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But Bush will arrive with heavy baggage: Last week allegations surfaced that Bush's mother and stepfather, Denise and LaMar Griffin, lived rent-free in a $750,000 home owned by California businessman Michael Michaels, and that Michaels allegedly arranged to clear up the Griffins' $28,000 debt and pay for their trips to Bush's away games last year. Michaels also claims that, in exchange for this deal, Bush would sign with Michaels' firm and hire an agent of Michaels' choosing.
If all of this is true, of course, it would mean that Bush violated NCAA rules prohibiting a college athlete (and his family) from accepting anything that would jeopardize that player's amateur status. But Bush acknowledges no wrongdoing and denies involvement in this arrangement. The NFL Players Association and the PAC 10 Conference are investigating the charges.
Should the investigations find Bush guilty, then his 2005 Heisman Trophy could be stripped. The NCAA is very clear on its rules for amateur athletes, and the governing body of college athletics will not allow anyone, even someone of Bush's fame, to tarnish the dignity with which it conducts business.
But last season, while the USC Trojans attempted to win a third straight championship, Bush was featured on the cover of just about every major sports magazine. His No. 5 jersey was sold in bunches throughout Southern California, and in every other American town, for that matter. Life was good; at least it was for the people collecting the proceeds on that No. 5.
No one knows for sure how much money college athletes earn for their universities, but we do know for sure is that it's a considerable sum. Robert Brown, a professor of economics at Cal State-San Marcos, has tried for the past 15 years to calculate the financial impact an athlete has on his or her university.
Using direct revenues, such as ticket sales and television contract dollars, Brown compares the total team revenue to all of the revenue-making factors that contribute to it. He predicts a premium college football player is worth at least $500,000 to his university. Brown explained, "It's an estimate, an approximation. If you ask me where Bush fits in, I'd say he's worth quite a bit more than that amount. Reggie Bush isn't your typical premium player. He's the premium player."
Brown's method does not include indirect revenue, such as increased jersey and hot dog sales. But he admits that if he did, the projected value of Bush would climb considerably. Consider that during a two-day period prior to the Trojans' Rose Bowl meeting with the University of Texas, more than 1,000 No. 5 USC jerseys with a Rose Bowl emblem on them flew off the shelves at roughly $80 apiece. With a startling figure like that, it starts to make sense how having a Heisman Trophy winner might impact ticket sales and thus concession sales. How many more programs are bought as keepsakes? Just think about how many students might choose USC simply because it has the nation's best football program. The list goes on and on, and the only people keeping track are the ones who likely know little about football, only its economic value to educational institutions.
In short, college athletics generates a fat bottom line every year. And the labor is as cheap as it gets.
For a century the NCAA has paid its athletes slave wages because it has held firm to its stance on amateur status. But that policy does not hold up to today's supply and demand for sports entertainment, and amateur status is merely a hurdle for hordes of otherwise good kids in their attempts to collect on what's rightfully theirs anyway.
Sure, you can always argue that college athletes get a free ride to school, and they live like kings on campus. Bush lived the life of a celebrity on campus and in Los Angeles, but it is a far cry from reaping the financial benefits that come with such a status. Bush helped pour perhaps millions of dollars into the university's pocket during his three years in the limelight, but for that he was only given a comfortable bed and good food to eat.
So, naturally, a kid like Bush feels he deserves more. He is a star, after all. He is on the cover of ESPN the Magazine and the Sporting News. Why shouldn't his family be able to stay in a house he could probably afford a thousand times over today, now that he is a spokesperson for Adidas, Hummer and Subway?
And Bush is not alone in this situation. The past few years have served up quite a few examples that understore this point:
- On Monday, it was reported that USC quarterback Matt Leinart (now a member of the Arizona Cardinals) and wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett may have violated NCAA rules by underpaying for an apartment off-campus furnished by Leinart's father. The two players each paid $650 per month for real estate that cost nearly three times that amount (Leinart's father paid the difference).
- Last summer, two University of Connecticut basketball players were charged for stealing laptops from campus dorm rooms. A.J. Price and Marcus Williams were both recognizable names on a team that was widely considered a frontrunner for winning a national title.
