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Israel Accused of Using Illegal Weapons

By Dahr Jamail, IPS News. Posted July 29, 2006.


Human Rights Watch claims that Israel has dropped cluster bombs in civilian areas of Lebanon, violating international law.
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The Israeli military is using illegal weapons against civilians in southern Lebanon, according to several reports.

U.S.-based Human Rights Watch (HRW) said this week that Israel had used cluster bombs in civilian areas of Lebanon, in clear violation of international law.

The group said cluster bombs killed a civilian and injured 12 others in Blida village in the south of Lebanon last week. Cluster bombs disperse hundreds of tiny shrapnel-filled 'bomblets' that are "unacceptably inaccurate and unreliable", and should not be used in civilian areas, HRW said.

Lebanese doctors, aid workers and refugees are reporting that the Israeli military has used the incendiary weapon white phosphorous in civilian areas, also in violation of the Geneva Conventions.

Dr. Bachir el-Sham at the Complex Hospital in Sidon in the south of Lebanon told IPS in a telephone interview that he has received civilian patients injured by incendiary weapons.

"We are seeing people that are all blackened, with charred flesh that is not burned by normal bombs and flames," he said. "I am sure this is a special bomb. They are using incendiary weapons on civilians in the south. We are seeing these patients."

The doctor also told IPS that the Israelis are again using suction bombs, which they used heavily during the Lebanese civil war.

"They are using suction bombs that implode our buildings," he added, "With implosive bombs... instead of the glass blasted out, it is inside the building. These kill everyone inside the building. There are rarely survivors when they use these bombs."

Bilal Masri, assistant director of the Beirut Government University Hospital (BGUH) had told IPS earlier that "many of the injured in the south are suffering from the impact of incendiary white phosphorous."

Wafaa el-Yassir, Beirut representative of the non-governmental organisation Norwegian People's Aid, told IPS that several of her relief workers in the south had reported assisting people hit by incendiary weapons.

"The most important thing is that we have an investigation for the Israelis' use of banned weapons," she said. "They have used phosphorous in Nabatiyeh and cluster bombs in Dahaya district of Beirut."

She also said that a doctor at the Bint Jbail hospital, in the small city near the southern border of Lebanon where much of the fierce fighting has taken place, had told her agency that he was certain that white phosphorous had been used against civilians there.

Zacharia al-Amedin, an 18-year-old refugee being treated for lacerations from bomb shrapnel said, "I was in a village near Tyre, and the Israelis were dropping incendiary bombs all around us, even though there weren't fighters near us. So many civilians were hit by these weapons."

The Lebanese ministry of interior has officially said that the Israeli military has used this weapon.

President Emile Lahoud said recently on French radio: "According to the Geneva Conventions, when they use phosphorous bombs and laser bombs, is that allowed against civilians and children?"

An Israeli military spokesman told Reuters news agency, "Everything the Israeli defence forces are using is legitimate." International law requires that the military distinguish between combatants and civilians. Incendiary weapons and cluster bombs when used in areas where there may be civilians contravene international humanitarian law.

"We are a country of humans, not animals," Sham said. "Real people are dying here. You must ask this of the world, to please help."

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But those 1,500 rockets Hezbollah has provably fired at Israeli civilians - no big deal right?
Posted by: thinkprogress on Jul 29, 2006 12:29 AM   
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"Human Rights Watch claims that Israel has dropped cluster bombs in civilian areas of Lebanon, violating international law."

And Hezbollah firing 1,500 rockets at Israeli civilians, using UN peacekeepers as human shields, storing weapons in mosques and neighborhoods - all violations of international law - no big deal right?

Come on AlterNet, why the bias? If you really care about civilians why don’t you give both sides?

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» They are all Killers Posted by: coldeye
» DoubleThink Pwogwess Posted by: srqwolf
It's sad that Israel has lost it's noblity...
Posted by: justaperson on Jul 29, 2006 3:54 AM   
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I have always supported the state of Israel, but years ago began to notice they had no qualms about using unnecessary force. I remember being shocked that faced with a group of rock throwing Palestinians, they would bring in tanks and simply mow everything down including houses and cars that probably didn't belong to any of the attackers. It didn't seem right.

