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Impeaching Bush, State by State

By Evan Derkacz, AlterNet. Posted April 26, 2006.


Taking advantage of 'Jefferson's Revenge,' state legislatures have brought impeachment much closer to reality.
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Illinois Rep. Karen A. Yarbrough.

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Forget bird flu, impeachment is spreading across the nation, state by state.

On Tuesday afternoon, Rep. Dave Zuckerman (Prog.-VT) dropped the third of three nearly unreported bombshells on the Bush administration. Zuckerman, along with 12 fellow lawmakers, introduced a formal resolution for the Vermont state legislature to call on the U.S. House of Representatives to impeach President George W. Bush.

With this resolution, Vermont joined the California and Illinois state legislatures, already embroiled in impeachment debates of their own.

For those who still believe impeachment's just a pipe dream, there are several key developments to consider beyond this burgeoning state movement. In addition to the hawkish Zbigniew Brzezinski's op-ed in Tuesday's International Herald Tribune warning that an attack on Iran could merit impeachment, Salon's Michelle Goldberg and my colleague Onnesha Roychoudhuri both noted last month that the "i-word" had gone public.

In an interview with impeachment expert Michael Ratner, Roychoudhuri observed that:

"[T]he distant rumbling is growing louder by the day, creating a resonant echo that is rapidly taking root in public discourse. 'Impeach Him,' reads the cover of this month's Harper's Magazine. And in a public forum in New York City last week, journalists, lawyers and political figures came together to discuss the case against our president."
While the main impediment continues to be a sycophantic Republican majority, polls show that more Americans favor impeachment hearings than currently approve of the job Bush is doing (33 to 32 percent). In addition, as Bob Geiger notes, Bush's state-by-state popularity is lower than even his anemic nationwide figures suggest, with a paltry four states remaining red two years into his second term. In other words, the population has the stomach for it even if the representatives don't.

The legal basis for these unprecedented state-level actions was discovered when, according to Steven Leser, Illinois Rep. Karen A. Yarbrough "stumbled on a little known and never utlitized rule of the U.S. House of Representatives." The rule was written in a book formerly known as Jefferson's Manual, which, according to C-SPAN, "is a book of rules of procedure and parliamentary philosophy … written by Thomas Jefferson in 1801 … [used by the House] as a supplement to its standing rules." Section LIII, sec. 603 states, "There are various methods of setting an impeachment in motion … [one of them is] by charges transmitted from the legislature of a State …"

Each of the three resolutions mentions Iraq lies, torture and illegal spying, with slight variations in tone and specifics. Assemblyman Paul Koretz's California resolution (which includes Dick Cheney) and the Illinois resolution both include the leak of Valerie Plame's identity, while Vermont's focuses almost exclusively on Bush's most salient transgression, his illegal spying on Americans. The spying charge leads the other two resolutions' list of charges as well.

In December, cringing at the prospect of getting scooped by its own reporter's upcoming book on the subject, the New York Times published a story it'd been sitting on for months at the behest of the Bush administration. The front page story by James Risen and Eric Lichtblau outlined a program for illegally spying on American citizens, which had been explicitly authorized by the president. It became popularly known as the NSA Wiretapping Scandal.

Having failed at pressuring the Times into hiding the story for another three years, the Bush administration opted for its signature blend of hubris and fear, at once admitting publicly to having violated the law but hiding beneath the smoke of "terrorism prevention" and the mirrors of the Nixonian prerogative: "When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." Of course, we now know precisely how much water that explanation holds, even if reworded for maximum terror exploitation: "When the commander-in-chief does it, it is not illegal."

Still, despite the fact that no attempt was made to cover up this blatant violation of the law, political will in the Republican-controlled House to bring impeachment was harder to find than a fact in the mouth of Scotty McClellan. Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold's resolution to censure the president (impeachment is a House-only proposition) -- a measure supported by a plurality of American voters -- included a crystal-clear retort to partisan claims that the illegal wiretapping was necessary:
This issue is not about whether the government should be wiretapping terrorists -- of course it should, and it can under current law … But this president and this administration decided to break the law, and they have yet to give a convincing explanation of why their actions were necessary, appropriate or legal.
But the president and his spin doctors had successfully grabbed the reins of the debate by framing the question thusly: "Do you, or do you not, want us to be able to spy on terrorists?" The fact that this and other myths surrounding the president's violation of the law were easily debunked did little to shake Republican Bush worship or Democratic defeatism.

