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Would You Eat Lab-Grown Meat?

By Traci Hukill, AlterNet. Posted July 12, 2006.


Scientists growing meat in petri dishes say it's safer, healthier, more humane and less polluting. But can we get past the 'yuck' factor?
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As I type these words, men and women of science are growing meat in a laboratory. That's meat grown independently of any animal. It isn't hatched or born. It doesn't graze, walk or breathe. But it is alive. It sits growing in a room where somebody has called it into existence with a pipette and syringe.

"Cultured meat," it's called, and it is supposed to save us from the execrable pollution and guilt of factory farms while still allowing all 6.5 billion of us to stuff our gullets with ham sandwiches whenever we want to. It already exists in ground or chipped form. What Dutch scientists are working on now is a product that costs a few dollars per pound instead of a few thousand. It could be as little as five years away.

The concept is as simple as it is horrifying. Take some stem cells, or myoblasts, which are the precursors to muscle cells. Set them on "scaffolding" that they can attach to, like a flat sheet of plastic that the cells can later be slid off of. Put them in a "growth medium" -- some kind of fluid supplying the nutrients that blood would ordinarily provide. "Exercise" them regularly by administering electric currents or stretching the sheets of cells mechanically. Wait. Harvest. Eat.

It seems like something out of a chilling sci-fi future, the very epitome of bloodless Matrix-style barbarism. But growing flesh in a petri dish is an old idea from the early 20th century that received a fresh infusion of, how you say, growth medium in 2002. As part of a NASA-funded experiment to find a portable source of animal protein for astronauts, Touro College biology professors Morris Benjaminson and James Gilchriest sliced a bit of muscle from the abdomen of a goldfish and set it in a saline solution enriched with fetal calf serum. Over several weeks the muscle grew about 15 percent. Another muscle growing in a maitake mushroom solution did almost as well.

To determine whether the product was remotely appetizing or would be too repulsive even for space station humanoids to eat, Benjaminson and Gilchriest convened a panel of female employees, chosen for their gender's presumed pickiness and demonstrably superior sense of smell. Gilchriest, who used to be a professional chef ("He makes great calamari," says Benjaminson), breaded the tiny filet and sauteed it in extra virgin olive oil. He finished with a squeeze of lemon and a dash of pecorino cheese.

"And it smelled good to them," Benjaminson says. Understandably, the ladies were not asked to eat the "fish."

Whatever one's response to the idea of meat grown in a petri dish --revulsion seems to be a common one -- there are also some compelling reasons in favor of it.

"It's cleaner, healthier, less polluting and more humane," says Jason Matheny, a doctoral student in agricultural policy at the University of Maryland who sits on the board of New Harvest, a research organization for in vitro meat.

Meat grown in the sterile environment of a laboratory wouldn't harbor zoonotic diseases like avian flu or contribute to antibiotic resistance, Matheny says. As for human health, artery-clogging beef fat could be swapped out in vitro for salmon fat, for example, with its salubrious omega-3 fatty acids. And the squalid misery of factory farms could be bypassed altogether. No river would be fouled with manure and no chicken's beak would be clipped in the making of dinner.

These are important considerations. All the problems associated with modern meat production -- like the 64 million tons of manure excreted each year by factory farmed animals in the United States alone -- are poised to worsen as the earth's population heads toward 9 billion people by 2050. As up-and-coming nations like China and India develop large middle classes that adopt Western habits of consumption, that translates to an exponential rise in meat eaters and factory farms over the next 45 years.

Add it all up, and some people find cultured meat a splendid idea.

Bruce Friedrich, vice president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, calls it "the best thing since sliced bread." Friedrich, who energetically denounces the eating of "animal corpses" every chance he gets, says that "anything that takes the cruelty out of meat-eating is good."

There are a couple of serious problems with cultured meat, though, starting with the fact that people seem to find the idea repellent.

"Yeah," Matheny admits. "There's a 'yuck' factor involved with producing any novel food."

