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Six Immigration Lies, Dispelled

By Rinku Sen, TomPaine.com. Posted July 24, 2006.


Immigrants aren't animals or terrorists -- and they're not sucking the nation's economy dry.

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In the ongoing battle over immigration, conservative rhetoric continues to escalate. It's racist, and it gets results. This year, more than 30 states have passed 57 laws banning the undocumented from receiving social services or pledging National Guard troops to patrol the southern U.S. border. Earlier this week, House Republicans in Washington staged a hearing about "cracking down" on undocumented immigrants. Republicans have been told to move ahead but avoid pissing off Latinos - their lesson from Proposition 187 in California -- but a little decoding of the symbols, soundbites and economic arguments they use exposes their fear of a browner nation.

Here, then, are the six racist myths driving the immigration debate, dispelled.

Immigrants are not animals. Last week, Rep. Steve Katz, R.-Ariz., presented his proposal to Congress for a "super fence" along the border. "We could electrify it," he said, "not enough to kill somebody but enough to make them think twice. We do that with livestock all the time." If the problem eased, he suggested, we could open it up again and "let the livestock run through." Enough said.

Neither are they terrorists. In Colorado, a dramatic series of debates ended with the state legislature passing a law requiring adult applicants for public services to prove citizenship. Republicans complained about being beaten down in a "Friday night massacre" because the law didn't go far enough, according to State Rep. Debbie Stafford, R-Aurora. She wanted a ballot measure writing the ban into the state's constitution and also applying to people under 18.

"We're helping to create the next generation of terrorists," she told the Rocky Mountain News . There is no documented connection between immigration and terrorism. When making the flimsy argument that immigration threatens our national security, conservatives like to cite the example of the 9/11 hijackers. Yet, they forget that all 19 hijackers entered the country legally.

Tent cities at the border would be 21st-century concentration camps. Don Goldwater, Arizona's leading Republican gubernatorial candidate, wants to arrest border crossers, imprison them in tents and make them build that coveted super fence. All those National Guard troops sent to the southern border would be kept busy guarding the camps.

There's no invasion. In Idaho, Canyon County Commissioner Robert Vasquez, modeling himself after Tom Tancredo, accused his opponents in a Senate race of "collaborating with the unarmed enemy invading America."

His grandparents were Mexican immigrants, but he fears the consequences of letting in more of their kind, calling this a war: "Either we protect and defend Old Glory at every challenge, or we all learn Spanish and get used to the chicken and worm on the Mexican flag." (Vasquez has joined the National Advisory Committee of Protect Arizona Now, whose chair Virginia Abernethy describes herself as a "white separatist.") There's no evidence, however, that the Latino population will surpass whites any time soon. The Census Bureau projects that by the year 2030, whites will be 24.4 percent of the population; Latinos 20.1 percent. Even in 50 years, Latinos won't outnumber the white majority.

They speak English, just not "English only." Mayor Tom Macklin of Avon Park, Florida, pushed for a new law based on a Pennsylvania precedent that makes English the city's official language -- in addition to fining landlords and denying business licenses to those who accommodate the horde. The city will remove Spanish from all documents, signs and automated phone messages. In Bogota, New Jersey, Mayor Steve Lonegan, generally a free-market libertarian, is campaigning to force McDonald's to remove a Spanish-language billboard. Of course, he'll have to change the town's name too.


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"Racist" charge typical when facts say otherwise
Posted by: pzo on Jul 23, 2006 10:09 PM   
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Wow, by the second word of the second sentence comes the classic fallback position of those confronted by irrefutable facts. then again in the next paragraph.

No, Mr. Sen, we are "illegalists." It matters not what the race is, it is the lack of legal residency and subsequent impacts on America that we are fed up with.

Certainly, some "anti-immigrant" - oh, wait, they are really NOT immigrants - are racists. But that is an ugly slur that you throw against millions of Americans who just want control of changes coming too fast for our culture to adjust to. Low wages, inability to communicate, and population pressures are just a few results of this massive influx.

