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Patriotism and the Fourth of July

By Howard Zinn, AlterNet. Posted July 4, 2006.


The Declaration of Independence gives us the true meaning of a patriot, someone who supports a country's ideals, not necessarily its government.

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In celebration of the Fourth of July there will be many speeches about the young people who "died for their country." But those who gave their lives did not, as they were led to believe, die for their country; they died for their government. The distinction between country and government is at the heart of the Declaration of Independence, which will be referred to again and again on July 4, but without attention to its meaning.

The Declaration of Independence is the fundamental document of democracy. It says governments are artificial creations, established by the people, "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed," and charged by the people to ensure the equal right of all to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Furthermore, as the Declaration says, "whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it." It is the country that is primary--the people, the ideals of the sanctity of human life and the promotion of liberty.

When a government recklessly expends the lives of its young for crass motives of profit and power, while claiming that its motives are pure and moral, ("Operation Just Cause" was the invasion of Panama and "Operation Iraqi Freedom" in the present instance), it is violating its promise to the country. War is almost always a breaking of that promise. It does not enable the pursuit of happiness but brings despair and grief.

Mark Twain, having been called a "traitor" for criticizing the U.S. invasion of the Philippines, derided what he called "monarchical patriotism." He said: "The gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: 'The King can do no wrong.' We have adopted it with all its servility, with an unimportant change in the wording: 'Our country, right or wrong!' We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had -- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it, all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism."

If patriotism in the best sense (not in the monarchical sense) is loyalty to the principles of democracy, then who was the true patriot? Theodore Roosevelt, who applauded a massacre by American soldiers of 600 Filipino men, women and children on a remote Philippine island, or Mark Twain, who denounced it? Today, U.S. soldiers who are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan are not dying for their country; they are dying for Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld. They are dying for the greed of the oil cartels, for the expansion of the American empire, for the political ambitions of the president. They are dying to cover up the theft of the nation's wealth to pay for the machines of death. As of July 4, 2006, more than 2,500 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Iraq, more than 8,500 maimed or injured. With the war in Iraq long declared a "Mission Accomplished," shall we revel in American military power and insist that the American empire will be beneficent?

Our own history is enough to make one wary. Empire begins with what was called, in our high school history classes, "westward expansion,"a euphemism for the annihilation or expulsion of the Indian tribes inhabiting the continent, in the name of "progress" and "civilization." It continues with the expansion of American power into the Caribbean at the turn of the 20th century, then into the Philippines, and then repeated Marine invasions of Central America and long military occupations of Haiti and the Dominican Republic. After World War II, Henry Luce, owner of Time, LIFE, and Fortune, spoke of "the American Century," in which this country would organize the world "as we see fit." Indeed, the expansion of American power continued, too often supporting military dictatorships in Asia, Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, because they were friendly to American corporations and the American government. The record does not justify confidence in Bush's boast that the United States will bring democracy to Iraq.

Should Americans welcome the expansion of the nation's power, with the anger this has generated among so many people in the world? Should we welcome the huge growth of the military budget at the expense of health, education, the needs of children, one fifth of whom grow up in poverty? Instead of being feared for our military prowess, we should want to be respected for our dedication to human rights. I suggest that a patriotic American who cares for her or his country might act on behalf of a different vision. Should we not begin to redefine patriotism? We need to expand it beyond that narrow nationalism that has caused so much death and suffering. If national boundaries should not be obstacles to trade-- some call it "globalization"--should they also not be obstacles to compassion and generosity? Should we not begin to consider all children, everywhere, as our own? In that case, war, which in our time is always an assault on children, would be unacceptable as a solution to the problems of the world. Human ingenuity would have to search for other ways.

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Howard Zinn is a veteran of World War II and author of the bestselling book, A People's History of the United States. The following essay is an excerpt from Zinn's forthcoming book, A Power Governments Cannot Suppress.

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Happy 4'th of July
Posted by: Rolomax on Jul 4, 2006 2:38 AM   
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Just make sure you don't blow up anything larger than a coke can. Fireworks are illegal.

You could bring down upon yourself the ATF, FBI, and Homeland Security if you put out too much candlepower. You could also get sued.

Fear your neighbor and watch the 4'th on TV like everyone else.

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Invasion of the Philippines
Posted by: Rolomax on Jul 4, 2006 2:51 AM   
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The US didn't invade the Philippines. Technically speaking.

It was ceded to the US after the Spanish American War.

After which, I am ashamed to say, is something I never learned in grade school, even though I lived in the Philippines for 3 years as a kid (USAF dependant).

Philippine American War

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people
Posted by: rsaxto on Jul 4, 2006 3:38 AM   
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The people do not belong to the Bushies, the Bushies belong to the people who should insist that the congress impeach the Bushies for crimes numerous and bloody. We also need to insist that the Bushies and their Mexican puppets not steal the Mexican election like they have stolen so many other elections. On the 5th they will inform us that they have stolen the election by saying that the right person won when what they really did was toss out enough votes by the poor so that the rich win, as usual.

