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Christians-Only Baseball?

By Dave Zirin, TheNation.com. Posted June 7, 2006.


The Colorado Rockies recruit Christian players and claim God is at work on their game. Something's gone rotten on the diamond.

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In Colorado, there stands a holy shrine called Coors Field. On this site, named for the holiest of beers, a team plays that has been chosen by Jesus Christ himself to play .500 baseball in the National League West. And if you don't believe me, just ask the manager, the general manager and the team's owner.

In a remarkable article from USA Today last week, the Colorado Rockies went public with the news that the organization has been explicitly looking for players with "character." And according to the Tribe of Coors, "character" means accepting Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior. "We're nervous, to be honest with you," Rockies general manager Dan O'Dowd said. "It's the first time we ever talked about these issues publicly. The last thing we want to do is offend anyone because of our beliefs." When people are nervous that they will offend you with their beliefs, it's usually because their beliefs are offensive.

As Rockies chairman and CEO Charlie Monfort said, "We had to go to hell and back to know where the Holy Grail is. We went through a tough time and took a lot of arrows."

Club president Keli McGregor chimed in, "Who knows where we go from here? The ability to handle success will be a big part of the story, too. [Note to McGregor: You're in fourth place.] There will be distractions. There will be things that can change people. But we truly do have something going on here. And [God's] using us in a powerful way."

Well, someone is using somebody, but it ain't God. San Francisco Giants first baseman-outfielder Mark Sweeney, who spent 2003 and 2004 with the Rockies, said, "You wonder if some people are going along with it just to keep their jobs. Look, I pray every day. I have faith. It's always been part of my life. But I don't want something forced on me. Do they really have to check to see whether I have a Playboy in my locker?"

Then there is manager Clint Hurdle and GM O'Dowd. Hurdle, who has guided the team to a Philistine 302-376 record since 2002, as well as fourth or fifth place finishes every year, was rewarded with a 2007 contract extension in the off-season. Hurdle also claims he became a Christian three years ago and says, "We're not going to hide it. We're not going to deny it. This is who we are."

O'Dowd, who also received a contract extension, believes that their 27-26 2006 record has resulted from the active intervention of the Almighty. "You look at things that have happened to us this year. You look at some of the moves we made and didn't make. You look at some of the games we're winning. Those aren't just a coincidence. God has definitely had a hand in this." Or maybe the management that prays together gets paid together.

O'Dowd and company bend over backward in the article to say they are "tolerant" of other views on the club, but that's contradicted by statements like this from CEO Monfort: "I don't want to offend anyone, but I think character-wise we're stronger than anyone in baseball. Christians, and what they've endured, are some of the strongest people in baseball. I believe God sends signs, and we're seeing those." Assumedly, Shawn Green (Jew), Ichiro Suzuki (Shinto) or any of the godless players from Cuba don't have the "character" Monfort is looking for.

Also, there are only two African-American players on the Rockies active roster. Is this because Monfort doesn't think black players have character? Does the organization endorse the statement of its stadium's namesake, William Coors, who told a group of black businessmen in 1984 that Africans "lack the intellectual capacity to succeed, and it's taking them down the tubes"? These are admittedly difficult questions. But these are the questions that need to be posed when the wafting odor of discrimination clouds the air.


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As a Coloradan...
Posted by: kkinder on Jun 7, 2006 1:19 AM   
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That's just embarrassing -- and he's right. Denver is not a particularly religious town. (As if that should matter!) Can you imagine the outrage there would be if the Broncos hosted a "Wicca Day" or an "Islam Recruiting Preference"? And some of these people have the nerve to say Christians are descriminated against.

Maybe the Rockies should move to Colorado Springs.

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So it's OK to discriminate in hiring according to religion?
Posted by: LMNOP on Jun 7, 2006 3:19 AM   
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This is reminiscent of the Salvation Army which was recently also noted to have a hiring preference for Christians that I believe was upheld in court. Now the Rockies.