It's not even a question of using services, or taxes paid, it starts with illegal entry, then illegal documents, then illegal work. Seen any high school kids or dropouts working at McDonalds lately? Over at the construction sites?

I've never seen an analysis of how they impact America's poor, but consider this: If we have 12 million illegals here and they live four to a dwelling, that is 3 million more housing units, or two city's worth, of urban sprawl, energy consumption, etc. Since virtually all illegals are at the lower income levels, that means that poor Americans are competing for the very same housing stock.

If we start arresting a few CEO's and blond housewives, the jobs would dry up. No jobbee, no workee, no problem.

pzo

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» It's them meegrants fault! Posted by: texshelters
» RE: It's Tex Shelters! Posted by: texshelters
The immigration lies of the immigration advocates
Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 24, 2006 12:19 AM   
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Nice try, but the list is a mix of straw men (nobody really thinks immigrants are 'animals'), and misinformation (the true costs of migration).

Any person who enters a country uses resources. When that person needs housing and social services, there is a cost to the public purse. What we have witnessed during the 1990s is a marked change in immigration. Where it once was organised and led to integration, it is now disorganised and leads to ghettos.

I will give you an example based on evidence. The UK is currently experiencing the highest rates of immigration in the country's history. And here is the results. The most successful group to arrive in the past few years (the Poles) have integrated very well and most are working. They have been a boon to the economy. Immigrants who arrived five and ten years ago, however, are now a serious social problem, with high unemployment rates, living in ghettos and spawning the terrorism that led to the deaths of so many.

It is clear that immigration works well where the community coming in shares the values of the host community. It fails where the community coming in behaves like it is an invasion, and either isolates itself from the mainstream, or tries to be hostile to the mainstream (demanding sharia law, etc.). The Mexican community would do better if it obeyed the law, refrained from criminal activity, stopped making calls for the US to be a Spanish speaking nation, and respected the country's history and laws, rather than saying the US is imperialistic (ignoring that Spain was imperialistic as well).

Do this, and we wouldn't be having this debate in the first place.

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» What was that again? Posted by: HeroesAll
spanish language signs/ads
Posted by: browngoddess on Jul 24, 2006 12:21 AM   
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The fact that the Spanish language is being targeted by anti-immigrant activists wanting to take down bilingual signs, etc. confirms what we've known all along, which is that the immigration debate is not about "legal vs. illegal" immigration, but rather, is about race. Immigration debates in U.S. history have been historically tied to debates about race, and the current one is no different. Not all undocumented immigrants speak Spanish, yet only Spanish-language services are being targeted. Let's see them try to stop Polish-language services in Chicago meant for the city's large Polish population (many of whom are undocumented) that has blonde hair and blue eyes.

On a side note: I wonder if these same Republicans would agree to stop Spanish-language Army commercials meant to recruit Latino youth into the military.

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Wow, stir that ant's nest with a stick...
Posted by: HeroesAll on Jul 24, 2006 1:52 AM   
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I can't comment on the situation in the US. But I can comment on Australia.

Australia, like the US, is a nation built on immigration. The white immigrants came over and displaced the locals, then set themselves up as 'real' Australians. Okay, that's old news.

Australia has also absorbed wave after wave of immigrants from elsewhere: first the Chinese, to the goldfields (where they were treated as subhuman); then the Italians and Greeks, and others around the world wars; more recently Vietnamese fleeing the complete destruction of their country, and the last few years Sudanese, Afghanis and Iraqis fleeing the complete destruction of theirs. There's a bit of a common thread there.

What happens is pretty much the same: they're decried to start with, then in ten or twenty years time they're 'solid citizens', while the newest influx is abused. It seems to be human nature, alas. Perhaps I'm not human, because I don't see the need to do that.

Unfortunately for the bigots, it was shown that these immigrants (legal or otherwise) actually improved the economy: in economic terms they provided a net benefit. Quite possibly, without the continuous influx of 'new blood', the Australian economy would have become moribund.

