsk, tsk, Sirota, apologize to snakes!).

Lieberman was up front about his going for the seat as an Independent. He views this race as a battle between two very different factions of the Democratic Party (although if you put defense and Iraq aside, Lamont and Lieberman would have very similar views). In 1948 Henry Wallace claimed the Democratic Party under Truman had abandoned FDR's New Deal and cooexistence with the Soviet Union. Wallace, a Democratic icon in his own right, formed the Progressive Party with the crucial assistance of the Communist Party USA(then still a functioning organism) and ran as a third party candidate. He was clobbereed. It was not until 1972 that the left exerted any real influence in the Democratic Party again.

The primary had a solid turnout in Connecticut. But more voters will turn out in November. The Left never can get over 2000 and the insane charge of theft of that election. If the Left loves democracy that much, it should have no problem with an opportunity to take on Joe twice and drub him again.

He even will have one hand tied behind his back, as some conservatives will stick with the Republican nominee. So Joe will have to rely on a coaltion of Democrats(many of whom don't like the war but respect Joe), independents(who could care less about Sirota's sudden love of partisan poltics and rules) and moderate Republicans(e.g., Lieberman is a staunch environment champion).

Lieberman has already announced that he will vote, as Jeffords does, with the Democrats to organize the Senate. So Sirota's new concern for the Democratic Party need not be a reason to stick with Lamont. The Democrats will not lose this seat.

The hypocrisy over this election is astounding: if Lieberman won, does anyone believe most Lamont voters would choose party loyalty and vote for Joe in November? Hell,no. who knows, they might vote Green or write in Lamont, or just stay home. they have a right to do that and Joe has a right to represent the majority of Connecticut voters who do not want this Vanderbilt-sired grandson of a Communist apologist, Corliss Lamont, with a negligible record of public service and a background in the sleazy cable TV industry, to make life and death decisions in the US Senate.

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» RE:If the Left loves democracy Posted by: Lincoln fan
» Joe Lieberman: green hero Posted by: coldeye
Frankly, LIEberman ought to be shot for pushing it like a SORE LOSER that he really is.
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 9, 2006 4:08 AM   
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I guess Lamont will have to knock him down again come November but at this point I think it's not all that difficult. JL and the GOP are nothing but the worst form of sellouts the constituents of CT know they can't afford any longer.

P.S.: Hey JL, try running for Prime Minister of Israel where you belong ! You're a major insult to honest and peaceful Jews and you're no different from Adolf Hitler !

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» apples aren't oranges Posted by: coldeye
» He is not a Nazi Posted by: coldeye
Joe is counting on the Bushpig vote
Posted by: owlbear1 on Aug 9, 2006 4:09 AM   
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and the clueless Dems to win.

A clueless Bushpig Dem...


Yep, thats Joe alright.

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Great!
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Aug 9, 2006 4:08 AM   
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It is nice to see a member of the Lesser of the Evils Party win. But I suggest that before you get your hopes too high you visit Open Secrets. There you will find that the same industries, pharmaceutical, defense, financial, trial lawyers, etc. invest millions in the campaigns of Democrats too. If campaign contributions corrupt Republicans they just as surely corrupt Democrats. Does it make a big difference to the working class which party serves the corporate establishment?

We can break the control of our government by big business if we take control of the platforms of both parties. Join The Lincoln Initiative a grassroots strategy (not an organization) to make "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" a reality.
Bob Reichenbach
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» Bitter much, Coldeye? Posted by: Fade
» No. why do you think so? Posted by: coldeye
Sore loser Joe!
Posted by: colinmeister on Aug 9, 2006 4:14 AM   
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So "Joementum" didn't work, and Dubya's favorite Democrat is no longer a Democrat. His latest outbursts are the signs of him being a sore loser, nothing more, nothing less. A bit like the child who says "Let me score a goal, or I'll take my ball away"

Joe's gone, now let's hope the voters in New York can dump Dubya's other war supporter, Hilary Clinton.