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God forgive America
Posted by: enzolima on Jul 4, 2006 4:26 AM   
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And bless everyone else, we've had enough and can't handle anymore belssing.

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» RE: God forgive America Posted by: MatthewSavage
Celebrate the 4th by reading "The People's History of The United States"
Posted by: greentime on Jul 4, 2006 4:43 AM   
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It is a true gift from a good man to the good people of this country and the world.

If you read Howard Zinns book, you will understand who we really are and will be able to be part of creating the country we desperately need to create. Do yourself and a friend a favor, buy his book... and buy one for someone you love.

I have given more copies of this book to people than any other. I consider it the most important book I ever read.

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» VERY NICE Posted by: Elmowilcox
Celebrate all our rights
Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 4, 2006 5:01 AM   
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Especially the first 15 ammendments to the Constitution, and, considering present company, Article 22: "No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice."

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» Key word: ELECTED Posted by: chasaturn
» RE: Celebrate all our rights Posted by: mtngoat
Why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan
Posted by: rightwing1 on Jul 4, 2006 5:09 AM   
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"Today, U.S. soldiers who are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan are not dying for their country; they are dying for Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld. "

And after Pearl Harbor were our armed forces dying for Roosevelt????

The world is not so Black & White. When a group professes to destroy America and then kills 3,000 Americans (911) are we to sit by and let that happen again or are we to do the best we can to prevent it?

I'm sadden to read on this site that most people here are more concerned with the hatred of their president then they are toward the real enemy, terrorists, Arab and otherwise!

While I hear criticisms such as from this excerpt I see no menaingful dialogue as to how to address our most pressing problem which is how to keep our country safe!

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» A useful idiot Posted by: chief of okeefe
ECLECTICIST, S. JIM RODRIGUEZ
Posted by: SJR505 on Jul 4, 2006 5:32 AM   
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AS A VIET-NAM VETERAN WITH TWO MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY AS MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS, I CAN SAY THAT I CAN IDENTIFY, NAME, AND DESIGNATE 535 MEMBERS OF OUR CONGRESS AS NONPATRIOTS... TWO DISTINGUISHED AMERICANS STATE WHAT I THINK AND REFLECT :

"IT CAN PROBABLY BE SHOWN BY FACTS AND FIGURES THAT
THERE IS NO DISTINCTLY NATIVE AMERICAN CRIMINAL CLASS EXCEPT CONGRESS." MARK TWAIN

General Dwight Eisnehower : "Every gun that is made, every warship that is launched, every rocket that is fired signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those that are cold and not clothed."

AND, STILL OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS OTHER GOVERNMENTS HAVE NOT LEARNED THE LESSON :"...WAR DOES NOT SOLVE OR PROVE ANYTHING, TODAY, TOMORROW, AND UNTIL THE END OFTHE EARTH..." REMEMBER, BUSH "SILVERFOOT" 43 - AKA- POSTER BOY FOR NEOCOMS, AND HIS CRONIES - STILL CLING TO THE MANTRA: MONEY,MONEY, AND MORE MONEY.. EVEN PRESIDENT HUGO CHAVEZ HAS IT RIGHT : "ANYTHING IN THE U.S. IS FOR SALE..."
ALSO, ALWAYS BEWARE WHEN THE WHITEHOUSE ANNOUNCES A PLAN FOR REFORMING ANY STANDARD, PROGRAM, ETC ...AND , THE MILTARY JARGON/ SLOGAN APPLIES : "B-O-H-I-C-A. B---O---H---I---C--A , AND MORE B=O=H=I=C=A"...

S+JIM+RODRIGUEZ+++ECLECTICIST SEEKER+++

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» Tell me, if you can... Posted by: ABetterFuture
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Yep
Posted by: hapibeli on Jul 4, 2006 6:46 AM   
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Howard Zinn hits the nail on the head. Our government, that's us, serve the corporatists and wealthy elites by allowing the Iraqs, Vietnams, etc., etc., etc.. Better sit back and watch another ball game, or reality show, soap opera, cop show, blah, blah, blah.

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Patriotism as denial
Posted by: daw13 on Jul 4, 2006 7:38 AM   
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The form that patriotism takes for most people, is passive acceptance of their government's ruthlessness on the premise that it can prevail if it wishes to. Zinn himself never questions the premise that OUR GANG is the toughest on Earth and can fuck people over to it's heart content -- unless we the people put a stop to their travesties. Ain't gonna happen!

Unless people understand that OUR GANG is only tough enough in the long run to control US -- to reduce us to poverty and misery, if necessary, as our economy plummets and the small share of gnp we own shrinks to almost nothing -- WE THE PEOPLE will go through the motions of disapproval, will allow ourselves to become coopted by distractive movements such as Moveon and Daily Kos, operations delivering funds to a new bunch of Democratic puppets -- but we will do nothing that requires any significant expenditure of energy.