- In 2002, Florida State's Adrian McPherson was charged in a check-cashing scam that involved illegal gambling. At the time, McPherson was a quarterback for one of the nation's most visible programs, and he was considered a promising NFL prospect.
Would those players need to gamble and steal if they were more adequately compensated for their services? Perhaps, perhaps not. What I think can be argued is that you can't build a kid into a celebrity without handing him the financial benefits that come with it and not expect trouble to come of it.
What's worse, the NCAA's strict policy hurts kids who don't cheat or steal, too. University of Colorado wide receiver Jeremy Bloom was made a fifth-round pick by the Philadelphia Eagles last weekend. He may have been drafted higher had the NCAA allowed him to play during the 2004 and 2005 seasons. Bloom, a two-time Olympic skier, was denied by the NCAA because he accepted sponsorship money for his skiing career. Those sponsorship dollars are almost essential for a skier to compete at that level, but the NCAA told Bloom it was one or the other. Bloom thumbed his nose to the NCAA and finished sixth in the moguls freestyle at Torino this past February.
Sometimes a set of checks and balances needs to be put on a governing body like the NCAA. Clearly, the NCAA is hypocritically endorsing and profiting from a system that tempts nationally known athletes to commit petty crimes just so that they might live the life of luxury everyone assumes they already live.
I'll admit that if the Griffins and Bush are indeed guilty of what Michaels claims, then some sort of punishment is in order. If such is the case, then the Griffins should repay the sum of what Michaels lent them during the past year. It might also be only right that Bush gives back his Heisman, seeing that the award stands for how a player carries himself as much as it recognizes outstanding individual achievement.
But the NCAA needs to learn its lesson, too. Amateur status is no longer applicable to today's star athletes. When a player like Bush is making millions for his university, you can't expect him not to feel like he's owed something. As Robert Brown says, "There's a market for these players, and if the money can't flow over the table, it's going to flow under it."
My solution is simple: Allow college players to sign limited endorsements for companies that meet certain criteria. That way, the university and the NCAA can keep a firm grasp on the pot of gold they're already making from these kids, and Madison Avenue can help someone like Reggie Bush live the life he's entitled to.
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Posted by: igoeja on May 4, 2006 4:02 AM
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For a more realistic, and less anecdotal, review of sports in academia, try The Game of Life.
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Posted by: jsquire on May 4, 2006 6:51 AM
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Many football and basketball players are underpaid for what they do. The remaining scholarship athletes are then overpaid, since their programs all post financial losses. Should we then make them pay for the losses they incur?
What we should question is not whether the idea of big-time college athletics is fair, but whether it should exist at all.
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Posted by: doodledoo on May 4, 2006 7:14 AM
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"Would those players need to gamble and steal if they were more adequately compensated for their services?"
Are you kidding me?! We're now excusing THEFT? There are thousands of Walmart workers and field workers who make a pittance but they don't STEAL. AND they'll never darken the doors of a university FOR FREE.
I attend a school in the SEC where basketball is everything. We've lost world-reknown scholars because the university's lack of competitive salaries but you can bet that the basketball team's budget is never wanting. I work full time, am working on my PhD, and paying over 300 a month in school loans from undergrad (and I had a scholarship to boot). It's up in the in the air whether or not I'll get my tuition paid for the next semester, I have a parking space 2 miles from campus while the basketball losers are 300 feet from the main building. Most of my colleagues live on 12,000 a year and are threatened with losing funding if they try to seek employment outside of the university. Let's see most of the undergrad housing is roach infested and rundown while the ballplayers live in a very nice 'lodge' with mysteriously nice cars parked in the back. And Alternet has the AUDACITY to tell me I should feel sorry for these people???
When a ballplayer finds a cure for cancer or discovers a pre-historic artifiact maybe I'll buy into your victimization screed. But until then I would advise them to be thankful for getting something that 95 percent of the country will never get in their lives: free education, free room and board, and a ready supply of get out of jail free cards.