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» RE: Sore loser Joe! Posted by: Steve Adair
» RE: Sore loser Joe! Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Sore loser Joe! Posted by: colinmeister
Don't get excited, Repubtards still rule the roost and own E-voting results
Posted by: marklar on Aug 9, 2006 4:46 AM   
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One victory over a Republicrat incumbent in a primary is not what I'd call turning the tide against the Repubtard Revolution. Yes, it's great to see Lieberman slithering in his own cesspool like the sleazy sbnake he is. It's great to see him crying like a child forced to leave a store without Mom buying him that toy he so desperatley needs to have. But remember, in most places E-Voting machines are going to decide how the November election turn out, not the voters.

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Dead Donkey
Posted by: goldennugget on Aug 9, 2006 4:56 AM   
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Geez! Doesn't anyone remember that other guy - what's his name - in a third party who tossed the election to some republican-or-other? . . . Oh yeah, Nader!

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"Liberal" Media already marginalizing Lamont, bloggers
Posted by: sausage on Aug 9, 2006 5:40 AM   
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Just watched the bits and pieces of ABC's Good Morning America and NBC's Today.

Both networks extensively interviewed loser Joe Lieberman, mentioned Ned Lamont almost as an afterthought and portrayed bloggers as fringe-dwellers, lunatics and "out-of-touch" with "mainstream America," whatever that's supposed to mean.

This was how they brought down George McGovern in 1972.

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» Spot on Posted by: srqwolf
Lieberman's politics
Posted by: bookwoman on Aug 9, 2006 5:42 AM   
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Those here who say that Joe Lieberman is not a Democrat are so wrong. Joe has proven his roots over and over through the years. However, unlike those politicians who are backing away from their vote for war in 2002, he still is standing by his word. It may be that his wife still has relatives in Israel where she was born. Whatever the reason, the rest of his political stands are clearly those of a Democrat or what being a Democrat used to mean.

He is declaring this morning to run, in November, as an Independent. As the Democratic Party has changed over the past few years to a group which is too liberal for the taste of the majority of the people in this country and one where the politicians run away from any stand or issue which leave them open to Republican attacks, Joe has stayed a Democrat. Perhaps his new role as an Independent is really truer today to the place where he stands on the political continuum.

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Party Pooper
Posted by: Lamo on Aug 9, 2006 5:46 AM   
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Joe Lieberman/Ralph Nader on the Red/Green ticket.

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» RE: Party Pooper Posted by: Basenjis
Pile of Dung A versus Pile of Dung B
Posted by: igoeja on Aug 9, 2006 5:51 AM   
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Lieberman was horrible, but Lamont might really be not much better. Lieberman is a shill for the corporations, but Lamont is likely to push policies that favor the wealthy and corporate, just wrapped in PR that sounds palatable and egalitarian.

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JUSTICE!! - But wait until the Israel lobby gets a hold of Lamont
Posted by: chuckville on Aug 9, 2006 6:24 AM   
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Ole Joe is gone. Praise hallejuliah!

However, count the days until his buddies (read: funders) in AIPAC/ADL/B'nai Brith start screaming that Lamont is an "Anti-Semite." Mark my words.

Joe lost not only because he sold out his own party, was a sycophant to our naked emperor, and a shameless warmonger, but he also forgot that he was elected to represent the people of Connecticutt, not Israel.

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Adios and good riddance
Posted by: hapibeli on Aug 9, 2006 6:52 AM   
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Bye bye Gentleman Joe. Glad you have to go. Hope that more of your ilk, will soon have to hit the silk. Can't think of much more to say, 'cept REAL democracy may see the light of day, when the right wing and Republican lapdogs like you are on your way.

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» Arf Arf Posted by: coldeye
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Not sad to see him go
Posted by: SufiLizard on Aug 9, 2006 7:26 AM   
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I really despised Lieberman, but he sticks to his guns on the war unlike other Republicrats who are trying to sound like Democrats again now that Bush's ineptitude (much of which they supported or enabled) is being discovered as the misguided failure that it is by the general population.

If Lieberman is a snake, then I'm even more concerned about chameleons like Hillary and Evan Bayh who are suddenly talking a good game, but have backed Bush on numerous issues that have had disasterous consequences.

Unlike these folks at least Lieberman had the political courage to stand by his support of the president.

