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Three Iraq Myths That Won't Quit

By Scott Ritter, AlterNet. Posted June 26, 2006.


Election season has started, and the media won't stop telling us that Iraq is sovereign, that Zarqawi mattered, and that there were WMDs. So much for a debate about withdrawal.

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It is hard sometimes to know what is real and what is fiction when it comes to the news out of Iraq. America is in its "silly season," the summer months leading up to a national election, and the media is going full speed ahead in exploiting its primacy in the news arena by substituting responsible reporting with headline-grabbing entertainment.

So, as America closes in on the end of June and the celebration of the 230th year of our nation's birth, I thought I would pen a short primer on three myths on Iraq to keep an eye out for as we "debate" the various issues pertaining to our third year of war in that country.

The myth of sovereignty Imagine the president of the United States flying to Russia, China, England, France or just about any other nation on the planet, landing at an airport on supposedly sovereign territory, being driven under heavy U.S. military protection to the U.S. Embassy, and then with some five minutes notification, summoning the highest elected official of that nation to the U.S. Embassy for a meeting. It would never happen, unless of course the nation in question is Iraq, where Iraqi sovereignty continues to be hyped as a reality when in fact it is as fictitious as any fairy tale ever penned by the Brothers Grimm. For all of the talk of a free Iraq, the fact is Iraq remains very much an occupied nation where the United States (and its ever decreasing "coalition of the willing") gets to call all the shots.

Iraqi military policy is made by the United States. Its borders are controlled by the United States. Its economy is controlled largely by the United States. In fact, there simply isn't a single major indicator of actual sovereignty in Iraq today that can be said to be free of overwhelming American control. Iraqi ministers continue to be shot at by insurgent forces, and Iraqi police are powerless to investigate criminal activities carried out by American troops (or their mercenary counterparts, the so-called "Private Military Contractors"). The reality of this myth is that the timeline for the departure of American troops from Iraq is being debated (and decided) in Washington, D.C., not Baghdad. Of course, as with everything in Iraq, the final vote will be made by the people of Iraq. But these votes will be cast in bullets, not ballots, and will bring with them not only the departure of American troops from Iraq, but also the demise of any Iraqi government foolish enough to align itself with a nation that violates international law by planning and waging an illegal war of aggression, and continues to conduct an increasingly brutal (and equally illegitimate) occupation.

The myth of Zarqawi I have said all along that the poll figures showing Americans to be overwhelmingly against the war in Iraq were illusory. Only 28 percent of Americans were against the war when we invaded Iraq. The ranks have swelled to over 60 percent not because there has been an awakening of social conscience and responsibility, but rather because things aren't going well in Iraq, and there is increasing angst in the American heartland because we seem to be losing the war in Iraq, and no one likes a loser. So when the word came that the notorious terrorist, Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, was killed by American military action, the president suddenly had a "good week," and poll numbers adjusted slightly in his favor. However, the facts cannot be re-written, even by a slavish American mainstream media. Zarqawi was never anything more than a minor player in Iraq, a third-rate Jordanian criminal whose exploits were hyped up by a Bush administration anxious to prove that the insurgency that was getting the best of America in Iraq was foreign-grown and linked to the perpetrators of the 9/11 terror attacks nonetheless. The reality of just how wrong such an assessment is (and was) has been pounded home in blood. Since Zarqawi's death, the violence has continued to spiral out of control in Iraq, with Americans continuing to die, Iraqis still being slaughtered, and Zarqawi and his organization, successor and all, still as irrelevant to reality as ever. The war against the American occupation in Iraq is being fought overwhelmingly by Iraqis. The insurgency is growing and becoming stronger and more organized by the day. This, of course, is a reality that the Bush administration cannot afford to have the American people know about in an election year, as a compliant media, having sold its soul to the devil in hyping of the virtues of an invasion of Iraq back in 2002-2003, continues to dance with the party that brought them by supporting the Republican position, by and large, that the conflict in Iraq is a winnable one for America. Good ratings, more dead Americans (and Iraqis, but who is counting?) and a war that will never end until the United States finally slinks out, defeated, its tail tucked firmly between its legs.

