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Big Pharma's Deadly Experiments
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The report surfaces as more and more clinical research relocates to the Global South in order to escape burdensome regulation schemes in the United States and Western Europe. AlterNet has obtained an early look at a book to be published later this year -- The Body Hunters: How the Drug Industry Tests Its Products On the World's Poorest Patients (New Press), by investigative journalist Sonia Shah -- that raises the curtain on a trend that's harming patients and health care systems while eroding the developing world's trust in conventional medicine.
Researchers needing patients and freer working conditions have for years found a honey pot in the world's slums and shantytowns. The fact that poor, desperate patients are willing to try anything, means companies like GlaxoSmithKline, Merck and Wyeth currently conduct 30 percent to 50 percent of their experiments outside Western Europe and the United States, and plan to boost foreign trials by 67 percent this year, according to USA Today. Their urgency is understandable; Shah's book notes that to get a single drug to market, drug companies are forced "to convince more than 4,000 patients to undergo 141 medical procedures each in more than 65 separate trials."
Clinical investigators and the companies backing them argue that overseas trials get drugs to a lucky few and lead to faster cures for us all. But Shah, the author of Crude: The Story of Oil, deftly takes that Big Pharma myth to task, tracing how drug trial exports ruin third-world health care systems, steer attention away from public health needs like clean water and sanitation, and ignore the health safety of subjects.
From the history of placebo controls to a modern map of how loophole-prone laws in the 1980s paved Big Pharma's easy way, Shah shows that "the main business of clinical research is not enhancing or saving lives but acquiring stuff: data" -- making it an industry instead of a social service, as it would have the world believe. As an industry, she argues, they should be denied the regulatory winks and nods reserved for a public health entity.
Hearn: What struck you as the worst case of excess or neglect you found while researching this book?
Shah: It was probably the trial I covered in Zambia [involving a drug to combat cryptosporidium, a diarrhea-causing infection]. It was stark, children dying, little kids dying. But from what I can tell if these kids had received antiretroviral therapy they could have survived. But they were put into a trial for a drug that never benefited them or their families or siblings because the drug was so completely targeted for other populations, almost a luxury drug for fighting an infection that in Western children means a day of diarrhea. It is so mild in kids who are healthy that lots of people don't even notice it.
So for such a minor condition they tested the drug on people who were so, so sick. And in the end, 12 kids died.
Kelly Hearn: You write that by the late 1990s, pharmaceutical companies had grown frustrated with the pace of academic hospitals and research centers, and changed the contracting focus to "contract research organizations," private companies that promise to get drug trials done quickly. What role do these companies play in the scheme of drug trials, and to what degree are they responsible for the growth in overseas trials?
Sonia Shah: There are two things, a push and a pull, that force trials overseas. The push is a patient recruitment bottleneck. Most trials don't meet recruitment deadlines, whether it's because Americans aren't interested or their profiles are wrong. Often the right kind of patients don't exist in enough quantity in the U.S., or if they do they drop out of trials.
The big pull is the contract research organizations (CROs). If anyone is a body hunter, it's the CRO industry, an industry that has largely escaped public notice, perhaps because of the weird, vague sounding moniker, CRO. Public Citizen called them, more accurately, "human experiment corporations." They are, though, just a business, and are not any more venal than other actors involved.
Hearn: Like you, many journalists and health experts I have interviewed almost invariably say the FDA should require new drugs to outperform existing ones rather than simply work better than a placebo. Given your sense of the FDA's ruling culture, the growing public frustration with drug companies, Washington's current political climate, and so on, is there real hope of this happening in the next few years?
Shah: I think not. But the history of regulation goes in fits and starts based on scandals, horrible mistakes like thalidomide, and then regulations change rapidly. And we can't predict disasters, something that will come into the limelight and expose a controversy, something that can change headlines. The FDA is vulnerable to headlines, to politics.
Hearn: What are the most dangerous structural impacts overseas trials can have on developing countries' health systems?