Then I learned of the way they treated the people remaining in Gaza after their pullout, how badly they treated the Palestinians there, forcing humiliation on them, restricting their movement. Getting out of Gaza was a step in the right direction, but they still kept tight and oppresive control over the population there.

Now we see this massive destruction in Lebanon. Damage that USA taxpayers will have to help pay for when they are satiated and tired of venting their hatred of the Lebanese people.

It seems so ridiculous that the USA is providing the weapons that are destroying cities we will one day have to help rebuild. This makes me angry. Our government has trouble passing a fair minimum wage law, but eagerly ships weapons to a foreign country at war. It just seems so unfair and stupid.

Using phosperous on civilians under any circumstances seems barbaric and horrible. There simply is no excuse for it.

Israel seems paranoid to me. They really have never abandoned all the illegal territories they hold, so they can't really know how groups like Hezzbollah would react. They just assume the worst.

My support of Israel sadly grows dimmer every day. I can no longer consider them honest. They keep saying they are "not targeting civilians" but obviusly they are and in a most hideous and cruel way. They're operating from revenge, not rational thinking.

Bush, by giving them the green light to keep going like this, has by extension brought shame on all Americans who despise the use of phospherous on civilians.

It's really sad & Israel is the one sucking us into this futile adventure.

We should be bringing a resolution before the Security Council to fine Israel for the mindless and total destruction of Lebanon's infrastructure.

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» Sadly, so true Posted by: HeroesAll
no regard
Posted by: rsaxto on Jul 29, 2006 4:20 AM   
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It seems like countries that have lots of atomic weapons have no regard for law, life, decency, the UN, survival, the environment and all the other good stuff that civilization is supposed to bring. So it is no surprise that USA, Israel and most other atom bomb worshiping nations consider their supposed enemies to be so worthless that it is OK to slaughter them en mass. It seems that the decline and fall of civilization is occuring at an increasing rate and only greed and gore make all decisions at the top. The human race is becoming a pitiful pile of worthless crap.

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War Kills Civilians and Israel/Hizbollah Know It and Dont Care
Posted by: coldeye on Jul 29, 2006 6:31 AM   
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all this nonsense about international law of war needs to stop. war is violent. it should be banned but then nations would have to obey such a law and no one who is sane believes that would ever happen. War itself is not illegal and is sanctioned by international law(which itself is a joke that no one listens to unless it happens to support their position).

Every death in war is homicide; yet except for pure pacifists, everyone has "their" just war. so everyone supports some kind of homicide. (Well, if it was to kill Hitler......).

Hizbollah is a popular based resistance group that uses "terrorist" and guerilla tactics. Algeria is the generic origin of most of the guerilla groups and tactics since 1960. In the Sixties radicals read Fanon and watched the Battle of Algiers while clutching their Mao Red Book filled with aphorisms about guerillas swimming in the sea of the people and the inevitability of armed struggel.

The Algerian FLN, the model for the Palestinian guerilla nationalist movement of the 1970's, did not usually do the French the favor of standing in fields with uniforms so they could be machine gunned. Nor did Mao's guerillas, nor the Viet Cong. Why is everyone in a twit about guerillas fighting among civilians("they're cowards, fumigates the Right) or civilians dying because they are surrounded by guerillas using the civilians as shields to fire at the guerillas' enemies("oh, HOW can you bomb a mosque[which is full of bombs and guerillas].

the entire debate in the West about Israel's "disproportionate response" and Hizbollah's firing rockets that can't be targeted accurately is hypocritical.

War is bad. don't start it period. There are no rules of War. Hitler and Stalin at least were honest about that. You exterminate your enemy. Everyone else agrees with Hitler and Stalin, but they don't have the honesty to say so. (I think Mao did.)

Israel is "wrong", Hizbollah is "wrong". Well, they don't care, and there are dozens of Israels and Iraqs and dozens of Hizbollas and Iraqi Sunni insurgents around the world.

Unless nations are willing to violently stop the Israels and the insurgents (BOTH) of the world from engaging in their violent resolution of their identity crises, they should shut up and let the combatants slaughter each other, even with horrid civilan suffering. The civilians in the current example did squat to protest the violent tendencies of their fellow Jews or Shia before the fighting broke out. Now they want a free pass. TOUGH!