The myth of WMD Regardless of what Sen. Rick Santorum and the lunatic neoconservative fringe want to think, no weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. Citing a classified Department of Defense report that claims some 500 artillery shells have been found in Iraq by U.S. forces since the invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq in March 2003, Santorum and his cronies in the right-wing media have been spouting nonsense about how Bush got it right all along, that there were WMD in Iraq after all. He conveniently fails to report that there is nothing "secret" about this data, it has all been reported before (by the Bush administration, nonetheless), and that the shells in question constitute old artillery munitions manufactured well prior to 1991 (the year of the first Gulf War, and a time after which the government of Saddam Hussein stated -- correctly, it turned out -- that no WMD were produced in Iraq). The degraded sarin nerve agent and mustard blister agent contained in the discovered munitions had long since lost their viability, and as such represented no threat whatsoever. Furthermore, the haphazard way in which they were "discovered" (lying about the ground, as opposed to carefully stored away) only reinforces the Iraqi government's past claims that many chemical munitions were scattered about the desert countryside in remote areas following U.S. bombing attacks on the ammunition storage depots during the first Gulf War. Having personally inspected scores of these bombed-out depots, I can vouch for the veracity of the past Iraqi claims, as well as the absurdity of the claims made today by Santorum and others, who continue to hold personal political gain as being worth more than the blood of over 2,500 dead Americans.

These three myths -- WMD, Zarqawi and Iraqi sovereignty -- are what members of Congress should be debating in their halls of power, the American media should be discussing either in print or across the airwaves, and that discussion should constitute the foundation of a movement towards accountability, where the citizens of the United States finally point an accusatory finger at those whom they elected to represent them in higher office, and who have failed in almost every regard when it comes to Iraq. But then again, silly me for thinking this way, believing that there was an engaged constituency within America that knows and understands the Constitution of the United States and seeks to live each day as a true citizen empowered by the ideal and values set forth by that document. I had overlooked the Fourth Myth -- that American citizens are engaged in our national debate.

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Scott Ritter served as chief U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 until his resignation in 1998. He is the author of, most recently, "Iraq Confidential: The Untold Story of the Intelligence Conspiracy to Undermine the U.N. and Overthrow Saddam Hussein" (Nation Books, 2005).

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So, why doesn't the USA quit Iraq?
Posted by: Rolomax on Jun 26, 2006 1:30 AM   
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We should use the billions of dollars we are spending on Iraq (or to be more accurate, giving to friends of Bush/Cheney) and redirect that money to education and health care that so many Americans lack.

I figure we should leave now and let them have their civil war and get it over with before they sell their oil to the highest bidder. Is the biggest worry that a US company won't make some profit off of it?

We got Saddam, and Bush got Saddam's gun for his daddy. There are no WMD's there (unless the CIA plants them and convinces us that they were there all along) and so, there is no reason for the US to be there.

Some things are simply obvious.

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» RE: So, why doesn't the USA quit Iraq? Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver
Only Time....
Posted by: Captainmagic on Jun 26, 2006 3:21 AM   
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Only time now....I think the marines should start attacking the "insurgents" in Rumala...kill a few families..let the Shiites rise up against them and then (voila)....instant evacuation....think they can't F@#k that up too...fire mission willie pete..fire for effect...happy fourth of July...and who gives a flying F#@k about Iraqi's.. oh sorry "Hajjis"

Sad and sorry clusterf#@ks are senonomous with your army (FASTEST with the MOSTEST) remember back when your cavalry streamed FANTASTICLY into Iraq, sweeping all before them..It has been written that the green zone can no longer trust the Iraqi soldiers guarding it....well hello...they are the keepers and you are in the zoo..all the commings and goings are always transmitted out to their Majahadeen..like clock work...time is ticking..MYTHS..heres one for you a victorious american army....don't feel so bad it's only an army..it will never defeat a people...stop fighting with peoples, and grow healthy Americans..shit we might even get to like you Mmmmm!

P.S. Do you realise how much of a loss this is to you..your standing is finished..it's that big..to anyone of you who say's they don't give a shit about what the rest of the world thinks I would respectfully say...thats OK with us too, you can have your fortress!

Regards Captain

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fictions
Posted by: rsaxto on Jun 26, 2006 4:51 AM   
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The Bushies have made a career out of writing fictions and repeating them endlessly. We need to end the fictions, impeach the fiction writers and replace them with people who will write the facts and right the wrongs.