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Posted by: doktordubbs on May 4, 2006 7:32 AM
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p.s. - I like sports, too, but they are certainly a fine method of indoctrination to nationalism/territorialism. Wilhelm Reich wrote that preoccupation or irrational dedication to sports teams is a precondition for a fascist state.
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Posted by: gonzomax on May 4, 2006 7:47 AM
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Better yet,big time college sports should be eliminated,except for intramural.Then pro sports can develop minor leagues like baseball.
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Posted by: dissidentpoet on May 4, 2006 9:45 AM
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high schools in much of this country are a joke. i know there are good teachers; i know many, and have had them in my life. but a lot of them, as good as they are, are overworked, underfunded and not supported. there are no supplies, no time, no trust between the faculty, administration, and students, little support from the state, etc.
i know a number of people whose only path to school is sports. these are not the folks who make millions when they graduate. one of the reasons that the NCAA Final Four in basketball is so exciting is because most of those players, even in the "playoffs," are quite aware that they have no real career in basketball ahead of them.
i say all this to say that often students who play sports in school are similar to other students who work full time to pay for school. they are putting in the hours, and struggling to get through it all. one big difference, though, is in the pressure and demands each faces. again, i say this as a student, who is feeling the demands. but i have no one trying to tell me what to study, or demanding my time when i am not working, or telling me to deal with the media, or any of that. while student athletes are getting an education (if they push to make sure that they do), many are encouraged/forced to spend little time studying and more time practicing. i have seen/read about too many student athletes who graduate and can barely read.
and when you have a system where so much money is being thrown around (i know that big time programs sometimes lose money, though higher enrollment and alumni donations can make that up) it is ridiculous to think that student athletes should not enter into where that money goes. after all, it is their bodies that people are watching and paying money for. i know that when i first applied to college, i sent out applications to 6 schools: 3 were in my home state and i knew of, the other 3 i really knew through watching their sports teams.
one thing that muddies the water for me: i remember an interview with stephan marbury, now of the NY Knicks. he said how when he was in high school, everyone in his neighborhood knew he had a good chance to make it in the NBA, and expected him to make money, and bring it back to the neighborhood. they protected him, kept him out of trouble, and if anyone threatened him (something that happens anyway but even more so when potential money and fame are involved), people he didn't even know stood up for him. the understanding was that once he got paid, he would, as the saying goes, "look out.;" meaning that he would enjoy his money but use some of it for those who helped him get it. he talked of how he was putting a lot of relatives through college and supporting his extended family in other ways, as well as giving back to his neighborhood.
now, i am not saying that marbury, by any means, is a hero or good guy, (trust me: as a Kincks fan, i know he is no hero) or that athletes in any way deserve the money they recieve. as long as athletes are paid more than teachers, we're gonna have troubles. all i am saying is that this is a complex issue, and we should not just write off these young athletes and their problems because they recieve an education.
i do not know what the answer is, i just feel for some of these young people, and i know that in some neighborhoods selling your body is the only way to get to school.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on May 4, 2006 9:57 AM
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I had a friend that was a brainchild growing up, an absolute genius more or less. However we come from a city of ill repute where even being extremely smart means nothing more than you succeeded at a crappy school. This guy was accepted to MIT but couldn't afford it and didn't qualify for assistance. But the author of this article is worried about Reggie Bush not getting his cut of the profits even though he's given a free ride and everything he wants? INJUSTICE!
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Posted by: ccbite on May 4, 2006 10:00 AM
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Second, I dispute this idea that people are stealing laptops just to make ends meet. Athletics and their boosters seem to only reinforce this idea that jocks can pull the same sh*t that they did in high school without any reprisal.
Third, the reason college sports are so popular is because it all comes down to bragging rights for the alumni. Follow the money, as they say. Alumni sees their team win, they get to feel good about belonging to something 'bigger' than themselves and they open up their pockets with donations. When the team wins it brings media exposure and TV contracts which further boosts enrollment.
Let's face it, the Greek ideal of striving for both physical and cerebral excellence has been taken to the taxidermist long ago. Since there is so much money in amateur sports, how will giving money to college athletes solve anything as a culture? Look what has happened in the NBA. The players are leaving earlier and earlier to play at the professional level and the gravy train recruiters are looking younger and younger for talent. (Preschool anyone?)