Shah: The main thing is misallocation of resources. You're talking about such a scarcity in terms of clinics, nurses, doctors, facilities, medicine, tools and time. You have places where all this is in short supply and in that setting they have this fruit dangled in front of them -- we'll pay you so many hundreds per patient, we'll give you new technology, new MRI machines, etc.
But what this means is that doctors and nurses there are performing experiments for treatments for things like diabetes, arthritis, erectile dysfunction. These things are important in the West but these people have malaria, cholera, and other infections. In that sense, the industry sponsored trials are distorting health care.
Part of a larger trend, as is happening in places like India that have and want more foreign trials, is the rise of privatized, two-tiered health care where high-tech facilities and highly specialized physicians are available for the wealthy, but the poor just have basic service that they have to pay for. In India and in South Africa, they are building hospitals not for people who live there but for foreigners. Doing trial business is part of the trend toward creating two-tiered systems in these countries, a private one for the rich and nothing for the poor.
Hearn: You talk about the phrase "due to ethical concerns" appearing frequently in biomedical conversations. You note that it is almost "exclusively reserved for biomedical transgressions." Can you explain?
Shah: It's just that you never hear it outside these circles it seems. If you're talking about something unethical, you don't say, "It's not possible due to ethical concerns." You don't say, "It's not possible to gas people due to ethical concerns." You say, "Such and such happened, and it was wrong, immoral and illegal."
Hearn: Rep. Tom Lantos of California said after the Washington Post's coverage of the Nigerian report that he will offer a bill making U.S. researchers give federal regulators details of tests planned in developing countries. What do you think of that idea, and what are some of the necessary regulatory changes for reining in the transgressions you address in the book?
Shah: I think it's a baby step in right direction. But most important, there needs to be restraints and breaks in the exportation of drug trials. It's not possible to put in enough oversight to protect these subjects, at the present time. Restraint is necessary. I was giving a talk at the FDA, and the regulators wanted to know what they can do to make it better. What about a new rule that says there should be an ethics committee review in this country and the country taking the trial? That's already true for NIH trials.
That would be good, but we know from NIH trials that lots of things fall through cracks, and that just requiring the ethics review is not sufficient. Another thing you could do is require verification of informed consent and really make sure people understand what's happening, that they fill out forms or take quizzes to show they understand.
Hearn: You put hope into the rise of the nonprofit drug companies. What are some of the key ways they can help?
Shah: I don't think it's wrong to do trials in developing countries. It's about what kind of drugs that are being developed. Are the drugs a public health priority? Those who take on the burden of experimentation should enjoy the fruits of research rather than watching the benefits go only to a tiny percentage of white, overweight bald men.
Hearn: Having now written about two of the world's most powerful interests, Big Oil and Big Pharma, what common themes emerge?
Shah: What's interesting to me is they produce commodities that are public goods. Society needs energy and medicine, but we let private companies do it for us. And their goals are to enrich shareholders. We need these things, but we decide the responsibility for providing it should go to for-profit entities. This develops all kinds of distortions.
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Posted by: cry0fan on Jun 9, 2006 3:40 AM
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So what a big part of American medicine (and indeed much of western medicine) is, is built around boosting corporate pharma profits by developing drugs that only provide some incremental improvement in treatment, as opposed to groundbreaking fundamental research. These low lying fruit provide better returns for investment, and more profits. They are easier to pick off. Big Pharma would rather create ever more small (sometimes miniscule) improvements, rather than spend big money to go after the fruit at the top, like curing heart disease, cancer, which require more expensive, long term fundamental research.
I would say that this sort of 3rd world pharma experimentation is OK, but only if it includes fundamental research. It is a crime to hurt these people just for corporate profits when the real benefits are so small, and really is just to improve profits.
Go after the fruit at the top and I would say it is OK.
But then again, I am an American and what goes on in other countries is really none of my business, and none of yours, either, if you are an American.
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Posted by: wawa on Jun 9, 2006 3:56 AM
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...Health care is NOT a commodity. The facts on the ground are that the richest country in the world has 46 million uninsured and many millions more that are underinsured. This is gross injustice where the rich get tax cuts and the poor go without basic health care in the land we claim is of the free and the proud.