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» RE: fictions sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: fictions Posted by: davidt
» RE: fictions quite so Posted by: rsaxto
» RE: fictions quite so sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: fictions sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
Making sense of it…
Posted by: Arvy on Jun 26, 2006 6:23 AM   
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It doesn't make sense…!

Hang on, let's re-define it. How about an honest speech by the President, maybe something like:

"We're approaching a crossroads with regard to the future of our fuel supplies.

The Mid-east is full of oil. Iraq is our first stop. We'd like to invade and take control but we can't do it blatantly because our own people will kick up a fuss about us acting like the Soviets, or the Nazis or something, so we need another pretext.

Let's tell those pathetic sheep, sorry…American people, that we're going to LIBERATE the Iraqi's from an evil dictator, that's always quite popular. (Doesn't matter if WE SUPPORTED THAT DICTATOR while he was committing his atrocities, our people won't know about that, they're more interested in Tom Cruise's baby, or The Osbourne's or the Superbowl.) What we'll then do is privatise Iraq and contract out all the future business to our friends' companies, like Halliburton.

What's that you say? Someone's bound to notice? OK, we'll just call them "un-American", that technique worked in the USSR against Soviet dissidents, and in Nazi Germany against their dissidents.

What about the UN, you say? Well, what are they gonna do, frankly? We've got the biggest muscles in the world! Who's gonna stop us? No, they'll play along in an effort to maintain the illusion that they have some use. Anyway, we've managed to convince most of our pliant-minded populace that the UN is the (what was it again?) the 10 headed beast from Revelations!

This is fun!

What else can we do? Now that the media is owned by some of 'our own' we can get away with anything!

Venezuela next? Maybe Iran, too?

Let's just hope that those dunderheads don't decide to go offline (perish the thought!) or actually come out of their gated communities and organise public discussions - that could be dangerous. Better make sure their too scared to even do that - anyone got the latest crime figures?"

NB: It is not the view of this contributor that the American people are 'dunderheads'. No, that's the secret opinion of your own rulers.

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» RE: Making sense of it…sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
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re fictions sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Jun 26, 2006 6:34 AM   
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As I and others have pointed, Hitler's and Goebbel's mantra "repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it" Either the Bushies are neoNazis or too dumb to think of a new brainwash

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» RE: re fictions sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
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» RE: re fictions sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
But then what?
Posted by: Uccellla on Jun 26, 2006 6:37 AM   
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I am fully in favor of ending the illegal US occupation of Iraq but 'withdrawal' is NOT a foreign policy and it will not begin to repair the damage done. Without any real discussion of the Middle East on the part of policy makers the media will simply cover the food fight that currently passes for governing in this country.

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In a nutshell
Posted by: cold2touch on Jun 26, 2006 6:57 AM   
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Ritter is correct to say that 1/3 Americans opposed the war before it started and of the 2/3 majority that supported it, one half saw the writing on the wall that said Bush+Cheney lost it big time decided to cut+run and jumped ship. The last 1/3 that should be hospitalized is too far out to lunch at the NASCAR races to notice.
And that in a nutshell is America.

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A little misleading...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 26, 2006 8:44 AM   
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...in that there were WMD's in Iraq:

Gassed Kurds would argue strongly that they had been victims, but they can't.

Then, there was the intelligence compelling President Clinton to order the vaccination of every member in uniform against B. anthracis. No, I didn't see the intelligence; yes I rolled up my sleeve, and I believed that the Clinton administration had sufficient intelligence to warrant the implementation of the vast anthrax vaccination program (it was later scaled back). It was either that, or believe that it was a diversionary tactic to drive the focus away from his "other" presidential duties, or that the maker of the vaccine (a former admiral was the head of the Bioport vaccine company) was one of his well-placed "good ol' boys". I accepted that I was being vaccinated out of prudence, rather than posturing or political favoritism.

To broadly assert that WMD were "mythical" (even when one then narrows/limits one's perspective to the past six years) makes for a nice talking point, as nice talking points spun from whole cloth go. But it just isn't accurate. Sorry Mr. Ritter.

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» That's not accurate. Posted by: ABetterFuture
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Turn off the TV!
Posted by: ScottP on Jun 26, 2006 9:11 AM   
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silly me for thinking this way, believing that there was an engaged constituency within America that knows and understands the Constitution of the United States and seeks to live each day as a true citizen empowered by the ideal and values set forth by that document

Not only is it silly to think that such a constituency is anything but a small minority, but it is silly to think that it will ever be anything but a small minority until people turn off their TVs and decide to view the world as a real place of life and death rather than a place to watch things in a detached manner as entertainment. The idea that people watch TV news and think it has some relationship to reality is appalling.