I realize sports provide a safety valve for society, but sometimes, I wish they would just go away temporarily so that more pressing issues could be addressed (you know ... like illegal wars, torture, things like that ....)
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Posted by: NoPCZone on May 4, 2006 10:30 AM
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Aside from the money issue is a more important one- mission. The primary mission of any College or University is to educate and enlighten students to become well-rounded, well-spoken, well-informed people capable of critical thought and the training required for a particular discipline or career path. Every program, from intramural sports through drama groups to professional fraternal organizations and campus political groups goes through that filter. Varsity athletics, most notably Division I Football and Basketball have long been given a pass.
The very fact that most Division I Football, and many Basketball, coaches make as much, if not more, than the Presidents of their Schools tells you that affairs are out of order. There is very little economic argument to justify the huge amounts of money spent by schools to have a 'big time' Football and Basketball program. When it adds to the already significant financial burden imposed upon students and in the instance of public schools, taxpayers, someone needs to stand up and say ENOUGH.
Under critical analysis, every talking point used in the media by pundits for the current system fall flat. They are always 'straw men' designed to distract debate from the central mission and purpose of a University of College. Varsity athletic programs were designed for the enrichment of students that were at school to pursue an academic degree. That is still the case in Division II & III Football. Bringing in ill-prepared kids under lower admission standards that commonly do not graduate to play sports is a corruption of that concept.
If the NBA & NFL had proper minor leagues as MLB has, the scandals and problems in NCAA Football & Basketball would largely go away. As it currently operates, the NFL and NBA are the recipients of a huge subsidy in the form of a farm team system paid for by students, and in the case of public schools-taxpayers. The ugly truth is that most of these kids do not graduate-- they simply use the school as a springboard for a shot at the Pro Leagues. The ones who pay for it are the real students who get tagged for the cost with student fees, higher tuition, & money starved academic programs and activities. It's just wrong.
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Posted by: Deke on May 4, 2006 10:47 AM
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Athletes who display promise early in their lives are treated to a life of privilege, and treated as royalty by those around them. They develop a mindset that laws don’t apply to them, and that is why there is a different athlete in the news every day, for breaking one law or another. The most perverse part of this is that there are still a segment of parents who teach their children (or rather, don’t teach them otherwise) that these athletes are “heroes”. They’re nothing of the sort, they’re simply people who don’t have the same kind of job as most of the rest of us.
Besides, athletes are already paid on the side, and nearly everyone within the university --- any university – food chain already knows this. Ignoring this is like ignoring the elephant in the room.
Other non-athletic students, from those studying literature to marine biology to education are the ones truly contributing to our society. America’s priorities seem to be terminally ass-backward right now, and have been for some time. I enjoy sports as much as the next person, but I also see those who bleed their team’s colors, able to roll off their team’s history at the push of a button. I’m sorry, but that is misplaced passion, in my eyes. There are far more important things in this world to dedicate one’s life to.
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Posted by: nikitasan on May 4, 2006 11:26 AM
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The fact is, we have created a system that exploits athletes for the profit of the NCAA and the universities. Exploitation is either wrong or it isn't. It doesn't depend on what sins the student athelete might have committed. And even if you believe the entire sports culture should be abolished, it is simply unfair for univeristies and NCAA to make money on the backs of kids that, while under scholarship, are not allowed to earn their own money.
I have friends who played both college and professional football and when you see it from the inside, you realize that college and pro athletes are often simply pawns in the corporate game to make more profits; Often at the expense of their education and their health. Is this really the athletes fault? I don't think so. Should the perks of being an athlete be available to everyone? Of course. But just because they aren't doesn't mean we should crush the athlete for playing the system the best way s/he can to make a living. This is the system we helped to create after all.
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Posted by: Jeffersonista on May 4, 2006 7:35 PM
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sports clowns hoping to break into the big circus.
Get real, get the facts. College sports as a money maker is a big lie. It just bleeds money out of the state education funds, that other wise would pay for teachers and classrooms.