Uninsured and insured alike all watch TV and are bombarded with drug ads enticing them with promises of energy, sexual potency or just the ability to go fishing without the ache of baby boomer osteoarthritis....
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 9, 2006 7:26 AM
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Take for example the Vioxx-Celebrexx-etc. painkiller story. These drugs all go under the classification of COX-2 inhibitors; that's an enzyme called cyclooxygenase that plays a role in pain responses. Once it was noted that these drug worked, big pharma began looking for new versions that they could patent. All across the country, research programs sprung up in public universities that were funded/controlled by big pharma 'sponsors' focused on finding new Cox-2 inhibitors. See the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine for the gory details on the resulting corruption.
It's cheaper to get the public university to do private research for a drug company with taxpayer funds then it is for the company to set up their own research program - again, the pharma company has an ironclad intellectual property agreement with the university which allows the company to 'own' the research - lovely.
Even though FDA scientists raised strong concerns about the Cox-2 drugs, the FDA ruling board (with a good percentage of pharma employees) ruled in favor of releasing the drugs. Deaths resulted, the drugs were withdrawn, and now the companies are being sued - but shouldn't the FDA also be sued, in that case? Media Matters coverage of FDA corruption.
Note that the takeover of federal regulatory agencies is a common Bush team theme with Big Pharma and Big Oil, from the Federal Trade Commission to the Federal Drug Agency to the Securities and Exchange Commission...Bush role in Big Pharma at Media Matters.
If the drug is 50 years old and in the public domain, Big Pharma isn't interested in promoting it because anyone can come along and make a cheap generic version of the drug - no matter how effective the drug is. A heavy part of pharmaceutical marketing is therefore aimed at promoting the 'best NEW drugs'.
Doctors tend to be aware of this more then patients are, but pharma companies target both ends - the patient and the doctor - using very comprehensive marketing. That's why sales and marketing tend to be about 2/3 of a pharma company budget, while research is only 1/3.
Even in the US, the pharma trials are dirty and have resulted in all kinds of scandal. The SFBC drug test center in Florida was recently shut down (Bloomberg Report). How much worse must things be outside the US, in some corrupt dictator-run country? Oh wait - were do we live?
What can you do? Go with the cheaper traditional drugs if at all possible - and take your kids off the pharmaceutical speed ADD drugs.
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Posted by: lonpine on Jun 9, 2006 8:11 AM
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In the pharm industry there's always a huge huge drive to shrink timelines. It took us 6 weeks to do X? This time let's do it in 4. You tell project managers at these companies that it's for the sake of patients who need this drug, and it's easy to forget about important ethical concerns. In some companies, it's amazing how strong a laserbeam like focus there is in meeting aggressive timelines. 99% of these people are good people- they get up in the morning and want to make a difference in the world; they have children they're want to provide for; they want to do good work.
Successful corporations that move fast build systems to make it easy to move fast, have ways of framing their problems in terms of moving fast and removing obstacles to that momentum. Companies are rarely looking for ways to second guess what they're doing. Rather they're looking for ways to make decisions faster, to speed up processes, to get data faster.
They only build in checks b/c it's required by the law, or b/c of past, bad experiences, which can be easily forgotten.
That's why strong regulation is essential. A perfect example where regulation protects an industry rather than impedes it.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 9, 2006 9:30 AM
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Cryp is a parasite. How could antiretrovirals have benefitted these kids? Did the kids suffering from cryptosporidiosis have late-stage AIDS? If so, how would they have survived? What about the many other drugs that have been developed to manage HIV symptoms? Are they all equally unethical, villainously developed, in a horrific way, using evil money, heartlessly? You might consider directing that question to someone on HART.
Meh. I'm just glad some folks have the courage not to let a few logic bombs get in the way of a beautiful ideology, one free from the constraints of nasty chemicals and medicine.