Now we just need some candidates with that kind of courage but the intelligence and values to stand behind "good" decisions rather than Joe's bad ones.

I don't know a lot about Lamont, but I have to say I am automatically skepitcal of rich guys AND the cable industry. That doesn't automatically make him a bad guy, but it certainly gives him some large obstacles to overcome in trying to represent the vast majority of us who aren't rich.

At least the cable industry is in opposition to the big telecoms who seem to have WAY too much political influence these days. But I don't really buy into that whole "my enemy's enemy" line of thinking. Look at what a mess of the world that kind of thinking made during the Cold War.

All-in-all, though I have to say I view Lieberman's defeat as a good thing. At least in the big picture it sends a powerful message even if the actual details are less encouraging.

I think people are waking up to the fact that some core Democratic values actually DO resonate with most Americans, it's just that many Democrats like Lieberman have chosen to turn their backs on those issues in favor of a couple of divisive wedge issues. (And I'm not saying Dems should back away from abortion and gay rights, but if they actually supported working people again, they might win back some of those votes from people who may not share the enlightened view on those wedge issues).

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» RE: Not sad to see him go Posted by: chuckville
» RE: Not sad to see him go Posted by: chuckville
Remember Joe in 2000
Posted by: JSquercia on Aug 9, 2006 7:48 AM   
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Let's not forget that in the 2000 election Joe decided to wear both a belt and Suspenders by Running for both his Senate seat and As VP .
Of course had he been the VP the then Republican Governor of Conneticut would have been able to appoint his successor as Senator . That Governor would have been John Rowland
Joe worries FIRST and Foremost about JOE

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What Does Lamont's Victory REALLY mean?
Posted by: questionthemark1 on Aug 9, 2006 8:16 AM   
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Many have been quick to say that this indicates that the country likes there Democrats like they like their coffee; strong and liberal. Many have championed Lamont as the representative of a people who want a real opposition party in Democrats, not just Republican-lite. This primary, they say, will set the tone for the rest of the country come the November mid-term elections.

Don't get so giddy. Yet.

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This is simply irresponsible
Posted by: truthinator on Aug 9, 2006 8:22 AM   
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I'm somewhere left of left when it comes to my political views, but to report that Lieberman needs to step down just because he lost the Dem primary is irresponsible at best. If we (meaning the citizens of this country) want a truly democratic process to prevail, we should be encouraging people to run as independents, not chastizing them for stepping outside of the oppressive 1-party-parading-as-2-parties system that we currently have.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's Lieberman. I don't like him as a "leader" any more than I like any of the other power-hungry plutocrats that have co-opted our government, but he has the right to run and, hopefully, lose. This outrage at his refusal to give up stinks of desperation and fear. Why not devote your energy to helping Lieberman lose, not to limiting the democratic process?

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VIDEO MASH-UP OF LIEBERMAN
Posted by: hotpotatomash on Aug 9, 2006 8:42 AM   
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Great column. Also happens to be the main point of a video-mashup I posted Monday. Lieberman has no shame.

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Alternet, Relax the Hyperbole
Posted by: obstreperousness on Aug 9, 2006 9:27 AM   
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At the top of this article, the author begins with "Ned Lamont's crushing defeat of Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut Senate primary shows that voters are hungry for change..."

Granted, Mr. Lieberman might be emotionally crushed by his defeat. But electorally speaking, the margin of victory was narrow. According to the NYTimes, with 98% of precincts reporting, Lamont had won with 51.8% of the vote. If 1.8% is "crushing", what adjectives do we use to describe, say, an 18% margin? A 38% margin?
Why the hyperbole? Why not just characterize it accurately?