So I guess if its OK to discriminate in favor of Christians when hiring, it is OK to discriminate against them. I employ three people in a small business. One of them reads the Bible at lunch and another has a Jesus fish on her car [picture me beaming ear to ear in anticipation of exercising my new right to discriminate by religious preference]

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» re: "Hippies" Posted by: mysticpal
As good Christians...
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 7, 2006 4:11 AM   
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...the players, managers, team, and advertisers are going to give away all their riches to the poor, right?

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» RE: As good Christians... Posted by: bp_vt268
Who cares?
Posted by: custersbud on Jun 7, 2006 4:23 AM   
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Who cares what they do with this laughing stock of the NL West? When they win their division and the World Series a couple times, maybe someone will take notice (maybe). Till then, they're still the division pinata.

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» RE: Who cares? Posted by: medstudgeek
» RE: Who cares? Posted by: LMNOP
I bet their fans start leaving in the 7th inning...
Posted by: mysticpal on Jun 7, 2006 5:00 AM   
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no matter the score, like they do in San Diego. God is much more of a football fan, of course -- there's much more hyper-religiousity in football and He's been known to affect individual plays!

God must not have got around to smiting the Philadelphia Phillies yet for their gay fan promotions -- they're doing well.

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what next ...?
Posted by: weiwuwei on Jun 7, 2006 5:43 AM   
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i guess the next good christan thing the rockies will do is to ban the consumption of intoxicants in the stadium, which i guess is now a sort of place of worship. so they'll stop selling beer. of course not, that's different.

all this religous postering of superior character(simply by labeling oneself a christian) is funny to those who are not hypnotized by it. but it's scary in a way, too. as the nazis were slowly coming to power in the early 30's, one aspect of it was that religion(and they were "good christians") started creeping in and co-opting all areas of secular life and the prevailing attitude became like what the GM says about christians having more character, etc(ie: morally superior). Us and them, Us against them. Think this is alarmist, paranoia, fear mongering? I sometimes think so myself, but then I'm again reminded that throughout history totalitarian govts always come in slowly, in little steps, and then it's here. couldn't happen here? of course not...we're too smart, too enlightened for that, we have "democracy" and so on. i know this has drifted off the subject, but this christian-ization of sports, etc is a sympton of the creeping blindness of nationalism and moral superiority which allows the blinded to justify whatever they want to do. It happens gradually and i see more of it all the time. how long do we stay in denial untill we admit what's slowly happening?i'm not naive enough to think it couldn't happen here. so i've got to find a way to laugh at it.

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» RE: what next ...? Posted by: BeerDrinker
So the Rockies sign who they want to sign.
Posted by: gpm on Jun 7, 2006 6:24 AM   
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If they refuse to sign a player because he doesn't have the right beliefs, their loss. There is no lack of teams for the non-evangelical to play for.

This issue affects my life precisely as much as gay marriage does: Not at all.

Incidentally, as I read the Rockies' starting lineup last night, I realized I didn't recognize one name other than Helton. Says something about the sustainability of their approach, doesn't it?

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Follow God and fail?
Posted by: lamar on Jun 7, 2006 6:43 AM   
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So what's wrong with a christian baseball team? Just because baseball is the epitome of greed and is a fundamental foundation for sports books, that doesn't mean that good christians can't form a god-fearing, hypocritical team bond. Of course, Colorado is the worst team in its division. Maybe that's the message? Fall for Jesus and fail?

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This is COORS, after all...
Posted by: chasaturn on Jun 7, 2006 6:44 AM   
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Congenital idiots, bigots, arms dealers, hate-mongerers and cynical hypocrites, this bunch. Coors has a fine history of bigotry and racism, sexism and callousness, and who better than one of the Monforts to execute their megalomaniacal wet dreams. It's like the owners in North Dallas Forty - not true believers but a desire to control ALL aspects of the lives of their "property". "Prayer Breakfasts" at the white House? The same cynical exploitation of others' beliefs.