If you get a signed copy of the book, I urge you to be careful and wear gloves. We've gone from developing 6-10 new types of antibiotics per year to around 0...or maybe 2 during a good year. (And those 2 are almost always chemical variants of existing drugs). That's ok, though. The demand for "risk-free" drugs for those of us suffering from the ravages of smoking, big macs, and poor choices with what we do with our naughty bits outweighs the need to develop new medicines. It makes absolute sense, after all, that a small number of SAREs should terminate development on drugs that might benefit thousands of people.
Best example is the rotavirus vaccine RotaShield. For comparison, the polio vaccine would have never made it to market using these guidelines.
Oh, with the antibiotics--I'm dead serious. We're losing, and we're losing faster every year. Undoubtedly, that will please the "too many people on the planet" crowd...as long as it isn't their kid (do as they say, not as they do) who dies from a staphylococcus infection that could have been treated by a $4.00 dose of penicillin forty years ago.
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Posted by: pianojo on Jun 9, 2006 12:07 PM
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What, after all, is the difference?
Personally, I LOATHE Big Pharma and my fondest wish is that one day they will go to hell where they belong.
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Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 9, 2006 12:16 PM
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CLICK HERE
The drugs of BIG PHARMA are designed to stop symptoms but to preserve the underlying condition so the person will be dependent on the drug until they die. Not to mention, the side effects from the drugs will produce more illnesses requiring more symptom-masking drugs, on and on.
It's all a big racket. National Healthcare? Please, spare me. I'll stick to my vitamins and my raw milk, spring butter, cod liver oil, and avoiding the food industry's processed food.
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Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 9, 2006 12:22 PM
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Asian people have eaten soy but ONLY WHEN FERMENTED. A small amount of true soy sauce or miso, produced by fermentation, is fine. But fermenation is the ONLY WAY TO DESTROY THE TOXINS/ANTINUTRIENTS within soy. You can pound it, crush it, boil it, spin it, freeze it, and nothing will get rid of those antinutrients.
Soy should NEVER be fed to infants. Soy will shut down the thyroid faster than anything. MSG is made from soy.
Soy is pure poison. Check out the Weston A Price Foundation on-line for more information on soy.
I have eliminated all soy from my diet, along with all MSG. Finally I am no longer a slave to my appetite.
Where does AlterNet get its information from? Time Magazine? This is the INTERNET. People here are looking for TRUTH, not more propaganda.
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Posted by: pianojo on Jun 9, 2006 12:24 PM
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I haven't used drugs in decades, unless absolutely pushed to the wall and there is no other choice. Believe me when I tell you there is ALWAYS a choice. In the few instances over the last 30 years that I have had to use a drug, it was for a very very short period of time, until I could find an alternative.
Let me give you an example. A few years ago I was diagnosed with asthma. I literally could NOT breathe. I went to a doctor who gave me an inhaler. Then it was off to the nutritionist who gave me supplements and - the thing that literally saved my life - a little bottle of peppermint oil. I inhale that very very deeply and it opens up the air passages. In addition I started using xylitol nose spray.
Finally, I found a book, FREEDOM FROM ASTHMA, written by Alexander Stalmatiski, a disciple of Konstantin Buteyko (who is very well known in Russia I have told) who developed a breathing system to overcome asthma. It works. I use it every day.
So, no more having to use the inhaler which contains steroids.
Remember: You are not sick because of a drug deficiency. You are sick because you have an imbalance in your body and if you bring your body back into balance, you won't be sick. This may sound completely off the wall but having done this for 30 years - half of my life - I can tell you it works!
This is not to say that sometimes more isn't required. Sometimes, it is. But for me, drugs and surgery are way down on the list. I ALWAYS use alternative FIRST. Alternatives are non-invasive and generally don't have side effects. They also don't usually kill people. Drugs and surgery canNOT make such a claim.
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Posted by: tomvincze on Jun 9, 2006 1:34 PM
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All AIDS activist groups are financed by Big Pharma and they are zealots of the highest order. It seems that the more toxic the "therapy", the more mindless and adamant are the histrionics to get the drugs out there to people, many of whom aren't even sick and in the case of Africa, most have never even been tested for HIV!