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» RE: Alternet, Relax the Hyperbole Posted by: picaresque
Yeah!!!! Some good news! What does this mean?
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Aug 9, 2006 9:46 AM   
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This is so awesome! An example to the entire nation that people are sick of war. Let's just hope it catches on. The closeness of this contest reflects the large division in the Democrat party. It shows that there is enough real liberals out there to start a third party, a peace party, a progressive party. However, although things won't get better until progressives can have representation in this country, I fear that this country is still not ready for progressiveness; look at the split. Look at people's mentality. Look at their lack of critical thinking skills and inability to question that which is fed to them on a daily basis through the mainstream press. About half of those who give a damn enough to vote are repugnicans, and half of democrats are center, and half are progressive. So, if the much-needed third party were to form, I fear that the repugnicans would win all the elections. On the other hand, a few states would get some progressive third-party representatives in, which would get some federal representation and influence, but it would not be enough to get things changed. But, if we could get a few progressives in and they could make their voices heard, perhaps the nation would slowly wake up from their ignorant slumber and start using their minds. It's quite obvious from the slim margin shown here that the democrat party does not represent half of the democrats, as they feel forced to vote democrat as the lesser of two evils; they feel as though they have no choice in the matter and that is sad. Progressives got lucky this time, and this slim margin is rather discouraging. However, maybe people will see this and feel more okay with taking the progressive risk.

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CALLING ALL PAID RIGHT-WING "TROLL" PROPAGANDISTS!
Posted by: krose on Aug 9, 2006 9:50 AM   
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TIME TO GET YOUR RESUMES UPDATED.

3 MORE MONTHS, MORE OR LESS, OF FULL-TIME WORK LEFT.

THEN, IT'S "WHOSE GUESS" AS TO WHERE YOU'LL GO.

JOBS ARE SCARCE THESE DAYS.

YOUR GUY HAS PUT US INTO A RECESSION, YOU KNOW.

SO, ENJOY IT WHILE YOU HAVE IT, BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE IT

VERY, VERY SOON!

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Beware of troll tactics
Posted by: Ian B. on Aug 9, 2006 9:56 AM   
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If you think the Lamont supporters are worse than the Republican party and the Bush regime, you are not now, nor have you ever been, a Democrat. If you are blind to the harm that the Bush regime and their enablers, such as Lieberman, are doing to this country, you are not now, nor have you ever been, a Democrat. Expect to see many posts and letters to the editor between now and November by Republican activists pretending to be moderate Democrats. I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of this troll tactic. Republicans pretending to be Democrats writing shrill posts and letters making specious complaints about how the Democratic party has gone too far to the left. This is a peculiar claim in light of how far to the right the Republican party has gone. It also contradicts polling evidence that shows the American public supporting Democrats over Republicans by a large margin even on the issue of terrorism. My old job, now outsourced to the Philippines (thanks to the "free" trade policies supported by Lieberman), was as a newspaper reader for a press-clipping company. I've read every newspaper in two states. Every election cycle one sees hundreds of formulaic fake "I used to be a Democrat" letters to the editor written by Republican party activists, that predictably spout Republican talking points and false characterizations of Democrats.

Democrats, don't let these shallow contrived Republican party tricks distract, unnerve or confuse you. You can always recognize these fake posts and letters to the editor by their shrill tone and use of Republican talking points. Expose them every time you see them.

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» RE: Exactly Correct. Posted by: doinaheckuvajob
Remove Independent Lieberman from Democrat Senate Committee Assignments
Posted by: jjjhein on Aug 9, 2006 10:19 AM   
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Call Senator Reed or Durbin, minority leaders in the Senate, and demand that the no-longer democrat senator from Connecticut be removed from his committe assignments and be replaced by a 100% DEMOCRAT.

Capitol Number: 888 355 3588

Pass it on.

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» excellent suggestion Posted by: thoughtcriminal
» Get to Washington much? Posted by: coldeye
any press is good press
Posted by: Gregor on Aug 9, 2006 10:43 AM   
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I just hope this is the last Lieberman article we see...After all, by keeping his name in the news, we are in fact, supporting his campaign. Let's say the bloker lost and get on with our lives and rah rah Lamont!

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What's the Opposite of "Back To the Future" ? 'Cause this is it.
Posted by: beautykilledbeast on Aug 9, 2006 11:00 AM   
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linked text

Yesterday we Democrats have done what we do best.

We took down one of our own.

I don't know how any Democrat can feel anything other than a hangover this morning.

Issue One: If this smells to you like the 1968 New Hampshire primary, don't be too happy. I'm not that old, but I carry every scar from every misfortune to befall the Democratic party from that tribulation until now. And I don't want to relive the last forty years all over again.