It is a sad day when the biggest event on most campuses is a beer besotted bacanale of knuckedragging bruisers cavorting in a field that just happens to be the biggest single annual expense and takes decades to pay off the mortgage on. Why are all the good jobs going to Inda now. Maybe because they don't worship jocks and instead respect scholarship and learning.
The great sports bust started a few years ago if you have not noticed. Most major league publicly funded subsidized communist operations barely sell more than a third of there tickets. TV is getting really good at not showing the empty bleachers. Whe the oil runs out, sports subsidies will be the first go to and not a day to soon.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on May 4, 2006 11:48 PM
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She could not go to her first choice school because of the cost despite being more than academically qualified. Compare that to the athlete on a full ride athletic scholarship. No loans, no debt, easier admission (most elite school athletes would not make the cut on their academics) and, despite NCAA Rules, better accommodations. If they bother to go to class and learn they can walk away with a $160,000 education and a Duke Diploma for nothing more than playing a sport they love. Even if they don't make it to the pros they have received a gift of incredible value. Yes, I said gift. A free education for playing a kid's game is a gift.
So here we have potential student A, fully qualified academically and serious about an education, but does not go due to an overwhelming burden of debt. She wants to teach school, so a huge loan is not an option. Potential student B is not as qualified academically or interested in earning a degree, but can play ball. Student B gets in, plays ball for a couple of years and either drops out or goes hardship draft to the Pros without a degree. The bright student was denied a premier education that would be passed on to numerous students through teaching while an indifferent student who wants to play Pro ball can use the school as a training camp for free.
This happens every year at schools all over this country and it is wrong. If you expect me to feel sorry for pampered 'scholar athletes' who are often not even community college academic material, you are sorely mistaken. These kids have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than making a career in the Pros and piss away the only shot they will ever have and the schools play along under pressure from alumni and others. If athletes are victims it is only of their own delusion. The schools are just complicit.
Rather than bitch about not having money to play and party with they might consider going to class or a tutoring session.
One of my old college friends went to school working 3 part-time jobs, drove a car he cobbled together from 2 wrecked ones and paid his own way without any scholarships or loans. Even though he worked part-time in the cafeteria he could only afford the 10 meal plan and ate PBJ for most of the rest of his meals. For 4 years. Nobody in his family had more than a HS Diploma. He is a Lawyer now.
Ask him if he feels sorry for the athletes who ate Steak at the 'Training Table" while those of us who paid for our food got Mystery Meat. Ask him if he liked paying an 'Athletics Fee' that helped subsidize the Varsity Teams that he paid for working 3 jobs while going to class. Ask him if he liked paying for a Dorm Room that resembled a Prison while Football and Basketball 'Scholar Athletes' lived in special dorms that they paid nothing for. Some of these things are illegal now but still go on in a more roundabout way.
I love to watch NCAA Football and Basketball as well as the next person but have no delusions as to what is going on. The 'Athletes' are owed nothing. In fact, they owe the paying students thanks for the free school, room and board they get to play a kid's game.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on May 5, 2006 2:52 PM
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Otherwise, they live on campus, play the sport and if they feel like leaving to go play in the big leagues, "bye, have a nice life".
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For a more realistic, and less anecdotal, review of sports in academia, try The Game of Life.
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Posted by: jsquire on May 4, 2006 6:51 AM
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Many football and basketball players are underpaid for what they do. The remaining scholarship athletes are then overpaid, since their programs all post financial losses. Should we then make them pay for the losses they incur?
What we should question is not whether the idea of big-time college athletics is fair, but whether it should exist at all.
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Posted by: doodledoo on May 4, 2006 7:14 AM
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"Would those players need to gamble and steal if they were more adequately compensated for their services?"
Are you kidding me?! We're now excusing THEFT? There are thousands of Walmart workers and field workers who make a pittance but they don't STEAL. AND they'll never darken the doors of a university FOR FREE.