There are a lot of reasons for why their impact is positive, but it seems there's very few reasons why they choose to flee their countries and come here. We (as in We The West, or Australia as a tagalong of the US) have made their lives so difficult, with our wars and our economic games and our poisonous industries, that they're desperately trying to stay afloat the best they can. Can anyone blame them for that?

So to those who want to reduce 'illegal immigration', here's my suggestion: stop your government from trashing their country and they'll likely stay where they are. Get the US government to stop pissing in other peoples' houses. Persuade the Bushies to cancel CAFTA or NAFTA or whatever it was, because those immigrants aren't doing it to spite you or to take your stuff, they're doing it out of desperation.

So stop being afraid of them, and stop punishing them because they've already been punished by your government, and start taking action to change the causes, not the symptoms.

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» I'll make it simple... Posted by: HeroesAll
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» RE: I'll make it simple... Posted by: HeroesAll
» One big difference Posted by: pzo
One truth about immigrants. Stated.
Posted by: tuff_bird on Jul 24, 2006 3:24 AM   
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Illegal immigrants take American jobs while many Americans are unemployed.

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» RE: One truth about immigrants. Stated. Posted by: Third_Eye_Open
» RE: One truth about immigrants. Stated. Posted by: paintthestreets
Overseas, American Embassies Milk the Poor
Posted by: fredo1012 on Jul 24, 2006 3:54 AM   
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I'm going off on a little tangent, and even then I'm not going to belabor the point. Around the world US embassies charge $100 to $110 (USD) non-refundable fees for visa applications, an amount needed to feed a family of 4 for months in most of these countries. Most of the time only 1% applicants get visas. In Nigeria, for example, THOUSANDS APPLY FOR US VISAS EACH WEEK; most of them with valied reasons and documentation to visit or relocate to the US. But most are denied and must forfeit their hard earned income to the US Embassy. That's 100s of 1000s of US Dollars milked from the poor. "We are a rich nation helping the poor, hey?" Just do the math and have the moral courage to tell me so... Please call your Congress men and women to address this extortion of the world's poor.

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» Second most corrupt Posted by: Joshua Holland
Language skills??
Posted by: numen on Jul 24, 2006 4:57 AM   
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Despite showing great pride at being complimented on speaking good English, Sen still can't comprehend the difference between the terms "immigrant" and "illegal alien" throughout the entire essay.

Sen gets an "F" on the English exam.

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» Amen! Posted by: pzo
Racist bad word...
Posted by: blackinjun on Jul 24, 2006 5:32 AM   
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I'm speaking truthfully without prejudice. I'm talking from experience, not from some ideological guilt ridden perspective or one who needs to hire a "cheap" gardener. I was an Vietnam Vet mess cook, therefore, I sought jobs in restaurants and hotels throughout my life. A few years back I went to L.A. to live near my son and sought employment in several restaurants/hotels. I couldn't get a job because the Mexicans wouldn't allow it. They put a lock on the jobs. They would have one "legal" Mexican running the show and when they could, he'd hire illegals at very low wages.


All that b.s. that you are writing about is just that, b.s. to promote your position and although you are correct, (except for health care and education) it's not the problem. Ask the thousands of blacks AMERICAN high school grads who can't find traditional jobs because the Mexicans, illegal and other wise have taken them. Ask the unemployed black men and women who have families to support and have now turned to other things out of frustration. (The legal Mexicans use their connections with illegals to shut out American workers) Ask where are the unions to protect AMERICAN workers/wages? Ask why do my tax dollars pay for head start for illegal Mexican worker's children or SSI. (I don't care if it's two dollars or two million, let them find it in Mexico. Look how they treat their own indigenous population and "immigrants from central america, like shit, so why should we be so kind?)

Liberal and progressive whites can go too far at times with this "we are the world." Look at our country first, we are in deep shit with gangs, drugs, murder, while you are worried about making illegal immigrants legal. America has a history of not caring for it's black, ex slave population and you liberals and progressives are not breaking ranks. This is one reason why you are such hypocrites hiding behind some pseudo intellectual superiority mask.