Issue Two: Do you hear laughter? It's the Republicans, who've turned one Democrat against another - again. While their agenda advances, and does so with or without Joe Lieberman, we're preoccupied with sideshows. If God's Own Party has anything to fear this November, it's not from us.

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cejay42
Posted by: cejay42 on Aug 9, 2006 11:26 AM   
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Interesting to see spin from the progressiveliberal side, very little of what I have seen so far on this election and victory is reflected in this commentary. Spun instead to inflame, not to inform, I want to think we can do better without getting our feet so muddy we look like the 'others'.

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funny first paragraph!
Posted by: Michelle on Aug 9, 2006 11:30 AM   
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That has got to be the most vivid first paragraph of any story I have seen on this issue. Every time I think of Lieberman now I will see that image.

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Great news, but we shall just have to see ...
Posted by: Aurality on Aug 9, 2006 11:45 AM   
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Liberman = corporate career politician.
Lamont = independantly-wealthy upstart.

Honestly, I think Liberman's an overly patronizing, status-quo war-monger; and I'm very glad he lost this primary.

On the other hand, Lamont is very rich, and although I give him major props for taking a humanitarian stand on ending this futile and god-forsaken war, if he's elected I'd be curious to see how things play out on the private Biz side of his policies. Def not to say that he's in the hands of big corporations, at all— it's just that politicians who are rich sometimes tend to have an unhealthy realtionship with money ... But, I guess we shall see. That's my word, peeacce.

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Democrat talking points
Posted by: Liberalandproudofit on Aug 9, 2006 11:45 AM   
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The only foreign terrorist attack on U.S. soil took place on 9/11!

Remember - the ONLY attack by Foreign terrorist occured during the REPUBLICAN party domination!

Remember - the ONLY attack by Foreign terrorist occured during the REPUBLICAN party domination!

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If only Lieberman had gone on the Colbert Report he might
Posted by: jwg on Aug 9, 2006 11:52 AM   
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have made a bigger fool of his self.

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Do We Still Shoot Horses?
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Aug 9, 2006 11:59 AM   
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For most Americans, 2006 hasn't been too good of a political year. But some encouraging news from the Nutmeg State happened when Joseph Lieberman was beaten in a democratic primary.
Now Lieberman is acting like a injured thoroughbred trying to finish the race when he knows it's over. You can see that the horse can't gallop around the political race track. It's worse than Barbaro; it's painful to watch.
Do we still shoot horses? Lieberman won't be worth too much in the democratic stable.

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Do We Still Shoot Horses?
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Aug 9, 2006 11:59 AM   
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For most Americans, 2006 hasn't been too good of a political year. But some encouraging news from the Nutmeg State happened when Joseph Lieberman was beaten in a democratic primary.
Now Lieberman is acting like a injured thoroughbred trying to finish the race when he knows it's over. You can see that the horse can't gallop around the political race track. It's worse than Barbaro; it's painful to watch.
Do we still shoot horses? Lieberman won't be worth too much in the democratic stable.

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Beware!
Posted by: jende on Aug 9, 2006 1:03 PM   
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We may discover that Lamont is just another Republican in ass clothing.

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Strawman?
Posted by: VisionQuest on Aug 9, 2006 1:11 PM   
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Nowhere in his article does Sirota say that Lieberman has no right to run as an Independent. He said it was dishonorable and dishonest of Lieberman to accept Democratic resources and support, pledge his loyalty to the Democratic party, and then announce an independent candidacy as soon as he lost the Democratic primary. This analysis is dead-on, and would be equally valid if we were talking about the Republicans, the Greens, or the Pink-Polka-Dotted Kangaroo Party. Any party that fails to turn its back on such a person would quickly cease to exist, and turning their backs on Lieberman and actively opposing his candidacy--not his right to run--is all that Sirota suggested the Dems do.

So I'm not sure why people keep raising this strawman about Lieberman's "option to run as an Independent," which no one has questioned, or continue to assert that a conservative Democrat losing a Democratic primary and then running as an Independent somehow represents a meaningful deviation from the two-party system. A real deviation would have occurred if Lieberman had simply ran as an Independent as soon as he realized that neither party effectively represented the policies that he believes in. Apparently that didn't occur, since if he had won the primary, Lieberman presumably would still be running as a Democrat. How then has he challenged the Repub-Dem paradigm?