I attend a school in the SEC where basketball is everything. We've lost world-reknown scholars because the university's lack of competitive salaries but you can bet that the basketball team's budget is never wanting. I work full time, am working on my PhD, and paying over 300 a month in school loans from undergrad (and I had a scholarship to boot). It's up in the in the air whether or not I'll get my tuition paid for the next semester, I have a parking space 2 miles from campus while the basketball losers are 300 feet from the main building. Most of my colleagues live on 12,000 a year and are threatened with losing funding if they try to seek employment outside of the university. Let's see most of the undergrad housing is roach infested and rundown while the ballplayers live in a very nice 'lodge' with mysteriously nice cars parked in the back. And Alternet has the AUDACITY to tell me I should feel sorry for these people???
When a ballplayer finds a cure for cancer or discovers a pre-historic artifiact maybe I'll buy into your victimization screed. But until then I would advise them to be thankful for getting something that 95 percent of the country will never get in their lives: free education, free room and board, and a ready supply of get out of jail free cards.
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Posted by: doktordubbs on May 4, 2006 7:32 AM
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p.s. - I like sports, too, but they are certainly a fine method of indoctrination to nationalism/territorialism. Wilhelm Reich wrote that preoccupation or irrational dedication to sports teams is a precondition for a fascist state.
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Posted by: gonzomax on May 4, 2006 7:47 AM
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Better yet,big time college sports should be eliminated,except for intramural.Then pro sports can develop minor leagues like baseball.
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Posted by: dissidentpoet on May 4, 2006 9:45 AM
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high schools in much of this country are a joke. i know there are good teachers; i know many, and have had them in my life. but a lot of them, as good as they are, are overworked, underfunded and not supported. there are no supplies, no time, no trust between the faculty, administration, and students, little support from the state, etc.
i know a number of people whose only path to school is sports. these are not the folks who make millions when they graduate. one of the reasons that the NCAA Final Four in basketball is so exciting is because most of those players, even in the "playoffs," are quite aware that they have no real career in basketball ahead of them.
i say all this to say that often students who play sports in school are similar to other students who work full time to pay for school. they are putting in the hours, and struggling to get through it all. one big difference, though, is in the pressure and demands each faces. again, i say this as a student, who is feeling the demands. but i have no one trying to tell me what to study, or demanding my time when i am not working, or telling me to deal with the media, or any of that. while student athletes are getting an education (if they push to make sure that they do), many are encouraged/forced to spend little time studying and more time practicing. i have seen/read about too many student athletes who graduate and can barely read.
and when you have a system where so much money is being thrown around (i know that big time programs sometimes lose money, though higher enrollment and alumni donations can make that up) it is ridiculous to think that student athletes should not enter into where that money goes. after all, it is their bodies that people are watching and paying money for. i know that when i first applied to college, i sent out applications to 6 schools: 3 were in my home state and i knew of, the other 3 i really knew through watching their sports teams.
one thing that muddies the water for me: i remember an interview with stephan marbury, now of the NY Knicks. he said how when he was in high school, everyone in his neighborhood knew he had a good chance to make it in the NBA, and expected him to make money, and bring it back to the neighborhood. they protected him, kept him out of trouble, and if anyone threatened him (something that happens anyway but even more so when potential money and fame are involved), people he didn't even know stood up for him. the understanding was that once he got paid, he would, as the saying goes, "look out.;" meaning that he would enjoy his money but use some of it for those who helped him get it. he talked of how he was putting a lot of relatives through college and supporting his extended family in other ways, as well as giving back to his neighborhood.
now, i am not saying that marbury, by any means, is a hero or good guy, (trust me: as a Kincks fan, i know he is no hero) or that athletes in any way deserve the money they recieve. as long as athletes are paid more than teachers, we're gonna have troubles. all i am saying is that this is a complex issue, and we should not just write off these young athletes and their problems because they recieve an education.
i do not know what the answer is, i just feel for some of these young people, and i know that in some neighborhoods selling your body is the only way to get to school.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on May 4, 2006 9:57 AM
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I had a friend that was a brainchild growing up, an absolute genius more or less. However we come from a city of ill repute where even being extremely smart means nothing more than you succeeded at a crappy school. This guy was accepted to MIT but couldn't afford it and didn't qualify for assistance. But the author of this article is worried about Reggie Bush not getting his cut of the profits even though he's given a free ride and everything he wants? INJUSTICE!