If you want to read a good book on the corruption that surrounds the whole AIDS fiasco read John Crewdson's Science Fictions and Celia Farber's Serious Adverse Events for starters.
The history of AIDS is astonishing in how science has been turned on its head in order to "accomodate" the many inconsistencies of this most political and suspect dogma.
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Posted by: aussidawg on Jun 9, 2006 4:29 PM
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The total number of deaths from prescription drugs since 9/11 is 16,400% higher than the deaths from terrorists.
Prescription drugs kill more people than terrorists, murders, car accidents, plane accidents, swimming pool accidents, and infant deaths combined.
If there were a wall in Washington D.C. listing all of the deaths to Americans caused by FDA approved drugs, similar to the Viet Nam Memorial Wall, the wall would go for miles and you wouldn't be able to read every name onn the wall uness you had several years to do so.
The article further states that many prescription drugs are marked up 55,000 percent over the cost of raw materials. This is an absolute outrage, and many members of our government (George Bush Sr., Donald Rumsfeld and more) have ties to the pharmacutical industry.
So...what's next? The medicare Rx pan was a welfare check to the pharmacutical industry, any ideas about the up and comming bird fu? Stay tuned folks 'cause we ain't seen nutin yet!!!
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Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 10, 2006 3:52 AM
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If these international gangsters can make money while they kill us off, all the better. Give us something that makes us feel better because the symptoms are masked and the brain is deceived. At the same time, the drug will attack the organs and bring on more disease, requiring more drugs to mask those symptoms.
If you've not seen the movie on-line, you gotta. This movie drives the establishment medical industry people nuts. They hate it. I posted it above.
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Posted by: dkm on Jun 13, 2006 9:16 AM
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Having said that, I have no doubt that the poor people in the developing world are NOT getting a fair deal in the race to test new drugs. I know a Californian who owns one of the drug testing companies that uses Mexicans as subjects, and while he is not unethical, the reason he comes to Mexico is that he isn't required to go to the same lengths to protect the subjects that he would be required in the US.
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Posted by: pure_genius on Jun 14, 2006 7:39 AM
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What is coming to light in some circles is the horrible tests that are done on children in collusion with state child welfare agencies.
Everything from AIDS drugs to psychotropics have been forced on children. While all these drugs are FDA approved, most can only be safely used in adults. I have personal experience with psychotropics. For no good reason, the pharmaceutical industry wanted data on how severely potent drugs like Haloperidol, meant for deep psychotics, would affect children. Based on data from adult patients, their best guest was the affects would be severe. The child welfare agencies involved, most likely take a kickback and look the other way. When kids attempt to resist, the drug is given by injection.
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Zyprexa, which is used for the treatment of psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, accounted for 32% of Eli Lilly's $14.6 billion revenue last year.
Zyprexa is the product name for Olanzapine,it is Lilly's top selling drug.It was approved by the FDA in 1996 ,an 'atypical' antipsychotic a newer class of drugs without the motor side effects of the older Thorazine.Zyprexa has been linked to causing diabetes and pancreatitis.
Did you know that Lilly made nearly $3 billion last year on diabetic meds, Actos,Humulin and Byetta?
Yes! They sell a drug that can cause diabetes and then turn a profit on the drugs that treat the condition that they may have caused in the first place!
I was prescribed Zyprexa from 1996 until 2000.
In early 2000 i was shocked to have an A1C test result of 13.9 (normal is 4-6) I have no history of diabetes in my family.
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Posted by: cry0fan on Jun 9, 2006 3:40 AM
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So what a big part of American medicine (and indeed much of western medicine) is, is built around boosting corporate pharma profits by developing drugs that only provide some incremental improvement in treatment, as opposed to groundbreaking fundamental research. These low lying fruit provide better returns for investment, and more profits. They are easier to pick off. Big Pharma would rather create ever more small (sometimes miniscule) improvements, rather than spend big money to go after the fruit at the top, like curing heart disease, cancer, which require more expensive, long term fundamental research.