Zinn's passion, therefore, is impressive but ineffectual. Tell us about the many ways in which WE THE PEOPLE are terribly vulnerable to the ravages of this Incumbency, which is no more than the latest manifestation of a ruling class policy in place for more than half a century, Howard. This is the history we need to become truly active.

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» Be Active...Donate Posted by: Joe Ox
july 4th wawa blog
Posted by: wawa on Jul 4, 2006 7:40 AM   
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The most revolutionary minded of all the founding fathers was the radical writer, Tom Paine. With flaming hopes, a vision of a new world and compelled by the spirit and determination of its people to resist British occupation, Paine devoted himself to the American cause. He began with a forty page pamphlet, Common Sense which emboldened the settlers to become compatriots and rise up in rebellion. His words formed a nation where democracy is still being defined.

“Soon after I had published the pamphlet Common Sense, [Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion… The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.”-Tom Paine

much more on july 4th wawa blog

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Teacher of the knowledge to develop human consciousness to enlightenment
Posted by: peaceyogi on Jul 4, 2006 8:11 AM   
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All those who say they want peace should do that which has been proven to create peace. And it will do it regardless of who is President. Look at www.uspeacegovernment.org, www.globalcountry.org, www.victorybeforewar.org, www.permanentpeace.org, www.mou.org. Do search for "bubbling bliss of yogic flying." Visit www.mum.edu. Stop discussing what's wrong and do that which has been proven to be able to end the violence man inflicts on mankind.

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INDIFFERENCE DAY
Posted by: Roverton on Jul 4, 2006 9:10 AM   
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GO TO THE PARK
LOOK AT THE FIREWORKS
IN THE SKY
REMEMBER HOW SOMEONE
FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM
AND THEN WATCH
THE TWILIGHT ZONE MARATHON.

SELL ME MY INDEPENDENCE
I WILL WAIT ON A LINE TO BUY IT
TELL ME HOW IT WORKS
I HAVE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN

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Oath of Office OR Oath of Secrcy?
Posted by: mite on Jul 4, 2006 9:11 AM   
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I wonder what oath our President and Congress are following as they allow our sovereign rights to be destroyed. In July 28, 1945 our Constitution was destroyed by our Senate with the approval and signing of the UN Charter, a Grandmother tried before these Senators to stop them, but failed. see-www.educate-yourself.org

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Always read the fine print!
Posted by: CovertRage on Jul 4, 2006 10:18 AM   
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Too often, the AmeriKKKan ideals of truth, liberty, and justice have been specifically tailored to advance the fortunes of occidental imperialism through governmental stabilization of the status quo. We tend, through the ages, to plaster a different face that befits and betrays the methods used in that era to perpetuate the glamorous pagentry of bread and circus that glosses over the bacchae attended only by the elite ruling classes and those fortunate enough to be thier most trusted slaves, explaing why coorporate executives gross salaries that shamefully exceed the gross national products of most third world nations. All this fascetious nonsense of the nationalistic conceit of everyday people chasing thier tails through a rat maze in feverish pursuit of the AmeriKKKan dream delude themselves when they believe that the experiment of AmeriKKKan democracy is anything but an neolithic abysmal failure, soon to end in utter disgrace. We need to soon conclude that the so-called last super power on the earth is little more than the globally sheltered, undereducated, ignoble rabid watch dog unleashed on the threats to the authority of the current ruling class, who dismiss us patriots as not only ugly, but rather stupid to boot.

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» How might it be better? Posted by: Joe Ox
Patriotism Agreed
Posted by: Joe Ox on Jul 4, 2006 10:22 AM   
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The point that patriotism reflects a fondness of country and not government is exactly correct. The points about the people being the ones who grant rights to the government rather than the opposite are exactly correct.
While debate about the war carries many forms and some of those forms have merit and lack merit on both sides (for example to claim 911 as justification, in and of itself, for Iraq is a non-starter), claims about the war being about greed, oil, and corporate profits are very shallow and seem like recycled anti-establishment fare from previous decades. The inclusion of notions that WWII is in any way similar to the Iraq war marginalizes the writer, regardless how one feels about WWII. Analogy may hold in a minute example, in the detail, but in the big picture, no way.
The troubling thing about accurate constitutional claims and references to other founding documents is the way that the side employing them here overlooks the enthusiastic way the left allows government to permeate all aspects of the daily lives of Americans. Arguably the left may see certain homeland security measures as an affront to rights, and though I may disagree with them, I can respect those points. At the same time though, from seatbelt laws, inane safety labels, inspections and permits for this and that, helmet laws, gun rights, child welfare laws, income redistribution via methodology nowhere found in founding documents and indeed never even ratified correctly as law or policy (this one especially), and the systematic removal of religious freedom based on nonexistent constitutional language about church state separation, it seems the left is just fine with policies and programs that impact literally every breath one takes (no smoking initiatives in one’s own home!).
Sadly both parties have succumbed to this big brother temptation where the government sits on the hill and deems what is “good” for the great unwashed. It isn’t good for the goose or the gander, and selective frustration carries nothing actionable. It is a rare instance when the masses on the left and the right become exercised about a like concept even for vastly different reasons.
Though the article is narrow in scope (war) it touches the heart of the problem here in the U.S.A., that being an expectation by the government that the governed need them, and by so many of the governed that they cannot make a move without the government. It is as unhealthy as a five year old going home from school at lunch to suckle the mother.