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Posted by: ccbite on May 4, 2006 10:00 AM
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Second, I dispute this idea that people are stealing laptops just to make ends meet. Athletics and their boosters seem to only reinforce this idea that jocks can pull the same sh*t that they did in high school without any reprisal.
Third, the reason college sports are so popular is because it all comes down to bragging rights for the alumni. Follow the money, as they say. Alumni sees their team win, they get to feel good about belonging to something 'bigger' than themselves and they open up their pockets with donations. When the team wins it brings media exposure and TV contracts which further boosts enrollment.
Let's face it, the Greek ideal of striving for both physical and cerebral excellence has been taken to the taxidermist long ago. Since there is so much money in amateur sports, how will giving money to college athletes solve anything as a culture? Look what has happened in the NBA. The players are leaving earlier and earlier to play at the professional level and the gravy train recruiters are looking younger and younger for talent. (Preschool anyone?)
I realize sports provide a safety valve for society, but sometimes, I wish they would just go away temporarily so that more pressing issues could be addressed (you know ... like illegal wars, torture, things like that ....)
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Posted by: NoPCZone on May 4, 2006 10:30 AM
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Aside from the money issue is a more important one- mission. The primary mission of any College or University is to educate and enlighten students to become well-rounded, well-spoken, well-informed people capable of critical thought and the training required for a particular discipline or career path. Every program, from intramural sports through drama groups to professional fraternal organizations and campus political groups goes through that filter. Varsity athletics, most notably Division I Football and Basketball have long been given a pass.
The very fact that most Division I Football, and many Basketball, coaches make as much, if not more, than the Presidents of their Schools tells you that affairs are out of order. There is very little economic argument to justify the huge amounts of money spent by schools to have a 'big time' Football and Basketball program. When it adds to the already significant financial burden imposed upon students and in the instance of public schools, taxpayers, someone needs to stand up and say ENOUGH.
Under critical analysis, every talking point used in the media by pundits for the current system fall flat. They are always 'straw men' designed to distract debate from the central mission and purpose of a University of College. Varsity athletic programs were designed for the enrichment of students that were at school to pursue an academic degree. That is still the case in Division II & III Football. Bringing in ill-prepared kids under lower admission standards that commonly do not graduate to play sports is a corruption of that concept.
If the NBA & NFL had proper minor leagues as MLB has, the scandals and problems in NCAA Football & Basketball would largely go away. As it currently operates, the NFL and NBA are the recipients of a huge subsidy in the form of a farm team system paid for by students, and in the case of public schools-taxpayers. The ugly truth is that most of these kids do not graduate-- they simply use the school as a springboard for a shot at the Pro Leagues. The ones who pay for it are the real students who get tagged for the cost with student fees, higher tuition, & money starved academic programs and activities. It's just wrong.
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Posted by: Deke on May 4, 2006 10:47 AM
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Athletes who display promise early in their lives are treated to a life of privilege, and treated as royalty by those around them. They develop a mindset that laws don’t apply to them, and that is why there is a different athlete in the news every day, for breaking one law or another. The most perverse part of this is that there are still a segment of parents who teach their children (or rather, don’t teach them otherwise) that these athletes are “heroes”. They’re nothing of the sort, they’re simply people who don’t have the same kind of job as most of the rest of us.
Besides, athletes are already paid on the side, and nearly everyone within the university --- any university – food chain already knows this. Ignoring this is like ignoring the elephant in the room.
Other non-athletic students, from those studying literature to marine biology to education are the ones truly contributing to our society. America’s priorities seem to be terminally ass-backward right now, and have been for some time. I enjoy sports as much as the next person, but I also see those who bleed their team’s colors, able to roll off their team’s history at the push of a button. I’m sorry, but that is misplaced passion, in my eyes. There are far more important things in this world to dedicate one’s life to.