I would say that this sort of 3rd world pharma experimentation is OK, but only if it includes fundamental research. It is a crime to hurt these people just for corporate profits when the real benefits are so small, and really is just to improve profits.
Go after the fruit at the top and I would say it is OK.
But then again, I am an American and what goes on in other countries is really none of my business, and none of yours, either, if you are an American.
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Posted by: wawa on Jun 9, 2006 3:56 AM
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...Health care is NOT a commodity. The facts on the ground are that the richest country in the world has 46 million uninsured and many millions more that are underinsured. This is gross injustice where the rich get tax cuts and the poor go without basic health care in the land we claim is of the free and the proud.
Uninsured and insured alike all watch TV and are bombarded with drug ads enticing them with promises of energy, sexual potency or just the ability to go fishing without the ache of baby boomer osteoarthritis....
read more: http://www.opednews.com
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 9, 2006 7:26 AM
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Take for example the Vioxx-Celebrexx-etc. painkiller story. These drugs all go under the classification of COX-2 inhibitors; that's an enzyme called cyclooxygenase that plays a role in pain responses. Once it was noted that these drug worked, big pharma began looking for new versions that they could patent. All across the country, research programs sprung up in public universities that were funded/controlled by big pharma 'sponsors' focused on finding new Cox-2 inhibitors. See the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine for the gory details on the resulting corruption.
It's cheaper to get the public university to do private research for a drug company with taxpayer funds then it is for the company to set up their own research program - again, the pharma company has an ironclad intellectual property agreement with the university which allows the company to 'own' the research - lovely.
Even though FDA scientists raised strong concerns about the Cox-2 drugs, the FDA ruling board (with a good percentage of pharma employees) ruled in favor of releasing the drugs. Deaths resulted, the drugs were withdrawn, and now the companies are being sued - but shouldn't the FDA also be sued, in that case? Media Matters coverage of FDA corruption.
Note that the takeover of federal regulatory agencies is a common Bush team theme with Big Pharma and Big Oil, from the Federal Trade Commission to the Federal Drug Agency to the Securities and Exchange Commission...Bush role in Big Pharma at Media Matters.
If the drug is 50 years old and in the public domain, Big Pharma isn't interested in promoting it because anyone can come along and make a cheap generic version of the drug - no matter how effective the drug is. A heavy part of pharmaceutical marketing is therefore aimed at promoting the 'best NEW drugs'.
Doctors tend to be aware of this more then patients are, but pharma companies target both ends - the patient and the doctor - using very comprehensive marketing. That's why sales and marketing tend to be about 2/3 of a pharma company budget, while research is only 1/3.
Even in the US, the pharma trials are dirty and have resulted in all kinds of scandal. The SFBC drug test center in Florida was recently shut down (Bloomberg Report). How much worse must things be outside the US, in some corrupt dictator-run country? Oh wait - were do we live?
What can you do? Go with the cheaper traditional drugs if at all possible - and take your kids off the pharmaceutical speed ADD drugs.
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Posted by: lonpine on Jun 9, 2006 8:11 AM
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In the pharm industry there's always a huge huge drive to shrink timelines. It took us 6 weeks to do X? This time let's do it in 4. You tell project managers at these companies that it's for the sake of patients who need this drug, and it's easy to forget about important ethical concerns. In some companies, it's amazing how strong a laserbeam like focus there is in meeting aggressive timelines. 99% of these people are good people- they get up in the morning and want to make a difference in the world; they have children they're want to provide for; they want to do good work.
Successful corporations that move fast build systems to make it easy to move fast, have ways of framing their problems in terms of moving fast and removing obstacles to that momentum. Companies are rarely looking for ways to second guess what they're doing. Rather they're looking for ways to make decisions faster, to speed up processes, to get data faster.
They only build in checks b/c it's required by the law, or b/c of past, bad experiences, which can be easily forgotten.