Paciifists: you are the only consistent, unhypocritical people. Your visions however have no chance of realization.

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» RE:PPWER TO THE PEACEFUL Posted by: marklar
"Everything the Israeli defence forces are using is legitimate."?????
Posted by: wawa on Jul 29, 2006 6:43 AM   
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ON THE JULY 13, 2006 WAWA BLOG I reported:

In Shifa hospital, Dr al-Saqqa said most of the dead bodies taken to the facility were torn apart and completely burnt.

"Even bodies of the injured have been almost completely burnt. They have been deformed in a very ugly way that we have never seen before," he told Aljazeera channel.

Al-Saqaa, who heads the hospital's emergency service, said relatives had been unable to identify the dead victims.

"When we try to X-ray dead bodies, we find no trace of the shrapnel that hit the person killed," he said, adding that the bodies seemed to have been chemically burnt.

"We are sure that Israel is using a new chemical or radioactive weapon in the new operation. More than 25% of the injured are children, aged under 16."
[link to article posted on WAWA blog 7/13/06]



July 24, 2006 it was reported on:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/07/345598.html
Israelis are using Depleted Uranium in Lebanon

Physicist Calman Altman, stated Israel has introduced - or possibly continues to use - Depleted Uranium (DU) ammunition in it's current invasion and bombing of Lebanon...DU/"dirty bomb" which contaminates, poisons and effects people, plants, animals and environment exposed to it for years to come.



Mazin Qumsiyeh, PhD, reports:
"the past two weeks included over 500 Lebanese and Palestinian civilians
killed (including entire families), 20% of Lebanese civilians displaced,
over $4 billion of Lebanese civilian infrastructure destroyed, and whole
neighborhoods flattened by US-supplied weapons. The Israeli army (already
4th or 5th strongest in the world) will see its budget increased by nearly
$500 million and the US is rushing delivery of aviation fuels, bombs and
munitions all funded by US taxpayers."-
http://www.qumsiyeh.org/servingforeigninterests/

"We have seen the enemy and he is US"-Pogo

Less than 7 decades ago 6 million INNOCENT people were murdered because good people did NOTHING for far too long

Silence is Complicity: phone and fax your opinions to:

WHITE HOUSE COMMENTS LINE: 202-456-1111
WHITE HOUSE SWITCHBOARD: 202-456-1414
WHITE HOUSE FAX: 202-456-2461

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Israel? Use banned weapons? Violate international law? How RIDICULOUS
Posted by: xbj on Jul 29, 2006 8:58 AM   
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...that we're FINALLY ONLY noticing NOW.

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» The time to stop is now Posted by: Conservasaurus
Just Like the Nazis
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 29, 2006 9:22 AM   
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The Israeli approach is a page right out of the SS operations manual by Heinrich Himmler. If the civilian population is somehow perceived as giving any aid or comfort to "the enemy," kill them, kill them by the hundreds. For every one of our proud citizens killed, a hundred of your civilians must die. Therefore, for every Israeli killed, 100 Lebanese must now die. Therefore, we can project the Lebanese casualty rate quite easily. If a Hezballah rocket kills 6 Israelis, we can look for 600 or so Lebanese civilians to shortly die.

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» RE:Not Like the Nazis Posted by: coldeye
Much Like The Nazis
Posted by: eyeman on Jul 29, 2006 12:37 PM   
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The difference between Israel and the Nazis is a matter of magnitude. Israel is working on it since 1947. I am almost sure Israel will beat the Nazis in brutality and magitude when this is all done - nuclear weapons and all.
It is not that Israel is nicer than than Nazi. They are just smaller. And it is hard to do this with the International Media and easy communication that we have today.

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» Using a term you don't understand.. Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Much Like The Nazis Posted by: marklar
» RE: Much Like The Nazis Posted by: Conservasaurus
What the heck is a "suction bomb"?
Posted by: rbohan on Jul 29, 2006 1:11 PM   
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Kind of hard to picture a bomb that pulls everything inside the building.

As to the rest of it, I sometimes get the impression that some damn fundamentalist Islamic terrorist blew up Tel Aviv with a small atomic bomb. Alternet would publish an article blaming Israel for the radioactive fallout.

Sheesh, what a bunch of maroons.