His decision to run as an Independent now has nothing to do with any belief in democracy (which surely involves accepting the results of an honestly conducted election--which he said he will not do) nor any commitment to challenging the two party system, which he has in no way questioned.

I have to assume that the campaign to undermine Lamont among liberals and progressives has issued it's talking points, and they are simply making their way to AlterNet (always prefaced of course by "I'm no fan of Lieberman, but"):

"Lieberman has a right to run as an Independent! His doing so represents democracy in action!"

"Lamont--a Greenwich millionaire--represents the lunatic left fringe of the Democratic party, and will polarize the national debate!"

"Are the Democrats afraid of a little competition?"

"Lieberman is polling ahead of Lamont, and Lamont cannot win the general election!"

Any more?

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» Sirota Posted by: susannunes
» RE: Strawman? Posted by: truthinator
Still not 'representative' of the people
Posted by: DCostello on Aug 9, 2006 2:13 PM   
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So, rich white guy number 2 beat rich white guy number 1. Big deal. In the end, it's still a rich white guy that's going to DC. Even in CT, which isn't a poor state, do either of the rich white guys actually 'represent' the people they're supposed to represent? Does the average citizen of CT look like Joe or Ned? I don't think so. I think maybe the folks down Westport way, sure, but that leaves out Bridgeport, and last I knew there were a lot more people in Bridgeport - but a lot more $$$ in Westport. So who does the rich white guy represent?

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» Oh no? Posted by: coldeye
roadrunner15
Posted by: bspencer on Aug 9, 2006 3:03 PM   
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lieberman's comments only serve to point out the need for (1).Publicly financed elections &
(2)Term limits for senators,congress,etc.

These politicians get too used to their fame & fortune and forget they are elected as " Public Servents"

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» Money Is Still the King Posted by: coldeye
Could this mean there is actually a god?
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Aug 9, 2006 7:25 PM   
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Could Liberman's loss mean that there might really be a god?
One who has finally got the message that putting Shrub in power was not a good thing after all?

Could this be the beginning of Him correcting His mistakes or cruel jokes?

Joe to drown your sorrows go and swap some tongue with the Chimp and officially become a Repuke so you can lose again in the fall.

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Sirota
Posted by: susannunes on Aug 9, 2006 8:04 PM   
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isn't even smart enough to realize the irony in his claim Lieberman is somehow a blight on "democracy."

Lieberman has EVERY RIGHT to run for re-election, even as an independent. But Sirota, known as one of the most blatantly dishonest of all of the "left" bloggers, KNOWS that Connecticut is heavy weighed with independent voters and Republicans who will turn out in droves to vote for Joe and slaughter the zillionaire empty suit the blogosphere has peddled all of these months.

I am not a huge Joe fan, but I despise the bloggers for their insane purge quest and basically help the Republicans along.

The nutroots, as I have called them before Marshall Wittmann used the term, ARE a blight on the electoral process because of their ignorance of poltiics in general.

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lawn signs told the story
Posted by: ggmurray on Aug 9, 2006 8:09 PM   
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I happened to drive from RI to CT on Tuesday to pick up my grandchildren for a visit. I couldn't help noticing the many campaign lawn signs as I drove through Connecticut. But I did note a trend. The ones for Lamott were on people's lawns. The ones for Lieberman were on public property - or nobody's lawn. Also the Lieberman signs seemed to greatly outnumber the Lamott signs. From the primary results posted today, it sounds like people just really want a change. Me too.

