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Military Waste In Our Drinking Water
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Most of us are vaguely aware that war devastates the environment abroad. The Vietnamese Red Cross counts 150,000 children whose birth defects were caused by their parents' exposure to Agent Orange. Cancer rates in Iraq are soaring as a result of depleted uranium left from the Gulf War. But what about closer to home?
Today the U.S. military generates over one-third of our nation's toxic waste, which it disposes of very poorly. The military is one of the most widespread violators of environmental laws. People made ill by this toxic waste are, in effect, victims of war. But they are rarely acknowledged as such.
On Sept. 11, 2001, we were living together in New York City. In the months following the attack on the World Trade Center, the media and government routinely informed a fearful citizenry of the importance of clean drinking water. Terrorists, they warned, might contaminate public sources with arsenic. We were instructed to purchase Evian along with our duct tape.
In 2003, when the Defense Department sought (and later received) exemptions from America's main environmental laws, the irony dawned on us. The military was given license to pollute air and water, dispose of used munitions, and endanger wildlife with impunity. The Defense Department is willing to poison the very citizens it is supposed to protect in the cause of national security.
Our family knows of something much more dangerous than arsenic in the public aquifers: trichloroethylene, or TCE, a known carcinogen in laboratory animals and the most widespread industrial contaminant in American drinking water.
Disturbingly common
Last week a study was released by the National Academy of Sciences, raising already substantial concerns about the cancer risks and other health hazards associated with exposure to TCE, a solvent used in adhesives, paint and spot removers that is also "widely used to remove grease from metal parts in airplanes and to clean fuel lines at missile sites." The report confirms a 2001 EPA document linking TCE to kidney cancer, reproductive and developmental damage, impaired neurological function, autoimmune disease and other ailments in human beings.
The report has been garnering some publicity, but not as much as it deserves. TCE contamination is disturbingly common, especially in the air, soil and water around military bases. Nationwide millions of Americans are using what Rep. Maurice D. Hinchey, D-NY, has called "TCE-laden drinking water." The Associated Press reports that the chemical has been found at about 60 percent of the nation's worst contaminated sites in the Superfund cleanup program.
"The committee found that the evidence on carcinogenic risk and other health hazards from exposure to trichloroethylene has strengthened since 2001," the study says. "Hundreds of waste sites are contaminated with trichloroethylene, and it is well-documented that individuals in many communities are exposed to the chemical, with associated health risks."
The report urges the EPA to amend its assessment of the threat TCE poses, an action that could lead to stricter regulations. Currently the EPA limits TCE to no more than five parts per billion parts of drinking water. Stricter regulation could force the government to require more thorough cleanups at military and other sites and lower the number to one part per billion.
The EPA found it impossible to take such action back in 2001, because, according to the Associated Press, the agency was "blocked from elevating its assessment of the chemical's risks in people by the Defense Department, Energy Department and NASA, all of which have sites polluted with it." The Bush administration charged the EPA with inflating TCE's risks and asked the National Academy to investigate. Contrary to the administration's hopes, however, the committee's report has reinforced previous findings, which determined TCE to be anywhere from two to 40 times more carcinogenic than previously believed.
Thousands contaminated
We didn't know it when we lived there, but our Tucson neighborhood's public water supply was one of thousands nationwide contaminated with TCE (along with a medley of other toxic chemicals including, ironically, arsenic). It wasn't terrorists who laced our cups and bathtubs with these poisons -- it was private contractors employed by the Air Force.
Beginning during the Korean War, military contractors began using industrial solvents, including TCE, to degrease airplane parts. Hughes Missiles Systems Co. (which was purchased by the Raytheon Corp. in 1997) worked at the Tucson International Airport, spilling chemicals off the runway and letting them sink into the soil of a city entirely dependent on its underground water supply. What didn't seep into the earth was dumped into unlined pits scraped into the desert floor. Over the course of many years Hughes used barrels and barrels of TCE at the airport hangars and at weapons system manufacturing facilities on government-owned and contractor-operated land not far from where we lived. As late as 1985, 2,220 pounds of TCE was still being dumped in Tucson landfills every month.