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what's wrong with this picture (statement)?
Posted by: dragonfly on Jul 4, 2006 11:00 AM   
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Read the last sentence in this paragraph of Zinn's and see if you can spot the contradiction:

Mark Twain, having been called a "traitor" for criticizing the U.S. invasion of the Philippines, derided what he called "monarchical patriotism." He said: "The gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: 'The King can do no wrong.' We have adopted it with all its servility, with an unimportant change in the wording: 'Our country, right or wrong!' We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had -- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it, all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism."

Twain was correct on one count - that patriotism is a grotesque and laughable word... but with all due respect to Twain who saw through more of the LIE than most people, he unfortunately dives off into inane contradiction when he tries to convince us there is a "respectable" side to this grotesque arrogance called patriotism - which is of course Zinn's equally grotesque doublethink premise: that true 'patriotism' (literally 'loyalty to the fatherland') is indeed "loyalty to democracy".

Morality progresses through four levels: 1)what is good for me 2)what is good for my in-group (family, nation-state, religion, gender, race, social class, community, etc.) 3)what is good for all humanity 4)what is good for Earth (the entire Web of Life). Patriotism/nationalism is level 2 'in-group morality' which separates ‘us’ from ‘them’ based on the belief we’re ‘different’ and ‘unique’.

Quotes on Patriotism/Nationalism

>> “Tribal nationalism [patriotism] always insists that its own people are surrounded by ‘a world of enemies’ - ‘one against all’ - and that a fundamental difference exists between this people and all others. It claims its people to be unique, individual, incompatible with all others, and denies theoretically the very possibility of a common mankind long before it is used to destroy the humanity of man.” -Hannah Arendt, The Origins Of Totalitarianism >> “Seas of blood have been shed for the sake of patriotism. One would expect the harm and irrationality of patriotism to be self-evident to everyone. But the surprising fact is that cultured and learned people not only do not notice the harm and stupidity of patriotism, they resist every unveiling of it with the greatest obstinacy and passion (with no rational grounds) and continue to praise it as beneficent and elevating. In its simplest, clearest and most indubitable signification, patriotism is nothing else but a means of obtaining for the rulers their ambitions and covetous desires, and for the ruled the abdication of human dignity, reason, conscience and a slavish enthrallment to those in power.” -Leo Tolstoy >> “Blind patriotism has been kept intact by rewriting history to provide people with moral consolation and a psychological basis for denial.” -William H. Boyer [blind patriotism, like violent war, is redundant]

>> “A patriot sets himself apart in his own country under his own flag, sneers at other nations and keeps an army of uniformed assassins (‘troops’) on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries and keep them from grabbing slices of his. In the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for ‘the universal brotherhood of man’ - with his mouth.” -Mark Twain, The Lowest Animal >> “One of the great attractions to patriotism, it fulfills our worst wishes. In the person of a nation we are able, vicariously, to bully and cheat while feeling [and proudly proclaiming] we are profoundly virtuous.” -Aldous Huxley >> “Patriotism means advocating plunder in the interests of the privileged class of your country.” -Ernest B. Bax

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More Quotes on patriotism/nationalism (two different words for the same thing)
Posted by: dragonfly on Jul 4, 2006 11:03 AM   
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“Patriotism is the belief that your country is superior to all others because you were born in it.” -George Bernard Shaw >> “Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on his own dunghill.” -R. Aldington >> “Patriotism is flag-cheering national self-assertion with no constructive duties.” -H.G. Wells >> “A nation is a society united by a delusion about its ancestry and a common fear of its neighbors.” -W. R. Inge >> “To me, it seems a dreadful indignity to have a soul controlled by geography.” -George Santayana

>> “Patriotism is a religion, the egg from which wars are hatched.” -Guy de Maupassant >> “Patriotism is the principle that justifies wholesale murder.” -Leo Tolstoy >> “Patriotism - the virtue of the vicious.” -Oscar Wilde >> “Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.” -Bertrand Russell >> “Born in iniquity and conceived in sin, nationalism has never ceased to bring humanity dissension and distress.” -Thorstein Veblin >> “Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy.” -George Bernard Shaw >> “Nationalism is an infantile disease.” -Albert Einstein >> “Patriotism is a menace to liberty.” -Emma Goldman >> “Patriotism is a survival from barbarous times which must not only be evoked and educated but which must be eradicated by all means – by preaching, persuasion, contempt and ridicule.” -Leo Tolstoy >> “Patriotism is fierce as a fever, pitiless as the grave, blind as a stone and as irrational as a headless hen.” -Ambrose Bierce