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Minor correction
Posted by: BeerDrinker on Jun 7, 2006 7:01 AM   
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Zirin writes in his article that Babe Ruth wasn't much for religion- however it should be pointed out that Ruth was raised mainly in a Catholic boys home in Baltimore and, despite his boozing, philandering ways he at least paid lip service to his Catholic faith. But as for the rest of the article, it's not all that surprising. Sports and fundamentalist religion have been closely aligned since Billy Sunday played for the Chcago White Stockings. This new development by the Rockies will mean mainly for its fans that putting together a winning team will be even harder than it already is -they still haven't found enough pitchers who can work effectively at that altitude. Ultimately, the Rockies will continue to lose and their fan base will dwindle no matter how many "Free Bible with purchase of hot dog" days they have.

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This heathen was praying...
Posted by: chaoslegs on Jun 7, 2006 7:09 AM   
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...that the jerks in the Minnesota State Legislature wouldn't use taxpayer dollars to largely fund a new stadium for the Twins. Little did I know that MLB had their ace pitching for them, if I had I wouldn't have tried that useless exercise of praying :)

(much tongue in cheek)

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Your choice
Posted by: gingerale on Jun 7, 2006 7:18 AM   
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I suppose I don't get the big deal. It's just marketing. There are target marketing campaigns going on in every sport in America, including NASCAR who want to target WOMEN. Women are a market, Christians are a market--it's just that when you introduce the fact that this particular market is religious that people get up in arms. Hey, my boss likes to recruit from his alma mater--I'd like to recruit from mine--does that make it sordid? Baseball is a business. It's not the government. It's still mom and pop, hot dogs and apple pie. I'm sure Jews, atheists, and a ton of other religious backgrounds attend the games. Owners can do whatever they want! The targeting of markets is done with EVERY BASEBALL TEAM IN AMERICA, from player to fan. You don't think that ever since Matsui hit the scene, more teams are looking to Japan for players now? What if it were another country...that you don't like. If it works, and attracts fans and media, maybe they have hit on something.

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» RE: Your choice Posted by: LMNOP
Silly Christians...
Posted by: Scientz on Jun 7, 2006 7:36 AM   
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Quite frankly, I am offended by the idea that some people actually believe that God, the almighty master of the universe, who is infinite and exists outside of time--who is the beginning and the end--cares about a baseball game.

It's just as offensive to me as believing that God wants devout Muslims to blow themselves up on Israeli public transit, or that God decided to become a first century Jew.

I have accepted God into my life, and God is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.

To me, that is truly a God worth having faith in.

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Future World Series....
Posted by: antirightwing on Jun 7, 2006 7:40 AM   
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Marketing to the Christian Fundamentalists by Corporate Ayatollahs, gee why not, nothing is sacred to hypocrites. My guess is one day the World Series may come down to Sanctimonious Christians vs. Secularists. My cosmic bet is on the Secularists.

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It's about the money
Posted by: Sunfell on Jun 7, 2006 7:41 AM   
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Scratch the surface of any religious effort, and you will find moneygrubbers running it. They really do not care about faith, they care about finance. And the evangelical christian community is pretty flush with lots of Money To Spend for Jesus. So, slapping a cross and a fish on the promos and mouthing Scripture is going to get them to flood in and spend their money- for a while at least. If that dries up, they'll drop it. Simple as that.

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» RE: It's about the money Posted by: farmer's daughter
How 'Bout a "God Is a Republican" Night?
Posted by: pelle_in_goal on Jun 7, 2006 7:47 AM   
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Other than God (obviously), The Coors family are the biggest Republicans in Colorado.

Williams Coors accepted Jesus Christ "as his personal Lord and Saviour" when he first pumped his brewery millions into supporting the Powell Memorandum -- and all its conniving tenets. The Powell Memorandum was the clarion call for Big Business to restore the unmitigated greed of corporations and create a Right Wing stranglehold on the country's electorate. Meanwhile, GOP billionaires would generously endow Powellism since it also called for neutralizing and smearing the American Left.

And once they figured out they could save some of their own money by tapping the Christian Right for theirs and in the process wrap Powellism up with "The Lord's Robe": mission accomplished.

Virtually all sports team owners are Republicans. Bill DeWitt, for instance, chaired Bush's Presidential campaign in Ohio back in 2000. When ho "asked" George Bush to throw out the first ball in St. Louis back in 2004, he had the stadium PA hyped when Bush came out on the field.