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» RE: What the heck is a "suction bomb"? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Suction Bombs Posted by: particle
Criticism of Israel is not naive, anti-semetic or "immoral"
Posted by: texshelters on Jul 29, 2006 1:15 PM   
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This is for all you knuckleheads who think it's okay that Israel kills and not okay that Hezbollah kills.

Criticism of Israel doesn't mean people support Hezbollah or don't want Israel to defend itself. Many people think that the 1 Israeli death to 100 Lebanese civilian death toll is out of control and still want Israel to remain a viable state. Imagine that, we can criticize and support Israel at the same time. We can criticize our government and President and support the troops at the same time as well. I know that's a hard concept for some, but it happens.

Israel is the power in this relationship, but they can't kill the ideology they are fighting against with bombs. In fact, bombs and occupation increase the hatred of Israel. Do they think there wont be new militants signing up as they kill the current militants? Do they think occupation of Lebanon or Palestinian territories will lead to peace?

If people want peace, there are other ways. Sure, there are militants that want to overthrow Israel and will always fight to do so.

But until there is a culture (Israeli, Palestinian, Lebanese, etc) that supports human rights and freedom and accepts a partnership with Israel, militants will find support in the Middle East. We have terrorists in the United States, but they are so far out of the mainstream that they don't receive popular support (for now). Why? Because we have some economic opportunity, we have some freedoms, we have options, we're not occupied, our houses aren't illegally bull dozed by the power government (to a major extent), we don't have our ID's searched at check points by occupiers when we go to work (airports excepted) and so forth. So, how about looking at some of the deep rooted hatred on both sides before we say it's all Hezbollah or Israel or Arafat, or Hamas, etc.

I'll tell you what. Whenever I hear a jihadists atrocities or Israel atrocities on the news, I point the middle finder at the radio and say, "@#$%# you all!" That includes criticism of Israel and all parties.

Joe Tex

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Hezbollah
Posted by: Dboy on Jul 29, 2006 2:49 PM   
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I agree that Hezbollah firing 1,500 un-guided rockets is a very bad thing. I propose that we arm them with laser-guided weaponry, Apache helicopters, and F16 fighters. Problem solved.

Dboy

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» You work for the Mossad? Posted by: coldeye
'Rules' of war
Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 29, 2006 3:47 PM   
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According to Wikipedia, WP is not a chemical weapon, but a weapon with secondary incendiary effects. The weapon was used in Iraq to flush the enemy out of their hidey-holes so we could better kill them. For me, I have a hard time understanding why one weapon of war is worse than another; particularly when bombs kill more people indiscriminately than white phosphorus. WP causes more burns, but produces more survivors than explosives.

If the use WP is being used to flush Hezbollah fighters out of civilian buildings, I'd rather Israel do that than just blowing up a whole apartment building.

All types of weapons, when fired into a building whose inhabitants are unknown, will indiscrimnately kill some or all of those people. So the real question that comes to my mind is, when is it ever acceptable to allow civilians to be killed in a time of war?

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» RE: 'Rules' of war Posted by: wrigjose
» Failure to motivate Posted by: YogiBear
war criminals
Posted by: yellow on Jul 29, 2006 5:19 PM   
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Beginning with Iraq in March 2003, the US/UK Axis and now their ally, Israel, which has joined this axis of evil, are guilty of planning and conducting an unprovoked war of aggression. These illegal wars, wars which were said to be preventitive by the US/UK own admission, were illegal plunderous wars of aggression by the standards of the UN Charter, the fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, and the Legal opinions of the international Jurists at the Nuremburg Trial who determined that the Nazis were war criminals who planned, initiated, and conducted an unprovoked war of aggression. The Israelis clearly antagonized the Hezbollah with its illegal siezure of Gaza and the illegal and brutal collective punishments of the Palestinians of Gaza through the willful destruction of vital civilian infrastructure and private Arab homes. The circumstances of the Lebanon invasion were suspect with regard to whether the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers occured on the Lebanon side of the border or in Israel. Even if it occured in Israel, surely the disproportionate response has made Israeli aggression and collective punishment of all of Lebanon illegal and immoral. Further, Israel's goal of widening the war in conjunction with US expansionist goals and aggressive designs on other powers in the region such as Iran and Syria makes it an accomplice to this illegal aggression. Israel's willful disregard of peacekeepers and of global appeals for a ceasefire cast it and its allies in the role of reprehensible war criminals. The obvious disregard of the US/UK/Israeli Axis for the great humanitarian crisis being generated is further proof of this Axis powers disregard of human life, international law, and standards of decency. Under cover of fighting "terror" this axis has pursued an illegal war of aggression in the interest of hegemonic domination of a resource rich region with no regard for international law, human life, democracy, or human rights. This must be confronted. Demand an immediate, unconditional ceasefire and a just diplomatic resolution NOW!