Presented with the argument that cultured meat just ain't natural, Matheny gamely counters that wine and cheese are engineered products, too.


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Traci Hukill is a freelance journalist based in Monterey, Calif.

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Good idea
Posted by: nbrown on Jul 12, 2006 12:26 AM   
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I like it!

This comes with less baggage than the existing system. If you don't believe me, go work in a slaughterhouse for a minute.

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» RE: Good idea Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: Good idea Posted by: Swatopluk
We already have lab grown kids. Why not?
Posted by: prod on Jul 12, 2006 1:25 AM   
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We already have lab grown kids.

Why not meat?

I bet it will never be as good as the veal my girlfriend makes though. It is the best!

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» The question is, would you eat lab-grown kids? Posted by: four_legs_good_two_legs_bad
Robert A. Heinlein
Posted by: JamesRollins on Jul 12, 2006 1:39 AM   
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When I was eleven years old I read a book by the name of "Revolt in 2100" by Robert Heinlein. In the second story of that book(named Coventry) the main protagonist talks about this same thing. And in the future, people(most of them anyway) eat lab-grown meat.
As I grew up, I became a struggling vegetarian, mainly out of moral issues, and I used to think back to this book and truly wish that it was a reality. How I could truely enjoy a guilt free hamburger, only if an animal didn't die to make such a burger. I say amen! Finally, and when it becomes less costly, my family and I will fully enjoy lab-grown meat.

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» RE: at beef. It is best for the cows. Posted by: Fishbone Soldier
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» Better Protein Posted by: ChristopherLL
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No kill; therefore no "yuck"
Posted by: BlueStateBitch on Jul 12, 2006 3:17 AM   
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It will be wonderful to eat "meat" without an animal having to die a painful death. Protein is protein. As long as it's healthy and tastes good, who cares if it's been grown in a lab?

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» Whose logic? Posted by: BlueTigress
Biased article?
Posted by: davidhobby on Jul 12, 2006 3:58 AM   
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This wasn't reportage, so much as a long screed about how awful , yucky, revolting, vile, ... lab grown meat was. That's news to me, though. I'm surprised that it seems most people have this attitude.

To me, meat is meat. But then I've been a vegetarian for many years. Since I do it partially for ethical reasons, I guess that I'd eat cultured meat. It seems every culture gladly eats the "familiar" meats, which may be bugs, blood or whatever, but that unfamiliar meats are considered gross. It's interesting that people don't have a big problem with unfamiliar vegetables.

My one worry is the same as that of the "breaded cow" post, above. Cultured meat could be a step toward a world with a huge number of humans and no other animals. Now THAT would be revolting!

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Maybe it's just me
Posted by: Lizmv on Jul 12, 2006 4:08 AM   
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But human insanity seems to be a growing threat. People are getting weirder every day. Yeah, growing a little bit of "meat' in a laboratory may be nice and clean, but what will it look like when it is produced in huge factories? Most likely as dirty and detrimental as factory farming is now. Why is it we keep looking for expensive solutions to problems caused by the insanity of economic growth that will only continue the insanity? The real solution is already known: Learn to live sustainably. This is just another scheme by the mega-corportations to further control our food supply.

OK, I was reading Wendell Berry last night, "An Essay Against Modern Superstition". No, I don't want everyone to go back to living in caves and become hunters/gatherers. I want sustainable living to become the cultural norm. Local control of the food supply. Empowerment and localized control of economics, not control by the upper class.

Interesting that this morning, Alternet is running a little story about Sir Keith Joseph, the father of 'Thatcherism' having been afflicted by Asperger's syndrome.
"In the mid-1970s, Joseph set up the Centre for Policy Studies which developed the free market ideas of the US economist Milton Friedman and impressed them on Mrs Thatcher.