As Feingold's legally toothless censure proposal went into that good night, impeachment took a back seat. Criticism of Rumsfeld took the front seat, and congressional Republicans, with one eye on Bush's tanking popularity and the other on the increasingly ominous midterm elections, began to back away from the president and tentatively joined the calls for an exit strategy -- any strategy really -- from Iraq.

Enter the blogs. On Jan. 24, well before the Illinois legislator Karen Yarbrough stumbled over this state legislature loophole, blogger arbortender of DailyKos had unearthed the rule that another writer dubbed "Jefferson's Revenge". Fellow blogger Kagro X took the baton, and the blogs have been pushing the story and building the momentum ever since, from Vermont's various town- and countywide resolutions to the Illinois bombshell, through California's and now Vermont's state-level proposals. According to Steve Leser, Democratic state legislators in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Nevada and North Carolina are also considering either impeachment or censure proposals.

In any case, the three states already debating impeachment represent nearly 50 million Americans, or roughly 16 percent of the total U.S. population.

As promising as this development is, serious questions remain unanswered. If Americans perceive that voting the Republicans out of the House will lead directly to a vote for impeachment hearings, will they instinctively rally around the president despite his unpopularity specifically and the unpopularity of Republicans in general?

Or, more ominously, will an unpopular president, terrified at the possibility of a crushing Republican defeat in '06 and facing impeachment hearings, launch some sort of "October Surprise?"

October Surprise speculation ranges from my colleague Joshua Holland's prediction that measures will be taken to significantly lower gas prices to Dave Lindorff's claim that:
"a number of journalists told me they worried that Bush, Rove and Cheney, if they thought they were going to lose the House in November and face serious investigations into their crimes and deceits, would do something treasonous, like launching a war against Iran, or perhaps allowing another major terrorist attack against a U.S. target, so that they could then clamp down further on domestic freedom and ramp up jingoistic support among their wavering base."
In the final tally, the state-sponsored impeachment resolutions remain more symbolic than anything -- which may be just as well. By building a public case against Bush for his clear violations of U.S. law, Republicans are left with the albatross of Bush around their necks as they tiptoe into the '06 elections. As pollster Jan van Lohuizen wrote to Republican Chairman Ken Mehlman in a memo: "We are now 'brand W.' Republicans."

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I'm ALL for it! Let's IMPEACH this idiot NOW
Posted by: thinkverybig on Apr 26, 2006 2:10 AM   
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What's taking so long. BUSH makes me sick to my stomach. This man is out of touch with the common folks of America and it's by time he gets IMPEACHED and JAILED for crimes against humanity. Clinton was IMPEACHED for much, much, much, much, much less.

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» Texas is working on it now! Posted by: Conan the Younger
Don't wait for your legislature to Impeach, Do it yourself!
Posted by: Jodin on Apr 26, 2006 2:45 AM   
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Impeach Bush Yourself!
That's right, this is no lousy petition. There's a little known clause of the "Jefferson Manual" which sets forth the various ways in which a president can be impeached. Only the House Judiciary Committee puts together the Articles of Impeachment, but that occurs after someone initiates the process. There are various ways in which the Committee can have the process initiated (most commonly by members of the House passing a resolution). But, one of the other methods put forth in the "Jefferson Manual" is for a citizen to submit a memorial. So, we've researched a successful memorial (memorial of Luke Edward Lawless, from March 30th, 1826 in regards to impeaching Federal Judge James H. Peck), and used it as a template for this memorial. Feel free to download it, print out TWO copies, fill in your relevant information in the blanks (name, State, etc.), and send one copy in.

The other copy hold on to until October 12th when we're having everyone send in a copy.

That's right, we're having everyone send it in on the same date to have the greatest effect. We hope to flood the Judiciary Committee with sacks of mail, and cause a newsworthy event, to further pressure the Committee to act on the memorials.

For more details on the precident, the House Rules on this procedure, and the pdf of the document, visit our website at http://ImpeachForPeace.org and click on the link on the left side of the browser entitiled,

"Don't wait for your legislature to Impeach Bush, Do it yourself, we have the forms."