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» RE: acist bad word... Posted by: SekhmetsatRa
» Couple of very good points Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: racist bad word... Posted by: paintthestreets
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Employers are the reason for illegal immigration
Posted by: deo508 on Jul 24, 2006 5:37 AM   
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I worked for a large corporation selling construction equipment in South Florida throughout the nineties. I visited commercial construction sites, sugar and citrus mills all around Lake Okeechobee (yes, the harvest of shame is still thriving) and all kinds of contracting businesses from large Mechanical Contractors to small one-drunk operations (as we refer to fledgling mom&pop contractors who make enough to employ several illegals.)
I witnessed illegal immingrants in every industry, on every job site, working in every circumstance you can imagine. Some employers valued their illegal workers like the large and successful mechanical contractors who apprenticed and employed union laborers, and gave skilled training to select illegals and paid liveable wages to all. But a large majority used Illigal immigrants and used them poorly. Low wages, no benefits, no time off, no breaks, I've heard every story you can imagine. Some contractors I would simply not sell to because the stuff I sold was very expensive, required many hours of training, and people could get hurt easily without proper training or supervision. I've seen illegals get injured before my very eyes. One guy, a GUAT as they referred to him, got his leg shredded badly from a machine, caused by human error, while in an ushored (unsupported) ditch filled with water leaked in overnight form the underground aquifer near the Miami River. The boss and owner, Willard, said this exactly," Get him out of there and give him his check, He's done. Find someone to replace him."
I could go on with tons more.
My expereince proved to me that employers are to blame for illegal immigration. Period. any construction site in the south, mid-west, and west, and increasingly in the northeast, will have a MAJORITY of illegal laborers who not only do unskilled labor but who perform skilled labor in positons that once required licsencing and union memmbership.
You can not blame people for wanting to come here to work. They are only trying to make a living. It's our politicians and employers from big corporations like Tyson Foods who import Illegal immigrants in their company trucks, and Wal-Mart who lock them up at night while they clean their stores, who are to blame.
American business has lost it's way and is highly unethical and highly immoral when comes to the workforce on not only illegal immigrant but Americans as well. And many of them claim that they are Christians. My ass they are.
We need leaders who care about human beings before golden parachutes and profits. Period.

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An exercise in futility
Posted by: Lizmv on Jul 24, 2006 5:49 AM   
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Immigration is really such a non-issue, however is is certainly a great wedge that the right will use to divert attention from reality. Presenting the facts is like talking to a brick wall.

Locally, in the Northeast, we don't have many Mexican immigrants. We do have a large population of Brazilian immigrants. As an affordable housing advocate, I have come to know many and the challenges they face. I am routinely told of landlords who charge $700 to $800 a month for a bed in a house, with 15 to 20 people filling the house. I know of employers who hire Brazilians then refuse to pay them and refuse to pay for medical care if someone is injured on the job. These employers do not purchase the manditory workmens comp insurance. This is a resort area. Without the Brazilians (and Jamacians, Costa Ricans, etc.) most of the nessessary labor that keeps our tourist industry running smoothly would not get done. They are not taking jobs away from Americans. I don't know of a single high school kid who isn't able to get a summer job.

The majority of immigrants want nothing more than to contribute to the community. They would have prefered to remain in their homelands but are here so they can feed their families. Many young men come alone, after their entire extended families have scraped together the money to get them here. What they are able to earn at even the lowest paid jobs, feed whole families back home. Most work 2 and 3 jobs and work 18 hour days. They have build a strong community here that supports each other and they contribute a great deal to the local economy and community. As for that myth of free medical care? They sure don't get it here! Every Monday at the local hospital, there is a line of Brazilians waiting to make their small payments on what they owe. My friend who works in the billing office tells me that the only people who don't pay their bills are the Americans.