>> “Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in his nation; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.” -Schopenhauer >> “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” -Samuel Johnson >> “I submit that patriotism is the first refuge of a scoundrel.” -Ambrose Bierce >> “It is even worse – patriotism is the first, last and middle range of fools.” -H. L. Menken >> “Fundamentalism is the last refuge of a patriot.” -Subir Ghosh >> “I submit that fundamentalism is the first refuge of a patriot.” -dragonfly >> “The time will soon come when calling someone a patriot will be the deepest insult.” -Ernest B. Bax

>> “Patriotism is a superstition artificially created and maintained through a web of lies and falsehoods, robbing us of our dignity and increasing our arrogance and conceit.” -Emma Goldman >> “This disgrace … should be done away with at once. Heroism on command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism.” -Albert Einstein >> “Patriotism is a superstition, one far more injurious, brutal and inhumane than religion.” -Gustave Herve >> “What produces war is the desire for the exclusive good for one’s own nation - what is called patriotism. To abolish war it is necessary to abolish patriotism, and to abolish patriotism it is necessary first to understand that patriotism is an evil. Tell people that patriotism is bad and most of them will laugh and say: ‘Yes, bad patriotism is bad, but my patriotism is good!’” -Leo Tolstoy [using denial and Orwellian Doublethink - WAR IS PEACE / PATRIOTISM IS LOVE / PEACE IS PATRIOTIC / PATRIOTISM IS UNITY - to simultaneously accept two contradictory ideas. Patriotism (allegiance to the fatherland) is, at its simplest, identifying with political borders (your national in-group). Simply buying into artificial political borders (the conditioned belief that you’re an ‘american’) is patriotism. Patriotism is NOT ‘sense of place’, which is a natural connection with one’s immediate and local bio-region (territory).

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» More Quotes Posted by: Joe Ox
"as it is the fairest, so often is it the most suspicious..."
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 4, 2006 12:13 PM   
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Here's a quote from Sir Walter Scott that could be related to the current situation regarding no-bid contracts in Iraq - Oh for the opportunity to serve my country by servicing those contracts - it's my patriotic duty, really.

"Shortly after, Mr. Bradwardine remitted from Scotland a sum in reimbursement of expenses incurred in the King’s High Court of Westminster, which, although not quite so formidable when reduced to the English denomination, had, in its original form of Scotch pounds, shillings, and pence, such a formidable effect upon the frame of Duncan Macwheeble, the laird’s confidential factor, baron-bailie, and man of resource, that he had a fit of the cholic, which lasted for five days, occasioned, he said, solely and utterly by becoming the unhappy instrument of conveying such a serious sum of money out of his native country into the hands of the false English. But patriotism, as it is the fairest, so it is often the most suspicious mask of other feelings; and many who knew Bailie Macwheeble concluded that his professions of regret were not altogether disinterested, and that he would have grudged the moneys paid to the LOONS at Westminster much less had they not come from Bradwardine estate, a fund which he considered as more particularly his own. But the Bailie protested he was absolutely disinterested —

‘Woe, woe, for Scotland, not a whit for me!’

The Japanese author Inazo Notebe had this to say about the issue:

"Starting as Right Reason, Giri has, in my opinion, often stooped to casuistry. It has even degenerated into cowardly fear of censure. I might say of Giri what Scott wrote of patriotism, that "as it is the fairest, so it is often the most suspicious, mask of other feelings." Carried beyond or below Right Reason, Giri became a monstrous misnomer. It harbored under its wings every sort of sophistry and hypocrisy".

Patriotism might be better defined as having a sense of social responsibility, as opposed to existing in a chimpanzee state - though I am maligning chimps, who do form groups and look out for one another, just as humans do - except for the pyschotic dictator types.

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Howard Zinn is an American Treasure...
Posted by: jakrabit on Jul 4, 2006 2:04 PM   
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...may the fates give him another hundred years.

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WHAT'S IN A NAME?
Posted by: chanceny on Jul 4, 2006 3:33 PM   
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When 'patriotism' is invoked by those bushco power mad,obscenely greedy purveyors of death, destruction and calamatous chaos, it is so offensive. The message incessantly chanted to the base of believers in all - things -bush is plain. Right or wrong, your country needs you to defend and protect it. From who, from what and exactly for what need not be named cause the years of fear-induced paranoia planted by repeating, ad nauseum,platitudes denigrating any opposing thoughts have successfully cleansed all individual thought processes from coming into fruition. Their sense of patriotism makes them superior, completely on the side of the righteous warriors with whom they aspire to identify . The very conception of geography, that boundaries and borders historically change for numerous reasons, has no impact. it's as tho America is their god-given legacy. Bushco uses this misinforned moral minority to turn up the volume of hateful rhetoric against freedom-hating liberals. As long as they escape detection from the gaze of truth or their true believers actually see a publicly presented dose of reality, exposing under floodlights the true oz-like behind - the-scenes mendacious machinactions of their treasonous planning, those who are the true patriots will remain vilified as cut-and-runners and worse. Patriotism certainly applies to Every Country in the world and is not ours to claim. It goes hand in hand with religion as a divisive factor and together, this dynamic duo of double speak, have sparked all wars, since time itself has been recorded.