I write letters of protest to every business I encounter that runs TV news in their lobbies, I hope you'll join me.

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Myths are what it's all about
Posted by: Arvy on Jun 26, 2006 9:16 AM   
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Might be preaching to the converted here but…

Have you heard of Leo Strauss?
He was Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld's mentor (maybe some of the other neo-cons too).

His philosophy was that, in order to save America from its own decadence it was necessary to encourage "Noble Lies" to frighten the population into making the "right" choices (in today's case, to invade Iraq).

His students are now carrying out that philosophy, in fact have been carrying out for many years, during the Reagan era too.

Only by informing OURSELVES, by making sure WE know what's going on can we protect ourselves from this kind of predator. That means you should try and prevent your knee jerking when you hear your own national anthem (wherever you are), it means laughing at those that bandy phrases like "Un-American" and so on…

Anyway, you can look Strauss up on the web, here's one link but there are many more:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm

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it may be irrelevant if they steal the election again
Posted by: timg98376 on Jun 26, 2006 10:09 AM   
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The truth of any of this may not matter a whit if the right wing is able to steal the upcoming elections through fraud and manipulation of the voter lists.

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Weapons of Minor Discomfort & the Treasonous Neocons
Posted by: HughEScott on Jun 26, 2006 11:35 AM   
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Scott Ritter is dead on target. There is only one kind of WMD: the atomic bomb. Compared to nukes, chemical, biological and radiological weapons are ladyfinger firecrackers the White House uses to frighten Americans in an endless war on "terror," an idea, not an enemy, that can't be won with military force. The ultimate neoCON game.

But deviousness is just one aspect of the Iraq War. There is also the matter of betrayal. On June 15, 2006, White House press secretary Tony Snow, Fox news commentator turned Bush propagandist (an obvious redundancy), said the deaths of 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq weren't in vain.

Oh really, Mr. Smile? Tell that to 58,000 Americans who died in Southeast Asia four decades ago, only to have Don “I’m right, you’re wrong” Rumsfeld fly to Hanoi and suck up to our new Commie “friends.”

And what about 40 years from now, when Iraq is an Islamic republic run by radical Shiites friendly to Iran with Red China buying all the oil? What will future neoconservatives say to the 2,500 dead GIs then? Oops?

If you think that’s too cynical, consider this. Today, June 26, the Los Angeles Times said George W. would support Iraq’s new 28-point unification plan that included potential amnesty for insurgents who killed our troops.

What the hell is wrong with Dub-ya anyway? Is his booze-riddled memory really that bad or does he just not give a damn about our troops in Iraq? Obviously the latter, based on his performance as commander-in-chief, sending GIs into combat driving unarmored Humvees and wearing “bulletproof” vests that couldn’t AK47 rounds.

Face it, folks. We the people -- Democrats, independents and Republicans, liberals, moderates and conservatives -- have been played for suckers by the rightwing GOP – power hungry, combat-avoiding, draft-dodging jerks like George W., Cheney, Rummy and Karl Rove who split our nation apart for personal profit and political gain.

As punishment, they should spend time in Leavenworth repeating the Pledge of Allegiance with special emphasis on the last part that says, “indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

“Indivisible” doesn’t mean creating wedge issues, such as gay marriage, to drive voters into separate camps to win elections.

“Liberty” doesn’t mean wiretapping U.S. citizens or checking their bank accounts without a court order.

And “justice” doesn’t mean torturing suspected terrorists and imprisoning them for the rest of their lives without a trial.

On second thought, considering that over 20,000 U.S. troops have been killed and wounded in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, Leavenworth is too good for the White House Gang of Four. Instead of prison time, they should face a federal firing squad.

For the truth about the treasonous neocons, visit:
www.FreedomCentraUSA.com

Hugh E. Scott, author, investigative journalist, Vietnam veteran, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, Goldwater conservative and ardent Ronald Reagan fan with a family history of honorable military service going back to 1776.

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Liberal media in hiding
Posted by: electriclady281 on Jun 26, 2006 12:18 PM   
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So where's the liberal media hiding? I've been searching for it for forty years. Onliest t'ing comes close are the blogs!