The current wave of immigrants are people, no different than my Irish great-grand parents who fled Ireland. People looking to survive and raise their children out of poverty.

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» Very good post Posted by: HeroesAll
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Correction
Posted by: bjoens on Jul 24, 2006 6:15 AM   
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Mostly a good piece on current immigration issues. However, starting off the piece with an error does not help the cause. The quote about using an electric fence on the U.S.-Mexico border can be attributed to Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa). I live in Iowa and read about his comments in last week's Des Moines Register. There is no Steve Katz listed as a member of the current House of Representatives.

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notfree
Posted by: losingmyliberties on Jul 24, 2006 7:41 AM   
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I'm so sick of the race card, the lack of pigment in are skin makes us lighter so where all lumped togther and called white by the true raceist. To me race does not matter, it personality that maters. When you come to this country illegally , you deserve nothing. That's the federal goverment the biggest promouters of raceism, they dont want unity. You broke the law when entered the country , and if the goverment dont enforce it, then I should not have to be enslaved by there laws . Liberty and justice for all what a joke!!!!!!

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» Can illegals be racist? Posted by: fenix
tortilla
Posted by: Cayliffe on Jul 24, 2006 8:18 AM   
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Many people have been tricked into believing this to be a critical issue. It is a Republican talking point designed to take your attention away from other more important national issues.
America is less than 8% of the world's population but consumes more than 45% of the world's natural resources. In order to support this bloated and unbalanced economic platform, immigrants serve in situ so that our fat, lazy, white, x-box playing children don't have to go out to pick lettuce, clean restaurant tables, change our hotel linens or wipe the asses of our institutionalized aging parents.
There is no immigration crisis. Immigrants, in general, or rather, Mexicans, because that is what we are talking about here, have an astonishing work ethic, tremendous respect for the United States, a deeply vested interest in the common good and are historically absorbed after the first generation.
It is very, very difficult to work without papers at any meaningful level above the lowest paying jobs. Undocumented immigrants are not trying to sell you insurance, sell you a house, operate on your kidneys or do your taxes. This economy needs immigrants to do the jobs Americans refuse to do. It is an idiotic argument that shows a huge disconnect in how Americans receive the goods and services they have come to depend on, and the source of labor that supplies it, i.e. iceberg lettuce for 80 cents a head or dinner in a nice restaurant for less than $100.
The Social Security Administration has accrued billions of dollars of collected payments from undocumented workers over the years, knowing full well that they will never have to pay this money out. Do you think they do not know this?
The reason this 'block the border' argument is "racist" is beacuse there has been virtually no effort to secure our border with Canada, the 9-11 terrorists entered this country legally and most Americans continue to refuse to absorb immigrants who do not look or sound like themselves.

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re: racism: if the shoe fits....
Posted by: halophoenix on Jul 24, 2006 9:53 AM   
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you can't hide it.

Sorry, the author is spot on. Try to deny it as much as you like, but this is one shoe that fits too well to not wear.

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» Right..... Posted by: pzo
Reconquista baby!
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Jul 24, 2006 12:03 PM   
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I sincerely hope all the immigrants, legal and illegal alike, won't come to be blamed for the inevitable implosion of the US economy. No, we have done that to ourselves. If you ask me, the average illegal immigrant who can't construct a grammatically correct english sentence is a step above a lot of americans. Especially the "lets bomb all the I-rabs.... turn em into a parkin lot" idiot redneck trueblood 'merkins that rush out to vote against same sex marriage at any cost. The rediculous arguments, the nonsense, so many completely clueless people supporting a bunch of triggerhappy zionists and neocons who just want to screw us over behind our backs. No, the illegals can't get much worse than that. But I fear they will be blamed for something they did not do.

Our country can handle immigrants. But not if we keep shipping jobs overseas and letting the elite wealthy loot every bit of wealth that we've amassed in this great nation. The rich cannot be allowed to own everything, because it's too easy for them to leave when the going gets rough. And what happens to our country when the rich leave us all hanging here with not a damn dime? Just remember this: jobs are what create long term wealth. And not one immigrant has caused any of the tens of millions of jobs we had to go overseas. You can't say the same for any of the guys in the board rooms.