Like so many other toxic hotspots, Tucson's southside is primarily a working-class community called home by many people of color. It is situated near the San Xavier Indian reservation, which also had residential areas affected by runoff.
Generally, fines associated with hazardous waste laws are up to six times higher in white communities than their minority counterparts. What has happened in Tucson since the early '80s reflects this unevenness. There has been only one legal case against the military and its cohorts, a lengthy personal-injury lawsuit filed in behalf of 1,600 people against the aircraft manufacturer, the city of Tucson and the Tucson Airport Authority (citizens are not allowed to sue the federal government over such matters). The case excluded thousands of potential plaintiffs and did not include funds from which future claimants could collect for illnesses like cancers, which typically do not appear until 10 or 20 years after chemical exposure. As a result, many southside residents have yet to be compensated and probably never will be. To this day, some area wells remain polluted, and most estimate cleanup will not be completed for another 20 to 50 years. Meanwhile, residents have the small consolation their water supply is being monitored.
The National Academy of Sciences study is a step in the right direction, but one that will certainly be met with resistance. In Tucson, because the lawsuit was settled out of court, none of the defendants had to admit that TCE is carcinogenic. Instead of acknowledging the link between TCE and local health problems, officials blamed the smoking and eating habits of local residents and said their cancer was the result of "eating too much chili." It was suggested to our parents, who are white, that Sunaura's birth defect may have been the consequence of high peanut butter consumption.
But people who have lived on the southside of Tucson don't need experts to verify that TCE is deadly. Some estimate that up to 20,000 individuals have died, become ill, or been born with birth defects. Providing further proof, the Tucson International Airport area is one of the EPA's top Superfund sites. Arizona state guidelines also assert that TCE is toxic; they say one gallon of TCE is enough to render undrinkable the amount of water used by 3,800 people over an entire year. Over 4,000 gallons drained into Tucson aquifers. As a result of this week's report, Arizona's environmental quality chief says the state is independently and immediately going to adopt stricter TCE soil standards.
It's an ugly truth that manufacturing weaponry to kill abroad also kills at home. The process involves toxic chemicals, metals and radioactive materials. As a consequence, the U.S. military produces more hazardous waste annually than the five largest international chemical companies combined. The Pentagon is responsible for over 1,400 properties contaminated with TCE.
Citizens, who pay for the military budget with their tax dollars, are also paying with their health and sometimes their lives.
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Ever miss a tax payment? they are on you like a hungry vulture at a roadside feast. Ever NOT pay a parking ticket and then try to renew your driver's license? No way. But these perps walk around as if they own the land , so DO THEY???
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As a Brit living in New York for some years now, I know only too well the appalling record of companies [including the AEA in Britain] with regard to contamination of the land surrounding these facilities - whether they be chemical, nuclear or whatever.
Any Brit can tell you about Windscale, a nuclear reprocessing plant [in North West England], built in 1953. It leaked all kinds of radioactive contaminants into the surrounding countryside after a fire in its graphite cores in 1957. The seriousness was routinely covered up. Until Three-Mile-Island in 1979, it was the world's worst nuclear disaster. Both since dwarfed by Chenobyl.
So, as much as I want to vilify the US Defence Department as the next poster on here, let's have some supporting evidence when stats are thrown around.
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Ok, how are we supposed to live if the destruction of Mother Earth continues, all for the sake of "freedom" and our "military." That makes no sense. To sacrifice our Mother Earth for those two illusions is demented.
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Fallon childhood leukemia cluster Reno Gazette Journal portal site to dozens of articles about the childhood leukemia cluster near Fallon, NV--home of the Navy's "Top Gun" flight training facility, and most severe leukemia cluster known in history
Sierra Vista childhood leukemia cluster, near Fort Huachuca army base in AZ.
Guam childhood leukemia cluster Pacific Daily News profile of a father fighting to clean up PCBs and other military toxics.
Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio LA Times: "Cancer Stalks a Toxic Triangle."
Military toxics in Alaska
Marine training base Camp Lejeune in NC has a long history of toxics in the water and contaminated base housing, with terrible health results.
Toxic Kitsap and Polluted Puget Puget Sound Naval Shipyard has a leukemia cluster in their workers.
Pratt & Whitney Jet Engine Factory in Connecticut, where 87 workers have been diagnosed with brain cancer since the 1960s, and 36 have died.
Norwich England Esophageal Cancer Cluster, the British military tested chemical weapons spreading by dropping cadmium, a known carcinogen, on the townspeople of Norwich.
BE SAFE overview of military toxics.
It is easy for this subject to fall into an argument between the right and the left, but we should rise above these party lines. One of the most exposed populations are the enlisted personnel themselves. These exposures on military bases lead to an increase in infertility, birth defects, and children suffering chronic illnesses like cancer, asthma, ADD, autism, etc. Our troops are willing to risk their lives to defend our country, but they never agreed to sacrifice their children's lives as well.
We need to follow Europe's lead in shifting the burden of proof for toxicity to the polluters, not their victims. We need to take a precautionary approach, and find safe substitutes for the toxic chemicals currently in widespread use by the military and others.
For more information, visit Families Against Cancer & Toxics
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There's a new breed of troll out there - they're called shills - can't the neocons hire sombody with a brain? Oh wait, I forgot, Bush is their leader so never mind.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 4, 2006 3:04 PM
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China kills their own people with pollution. Russia, Poland, Germany, France, and the US likewise. The so-called First World is committing suicide.
I remember reading the novel "Amboy Dukes" as a teenager, where I learned that the gang members' motto was "Live fast, die young, and have a beautiful corpse."
We are now officially as sick as the criminal class. The US has become a criminal enterprise. As with all criminals, we eat our young.
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You can multiply that photo by X and see the results of pollution near a weapons plant in many American towns and cities.
I remember reading about Times Beach, Missouri, a dot of a twon SW of St. Louis which was evacuated by a dioxin spill in the mid eighties. Let's say that dioxin is not something you add to Kool-Aid.
Anyway, lots of us work in weapons factories across the country and who knows how many of us are infected with military effluence. Are we willing to pay a very hefty price for being a part of the military-industrial complex?
We've bragged and boasted about how powerful our military is to the world, and now people's health is suffering.
Northwest of Los Angeles is a small town called Simi Valley, where high levels of waste from beryllium, molybdenum, copper, were found at the now closed Santa Susana Lab and there have been a number of former workers whose lives are wrecked from the contaminants left over from the Cold War lab.
Numerous lawsuits were filed. It takes years to get a judgment.
The area near the 118 Freeway heading into Simi is eerily void of life. Only a few homes are located there. Only the hardiest of chaparral and drought resistant vegitation can survive in this environment. There are few trees. The landscape is bleak.
Yes, the EPA says cleanup efforts are underway, but the money isn't enough and there are too few workers available to do this dirty and hazardous work.
We're trying, at least, to understand what is going on at Rayhteon, Westinghouse, General Dynamics, Northrop, Boeing, TRW, etc. I know we all have to work, but ask yourself what price do we pay for the catastrophe we've created.
This is an indictment on the lives we lead. This is our lasting legacy. It is a foorprint that can't be erased from our mental landscape.
We could quit making weapons but that would swell the unemployment ranks. Which way do we go?
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So if you child gets cancer or grows an extra head from drinking water contaminated with TCE from cleaning out the fuel lines of a missile, what the heck, that missile was designed to kill us all so that we would all die before we figured out that they are poisoning us.
America is more than an ordinary criminal enterprise, it is no longer a viable organization. At the moment the decision was made to go ahead with a build-up of nuclear weapons, and the plans were made to use them, any agreements that we had with our "Master" class, ended.
America is and has been operating strictly on the basis of Force and Fraud, a classic good old fashioned Extortion Murder racket.