So the best sports bet this year is that any so-called "Christian Values" Night is nothing more than a campaign stunt by the GOP in an election year -- when the GOP's ethical performance is at all-time low.

Of course, the effort will succeed. Nobody in the MSM is going to come out against God, for Pete's sake.

Speaking of Pete, Peter Coors still has ambitions of high political office. I'm sure he thinks his family deserves to be rewarded for all its public service for the GOP.

Therefore, The Rockies being baseballs most "Christian" team is no "boating accident." It is purely politically motivated.

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this is nuts.
Posted by: peartree on Jun 7, 2006 8:12 AM   
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this morning, before reading about this, i serendipitously posted about minor league baseball teams having Faith Nights. http://magcrit.blogspot.com /2006/06/ive-got-terrific-idea.html

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This should be easy.
Posted by: bettsoff on Jun 7, 2006 8:15 AM   
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Everyone knows it's those damn homos who are destroying the character of the nation. All the Rockies have to do is refuse to hire gay ballplayers...if they can find any to turn down.

Piazza? Piazza? Anyone?

*crickets chirp*

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» RE: This should be easy. Posted by: mysticpal
I had no idea-
Posted by: dismayed on Jun 7, 2006 9:52 AM   
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And obviously the Coors outfit is on a thin line with discrimination issues and the reporting highlights the parallel nation approach that many in the Christian (and other) communities are embracing. One note- the article states that the Rockies only have 2 African American players on their roster. There are very few African American players in major league baseball left and fewer coming up. The Houston Astros had no African American players on their roster last year and the issue is not race. Decaying educational and sports infrastructure in poor communities, the pre eminence of basketball with African American kids and it’s self organizing qualities (all you need is a hoop and a ball, no coaches referees or lawnmowers required), and the dedication of the Latin American countries and their players to the sport have all contributed to the shift in MLB player demographics, so the racist implication in the article might be inaccurate.

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RogerEd
Posted by: rogeralexander on Jun 7, 2006 9:54 AM   
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You've asked for it, mate. Since your opposition to the system is non-existent, your critique is from a consumer point-of-view (giving vent to your rage on behalf of the fans - gimmeabreak). Not, surprisingly, you always end up voting for the Democrats.
Unless every pissed-off American supports/promotes a Third Alternative, there's no chance of living a decent life in a secular America.
Or else, say hallelujha for every point scored by the Rockies!

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I thought pride was a sin
Posted by: popsicle67 on Jun 7, 2006 9:58 AM   
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In my limited exposure to religion That is one thing I took to heart. Advertising that they believe they're doing well because
god is happy with the way they hire his believers is the very essence of sinful pride. It would be satisfying to see who they
blame if they end up in the cellar

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Rocky Times for Colorado's baseball team
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Jun 7, 2006 10:51 AM   
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I read that article in USA Today and I was puzzled by it. I guess God is pleased to have the Colorado Rockies-major league baseball's equivalent to a sacrificial lamb-along with the K.C. Royals, an equal opportunity team to pad your win column- finish in MLB's lower dephts each season.
Isn't it funny that year after year the Rockies are always at the bottom of the NL West in a pathetic division? I think God wants off that team. Maybe He'll demand a trade.
Religion and sports are a queer mix. Players pray before and after games. To survive the rigors of playing every day and to avoid a "career"-threatening injury. God could care less about a team winning. In fact, He might be out having a beer or lecturing His saints or something. We don't know.
Here's an idea to help Colorado's beleaguered baseball bums:
Change your name to the Gods. You know it'll take "divine" intervention for them to make it to the post-season. God help you.
Or they can recruit Jesus to manage them. He'll grow weary of another last-place finish. Let's see if Rockies brass has the guts to fire him. The devil's in the details.

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"Christians"...
Posted by: Wish on Jun 7, 2006 11:15 AM   
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Mind the quotes.
Why is it that the US is filled with lunatics, acting out the most ludicrous deeds in the name of this or that god?
Plus, you really think that god of yours really gives a shit about basketball?? Oh wait, you just found a new addition to your fundamentilst bible, no doubt.