"His ideas have influenced politics for 20 years. Monetarism has some of the characteristics of Asperger's in its insensitivity and its harshness - that is my point, the man and what he does in life are one. It is important to know this because these people control the destiny of the nation," Professor Fitzgerald said."

So today's global economic situation was heavily influenced by a man who lacked the ability to interpret social situations or to empathise with other people. No wonder we are in such a mess and that fake meat would been seen as a solution.

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currently
Posted by: gilliani on Jul 12, 2006 4:09 AM   
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It makes me nervous. There is a great deal we don't know about long term consequences of engineered food, veggies included. I feel it's safest to eat locally produced, organic food as much as possible.

I am a vegetarian, but I also worry about the fate of all the animals we have now on farms if everyone gave up meat. We (the big we, that is) have created this method of raising animals. Those animals have lots of babies, and they're good at it. If everyone stopped eating meat, what would happen to all those animals? Will the farmers continue to feed and care for them until they die natural, peaceful deaths of old age? Maybe, but I doubt it.

My point is that it would take a huge cultural shift on many levels to get the carnivorous guts of North Americans off meat, and I'd rather see us make that cultural shift gradually while considering the condition of existing livestock.

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end up
Posted by: rsaxto on Jul 12, 2006 4:18 AM   
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Maybe we will end up eating ourselves (steaks grown from our own cells). Would it taste good or not - only cannibals know for sure.

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I would love it.
Posted by: Samantha Vimes on Jul 12, 2006 4:22 AM   
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I'm a vegetarian, and there's no fake salami that tastes like the real thing. These cultured meats would be meat, but they would not be part of an animal.
I'd eat it. I don't even understand the ick factor. Laboratory meat doesn't have feces ground up in it, and never got a parasite infection. It seems far less icky than carcasses.

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» RE: I would love it. Posted by: aonghus36
» RE: I would love it. Posted by: nickptar
When will we get our gren crackers?
Posted by: deo508 on Jul 12, 2006 4:37 AM   
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See the movie SYLENT GREEN. Oh no! there feeding us people!
What hell, WalMart sells baby oil made from virgin (first press) Chinese babies why not eat labratory meat?

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» RE: u can't be serious Posted by: deo508
mmmmmmmm...Mystery meat.....
Posted by: sausage on Jul 12, 2006 5:33 AM   
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Cultured meat can't be all that much difference that what's found between two enriched-flour buns at any McDonalds.

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» RE: mmmmmmmm...Mystery meat..... Posted by: BlueTigress
Terrytom
Posted by: terryton on Jul 12, 2006 5:54 AM   
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Soylent Green has arrived. Although this may be a great deal more palatable than the “real stuff. At this time for many additional reasons I would favor powerful worldwide birth control policies.

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» Get your SciFi right Posted by: YogiBear
meat
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Jul 12, 2006 6:00 AM   
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The problem here is that meat is muscle, and you can't just grow muscle statically. It has to do work in order to grow naturally. And that's really what we want--something that can grow naturally. I know it sounds weird, growing natural meat in a lab... what I mean is without the use of steroids.

I really don't think it can be done, because in order to grow optimally, a muscle needs blood and (relatively) high temperature, which is inviting for parasites. Without the body's complex immune system who knows what could happen.

And the sheer amount of energy required to grow meat would only underscore how expensive this stuff is. Animals, on a massive scale, consume mindnumbingly staggering amounts of resources. The middle class is rapidly approaching a point where they will not be able to afford to eat any kind of meat regularly.

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» RE: meat Posted by: specialcowboy
» RE: meat Posted by: nickptar
Pick a Real Problem.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Jul 12, 2006 6:03 AM   
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I wondered why the author went to such great pains to make cultured meat sound totally revolting, till he presented his alternative - a mostly vegetarian world.

I would eat it. It is certainly better than any genetically modified food, and should taste almost exactly like meat that is butchered from the animal, without the (revolting?) veins, gristle and bone chips.