That's why strong regulation is essential. A perfect example where regulation protects an industry rather than impedes it.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 9, 2006 9:30 AM
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Cryp is a parasite. How could antiretrovirals have benefitted these kids? Did the kids suffering from cryptosporidiosis have late-stage AIDS? If so, how would they have survived? What about the many other drugs that have been developed to manage HIV symptoms? Are they all equally unethical, villainously developed, in a horrific way, using evil money, heartlessly? You might consider directing that question to someone on HART.
Meh. I'm just glad some folks have the courage not to let a few logic bombs get in the way of a beautiful ideology, one free from the constraints of nasty chemicals and medicine.
If you get a signed copy of the book, I urge you to be careful and wear gloves. We've gone from developing 6-10 new types of antibiotics per year to around 0...or maybe 2 during a good year. (And those 2 are almost always chemical variants of existing drugs). That's ok, though. The demand for "risk-free" drugs for those of us suffering from the ravages of smoking, big macs, and poor choices with what we do with our naughty bits outweighs the need to develop new medicines. It makes absolute sense, after all, that a small number of SAREs should terminate development on drugs that might benefit thousands of people.
Best example is the rotavirus vaccine RotaShield. For comparison, the polio vaccine would have never made it to market using these guidelines.
Oh, with the antibiotics--I'm dead serious. We're losing, and we're losing faster every year. Undoubtedly, that will please the "too many people on the planet" crowd...as long as it isn't their kid (do as they say, not as they do) who dies from a staphylococcus infection that could have been treated by a $4.00 dose of penicillin forty years ago.
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Posted by: pianojo on Jun 9, 2006 12:07 PM
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What, after all, is the difference?
Personally, I LOATHE Big Pharma and my fondest wish is that one day they will go to hell where they belong.
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Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 9, 2006 12:16 PM
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CLICK HERE
The drugs of BIG PHARMA are designed to stop symptoms but to preserve the underlying condition so the person will be dependent on the drug until they die. Not to mention, the side effects from the drugs will produce more illnesses requiring more symptom-masking drugs, on and on.
It's all a big racket. National Healthcare? Please, spare me. I'll stick to my vitamins and my raw milk, spring butter, cod liver oil, and avoiding the food industry's processed food.
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Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 9, 2006 12:22 PM
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Asian people have eaten soy but ONLY WHEN FERMENTED. A small amount of true soy sauce or miso, produced by fermentation, is fine. But fermenation is the ONLY WAY TO DESTROY THE TOXINS/ANTINUTRIENTS within soy. You can pound it, crush it, boil it, spin it, freeze it, and nothing will get rid of those antinutrients.
Soy should NEVER be fed to infants. Soy will shut down the thyroid faster than anything. MSG is made from soy.
Soy is pure poison. Check out the Weston A Price Foundation on-line for more information on soy.
I have eliminated all soy from my diet, along with all MSG. Finally I am no longer a slave to my appetite.
Where does AlterNet get its information from? Time Magazine? This is the INTERNET. People here are looking for TRUTH, not more propaganda.
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Posted by: pianojo on Jun 9, 2006 12:24 PM
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I haven't used drugs in decades, unless absolutely pushed to the wall and there is no other choice. Believe me when I tell you there is ALWAYS a choice. In the few instances over the last 30 years that I have had to use a drug, it was for a very very short period of time, until I could find an alternative.
Let me give you an example. A few years ago I was diagnosed with asthma. I literally could NOT breathe. I went to a doctor who gave me an inhaler. Then it was off to the nutritionist who gave me supplements and - the thing that literally saved my life - a little bottle of peppermint oil. I inhale that very very deeply and it opens up the air passages. In addition I started using xylitol nose spray.
Finally, I found a book, FREEDOM FROM ASTHMA, written by Alexander Stalmatiski, a disciple of Konstantin Buteyko (who is very well known in Russia I have told) who developed a breathing system to overcome asthma. It works. I use it every day.
So, no more having to use the inhaler which contains steroids.
Remember: You are not sick because of a drug deficiency. You are sick because you have an imbalance in your body and if you bring your body back into balance, you won't be sick. This may sound completely off the wall but having done this for 30 years - half of my life - I can tell you it works!