The only real problem I have with illegal immigration is this idea some of them have... this idea which happens to be sponsored by the mexican version of right wing hate media extremists (picture a spanish speaking Coulter or Limbaugh)... this idea they call La Reconquista. Ever heard of The Plan of San Diego? The people who buy into that nonsense are the mexican equivalent of the typical uninformed uneducated mississippi bush-loving god fearing "lets blow up all the a-rabs and mexicans and those daggone can-ay-diens too." It's important to note that these purely racist thoughts are only ideas... or memes. They are what need to be destroyed, not the people who carry them. As soon as everyone realizes that, we might begin to figure out how to live together in peace.

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A Modern Day Witchunt?
Posted by: Gravitas on Jul 24, 2006 12:41 PM   
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We have heard the term "witchhunt" so often we have become immune to it. From the sociological perspective, a witchhunt is part of a greater phenomena known as a deviance scare. This happens when societies start to fall apart, or change happens too rapidly and norms break down. Society rallies around persecution of the "deviants" to provide itself with temporary unity; the "other" unites the rest. The European witchhunts were said to be in part a result of rapid change that was going on in that period. As the Roman Empire crumbled, the persecution of Christians intensified. Prohibition and McCarthism also took place in decades of change. Right now we have phemomenal change. Both in terms of new technology we have not worked our rules for, and our institutions breaking down. Like the complete loss of credibility of the Catholic Church. We too seem to be engaging in witchhunts. The hysteria over obesity may be part of this phemonema and so may these extreme reactions we have to immigrants. The problem is society can only recognize deviance scares in retrospect, after we have adjusted to the changes and are no longer in immediate danger of social dissolution. Only then can we realize how irrational our fears are, and how innocent people have been demonized for nothing. Not to say there are never valid issues that get exagerated, certainly during McCarthism it was reasonable to be cautious of Communists in an era of cold war. But the fear was taken to levels of hysteria. We may not want open borders, some labor leaders think that too many workers tip the balance in favor of employers. But again, our fears are being taken to levels of hysteria and human beings are treated with cruelity they don't deserve. If we have to rally around something, why not make CO2 the enemy? Maybe we could have a historical first and use the momentium from our hysteria to save the planet.

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It's not right to lie about supposed lying
Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 24, 2006 1:15 PM   
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Studies in state after state show that immigrants pay their fair share of taxes.

Actually, a UNC study proved that for the state of North carolina at least, which has 400,000 illegals, the cost to the state of allowing citizens to remain illegal is higher than the taxes paid. This cost includes education and health care.

"Hispanics, legal and illegal, cost state taxpayers $817 million in 2004, with education and health care being the biggest expenses. Meanwhile, Hispanics generated $756 million in tax revenue. According to the report, that averages out to a cost to the state budget of $102 per Hispanic resident."

http://www.newsobserver.com/1155/story/411982.html

Of course, the newspaper points out that much of the low wages paid to illegals is passed along to the consumer. What is also passed along is wage depression for leggal workers.

But then again, everyone knows that the entire UNC system and the Raleigh News and Observer are just racist.

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Six immigration lies dispelled
Posted by: willymack on Jul 24, 2006 1:48 PM   
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I don't care about any of the above. The truth is that our country already has far too many people as it is. Just look at the legions of the poor people with no medical insurance, dead-end jobs or no jobs, our inadequate and worsening public schools, rampant crime-both on city streets and in government, and a never-ending war against imaginary foes. What's needed is a complete moratorium on immigration from ANYWHERE until such time as


everyone here gets a fair shake and the fools in government are replaced by truly qualified, compassionate, and fair-minded people. Our "frontier" disappeared a long time ago; the wild west of vast empty spaces has gone the way of Hopalong Cassidy. The addition of more people to ANY place only makes things worse-not better.

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