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The media is a mixed bag
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 26, 2006 1:46 PM   
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Well, the corporate media has been at it again. The three topics Scott Ritter mentions are important, but let's add a few of this weeks travesties:

The use of the Miami 'terror group' to draw attention away from the story about the illegal non-judicial snooping into the bank records of all American citizens (at least the NYT printed the story!). The big 5 cable news corps went all out on the Miami group, who had been kept on ice by Gonzales for the favorable political moment - a classic COINTELPRO operation.

The "Buffet gives his money away to Charity" story - it should have read, "Buffet is concerned about protecting intellectual property rights, makes multi-billion dollar investment in this area." Don't think so? Read these two articles:

Gates Foundation in India

The intellectual property goal of Gates

A more accurate representation might be that Gates and Buffet want to set up their own private version of an IMF-World Bank type system whose central goal is maintaining IPR for pharmaceuticals and software - a nice collaboration, what?

Why does our media have to print such nonsense? Every once in a while a bit of the truth sneaks through, but that's all. Yes, we supported Iraq against Iran and aided them in developing chemical weapons systems - our government did that in the 80's, with Rumsfeld and Cheney in up to their necks. Not widely discussed at the time, you might say. Desperate people backed into a corner tend to fight hard, Zarqawi or no Zarqawi. The current Iraqi government is, from the perspective of the locals, Vichy Iraq.

Some things, well, a lot of things, are just too hot for our media to touch.

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4th myth: Iraq War has nothing to do with OIL
Posted by: yurbud on Jun 26, 2006 3:25 PM   
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neither Democrats nor most of the critics of the war are talking about the oil motive for the war and post-war machinations that Greg Palast, Naomi Klein, Antonia Juhasz, and a few others have thoroughly documented (see links at the end of this post).

At first, I could understand that reticence because I thought there might be a chance the war was about securing supplies as peak oil approached, an at least arguably defensible goal in the strategic interests of all Americans. But as China bought the tar sands in Canada and secured long term contracts in Iran, and we ourselves re-opened relations with Libya for their oil, it seemed like there were easier and cheaper ways to secure a steady supply of oil.

Then Greg Palast, the BBC reporter found through documents and interviews with insiders that the oil industry's concern was that once the sanctions came off, Saddam would pump so much oil it would drive the price down. This seemed to be confirmed in one of the Downing Street Minutes when Bush sent reassurances to Putin that the invasion of Iraq would not increase Iraq's oil output and drive down the price.

In addition to this slightly complex argument, there is a simpler much more irrefutable one: Bush cancelled Saddam's oil contracts with Russia, France and others and gave them to American companies, and forced Iraq to restructure their oil laws to the specifications of our oil companies with a gun in their face.

As Naomi Klein wrote in Harpers, that seems to be a bald-faced violation of the Geneva and Hague Conventions against looting a country you invade.

Since the strategic argument seems to be getting thinner and oil company cronyism at the expense of the American people is getting stronger (essentially we are paying for a war with our good reputation, tax dollars, and soldiers lives so we can pay MORE at the gas pump), why aren't Democrats talking about how oil figured into the decision to invade Iraq?

Either they agree with the Bush oil company agenda or they are profound cowards.


Greg Palast's timeline of Iraq oil meeings (with video interviews with
the players)



Naomi Klein on privatization and its effects in Iraq


Detailed report on restructuring of Iraq's oil industry to benefit our oil companies


Colin Powell's chief of staff on oil motive for Iraq War



The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time author's
website.

If that title sounds inflammatory, it is unfortunately accurate about the economic realities of our foreign policy:

A good brief summary of neoliberalism


How "economic hit men" set it up and enforce it


Economic war crimes in Geneva and Hague Conventions:

The Hague Convention of 1907 (IV) see articles 47, 53, 55


The Geneva Convention of 1949 (IV) we've broken almost every section of
article 147, and Bush has personally broken article 148.