If all those people calling themselves "christian" would perform true acts according to the christ (you know, love thy neighbour, peace (Jesus was the ulitmate pacifist), honesty, and that sort of things are mostly left out of the picture), you'd have Eden right there in your own backyard.

"christians"...the only thing that's holy for you, is the buck. The Holy Buck. Just remember what Jesus did with the moneyexchangers in the temple....

No, I am not a christian. I prefer not to be such a hypocrite.

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Faith Days?!
Posted by: picaresque on Jun 7, 2006 11:40 AM   
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What do you get for 'Faith Days' at the ballpark? Free bread & wine to the first 10,000 attendees? Your favorite staggeringly wealthy, steroidal monstrosity of a ballplayer will have the opportunity to teach you about the bounty of Jesus while knocking zingers out of the park! Praise be! I've been shilled!

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PLAYING FOR THE OTHER TEAM
Posted by: Roverton on Jun 7, 2006 11:44 AM   
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Christ wan't the "Excluder".

Might wanna double check who actually manages the mamagers of your little athletic group there.

Is it warm in here or is it you?

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?
Posted by: Roverton on Jun 7, 2006 11:58 AM   
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Why do so many "Christians" act so selfishly?

Helping "Your own" isn't Christian. That's anyone anywhere. Helping ALL is Christian.

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THE 11TH COMMANDMENT?
Posted by: RhodesVan3000 on Jun 7, 2006 1:25 PM   
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Swell! Just what baseball needs are a bunch more drunken fat white Christian Talibans hanging out together.

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IS THERE ANY GOVT MONEY GOING TO THE STADIUM?
Posted by: RhodesVan3000 on Jun 7, 2006 1:28 PM   
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Would it be illegal for the government at any level to give tax dollars to the team? Tax breaks for the stadium or?

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The big crappy presumption here ....
Posted by: kmeyer on Jun 7, 2006 1:33 PM   
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...is one the right never tires of implying, usually being vague or leaving for an obverse implication. They say they want players of "character," right? That's fine, but they seem to think that the only way to be a person of "character" is to be a Christian. We get this meme over and over again. It has deluged our politics. You can't get elected on the federal level without being religious, preferably Christian but if not then Jewish.

Jon Stewart had a great line on this message, paraprased "George Bush quit drinking when he found Jesus. That's fine. I quit because I got tired of the taste of my own vomit. That's fine also, but not according to him."

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Aw shucks!
Posted by: talkville on Jun 7, 2006 1:58 PM   
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Give this God a break now, he seems to need entertainment and escape now and then... it must get pretty boring advising Bush and Co. all the time.

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Mr. Bip
Posted by: tap17x on Jun 7, 2006 2:00 PM   
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Actually, the mediocre performance of God's own baseball team is not surprising given that God has proven many times that He is the #1 mediocrity in the whole universe. He can't do anything right: witness the failed "sinlessness" of Adam and Eve, the failed attempt to cleanse sin with the Flood, the failed mission of Jesus Christ, and the utterly failed mission of His personal president, G. Worthless Bush.

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Strange Mix, Religion and Baseball
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jun 7, 2006 2:25 PM   
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Politics and Religion is creeping into every avenue of life. How come baseball, just can't be baseball? Must everything be polarized with Religion and Politics. Leave baseball alone, it's a reprieve from politics and religion. While we're on the subject, leave alone books like 'America Deceived' by E.A. Blayre III and stop forcing Amazon to pull it off the shelves. Leave alone Ernst Zundel and David Irving for speaking their minds (whatever they say). Leave alone the protestors (who you push into cages). And dammit leave baseball alone.
Final link (before politics invades Google Books):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/
book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

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Money is the name for god...
Posted by: apost8 on Jun 7, 2006 2:50 PM   
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..... In the hearts and minds of all sports' team owners. They've learned that evangelicals are a very loyal audience. If you put the words "Jesus", "faith", or "personal savior" together in any order, they'll throw money at you until it'll crush you under its weight, no matter how lousy the product is. What I wonder is, do the evangelicals see how they're being used, and do they even care?

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Christian-only
Posted by: kkinder on Jun 7, 2006 4:42 PM   
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I think the thing is you can't say you "only" hire Christians -- you just notice that all the people "with character" you hire "happen" to be Christian. And white. And men.