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Holocaust II
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Jul 29, 2006 5:28 PM   
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Congratulations go out to the IDF - finding a way to cremate without building crematoria! Nazis to Jews = IDF to Lebanese Civilians. Now we have Jews burning innocent civilians, this is progress? And the world stands by doing nothing.

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» RE: Holocaust II Posted by: yellow
» RE: Holocaust II Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Holocaust II Posted by: YogiBear
The Geneva conventions really are adorable
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 29, 2006 7:20 PM   
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Some people have no sense of history - why did all the world's nations get together and sign the Geneva Conventions? Here are the titles of the four conventions:

1) "for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field" (first adopted in 1864)

2) "for the Amelioration of the Condition of Wounded, Sick and Shipwrecked Members of Armed Forces at Sea" (first adopted in 1949)

3) "relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War" (first adopted in 1929)

4) "relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War" (first adopted in 1949)

Chemical weapons are indiscriminate (4) and their effects are horrific and cover large areas. Biological weapons are worse, but how much worse depends on the agent - there are real fears about the ability of any surviving smallpox strains to cause a global epidemic, while anthrax is not transmissible person-to-person.

Limited force, surgical strikes, precision munitions - isn't that the military PR stance? Then we hear that the 'insurgents' can't be distinguished from the civilians, so we'll just have to kill'em all - you might as well ask why the US military didn't flood Falluja with sarin nerve gas to 'flush out' the insurgents, who were 'embedded' with the civilians (the soon-to-be 'collateral damage'). Why not just nuke the whole city? Why not burn people alive on top of the walls of Guantanamo as a warning to our enemies?

That was one of Machiavelli's suggestions for 'demoralizing the enemy' - along with raping captured women in sight of the enemy lines. Lovely fellow, Machiavelli - and he's also a kind of ideological ancestor for the neocons. He also came from an era when personal hygiene was not a well-known concept, and he must have had fleas.

The war cheerleaders never seem to be the ones who fight in the wars, and so they don't understand why wars that are over fast are always the 'best' wars, and why military occupation of a country is doomed to failure, especially when done under false pretense as part of an oil or land grab strategy. Attacking civilian populations and torturing and raping prisoners - that's just shameful behavior that makes a mockery of any traditions of military honor and service, which is yet another reason for the Geneva conventions. Now we have 4,000 more soldiers shipped into Baghdad - and these idiots think that's going to calm things down? What will they do now - level all of Baghdad outside the Green Zone?

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Hitler the Forerunner of the Apartheid State
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 29, 2006 7:31 PM   
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The analogy of Hitler with Sadaam is not a real good one because even though there are similarities, the political/social climate of the times and countries are vastly different. Hitler was a purist in the sense of wanting a superior race, and wanted to wipe out any other peoples not fitting a Teutonic Nordic Stereotype. This included Jews, Poles, Gypsies, etc. It is very important also to remember Hitler did not just kill Jews, of the 12 million killed in the camps, 6 million of them were Jews and 6 million were from other groups, like the Poles and Gypsies. Hitler was in a way, a forerunner of the moden day apartheid state. Any state that wants to give a certain group special privilege, be it defined by a particular race or religion, has a debt of sorts therefore to Hitler. Sadaam on the other hand, he was just plain brutal to everybody and used brutality to hold together desparate groups such as Shiite and Suniis. Now, this is hard to take for pro-Israel supporters, but try to define and create a country based on privilege and rights for a select few, exclude others of a different religion, just how do you define this state? Is this not apartheid or not?