This is not to say that sometimes more isn't required. Sometimes, it is. But for me, drugs and surgery are way down on the list. I ALWAYS use alternative FIRST. Alternatives are non-invasive and generally don't have side effects. They also don't usually kill people. Drugs and surgery canNOT make such a claim.
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Posted by: tomvincze on Jun 9, 2006 1:34 PM
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All AIDS activist groups are financed by Big Pharma and they are zealots of the highest order. It seems that the more toxic the "therapy", the more mindless and adamant are the histrionics to get the drugs out there to people, many of whom aren't even sick and in the case of Africa, most have never even been tested for HIV!
If you want to read a good book on the corruption that surrounds the whole AIDS fiasco read John Crewdson's Science Fictions and Celia Farber's Serious Adverse Events for starters.
The history of AIDS is astonishing in how science has been turned on its head in order to "accomodate" the many inconsistencies of this most political and suspect dogma.
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Posted by: aussidawg on Jun 9, 2006 4:29 PM
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The total number of deaths from prescription drugs since 9/11 is 16,400% higher than the deaths from terrorists.
Prescription drugs kill more people than terrorists, murders, car accidents, plane accidents, swimming pool accidents, and infant deaths combined.
If there were a wall in Washington D.C. listing all of the deaths to Americans caused by FDA approved drugs, similar to the Viet Nam Memorial Wall, the wall would go for miles and you wouldn't be able to read every name onn the wall uness you had several years to do so.
The article further states that many prescription drugs are marked up 55,000 percent over the cost of raw materials. This is an absolute outrage, and many members of our government (George Bush Sr., Donald Rumsfeld and more) have ties to the pharmacutical industry.
So...what's next? The medicare Rx pan was a welfare check to the pharmacutical industry, any ideas about the up and comming bird fu? Stay tuned folks 'cause we ain't seen nutin yet!!!
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If these international gangsters can make money while they kill us off, all the better. Give us something that makes us feel better because the symptoms are masked and the brain is deceived. At the same time, the drug will attack the organs and bring on more disease, requiring more drugs to mask those symptoms.
If you've not seen the movie on-line, you gotta. This movie drives the establishment medical industry people nuts. They hate it. I posted it above.
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Posted by: dkm on Jun 13, 2006 9:16 AM
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Having said that, I have no doubt that the poor people in the developing world are NOT getting a fair deal in the race to test new drugs. I know a Californian who owns one of the drug testing companies that uses Mexicans as subjects, and while he is not unethical, the reason he comes to Mexico is that he isn't required to go to the same lengths to protect the subjects that he would be required in the US.
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Posted by: pure_genius on Jun 14, 2006 7:39 AM
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What is coming to light in some circles is the horrible tests that are done on children in collusion with state child welfare agencies.
Everything from AIDS drugs to psychotropics have been forced on children. While all these drugs are FDA approved, most can only be safely used in adults. I have personal experience with psychotropics. For no good reason, the pharmaceutical industry wanted data on how severely potent drugs like Haloperidol, meant for deep psychotics, would affect children. Based on data from adult patients, their best guest was the affects would be severe. The child welfare agencies involved, most likely take a kickback and look the other way. When kids attempt to resist, the drug is given by injection.
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Posted by: DannyHaszard on Aug 14, 2006 11:10 AM
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Zyprexa, which is used for the treatment of psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, accounted for 32% of Eli Lilly's $14.6 billion revenue last year.
Zyprexa is the product name for Olanzapine,it is Lilly's top selling drug.It was approved by the FDA in 1996 ,an 'atypical' antipsychotic a newer class of drugs without the motor side effects of the older Thorazine.Zyprexa has been linked to causing diabetes and pancreatitis.
Did you know that Lilly made nearly $3 billion last year on diabetic meds, Actos,Humulin and Byetta?
Yes! They sell a drug that can cause diabetes and then turn a profit on the drugs that treat the condition that they may have caused in the first place!
I was prescribed Zyprexa from 1996 until 2000.
In early 2000 i was shocked to have an A1C test result of 13.9 (normal is 4-6) I have no history of diabetes in my family.
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