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LIEberman
Posted by: Reader11722 on Aug 9, 2006 9:18 PM   
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Now that LIEberman has been defeated because of his love of wars that benefit Israel, we can expect a false-flag operation within the US before the election. Despite the Republican attitude that LIEberman's defeat means nothing, they are scared. This was a referendum on the war, on the Patriot Act, on illegal wire-taps, on censorship of protestors, on pressuring books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, and on 2 illegal wars. The One Worlders are afraid of what happened to LIEberman and will most likely explode a nuke in the US before the elections and scare the masses to return them to power.
Last link (before Google Books is nuked):
America Deceived - Book

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JOE LIEBERMAN'S FATHER-IN- LAW WAS A NAZI PILOT
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Aug 9, 2006 9:44 PM   
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How many of you remember that Joe Lieberman's father-in-law was a NAZI PILOT? IT'S TRUE! TALK ABOUT 'BIRDS OF A FEATHER, LIEBERMAN IS AS SICK AS BUSH AND NEEDS TO EXPOSED FOR WHAT HE IS!

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mrjoeman
Posted by: mrjoeman on Aug 9, 2006 11:32 PM   
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This election lose by "both sides Joe," shows me how close this two party system really is. The fact that Rove and Bush are willing to bend over to help someone on the other side of the aisle is just outrageous! This should show all how stacked the deck is. Bush NEEDED afew ball players on the otherside to control and nullify most real legislation! let's all salute the new Demopublicans... Stifling debate and controling the subject!!!

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The new silent majority
Posted by: kencohen on Aug 10, 2006 5:50 AM   
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Despite the Republicans, and now Lieberman (no surprise) tactics to cast any one opposed to their (his) beliefs as a liberal extremist, the Lamont victory perhaps is heralding a new silent majority voice saying enough of the right wing extremism, arrogant unilateralism and incompetent governance. The citizens of Connecticut tend to be quite mainstream and solidly committed to American values and lifestyle. To call these people "the liberal fringe" is downright insulting.
Mr. Lieberman has demonstrated that his "ego" not his conscience has forced his bid as an independent candidate. His attack strategy is further proof that he acts and thinks like the Bush Republicans. His fair weather loyalty to the Democratic Party IS a measure of his character, and that character appears shallow and lacking. Putting his own selfish desires first, refusing to accept the outcome of the Party that had been loyal to him and to jeopardize the senate seat (a Naderism) demonstrates poor character and being sore loser.
A man of decent morals and character would graciously accept the defeat and work within his party to rid the Nation of the Bush blight.

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Food-stamp republicans
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 10, 2006 7:35 AM   
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Republican pundits are warning of the resurgence of the McGovernite wing of the democratic party and predicting it will destroy the party, America and perhaps the whole world.

“In 1972, McGovern transformed his party with, among other things, strict racial and gender quotas for convention delegates. He made his party antiwar, pro-abortion and thoroughly urban. He later acknowledged that things didn't turn out as he hoped, quipping that he had opened the doors of the Democratic Party and "20 million people walked out."

That’s true and since the lunch bucket democrats dumped the democratic party, they have become unemployed and underemployed food-stamp republicans. So it looks like things didn't turn out as they hoped either. Though traditional blue-collar jobs have disappeared, many of their children have found employment in Iraq.

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sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Aug 10, 2006 8:41 AM   
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Tho delighted Lieberman lost, I am worried as an independen

t he will pull enough Democratic and Independent voters to elect the Republican candidate as Nader was a spoiler in Florida

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Is there now a spec of a chance a god exists?
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Aug 10, 2006 9:04 AM   
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Could Liberman's loss mean that there might really be a god?

A god who has finally got the message that putting Shrub in power was not a good thing after all?

Could this be the beginning of god correcting His or Her mistakes or cruel jokes?

Joe, to drown your sorrows, go and swap some more tongue with the Chimp and officially become a Repuke so you can lose again in the fall.

If you run as an "independent," you will only split the Repuke vote and ensure Lamont wins...so I hope you do. Like you were EVER independent!

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Jim Lobe Sums It Up
Posted by: rwa on Aug 10, 2006 1:40 PM   
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"In 2002, for example, he became honorary co-chair of the Committee to Liberate Iraq, an advocacy group created just a few months before the US invasion by Kristol, Perle, former Central Intelligence Agency director James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, among other prominent neo-conservatives. In 1998, he co-sponsored with Republican Senator John McCain the Iraq Liberation Act, which made the ouster of Saddam Hussein official US policy.