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Just another marketing ploy, fellas.
Posted by: Chuck Norris on Jun 7, 2006 7:31 PM   
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This is yet another marketing ploy to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Think about it: Someone releases a new movie in theaters, and guess what? Look through the toy aisle and you'll likely find more than ten toys related to the new movie. They want to sell the movie in theaters AND the toy aisle (with lame toys made in China), and the register (suckers shaped like a movie character, etc;). Same idea. They can't sell enough Christianity on the 700 Club, or in church, or in Washington D.C., so they are now attempting to create as many Christian-affiliated business ventures as possible.

Ah, the joys of capitalism.

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InVida Blu
Posted by: sg on Jun 7, 2006 7:47 PM   
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No, Piazza is still catching...for the Padres.

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would a "Christian" play on Coors field..
Posted by: staicnoise on Jun 8, 2006 8:46 AM   
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Or attend games played there for that matter? A Red Cross worker told me about how one time he was working in a disaster area how he took drinking water to a faith based relief group who requested it. The group rejected it because the label showed it was provided by a beer brewery. Last year when a Kansas city was preparing to vote on Sunday Liquor sales, on person interviewed commented; he thought it would pass because the Catholics would vote for it and the Christians wouldn't. There are people of all faiths who do good works, but they don't expect a pat on the back for it. This new breed of "look at me Christian" is mostly interested in controlling others, one their way to maximum profits. I for one am growing tired of the baloney they sell.

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With apologies to Yogi
Posted by: Sandy2000 on Jun 8, 2006 10:07 AM   
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It's 1936 all over again.

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Parallel
Posted by: Steven Wanzell on Jun 8, 2006 5:36 PM   
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I've always seen a parallel between religious, patriotic, and "team" support. It is fanaticism, and it weaves the three together, into a cloth of blind ambition. As a result, few free-thinkers are patriots, sports fans, or "believers".

Steven Wanzell
artist/activist/ex-American
www.wanzellarts.com.ar

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eyespy
Posted by: eyespy on Jun 8, 2006 6:54 PM   
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Wow. I'm new in town and had no idea about the Rockies' religious proclivities. To think I might have actually paid to get into church!

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True Christians
Posted by: vkobaya on Jun 9, 2006 5:45 AM   
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Christ said, give all you own to the poor, and come follow me. I wonder if they are even Christian enough to refuse to sell tickets to non-Christians, or are they greedy enough to take anyone's money regardless of their beliefs. My guess is if you wore a red costume complete with horns, tail and cloven hoffs, they would not refuse to take your money for tickets nor refuse to allow you to enter their stadium.

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This is why nobody can stand us liberals....
Posted by: rbohan on Jun 10, 2006 6:02 AM   
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What's Alternet trying to do? Corner the market on snide, arrogant, snotty rants against people of faith? If the Rockies were (let's say) making it known they were going to hire more environmentalists and players with a socialist bent and having Workers of the World night at the park where unions were to hand out literature (I know...a pretty far fetched scenario at Coors Field), we'd be cooing and getting all warm and fuzzy about that. But people of faith? Gosh...then we make all sorts of snide comments about their being in fourth place.

If the team a policy, overt or covert, of not hiring African-American players, that's a problem (mostly for the team, of course). If the team is using Christianity or any other faith simply as a marketing tool (a distinct possibility of course), that makes me angry. And if the team is using adherence to Christianity as some sort of internal litmus test for whose "in" and whose "out", I'd remind them in the strongest terms I could muster that this is EXACTLY what Christ stood against. While the author does touch on some of these issues, he seems mostly to be animated simply by the fact that some people of faith associated with the team are saying that they are, in fact, people of faith and that it informs how they carry out their lives on all fronts.

There is a lot of bad shit that faux "Christians" like Gary Dobson, Pat Robertson, and a number of bishops from my own Catholic Church are spreading around. And gosh knows that people like GWB are perversions of Christianity, claiming that God speaks to them in order to start terrible and unneeded wars. But to simply derogate anyone, as the author does, because they express faith, is snotty, arrogant, and elitist.

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