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the real threats are being ignored
Posted by: vespasian01 on Jun 26, 2006 5:00 PM   
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Maybe in a year or so, when our President is satisfied that Iraq has been sufficiently pulverized, he will turn his attention to a few pressing issues.
1) The oceans are rising, most coastal cities will be properly screwed in 50 years.
2) Techniques to deal with common space debris/hazards have yet to be developed. For example, the Great Chicago Fire and related detonations across the Midwest at the time, were apparently caused by some meteoric or comet material which had entered the atmosphere.
3) Our US military is worn out physically, mentally and hardware-wise. Their sense of mission, in my opinion, has been damaged by misusing their skills in an unjust cause.
4) No plans for a proper, modern high-speed transit system in the US are evident.
5) US health and educational standards are falling behind the rest of the world. During my time in the Philippines, I discovered that most adults and kids speak two or three languages at at least a basic conversation level. Knowledge of our own history here at home is abysmal; ask any high school kid when our Civil War was waged. The likely answer will be fuck your mother. That's the last problem, respect for others.

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This looks like God has forsaken us all
Posted by: eastcoker on Jun 26, 2006 6:59 PM   
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This is a very pessimistic article. It is no wonder that members of faith communities are a minority in this community. It takes real strong faith to survive this kind of article. I am going to have to write to the author and find out if he has any faith.

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» RE: pessimistic article Posted by: vespasian01
What about the UN truck bombing?
Posted by: Mike Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on Jun 26, 2006 11:10 PM   
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I couldn't agree more that Iraqi sovereignty and WMD are huge myths and should be old news by now but is getting Zarqawi really such a small deal? Wasn't he linked to the truck bombing of UN's hq in Baghdad shortly after the occupation began and led to the UN withdrawing its aid workers?

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» RE: What about the UN truck bombing? siclofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
We Found WMD – and It Was Ours
Posted by: BlueHorizon on Jun 27, 2006 4:54 AM   
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We Found WMD – and It Was Ours
by Dave DeBatto
Excerpt from Our Generals Don’t Even Know Who We Are.

Althrough this was of no surprise to me, it confirms what many us already know. That if their were WMD in Iraq some of them were what we supplied Saddam in the 1980's.
Anyone interested in seeking more information on this can fellow the link below.

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060625011113179

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3 Things on threat of Zarqawi
Posted by: yurbud on Jun 27, 2006 9:37 AM   
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Zarqawi is a minor player hyped to make the insurgency look bad.

1. The military admits they inflated Zarqawi's role in the insurgency for propaganda purposes in both Iraq and the US.

From the Washington Post:

For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist. Although Zarqawi and other foreign insurgents in Iraq have conducted deadly bombing attacks, they remain "a very small part of the actual numbers," Col. Derek Harvey, who served as a military intelligence officer in Iraq and then was one of the top officers handling Iraq intelligence issues on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told an Army meeting at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., last summer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

2. Israeli and Saudi studies of foreign fighters show most aren't al Qaeda or pirmarily religiously motivated.

From the Boston Globe:

Other fighters, who are coming to Iraq from across the Middle East and North Africa, are older, in their late 20s or 30s, and have families, according to the two investigations. ''The vast majority of them had nothing to do with Al Qaeda before Sept. 11th and have nothing to do with Al Qaeda today," said Reuven Paz, author of the Israeli study. ''I am not sure the American public is really aware of the enormous influence of the war in Iraq, not just on Islamists but the entire Arab world."

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/20...


3. Top GOP strategist Grover Norquist said back in January this was part of their plan to win the November 2006.


...And then for the coup de grace, says Norquist, his baby face breaking into a wide grin: "We'll bring in al-Zarqawi and Osama Bin Ladin."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-bardach/ken-mehlman-th...

More on Zarqawi the PR firm creation...

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sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Jul 1, 2006 9:40 AM   
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Apropo of nothing above:The Fox Propaganda machine has a question on all morning asking if the NYT is responsible for the Wall Street slump. If El Sicko (dubya) gets and STD will that be the Times Fault? From now on we will have a daily fault to lay at the NYT's door

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» why are you a hater? Posted by: coldeye
» RE: why are you a hater? sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
Why Do We Put Up With This Nonsense
Posted by: Newsguy on Jul 1, 2006 10:49 AM   
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Seems to me even conservatives would realize by now that we are pounding billions of dollars down a desert rathole -- billions that should be spent on health care and education and a dozen other problems right here at home. You would think that a bit of selfishness would kick in, inspired by some good old American common sense about solving problems at home for our own people. Not to mention that our American troopers are dying over there for no good reason. I don't get it. This war is insane. And a sizable portion of the American electorate continues to support it.

It's like this country has a major widespread mental health problem, and crazy people are in charge of the government.

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