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» What world do you live in? Posted by: coldeye
» RE: What world do you live in? Posted by: sofla100
» Your Nose Just Got Bigger Posted by: coldeye
Fascism does not have to wear ZZ and have a square mustache
Posted by: marklar on Jul 29, 2006 7:37 PM   
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It can look like a very powerful movement like Zionism (ironic how the Z seems to fit just fine) with a very powerful propaganda arm (U.S. MSM), a willing dupe to supply it with free arms and billions of free dollars, and a very racist and murderous apartheid like OCCUPATION of a country like Palestine or Iraq - see how nicely they go together? Aren't you glad no one noticed how OCCUPATION of Palestine and Iraq are one in the same? Run by the same people form behind the scenes - the Zionist Izraelis and the U.S. Izrael Lobby?

Zionism in Israel and in America is fascism. Nazi, Zionism - people are dying and lands are occupied, dissent by the mass of people who don't want it is all but crushed - and worse - the Jews, the very ones who say never again in all of those propaganda movies and documentaries about the Nazi Holocaust against them, sit in silence - like the Germans did.

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Bush ships weapons to Israel thru Scotland...boy are they bloody pissed
Posted by: EQdi on Jul 30, 2006 1:22 AM   
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July 29/30, 2006 -- First, it was a series of CIA prisoner rendition flights that used Glasgow, Scotland's Prestwick Airport as a stopover point. Now, the United States has been caught using Prestwick to ship GBU28 "bunker buster" bombs, laser-guided bombs, and other weapons to Israel for its military attacks on Lebanon and Gaza. The arms have been transported by two chartered A310 cargo planes from the United States via Prestwick to Tel Aviv. Bush "apologized" to his boy friend Tony Blair for not having the right "paperwork" prepared in advance for the hazardous arms flights through Scotland. Blair's spokesman in Washington told reporters, "President Bush did apologize for the fact that proper procedures were not followed . . . It was a gracious thing to do."

Blair overruled his own Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett by saying the arms flights would continue. Beckett had earlier condemned the flights and voice her opposition to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Blair's continuing support for Bush has earned him a severe backlash from members of his own Labor Party who had been vocal Blair supporters.

Members of the Scottish Parliament, particularly Scottish National Party members, are calling on the Scottish government to ban the U.S. flights from Scotland, a move that could result in a constitutional crisis between London and Edinburgh. Alex Salmond, the leader of the Scottish Nationalists, said, "called on the Labour-LibDem [Liberal Democratic] Scottish Executive to step back from its role as an accessory to the escalation of violence in the Middle East by using its own transport powers to prevent such flights and get behind the overwhelming calls from the rest of the world for an immediate ceasefire to the conflict."

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weapons of mass deception used by Izrael too.
Posted by: marklar on Jul 30, 2006 4:58 AM   
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World News

The Times July 28, 2006

Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers
From Yonit Farago in Jerusalem
WHILE Israel fights Hezbollah with tanks and aircraft, its supporters are campaigning on the internet.

Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages.

In the past week nearly 5,000 members of the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) have downloaded special “megaphone” software that alerts them to anti-Israeli chatrooms or internet polls to enable them to post contrary viewpoints. A student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate.

Jonny Cline, of the international student group, said that Jewish students and youth groups with their understanding of the web environment were ideally placed to present another side to the debate.

“We’re saying to these people that if Israel is being bashed, don’t ignore it, change it,” Mr Cline said. “A poll like CNN’s takes just a few seconds to vote in, but if thousands take part the outcome will be changed. What’s vital is that the international face of the conflict is balanced.”

Doron Barkat, 29, in Jerusalem, spends long nights trawling the web to try to swing the debate Israel’s way. “When I see internet polls for or against Israel I send out a mailing list to vote for Israel,” he said. “It can be that after 15 minutes there will be 400 votes for Israel.

“It’s very satisfying. There are also forums where Lebanese and Israelis talk.”

Israel’s Foreign Ministry must avoid direct involvement with the campaign but is in contact with international Jewish and evangelical Christian groups, distributing internet information packs.

Amir Gissin, the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s public relations director, said: “The internet’s become a leading tool for news, shaping the world view of millions. Our problem is the foreign media shows Lebanese suffering, but not Israeli. We’re bypassing that filter by distributing pictures showing how northern Israelis suffer from Katyusha rocket attacks.”

from Raw Story -

So, in addtion to weapons of mass destruction used by Izrael we also have weapons of Mass deception ised by Izrael - looks so much like a neocon inside job.