The bigger problem is the 9 billion people in a world that can only sustain 1 billion. Let's try to find a humane solution to that one.

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» Better than GM food? Posted by: antiapathy
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Yuck factor - think about it
Posted by: nim1 on Jul 12, 2006 6:06 AM   
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I will have no hesitation eating lab grown meat. When you think about eating the meat of animal that was grown inside another animal - well, lab grown meat just doesn't have a Yuck! factor.

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De Humanizing Humankind.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jul 12, 2006 6:15 AM   
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Why not just eat the dead? There are 6 plus billion people. If we start eating the dead, we could save all that energy.

We don't need technologies which make our lives only sustainable; we need technologies that help us be happy. I would not be happy eating in vito meat.

I want to enjoy my life. Happiness depends upon feeding my instinctive needs as well as my mental needs.

This idea is a waste of resourses. Put these science onto the problem of population reduction.

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» RE: Kuru Posted by: benzene
soylent green is...
Posted by: lordzombie on Jul 12, 2006 6:16 AM   
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maybe eating people is a good idea, although, their diets would have to improve significantly, we can feed people this cultured meat, then eat the meat that results.

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Cultured Meat
Posted by: drsbanerji on Jul 12, 2006 6:28 AM   
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The substitution of conventional animal flesh with cultured meat is so humane that 'yuck factors' should be put aside.

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» RE: Cultured Meat Posted by: aonghus36
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Issues, Pro and Con and a rant
Posted by: goldgrif on Jul 12, 2006 6:36 AM   
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Again we are making a good thing?
Let us see,nuclear power good, oh, except the horrible spent fuel rods and and issue with human error. Factories to increase income, oh excpet for pollution, wage cuts, etc
We can look at both sides and say GREAT.
But the truth is we really dont know what this is, nor what can possibly become, look at biotech now, GM crops are not working very well. Insects have adapted to genetically enhanced crops so more pesticides need to be dumped on them.
What about a form of bioterroism in the meat itself.
As for clean rooms, after time, people get lazy, forget this or that. Heck men walk into vats of nitrogen, freely.
Yes, This would be a great idea, but like all biotech, needs to be fully explored and not thrown into the public market, till we know the effects.
And not that we can grow the food, what about the animals, we won't "need" anymore, should we get rid of them? Use all that wasted space on human habitat?
WE are loosing all forms of old farm animals for convience, and heirloom breeds may be important for various genetic material.
Man is a good manipulator, but his actions often go farther than his sight of the future.
Until I see that this is really a "good" thing,
I will go to that FAMILY farm and get my eggs, and meat. Or if I choose to be a meat eater, I will offer thanks to that animal that feeds me, and treat it as what it isi nstead of a part of life that man wants to play with, but doesn't seem to really care about.
Rant follows, be aware!!!
For all you meat eaters, have you been to a slaughter?
It is never pretty, but all meat eaters should, to understand really what it is, to take a life to live.
I am a meat eater, not much, I go to farm, help with the slaughter, and say thanks. I help feed the animals. Etc
This tech shows a disregard to a basic premise of returns for life, and like the plastic wrapped food, false colored food in a supermarket, keeps life as far away from you as possible.

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Soylent Green is made of PEOPLE!!!
Posted by: antiapathy on Jul 12, 2006 6:40 AM   
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my biggest concern is that the meat-gineers are going to start using gorilla placentas or some part of the human genome to more efficiently grow our steaks. And just what are they feeding these muscles anyway? recycled criminals and drifters, I bet.

Here's an idea: Instead of safeguarding our appetites and engineering our meat, let's safeguard our meat and engineer our appetites.

that's just crazy talk! why would we want a sustainable food chain? people have an unalienable right to a ham sandwich whenever they feel like it. I'm pretty sure it's in the Constitution.

Seriously though, our appetites have been engineered. And now we're addicted to big macs and coke and babyback ribs (barbeque sauce!). The big ag corpos want us to eat hormone-treated, anti-bioticized, beak-removed and manure spewing products. and they don't care how many people die of mad-cow or bird-flu. Just as long as we keep eating what they're selling.