Since 2004, he has served as co-chair of the Committee on the Present Danger, another influential, mainly neo-conservative group created, in Lieberman's words, to "form a bipartisan citizens' army, which is ready to fight a war of ideas against our Islamist terrorist enemies, and to send a clear signal that their strategy to deceive, demoralize and divide America will not succeed". Other board members are Woolsey, Perle, Cohen and Gaffney.

As the Iraq war became increasingly unpopular over the past year, Lieberman, to the frustration and fury of many of his party colleagues, served as the administration's chief Democratic defender.

In a column he published in the Wall Street Journal last autumn - and which was subsequently cited repeatedly by top administration officials, including Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney - he criticized fellow Democrats who favored withdrawal, arguing that "we undermine the president's credibility at our nation's peril".

Indeed, so favorably was Lieberman regarded in the White House that, as he was leaving the well of the House of Representatives after his 2005 state of the union address, Bush embraced Lieberman and planted a kiss on his cheek.

For most Connecticut Democrats, it turned out to be the kiss of death. "

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The truth about Democrats' momentum after Lamont's victory
Posted by: doinaheckuvajob on Aug 11, 2006 12:33 AM   
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We've heard all day here from Rethug Trolls and pretend DLC-style fake moderate Dems crying horrible crocodile tears about how Dems have doomed themselves by winning a race running an anti-war candidate. So what does the evidence, the facts, actually show at dailykos.com:

"First post-Tuesday congressional poll
by kos
Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 04:35:29 PM PDT

Remember how Lamont's victory on Tuesday is dooming the Democrats to November defeat? Remember?

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. Aug. 8-9, 2006. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.

"Thinking ahead to this November's elections, if the congressional election were held today, would you vote for the Democratic candidate in your district or the Republican candidate in your district?" [7/11-7/12 results in parenthesis]

Democrat: 48 (42)
Republican: 30 (34)
Unsure: 22 (25)

And this poll is by the same outfit that went overboard with its anti-Democratic propaganda on Tuesday. Note that this isn't a generic congressional ballot. The poll specifically asks people how they plan on voting in their own districts. The "congress sucks except for my guy" dynamic isn't coming into play here. Bowers:

I am pretty sure this is the largest lead Democrats have held in a generic ballot poll since at least 1982 (and maybe before then). Also, both the Democratic increase and the Republican decrease are outside the margin or error in this poll. And Republicans are at 30%? Should they even be allowed into debates with numbers like that?...

At 30 percent, it's clear only the wacko fringes still support the Republican Party."

Yet the Rethug Trolls swoop down here to tell us over and over we're big losers when we win. Go figure. Why do you think they do that? Because they love us on the Left, and hate to see us screw up again like we did during Vietnam? If you think that, I've heard of a Nigerian Prince who really needs your bank account #.

Folks, they hate it when we win, and they will resort to their batterer style talking points to try to divide us, discourage us, and put us back in our place. Don't buy their crap, it won't even hold up longer than the cheapest plastic crap you could buy at a $1 store.

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Lieberman is acting like a scorned teenage Jewish princess
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 12, 2006 4:38 AM   
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"The question now is how deep into the gutter Mr. Lieberman’s ego will drag him."
by Paul Krugman

Mr. Lieberman is acting more and more like a scorned teenage Jewish princess. His lust for power thwarted, he ought to devote himself to his secondary interest, his lust for wealth. Republicans will be more than willing to use and compensate him as an ugly stick to beat Democrats over the head.

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albiegf13
Posted by: albiegf13 on Aug 12, 2006 11:26 AM   
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How about entitlement, can't Lieb claim his seat in the senate as a right of entitlement...?

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JOE SEEMS REALLY SCARED
Posted by: Roverton on Aug 12, 2006 2:14 PM   
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Like Leiberman promised someone important and dangerous that he'd be a shoe-in.

A lot of angry investors now.

Hey Joe, two words:

Lecture circuit...

and count your lucky-ass stars.

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Good Job David!
Posted by: Vani on Aug 13, 2006 1:48 AM   
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Thanks for standing up for all of us.

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Cut Mr. Joe Bossman Liberman some slack
Posted by: Mountain Oracle on Aug 26, 2006 1:12 PM   
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Shame doesn't work. It turns the oppressed rabid.

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