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Howard Zinn makes my day!
Posted by: djcranky on Jul 4, 2006 3:40 PM   
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Compassion and generosity must be extended to all, even those who appear to us as demons. Without exertion and wisdom we will flail at the monsters which we ourselves have created; the projections of our collective darkness and in doing so feed the fury and the flames.

PS.
Whenever I get the urge to Satanize the incorporated Amerikanistani masses I am wrenched from my righteous pulpit of disconnectedness by the lucidity of great human beings. Those humble yet venerable destroyers of illusion, (extra) ordinary housewifes and working peoples, poets and unstinting philosophers all those who refuse to submit to the tryanny, not only of dystopic governace but also of the Self.

Who would have thought that the simple (and always, in paradox, profound) instructions of ancient and venerable lamas might find company in the words of our modern, secular teachers?

Grant your blessings so that all may attain liberation.

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Do something REALLY Patriotic this Fourth of July!!!...
Posted by: TexasExPatriate on Jul 4, 2006 5:10 PM   
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Wanna do something to show your Patriotism this Independence Day? How about starting with knowing why we're celebrating and what our forefathers fought and died for. Try ACTUALLY reading the Constitution (not just what you think you know) and knowing what it means! Try this as a measure for how much we've been mislead and duped:

The United States is NOT a Democracy.
The Declaration of Indepence was NOT signed on July 4th
There is no such thing as 'Constitutional Rights'
The Federal Reserve Bank isn't even part of the government-it's a private Corporation.

A great place to start is Michael Badnarick's (Presidental Candidate 2004) free class on the Constitution on streaming video at: http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

Also www.wealth4freedom.com is an amazing (albeit a shocking eye-opener) site for information that every American Citizen should know...If you don't make an effort to change things you can't complain about the way they are!

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A Filipino
Posted by: NonAmericanKeepingInTouch on Jul 4, 2006 9:11 PM   
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Howard Zinn empowered me when he spoke against the atrocities done against my people in the Philippine-American War.As a Filipino, I send my greetings to all of you this Fourth of July...

and Howard Zinn....................umm, Thank You or should I say in my language, Maraming Salamat Po

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JPsPLACE
Posted by: JPsPLACE on Jul 5, 2006 1:53 AM   
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." --Theodore Roosevelt

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sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Jul 5, 2006 6:35 AM   
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According to Article 22 of the United States Constitution, Bush is entitled to 2 more terms. He was selected not elected in 2000 and stole the 2004 election

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Couch potato patriotism.
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Jul 5, 2006 7:47 AM   
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The US is filled with couch potato patriots that except anything that their leaders tell them whether it be and explanation of spin, war and it's "progress", legislation for class war (death tax), and slogans and cliches that they can repeat created by their favorite party. I don't see many people doing their own research about our history and adherance to the ideals of shared life, liberty and prosperity or the aversion from offensive actions to take the wealth of other nations for the sake of large multinational banks and corporations. I do not consider self proclaimed patriot to be patriots if all they can do is regurgitate the vitriol of their party without knowledge of our past and the protection of our Constitution and Bill of Rights or the understanding of what the Declaration of Independence was about, abolishing the mercantile system and colonialism.

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Not a happy Fourth of July anymore: RIP
Posted by: LMNOP on Jul 5, 2006 8:36 AM   
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I wrote some somewhat disillusioned words to another politically conscious, libertarian friend this week who wished me a happy 4th of July. I told him why that was no longer appropriate for me, and I thought that this might be a good place to run it up the flagpole for vetting or flaming.

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But I'm too busy worrying about protecting what little freedom and property that I still have from the government's incursions into my business that it would be ludicrous of me to celebrate freedom in the abstract, except perhaps as a remembrance, in memoriam, as we do for fallen veterans and presidents - not given the events of this decade (or this century or this millennium for that matter).

For this, perhaps an apt symbol would be the Statue of Liberty in a coffin with her arms folded over her chest and calla lilies in her dead, clasped hands. Or a dead eagle dangling from the power lines.

Speaking of modified national symbols to reflect the recent changes to America, I even have my own new flag design in mind in honor of neocon leadership.

The new flag is just a dark blue field like the night on a blood red background with brown oil stains spattered randomly on it. The stars are gone from their field in conscious imitation of the benighting of the American people's collective intellectual and spiritual faculties.

The white stripes, emblematic of purity, have been stained red with blood to match the red ones still there in a stripeless blood red field to represent the sea of innocent blood that America has spilled for corporate profit.