So in short, your brilliant idea of eating less meat and more sustainably is not likely to take root in our current culture of consumption. But I'm on board, if that helps. Pass the veggie nuggets!

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» RE: Soylent Green is made of PEOPLE!!! Posted by: truly scrumptious
But can it be delicious?
Posted by: Serafim Tkachuk on Jul 12, 2006 6:46 AM   
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After seeing it as a stock ingredient in a lot of science fiction (e.g. Iain M. Banks' "The Culture novels"), the idea has almost no Yuck Factor for me, and the ethics of eating non-sentient cellular protein seems pretty well cut and dried. There are other things I'd wonder about, though.

Will it be every bit as delicious as naturally raised? Will the texture be equivalent? Will cooking techniques have to be altered? Will the process and production of the growth medium ultimately use fewer resources than naturally raised meat? Does the process use less energy? Are there evironmentally problematic by-products? Will meat cultures be safe from biological attack and contamination? How will the health of the culture be maintained? Will production be possible only in a centralized, massive factory or will local production be feasible? What about home production units? If it's less delicious than naturally raised, will the poor be relegated to eating it while the rich eat tasty -- and expensive -- naturally raised meats?

And, last but not least, if we can grow a perfectly delicious filet mignon that's healthier in every way and truly less burdensome on the planet's resources than naturally raised, will we be able to grow "long pig" and popularize a long maligned culinary tradition?

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» RE: But can it be delicious? Posted by: morticia
Cell culture isn't free of animal products, you know...
Posted by: zinnia on Jul 12, 2006 7:09 AM   
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As part of a NASA-funded experiment to find a portable source of animal protein for astronauts, Touro College biology professors Morris Benjaminson and James Gilchriest sliced a bit of muscle from the abdomen of a goldfish and set it in a saline solution enriched with fetal calf serum. Over several weeks the muscle grew about 15 percent. Another muscle growing in a maitake mushroom solution did almost as well.

For those of you thinking that cultured meat does not involve animals, read the above paragraph again. A lot of research-scale cell culture involves animal sera (a purified product from the blood of various animals), because there are a lot of growth factors and such in sera that are essential to culturing some types of cells. Fetal calf serum (a byproduct of the beef industry) is probably the most commonly used one. Of course, I expect that if in vitro production of meat went large-scale, they would use one of the serum-free media that have been developed (it would be cheaper, and more "defined" in content for QC purposes). However, a lot of the chemicals and growth factors used in tissue culture are ultimately animal-derived (for example, the gelatin used to coat dishes to allow the cells to stick to them comes from animals, pigs usually). Also, consider where the cells have to come from in the first place - unless these folks have come up with an "immortal" cell line that divides indefinitely without changing its characteristics, they would occasionally have to get cells from an animal. So, I wouldn't be certain that cultured meat would be what you consider "cruelty-free."

Personally, I will stick to eating in vivo meat. I am fortunate to have a store nearby that sells great locally-raised, hormone-free meat, and we limit our meat consumption. It seems to me that cultured meat is a waste of effort that could be devoted to, for example, organ culture for people who need replacement organs (there was a great NYT article about this yesterday).

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» This is simply not GMO. Posted by: truly scrumptious
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I'd rather have
Posted by: cyberfactotum on Jul 12, 2006 7:41 AM   
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I'd rather have a meat grown lab ;-)

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Get rid of the animals, what!!!
Posted by: jpinder on Jul 12, 2006 7:58 AM   
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I knew someone would say that, what do we do with all the cows, you make it sound like they're empty beer bottles. SIMPLY SET THEM FREE.

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» RE: Get rid of the animals, what!!! Posted by: truly scrumptious
We're gonna need it
Posted by: tanstaafl28 on Jul 12, 2006 8:01 AM   
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With all these "safety" and "healthy living" initiatives being pushed these days, we're going to have to come up with some way of extending the food supply to keep up with all the people that aren't dying.