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George W. Bush: Major League Asshole
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 26, 2006 3:09 AM   
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There's no question about it: We can't sit around holding our breath waiting for the pigs in Washington to do the right thing. Action has to be taken by the states. On December 11, 2004, I phoned in CSPAN's Washington Journal and said that in 2000, when when the electorate stupidly sent this corrupt, hideous, half-witted frat boy to the White House, they pointed the proverbial loaded pistol at their collective head. In 2004, they pulled the trigger.

Pulled the trigger, indeed. But maybe, just maybe the wound will not turn out to be fatal. Maybe the people of the United States, represented by their elected leaders in statehouses all across the country - with the exception of Texas and Mississippi; Never count on them to do the right thing - can get this dispicable, criminal administration removed from power once and for all. Maybe, just maybe, "we the people" (WEEDA PEEPOLE, FOLKS) will be able to take our government (of the people, by the people, for the people) back from these contemptable fools.

Am I just taking on the roll of Oscar Hammersein's "Cock-eyed Optomist"? Well, yeah....But at this point int the game, my optomism is all I have. It's just that, as bad as things have gotten, somewhere deep down inside of me there is a deeply rooted belief that the system - flawed as it is and corrupted as it has become at the hands of those in power - will somehow, miraculously, still work for the benefit of the people.

As cynical as I've become, I still have a little hope.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
tomdegan@frontiernet.net

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» Bush: COMMANDER-IN-CHIMP Posted by: LMNOP
» Why aren't you a writer on here?!?!? Posted by: mmeetoilenoir
» Ditto! Posted by: Steven Wanzell
I'm going with Josh's theory
Posted by: mazel on Apr 26, 2006 4:14 AM   
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I think these rising gas prices are completely manufactured by Bush's buddies in the oil biz. They'll raise the cost of gasoline to $4+ over the summer, then when he pretends to do something about it with his little "investigation," they'll lower them again a dollar or so, making him look like a big hero while continuing to gouge the consumer. It's all a scam.

Not that I would put it past them to allow another terrorist attack on a US target, but I think that would backfire on them since all they've done in the past 6 years has supposedly been for the sake of security. It would tend to make them look pretty useless to the people out there they've mananged to keep in a terrified state since 9/11.

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» total agreemnet Posted by: brasilaron
» They've done it before, Posted by: Steven Wanzell
NYCBoricua
Posted by: peter21142004 on Apr 26, 2006 5:16 AM   
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Does anyone know if New York State's legislature is starting an impeachment movement? I see no reason why it shouldn't have happened already.

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» RE: NYCBoricua Posted by: greentime
» RE: NYCBoricua Posted by: rinpochet
» RE: NYCBoricua Posted by: Daniel Shays
» RE: NYCBoricua Posted by: bassman
» RE: NYCBoricua Posted by: mmeetoilenoir
Can't we speed things up here a bit?
Posted by: greentime on Apr 26, 2006 5:19 AM   
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We all face another 6 hot months of erosion of our freedoms, environment, and economy. Meanwhile they profit on us every step of the way. Can't we get this going sooner?

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Clear the way for War Crime charges.
Posted by: symcokid on Apr 26, 2006 6:12 AM   
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We need to get the Impeachment process underway and follow through with it NOW! What has he done within confines of the Law that he can't be charged with "War Crimes", along with his accomplices?

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Jefferson and Bush
Posted by: eileenflmng on Apr 26, 2006 6:26 AM   
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Candidate Bush claimed his favorite philosopher was Jesus.

Jefferson cut from the Bible the divisive stories about Christ such as the virgin birth, all the miracles including the Resurrection and what he had left was entitled:


THE PHILOSOPHY AND MORALS of JESUS of NAZARETH:

1. Be just: justice comes from virtue which comes from the heart.
2. Treat people the way we want to be treated.
3. Always work for PEACEFUL resolutions, even to the point of returning violence with COMPASSION.
4. Consider valuable the things that have no material value.
5. Do not judge others.
6. Do not bear grudges.
7. Be modest and unpretentious.
8. Give out of true generosity, not because we expect to be repaid.
9. Being true to one's self in more important than being loyal to one's family...those who think they know the most are the most ignorant......

-excerpted Nov 15 and March 1st WAWA BLOG:
http://www.wearewideawake.org



WAWA was born because Bush and the neo-christian zionists have taken my Lord and I cannot find him in their rhetoric or actions.