Since the cover on America's claim of purity and moral superiority has been outed for the lie that it is just like Dick and Karl outed Valerie Plame - since Bush has blown the cover off of that self-serving canard like Bill was blown by Monica - the white stripes of purity must be removed from the flag.

Instead of bravery, honor, purity, freedom, democratic rule, etc., qualities which simply no longer inhere in this nation today, our flag should stand for what we have instead: blood, oil and the darkness or the national collective mind that neocon propaganda has created.

Finally, just splatter oil over the whole thing and fly it upside down in honor of the "black is white and up is down" Orwellian world of the spooks in power. Now that's a flag that America could raise without feeling dishonest or hypocritical.

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Patriotism vs. Jingoism
Posted by: Megavolt on Jul 5, 2006 9:19 AM   
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Patriotism is "love of and devotion to one's country." This includes the right to say that things are wrong if I feel they are. I mean, I love my wife, but I feel free to criticize, and boy does she ever feel free to give me a piece of her mind.

Jingoism, however, is "extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent foreign policy; chauvinistic patriotism." This is not love. See the Wiki entry for Jingoism for a good run-down.

So, please do not confuse patriotism with jingoism. Don't let the bastards reframe this their way, too. Though it's probably too late...

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From Kings To Corps: Futile-ism To Crapitalism
Posted by: sheeplepeeple on Jul 5, 2006 9:36 AM   
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HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF AGAIN....
Posted by: sphoenix on Jul 5, 2006 1:05 PM   
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Here is a link to a treatise written in 1917 by Scott Nearing regarding WWI. Don't disregard this...it is the history of the beginning of our current situation. If you ever had a sense of deja vu...this will feel quite natural.

This shit has been going on for nearly a century in America...it won't end overnight, that's for sure...

http://www.bigeye.com/madness.htm

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Donate Howard
Posted by: Joe Ox on Jul 5, 2006 2:16 PM   
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Keep enough for a "nice" life and give all your money away Howard, adopting those "children" in the world that you say should be considered "ours". Lead by example, strip yourself of all save the slightest surplus of money and give the rest away, then appeal to others to do it as well. That sir is a movement people can get behind.

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The 230th July 4th
Posted by: PGC on Jul 5, 2006 5:31 PM   
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To my heroes :

Thomas Jefferson , Benjamin Franklin

Yea tho they roll in their graves at what is now happening in Freedom's greatest gift to Mankind : "WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS..." and the US Constitution as a model for its implementation.


May the usurpers be ALL charged with HIGH TREASON.

To a happy 230th anniversary.

Let there not be tears. The American people and others will have Jefferson, Franklin and their incomparable peers, prevail again. The American people and others, have common sense, Truth and justice.

Cheers!

Paul

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Who really is a terrorist?
Posted by: guerillaTHOUGHTterrorist on Jul 6, 2006 1:09 AM   
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We are blessed in this country of actually being safe. 9/11 was an irregular anomoly that just happened to float by under the nose of this current administration. Unlike what the biased opinion of the corporate-controlled media would like one to believe with their scare tactics of disinformation beamed into houses on the nightly news, they don't really care about reponsible journalism. Most newscasters are just figuredheads, puppets, if you will, getting their strings pulled every which way. The words coming out of their mouth are not even their own. Without their teleprompter, most would probably not even be able to form coherent sentences. But that might be too harsh of an indictment, and i digress. The fact of the matter is that the United States government is probably one of the largest terrorist organizations out in the world today following the second world war. Foaming at the mouth, a spewing ideologies such as freedon, democracy, and free trade while waving all of their military prowess at the rest of the world. What really do we as Americans have to fear? are we a war-torn country, fearing the facist regime who we can't oppose because the powers at be are backed by US government funds? The CIA has been at the forefront of terrorist activities around the globe. Secret wars that aren't revelaed until someone in government realizes that their have a pair, and decides to shed some light onto the brutal tactics of the United States Government. We were kind of at war with Vietnam during the conflict, yet our black-ops found their way into Laos and Cambodia. We were supposdly the bastion for freedom, yet we took out the legally elected Sandanistas because they just happened to be communists. Even in our own country, who really believes anymore that Oswald was the lone shooter who took out Kennedy? Most recently, we had the displeasure of finding out that the NSA has nothing better to do than to listen to our private phone calls, and is now currently trying to created detailed profiles of individuals through social networking sites such as MySpace. Besides 9/11 what was the last successful terrorist attack on America soil that originated from a foreign power? We remain ignorant of the daily kidnappings in Central and South America. Terrorist attacks occur far more frequently in Europe, so one really has to ask themselves the question, what interests are really trying to protect by supporting this current administration and their undying effort to exploit the fear caused by the collapse of the towers to further their own agenda? And that is the very definition of facism. What are our politicians than mere businessmen just trying to protect their investments. Just because they happen to be blessed with being born into families of influence, or just by being their "friends" they are given absolute freedom to rule, to obscure the Constitution, and use it as toliet paper. Not while i'm alive.