Our nuclear war criminal elite have already pulled the nuclear trigger on us, though most people find it hard to believe. We continue to exist due only to the fact of the continuing intervention into our world from some still unknown "Higher Level Power."
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humanity's one mistake was not stopping this accelerating cycle of its own destruction. and now...no one even wants to make the effort. why are weapons made? war. why is war made? greed. there is not one war in history that wasn't started by greed. and now greed is fashionable. what next?
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We do not need terrorists when the US military is doing it to us right here at home.
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IT'S HAPPENING.
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Do you know what I see civilians doing when military bases go away? Often I see them overdeveloping the heck out of it! I don't think the upper peninsula in Virginia would have any green areas left if it weren't for military reservations. The snowy plowers would be closer to extinction if it weren't for Vandenberg AFB. The only place I've seen wild antelope in Cheyenne WY was at FE Warren AFB. Pointing the finger at the military won't solve this type of problem. Respect for the environment and for the value of green spaces is the only thing that will help, but that requires a societal change.
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Ever miss a tax payment? they are on you like a hungry vulture at a roadside feast. Ever NOT pay a parking ticket and then try to renew your driver's license? No way. But these perps walk around as if they own the land , so DO THEY???
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As a Brit living in New York for some years now, I know only too well the appalling record of companies [including the AEA in Britain] with regard to contamination of the land surrounding these facilities - whether they be chemical, nuclear or whatever.
Any Brit can tell you about Windscale, a nuclear reprocessing plant [in North West England], built in 1953. It leaked all kinds of radioactive contaminants into the surrounding countryside after a fire in its graphite cores in 1957. The seriousness was routinely covered up. Until Three-Mile-Island in 1979, it was the world's worst nuclear disaster. Both since dwarfed by Chenobyl.
So, as much as I want to vilify the US Defence Department as the next poster on here, let's have some supporting evidence when stats are thrown around.
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Ok, how are we supposed to live if the destruction of Mother Earth continues, all for the sake of "freedom" and our "military." That makes no sense. To sacrifice our Mother Earth for those two illusions is demented.
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Fallon childhood leukemia cluster Reno Gazette Journal portal site to dozens of articles about the childhood leukemia cluster near Fallon, NV--home of the Navy's "Top Gun" flight training facility, and most severe leukemia cluster known in history
Sierra Vista childhood leukemia cluster, near Fort Huachuca army base in AZ.
Guam childhood leukemia cluster Pacific Daily News profile of a father fighting to clean up PCBs and other military toxics.
Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio LA Times: "Cancer Stalks a Toxic Triangle."
Military toxics in Alaska
Marine training base Camp Lejeune in NC has a long history of toxics in the water and contaminated base housing, with terrible health results.
Toxic Kitsap and Polluted Puget Puget Sound Naval Shipyard has a leukemia cluster in their workers.
Pratt & Whitney Jet Engine Factory in Connecticut, where 87 workers have been diagnosed with brain cancer since the 1960s, and 36 have died.
Norwich England Esophageal Cancer Cluster, the British military tested chemical weapons spreading by dropping cadmium, a known carcinogen, on the townspeople of Norwich.
BE SAFE overview of military toxics.
It is easy for this subject to fall into an argument between the right and the left, but we should rise above these party lines. One of the most exposed populations are the enlisted personnel themselves. These exposures on military bases lead to an increase in infertility, birth defects, and children suffering chronic illnesses like cancer, asthma, ADD, autism, etc. Our troops are willing to risk their lives to defend our country, but they never agreed to sacrifice their children's lives as well.
We need to follow Europe's lead in shifting the burden of proof for toxicity to the polluters, not their victims. We need to take a precautionary approach, and find safe substitutes for the toxic chemicals currently in widespread use by the military and others.
For more information, visit Families Against Cancer & Toxics
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Posted by: babs on Aug 4, 2006 11:03 AM
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There's a new breed of troll out there - they're called shills - can't the neocons hire sombody with a brain? Oh wait, I forgot, Bush is their leader so never mind.