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so let me get this straight...
Posted by: Ghoulman on Jul 12, 2006 8:14 AM   
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Like genetically engineered seeds, the corporations wanna engineer meat. Now... ALL the food we eat will be owned by the corporations even before it's grown.

The farmer is cut out entirely. Insidious.

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» RE: so let me get this straight... Posted by: specialcowboy
» RE: so let me get this straight... Posted by: truly scrumptious
That's the silliest thing I've ever heard...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 12, 2006 8:33 AM   
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"Cultured meat," it's called, and it is supposed to save us from the execrable pollution and guilt of factory farms while still allowing all 6.5 billion of us to stuff our gullets with ham sandwiches whenever we want to.

Meh. Any idea how hard it is to keep cells alive in the lab, minus an immune system? You have to (expensively) supplement the (expensive) growth medium with multiple (expensive) antibiotics, and also supplement with (expensive) fetal bovine serum, or some of the new (expensive) plant-based substitutes.

You have to work with such cells in a sterile (expensive) hood, using glassware that someone on payroll has (expensively) sterilized or using (expensive) 1-use plastic ware.

And you still have to throw out your cultures once in a while because they get contaminated with myco or with mold/fungi.

And these cell cultures are exactly 1-layer thick, in spite of the (quite creative) syringe being introduced into the chicken leg beside the by-line.

Put yer' shirts back on, eco-evangelists. We're no where near growing meat for commerical consumption. Hopefully, we're a little closer to growing "meat" to replace human tissues...but that's a different "crusade" for the uber-greenies/human population restrictionists to oppose.

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Get real-real meat
Posted by: hartsmart on Jul 12, 2006 8:56 AM   
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The sign of the time--one fits all-- to hell with programmed, individual taste. I am a campaigner-- anti-obesity--have been at it for over a dozen years---that's when red meat was maligned, replaced with greens and grains-- we know the results!
Want more?---for Sale: The enlightening article--
REd MEAT PREVENTS OBESITY AND DIABETES!

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I'm Confused
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 12, 2006 9:01 AM   
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I prefer the vegetarian diet and will remain that way, but I'm confused as to what is so much more disgusting about eating flesh grown in a petri dish compared to confining in inhumane conditions, pumping full of drugs, and killing and consuming a sentient creature? Petri-dish flesh sounds much less disgusting and immoral to me!

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FANTASTIC IDEA... and the future, "yuck: factor or not
Posted by: xbj on Jul 12, 2006 9:13 AM   
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Imagine a world where you could eat any meat you wanted, without having to take life. Without having to expend the resources of raising that life, the resources of feeding that life, and disposing of the remains (now we simply prevent landfills from coast to coast being filled with remains by processing them into feed, turning animals into cannibals and exacerbating Mad Cow diesase.) Not to mention the methane alone produced by cattle herds increasing global warming.

Imagine a world where there would be no hunger anywhere, because of readily available tasty protein.

As far as the yuck factor, as time goes on the technology will reach a point where no one will be able to tell the difference between real prime rib and the laboratory "replicator" kind. It might take 20-30 years, but it will come.

Of course the elite will still have their secret ranches, and their butchers, and their illegal herds, but that will be only because of their endless thirst for blood, real blood. But that cannot be changed.

But for the rest of humanity, about the only drawback anyone can forsee would be a drastic reduction in the population of chickens, pigs, and cattle. But the ones that did live would be living lives of luxury incomparable with today's feed animals, as beloved pets and in zoos.

There is almost nothing at all bad you can say about this tremendous development and definitely a step up on the human evolution scale.

Those stone age naysayers can squawk all they want; this IS the future, and for once, it's something good for ALL who live on this planet.

Which is indeed something unique and very blessed in these horrific times, and deserves celebration.

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