"If enough Christians followed the gospel, they could bring any state to its knees." -Father Philip Francis Berrigan

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» RE: Jefferson and Bush Posted by: Len Hart
» RE: Jefferson and Bush Posted by: ALANHESTER
» RE: Jefferson and Bush Posted by: tap17x
» RE: Jesus Posted by: SoaringEarth
» RE:tap17x 's comment Posted by: SoaringEarth
a bit sof the ol' Snark
Posted by: brasilaron on Apr 26, 2006 6:41 AM   
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A former and failed oil-man in collusion with current oil companies? What? SCANDALOUS!!!! Scandalous i say!! This is an outrage that anyone should accuse our noble and glorious leader of such vile and contemptible behavior. Our great and compassionate and dearest and most beloved and greatest-fighter-pilot President has only the most intimate and urgent needs of his citizenry occupying the hallowed and venerated chambers of his most-perfectly and vigourous heart. Heart i say!!! Not the mind because the mind can deceive you, but the heart, as the pure and uncorruptible heart of our bestest most reveered dear leader, is resolute and unswayed by the rivers of money brandished forth by the beautiful-and-forever-gushing oil-well drillers. Our most pious and vows-of-poverty brandishing greatest dearest most bestest leader will most vigorously investigate this outrage of price-gouging while most studiously napping during his summer-long vacation.

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Don't trust the Administration's plans!!!!
Posted by: MDLOP8 on Apr 26, 2006 6:51 AM   
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Be warned, America: this is what they're going to do: a nuclear facility on the East Coast (most likely New Jersey) that is far enough from Washington, D.C. to allow for damage but not hurt the nation's capital. It will be done by "terrorists" (actually by a combination of Mossad/European special operations) who will pass for Iranians...and that will be the "door" to open to attack Tehran and their nuclear plants.

"...or perhaps allowing another major terrorist attack against a U.S. target, so that they could then clamp down further on domestic freedom and ramp up jingoistic support among their wavering base."

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why wait so long
Posted by: andrushka on Apr 26, 2006 7:41 AM   
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Why wait so long to go into impeachment proceedures with the Shrub? If I remember correctly it did not take so long for Congress to start the procedure for Nixon's GOP's burglary into the Democrats' headquarters, and for Clinton's playful games with his trainee? Those two presidents did not endanger America and Americans with these silly actions. But this Shrub goes into an illegal war, plus, plus, plus, the failures are countless, and NOTHING is being done to stop him. Disgusting.

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Len Hart
Posted by: Len Hart on Apr 26, 2006 8:08 AM   
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I FULLY support "Jefferson's Revenge". I support almost any measure short of armed insurrection that might get Bush out of the White House. But because Bush has literally waged war on the Constitution, ousting Bush is but the first step. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights MUST be RESTORED.

Article 5 of the Constitution is the blue print for a new national convention which should be charged with addressing those areas of Constitutional laws and protections most grievously harmed by Bush. A new National Convention could undo the harm.

Here are some links that may be of some interest to readers of your excellent article:

The Founding Fathers' Revenge: How the People Can Fire George W. Bush

Impeachment is Not Enough

Support a National Recall of George W. Bush

A National Debate on Bush Recall?

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Surprise
Posted by: dancerkc on Apr 26, 2006 8:11 AM   
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Don't look for the administration to allow the terrorists to commit a terror incident. Too unreliable. You can't be sure of the when and where.

BushCo may actually commit an act of self-terror because merely proclaiming the fiction won't be convincing (ala the "mushroom cloud" statement, etcetera).

Look for the administration to create its own incident, similar to the border incident Germany created to blame Poland in 1939. And look for us to fall for it.

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Len Hart
Posted by: Len Hart on Apr 26, 2006 8:19 AM   
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Nixon, unlike Clinton, actually violated the Constitution. I recommend reading the Articles of Impeachment Against Nixon. Like Bush now, Nixon's big defense was "...if the President does it, it's legal." The term "imperial Presidency was, in fact, first used to describe Nixon, not Bush. Nixon's crimes challenged the Constitution itself as do Bush's. Clinton, however, was investigated for "perjury" three days before it could have occurred. And, even if he had been guilty, he was lying about something that was not even a crime. By contrast, both Bush and Nixon challenged the very sovereignty of the United States as well as the rights of individuals to be secure in their homes and in their persons. If Clinton committed a crime it was of the "jaywalking" variety and hardly impeachable. The articles of impeachment against him utterly lacked substance, consisting of mere GOP puffery, hyperbole, and BS. The articles against Nixon, however, make a case just short of high treason, a capital crime. The articles agaisnt Bush, if drafted based only upon the substantive case that can be made and supported with hard evidence, will most surely include various levels of treason and violations of U.S. Criminal Codes, Section 2441.