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The 4th of July and Back Stabbing Joe Lieberman flash game
Posted by: Zenseeker on Jul 7, 2006 5:46 PM   
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This is my first entry and happy July 4th to all of you. For this July 4th, I made this flash game where uncle Sam is seen throwing knives at Joe Lieberman called Back Stabbing Lieberman. Check it out at my site here: http://zenwire.com/flashmedia-lieberman.php. There are also other games there: bush rampage, bush-rice-terror, bush shootout, dancing bush and Blair and other political games as well. Feel free to comment for I plan to make more.

Anyways, back to the meaning of July 4th for my kids.

I was watching all the fireworks outside with my kids, and my 8 year old daughter asked me to explain what was Independence day all about. I gave her the story about colonial settlers under British rule and how we united with help to fight off the Brits and finally won our independence for the right to self rule. And when I told her that this is when our founding fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence, and she asked me what was that? I did not remember most of the words, but incredibly my wife did and we utter some of those magic words together. I told her that when I was a kid and read those words, I thought that they were the most beautifully written words I had ever read. And I told her that the meaning and values of that document was why I love America so much; this was the country that taught me what it meant to be equal and fair, good and just. But I also told her that half of it is no longer true, and my son, a typical Nintendo kid, interjected: “You mean, like Bush.” I did not even have to reply or convince him, somehow he already knew. In a way I should be glad that even my kids can see what is going on, but somehow I actually felt sad. Sad because they don’t know the full weight and tremendous implications of those words written so long ago. Sad because they don’t realize the power of words and the actions they can generate; and those specific words were so powerful that countless men have willingly died through the eons in their fleeting attempt to manifest and live out those words and its ideals. And sad because I grew up in a world full of idealistic ideas and enthusiasm, teaching us to not only help and improve ourselves, but all of humanity and mankind as well. Reaching the moon and back was just a small sampling of things to come. I am what I am is because of these words and it makes me sad to realize that my kids will not have these words and the absolute belief and trust in those very words (inscribed by our founding fathers) to guide and instill in them a sense of justice and equality. They know the world is not fair and they will never expect it to be fair. I have always hoped the world will be so, but I can no longer say this with a straight face to my kids that the world will be this way when they grow up or if it will ever even get any closer to those ideals; just like the moon is no longer feasible to travel to anymore, there is easy money to be made elsewhere subjugating the people of this planet.

After reading the Declaration of Independence at this site: http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html, it struck me that I was wrong in telling my daughter that half of it was no longer true. I actually thought that most of it is no longer true. For brevity, skipping the preamble and just going through the grievances, I saw many justifiable grievances then that equally apply to now, the year 2006. Just read them for yourselves and see how many of them our government is guilty of or in the process of taking those very same rights away. I will mark the ones I feel they are guilty of in the next post because this one is too long, or goto zenwire.com to read the rest, Thanks.

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The rest of post from Zenseeker
Posted by: Zenseeker on Jul 7, 2006 5:50 PM   
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Continued from last post about grievances from the Declaration of Independence that I think our goverment is guilty of and Back stabbing Joe Lieberman Flash game at http://zenwire.com/flashmedia-lieberman.php

...Guilty: He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
Guilty: He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
Guilty: He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
Guilty: He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
Guilty: He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
Guilty: He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
Guilty: He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
Guilty: He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
Guilty: He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.
Guilty: He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
Guilty: He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
Guilty: For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
Guilty: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
Guilty: For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
Guilty: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighboring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

theres more but not enough room...

Ok that is enough for Independence day, and be sure to chech out all the political games at http://zenwire.com
Take Care,
Zenseeker

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All true
Posted by: owleyes on Jul 8, 2006 11:37 AM   
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Yet not new. I liked the part about Mark Twain. That I hadn't known. But your central thesis, that opposing one's government when it rejects the principles of democracy is the essence of patriotism--haven't we covered that territory? I think we've all pretty much been on the same page with that one since 2001. 2002 at the latest.

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How to get even more depressed than you already are
Posted by: cthelyt on Jul 8, 2006 5:03 PM   
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Google an online copy of the Declaration of Independence and read it. Note especially the list of grievances with King George III that the signers used to justify declaring the colonies a new country, and compare them to what our current George is doing, with the help of his henchmen and apologists in MSM, Congress, and just about everywhere else.

There. Feel worse? Forget "Don't Worry. Be Happy." Worry! Get Angry! Get moving because there's no time left.

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4th of July
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jul 10, 2006 5:42 PM   
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As part of the fourth, it is time to consider charges against our gov't. They violate the 5th and 8th Amendments by detaining prisoners without trial. They violate the 1st Amendment by pressuring Amazon to drop the book "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III and placing protestors in cages. The gov't violates the 4th Amendment by wire-tapping without probable cause. The gov't committed treason by starting 2 illegal wars based on a false-flag operation known as 9/11.
Remaining link (before Google Books removes it by force):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/
book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

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