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Bizarre spin from the Israeli media on Qana
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 30, 2006 8:30 AM   
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The Israeli press runs the same kind of program that the American press does; but they seem a bit more honest. Consider this article in the Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/) by Anshel Pfeffer on the precision bombing of a bomb shelter/ apartment in Qana.

"The exorcism of he ghosts of Qana"
(excerpt)

"...For the government to withstand the already considerable international pressure, which will now only intensify, to immediately call off the offensive, it will have to decide that it's standing by the two core principles that have guided it over the last two and a half weeks. First, that this time a high death-toll or the fear of it, on either side, won't bring this operation to a premature end, as "Grapes of Wrath" was after Qana and Operation Accountability in 1993, before the main objective, bringing an end to Hizbullah's armed presence in South Lebanon, is achieved. The second principle, one decided upon by the self-styled "man of peace" Defense Minister Amir Peretz, that civilians shielding Hizbullah fighters and missiles could no longer be regarded as uninvolved innocents."

(So- this is a way of getting around the 4th Geneva convention - simply reclassify all civilians as 'enemy combatants or assitants'.)

"Resulting of these principles are the two major differences between the 1996 and the 2006 Qana bombings. "Grapes of Wrath" was a relatively limited campaign based on artillery and air-force, but this time Israel has invested so much more in a many times larger operation that it just can't afford to end it without a tangible gain. Furthermore, unlike in 1996, when an errant artillery-shell had been the cause of the carnage, this time it was an accurate airborne bombing, meant for that very building. Therefore Israel is not going to apologize and Olmert, Peretz and the IDF will continue to insist that Hizbullah were launching Katyushas and then sheltering within the target, the civilian deaths are regrettable, but totally the Hizbullah's responsibility. They should not be allowed to benefit from their policy of hiding behind civilians."

(same theme again - all those dead children were really there as 'human shields' for Hizbullah - and they would have grown up to be terrorists, anyway)

"The IDF will be pressed to present some kind of visual proof of Hizbullah operating around the building, even though it probably won't convince the international media, much less foreign governments, if produced promptly it might influence the tone a bit and buy a few hour of respite. Ultimately, it will be Condoleeza Rice and George Bush who decide whether Israel will be allowed to exorcise the ghosts of Qana."

I find it amazing that such a bald-faced appeal to propaganda strategy is published openly in Israel - this stuff is always 'behind the scenes' in the USA. Most interestingly, there is absolutlely no mention of any kidnapped soldiers in this article; and what are the 'gains' the author mentions? Would those be land gains?

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Hizballah's Great Victory
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 30, 2006 1:27 PM   
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Make no mistake, Hizbollah has scored a great victory. As pictures from the new Qana massacre are broadcast into the homes of millions of Arabs via AlJazeera, even countries friendly to the USA (ie, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt) are shaking in their boots. Thousands are already lining up in Iran, in Saudi Arabia, in Syria, to join Jihad, the clerics are writing Fatwa's right now. How could Israel have so miscalculated? A "battle tested" Hizballah II is on it's way. They will "lay low" while Iran develops its Nukes, if Israel attacks Iran, new and improved Hizballah will launch a relentless barrage on Israel that will make a continued attack on Iran impossible. Hizballah themselves could not have hoped for the better victory than what Israel has handed them.

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» Prosecuting a war Posted by: YogiBear
Israel Must Stop Racism
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 30, 2006 6:36 PM   
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Part of the problem is that Israel must stop using notions of so-called racial or religious superiority over the Arabs if they want peace. I have seen this with quite a few Israelis, they defend their action thru a dehumanization of the Arabs, that the Arabs are "dirty," or darker then they are. And, they use these notions, along with Israel having the status of being a country, to legitimize their continued occupation of Arab lands and targeted assasinations. Now, in reality, one's terrorist is one's freedom fighter. When Israel was created, the King David Hotel was blown up and the British government tried to hunt down the "terrorists." These same terrorists were the forerunners of today's Israel. So, time's change, don't they? The bottom line, if Israel wants peace, they must have a comprehensive peace settlement, they absolutely must give up the notion of keeping pieces of the West Bank, and they must control the right-wing Jewish religious zealots (mostly from the USA) who want to come into Israel, grab occupied land, and cause everyone a lot of trouble.