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Posted by: tctech on Aug 4, 2006 12:54 PM
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Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 4, 2006 3:04 PM
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China kills their own people with pollution. Russia, Poland, Germany, France, and the US likewise. The so-called First World is committing suicide.
I remember reading the novel "Amboy Dukes" as a teenager, where I learned that the gang members' motto was "Live fast, die young, and have a beautiful corpse."
We are now officially as sick as the criminal class. The US has become a criminal enterprise. As with all criminals, we eat our young.
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Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Aug 4, 2006 4:23 PM
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You can multiply that photo by X and see the results of pollution near a weapons plant in many American towns and cities.
I remember reading about Times Beach, Missouri, a dot of a twon SW of St. Louis which was evacuated by a dioxin spill in the mid eighties. Let's say that dioxin is not something you add to Kool-Aid.
Anyway, lots of us work in weapons factories across the country and who knows how many of us are infected with military effluence. Are we willing to pay a very hefty price for being a part of the military-industrial complex?
We've bragged and boasted about how powerful our military is to the world, and now people's health is suffering.
Northwest of Los Angeles is a small town called Simi Valley, where high levels of waste from beryllium, molybdenum, copper, were found at the now closed Santa Susana Lab and there have been a number of former workers whose lives are wrecked from the contaminants left over from the Cold War lab.
Numerous lawsuits were filed. It takes years to get a judgment.
The area near the 118 Freeway heading into Simi is eerily void of life. Only a few homes are located there. Only the hardiest of chaparral and drought resistant vegitation can survive in this environment. There are few trees. The landscape is bleak.
Yes, the EPA says cleanup efforts are underway, but the money isn't enough and there are too few workers available to do this dirty and hazardous work.
We're trying, at least, to understand what is going on at Rayhteon, Westinghouse, General Dynamics, Northrop, Boeing, TRW, etc. I know we all have to work, but ask yourself what price do we pay for the catastrophe we've created.
This is an indictment on the lives we lead. This is our lasting legacy. It is a foorprint that can't be erased from our mental landscape.
We could quit making weapons but that would swell the unemployment ranks. Which way do we go?
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Posted by: pjrsullivan on Aug 4, 2006 9:27 PM
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So if you child gets cancer or grows an extra head from drinking water contaminated with TCE from cleaning out the fuel lines of a missile, what the heck, that missile was designed to kill us all so that we would all die before we figured out that they are poisoning us.
America is more than an ordinary criminal enterprise, it is no longer a viable organization. At the moment the decision was made to go ahead with a build-up of nuclear weapons, and the plans were made to use them, any agreements that we had with our "Master" class, ended.
America is and has been operating strictly on the basis of Force and Fraud, a classic good old fashioned Extortion Murder racket.
Our nuclear war criminal elite have already pulled the nuclear trigger on us, though most people find it hard to believe. We continue to exist due only to the fact of the continuing intervention into our world from some still unknown "Higher Level Power."
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Posted by: Status Quo Exile on Aug 5, 2006 7:47 PM
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humanity's one mistake was not stopping this accelerating cycle of its own destruction. and now...no one even wants to make the effort. why are weapons made? war. why is war made? greed. there is not one war in history that wasn't started by greed. and now greed is fashionable. what next?
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Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 6, 2006 3:07 PM
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Posted by: PeaceThinkTank.org on Aug 7, 2006 8:32 AM
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We do not need terrorists when the US military is doing it to us right here at home.
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Posted by: saywhat on Aug 9, 2006 10:28 AM
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IT'S HAPPENING.
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Posted by: AFWXMAN on Aug 24, 2006 9:54 AM
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Do you know what I see civilians doing when military bases go away? Often I see them overdeveloping the heck out of it! I don't think the upper peninsula in Virginia would have any green areas left if it weren't for military reservations. The snowy plowers would be closer to extinction if it weren't for Vandenberg AFB. The only place I've seen wild antelope in Cheyenne WY was at FE Warren AFB. Pointing the finger at the military won't solve this type of problem. Respect for the environment and for the value of green spaces is the only thing that will help, but that requires a societal change.
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