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Posted by: nikitasan on May 4, 2006 11:26 AM
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The fact is, we have created a system that exploits athletes for the profit of the NCAA and the universities. Exploitation is either wrong or it isn't. It doesn't depend on what sins the student athelete might have committed. And even if you believe the entire sports culture should be abolished, it is simply unfair for univeristies and NCAA to make money on the backs of kids that, while under scholarship, are not allowed to earn their own money.
I have friends who played both college and professional football and when you see it from the inside, you realize that college and pro athletes are often simply pawns in the corporate game to make more profits; Often at the expense of their education and their health. Is this really the athletes fault? I don't think so. Should the perks of being an athlete be available to everyone? Of course. But just because they aren't doesn't mean we should crush the athlete for playing the system the best way s/he can to make a living. This is the system we helped to create after all.
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Posted by: Jeffersonista on May 4, 2006 7:35 PM
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sports clowns hoping to break into the big circus.
Get real, get the facts. College sports as a money maker is a big lie. It just bleeds money out of the state education funds, that other wise would pay for teachers and classrooms.
It is a sad day when the biggest event on most campuses is a beer besotted bacanale of knuckedragging bruisers cavorting in a field that just happens to be the biggest single annual expense and takes decades to pay off the mortgage on. Why are all the good jobs going to Inda now. Maybe because they don't worship jocks and instead respect scholarship and learning.
The great sports bust started a few years ago if you have not noticed. Most major league publicly funded subsidized communist operations barely sell more than a third of there tickets. TV is getting really good at not showing the empty bleachers. Whe the oil runs out, sports subsidies will be the first go to and not a day to soon.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on May 4, 2006 11:48 PM
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She could not go to her first choice school because of the cost despite being more than academically qualified. Compare that to the athlete on a full ride athletic scholarship. No loans, no debt, easier admission (most elite school athletes would not make the cut on their academics) and, despite NCAA Rules, better accommodations. If they bother to go to class and learn they can walk away with a $160,000 education and a Duke Diploma for nothing more than playing a sport they love. Even if they don't make it to the pros they have received a gift of incredible value. Yes, I said gift. A free education for playing a kid's game is a gift.
So here we have potential student A, fully qualified academically and serious about an education, but does not go due to an overwhelming burden of debt. She wants to teach school, so a huge loan is not an option. Potential student B is not as qualified academically or interested in earning a degree, but can play ball. Student B gets in, plays ball for a couple of years and either drops out or goes hardship draft to the Pros without a degree. The bright student was denied a premier education that would be passed on to numerous students through teaching while an indifferent student who wants to play Pro ball can use the school as a training camp for free.
This happens every year at schools all over this country and it is wrong. If you expect me to feel sorry for pampered 'scholar athletes' who are often not even community college academic material, you are sorely mistaken. These kids have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than making a career in the Pros and piss away the only shot they will ever have and the schools play along under pressure from alumni and others. If athletes are victims it is only of their own delusion. The schools are just complicit.
Rather than bitch about not having money to play and party with they might consider going to class or a tutoring session.
One of my old college friends went to school working 3 part-time jobs, drove a car he cobbled together from 2 wrecked ones and paid his own way without any scholarships or loans. Even though he worked part-time in the cafeteria he could only afford the 10 meal plan and ate PBJ for most of the rest of his meals. For 4 years. Nobody in his family had more than a HS Diploma. He is a Lawyer now.
Ask him if he feels sorry for the athletes who ate Steak at the 'Training Table" while those of us who paid for our food got Mystery Meat. Ask him if he liked paying an 'Athletics Fee' that helped subsidize the Varsity Teams that he paid for working 3 jobs while going to class. Ask him if he liked paying for a Dorm Room that resembled a Prison while Football and Basketball 'Scholar Athletes' lived in special dorms that they paid nothing for. Some of these things are illegal now but still go on in a more roundabout way.
I love to watch NCAA Football and Basketball as well as the next person but have no delusions as to what is going on. The 'Athletes' are owed nothing. In fact, they owe the paying students thanks for the free school, room and board they get to play a kid's game.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on May 5, 2006 2:52 PM
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Otherwise, they live on campus, play the sport and if they feel like leaving to go play in the big leagues, "bye, have a nice life".
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