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Did you say "Ragheads"?
Posted by: eyeman on Jul 30, 2006 6:38 PM   
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First of all, using "Rageheads" implies you are a racist who does not belong in a civilized discussion. Second, nobody at all suggested it is ok to kill civilians from any side.

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UPDATE- Qana building collapsed 7 hours after attack targeting two buildings 400 meters away.
Posted by: thinkprogress on Jul 31, 2006 2:39 AM   
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283816,00.html

It looks like it might have been Hezbollah explosives in the Qana building that caused all those deaths.

The strike which supposedly collapsed the building occurred 7 hours before the building collapsed and 400 meters away.

This should be interesting to watch the facts come out.

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» amazing video Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: amazing video Posted by: marklar
CIA and Mossad stirring up pro-Israeli Phalangist forces to destabilize Lebanon
Posted by: srqwolf on Jul 31, 2006 10:32 AM   
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From Wayne Madsen Report:

July 30, 2006 -- LATE EDITION -- WMR's sources in Lebanon report that civilian deaths in Lebanon from incessant Israeli attacks are far more than what is being reported by the corporate media. Over 850 civilians, forty percent of them children, have been killed by the Israelis. Many more are unaccounted for because Israeli forces attack any heavy equipment and rescue teams sent south to clear away rubble from destroyed buildings.

We have also been told by Lebanese intelligence sources that U.S. and Israeli agents are attempting to foment strife among displaced internal Lebanese refugees against the central Lebanese government in an attempt to further destabilize Lebanese society. Much of this U.S. and Israeli-sponsored provocation among the internal refugees is being carried out by ex-Lebanese Forces militias loyal to convicted right-wing Phalangist war criminal Samir Geagea, a follower of pro-Israeli Gen. Michel Aoun. Geagea was freed from prison last year after a general amnesty and he moved to the Lebanese mountains, where he reportedly is now receiving direct CIA and Mossad support in his efforts to stir up violence among refugees. Among other crimes, Geagea was jailed for his role in the assassinations of Lebanese Prime Minister Rashid Karami; Tony Franjieh, the son of Lebanese President Suleiman Franjieh; and former President Camille Chamoun's son Danny, his wife, and two young sons. The destabilization of Lebanon is designed to spill violence across the border into Syria, thus justifying an Israeli-U.S. strike on that country.

U.S. ambassador to Lebanon Jeffrey Feltman, a neo-con ally of John Bolton, was confined to his embassy today as angry crowds demonstrating the Israeli massacre in Qana demonstrated in front of the embassy. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice canceled her trip to Beirut since her safety could not be assured by either the U.S embassy or the Lebanese government.

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Why Target Qana Israel?
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 31, 2006 2:53 PM   
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Yes Israel, the victims at Qana must have blown themselves up. Just like that artillery shell in Palestine that they must have blown up just to blame Israel a few months back. The real question however is this, why did Israel target Qana? Next, will the CIA feed Israel the coordinates of schools, day care centers and nurseries. After all, if the goal is to maximize Lebanese casualties, to make them "pay the price of supporting Hezballah," why the surprise? Of course, this is a repeat for Israel which attacked Qana before, and a clear message Israel is sending to Lebanese civilians.

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Something I Don't Get at All
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Aug 2, 2006 8:44 AM   
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After millennia of homeless wandering, pogroms, slavery and general abuse, all the while maintaining their identity as a people, the Jews ought to be the world's greatest experts on how to treat a dislocated people. They could have, with little more than decent treatment, even after taking Israel, made the Palestinians such loyal friends they'd be taking up weapons on behalf of Israel.

Instead, they demonstrate that they've learned less than
nothing, and that they are themselves no better than those who have abused them down the long ages, as they behave no differently when they are in a position of power. To top it off, they act as if they've bought into this "End Times" garbage Bush and Co. are peddling!

There is a moral high ground, it's a real as stone and plain as day - AND NOT A SINGLE SOUL IS STANDING ON IT! Instead, it is being avoided as if it's radioactive.

It's enough to make me despair for our race. Maybe we humans just don't have the capa