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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
Posted by: mite on Apr 26, 2006 9:30 AM   
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WE US CITIZENS LOST CONTROL OF OUR COUNTRY BACK IN 1913 WITH THE "FEDERAL RESERVE ACT", FORMING THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK WHICH IS A PRIVATE CORPORATION OF WORLD BANKS. i.e. World Bank, IMF.
Even if Bush is impeached, only another Skull and Bones or other secret society member will be put in the office of the President backed by these Bankers and other rulers of the world.
We see the ELITE, presidents, still walking around free after using our money from taxes to over throw nations, poison our food and water for profit, murder, crimes against humanity and still our representives do nothing.
We all live in DENIAL in our little worlds of pleasure, lord help us if we were to doubt our leaders and question the REAL plan of a new world order.

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» YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Posted by: LeonDion
Impeachment pipe dream
Posted by: whoever on Apr 26, 2006 9:43 AM   
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I'm not going to say anything new, but all this talk of impeachment is a bad idea. First off, it could never succeed, ultimately--we could never get the Senate votes, even if some election miracle led to the House cooperating. Second, if we impeached Bush, we'd have Cheney, who should but couldn't be impeached for Bush's 'decisions', and if we got him we'd have Hastert--another conservative in a long line. All this kind of proposal does, aside from perhaps energizing conservatives, is waste the time/energy/resources of liberals.

I think a better plan is to urge Democratic Presidential candidates to promise a complete, uninhibited investigation of Bush's war , fiscal, and political conduct, with a promise that any wrongdoing will be prosecuted and any war crimes evidence would be delivered to the Hague, along with George and Dick in handcuffs. That's more likely to be practical, and to frighten Cheney out of his jockstrap.

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» RE: Impeachment pipe dream Posted by: American Reflections
» RE: Impeachment pipe dream Posted by: Gurl84
March!
Posted by: scryberwitch on Apr 26, 2006 10:03 AM   
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Maybe, just maybe, we could force the bastards to impeach. What if we actually marched on the capitol, demanding that our "representatives" in congress impeach the bastard?
Everyone is always whining about how "we'll never succeed." Well, maybe if we actually *did something* other than write letters and sign petitions, we could get something accomplished.

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Proud to be a Vermonter
Posted by: triana1326 on Apr 26, 2006 10:19 AM   
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Guess what Bush? Vermont's coming for your hide...I'd start forming an exit plan to get off of your throne now, 'cause when we get there, it's not going to be pretty. Run and hide, you little coward!!! It's time to trim the Shrub...

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» RE: Proud to be a Vermonter Posted by: saywhat?
» Glad to be The Fuck Out! Posted by: Steven Wanzell
A small Reality Check
Posted by: christenxx on Apr 26, 2006 10:22 AM   
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Not that I'm not all for impeachment - trust me, I can't stand Bushie the Chimp - but what scares me is what would happen afterwards. If he wins, it'll be exactly like some of you have already mentioned: a faux terror attack or war in Iran, more scare tactics, and a groomed sucessor (Jeb? Say it ain't so!!) waiting in the wings to continue the slow dismantling of our Constitution and eventual herding of the American people, sheep-like, into a totalitarian dystopia.
If he loses, what - we get Cheney? Please, he's even worse. So Cheney gets impeached too, so then what? (Er, who's next? Some other right wing nutter asshat, I'm sure). Basically, we're stuck with a long line of twats who'd probably be worse than Bush - until 2008, and then God knows what kind of zombiefied moron the Democrats are going to whip out as their Golden Boy... SIGH!!!
What we really need is some conscious thought, some serious consideration, and a plan. Wouldn't it be great if in 2008 we HONESTLY elected a President who really stood for the majority of people here, someone who realizes that just because you're a Christian doesn't mean you're a hate filled asshole, someone who realizes that we need health care, and better education, and debt counseling, and lower cost college educations, and relief of student loans, and legal abortions, and the decriminalization of marijuana, and closing of all CIA black site torture camps... some President who realizes that America is falling apart from the inside and we need to fix ourselves before we go policing the world!!!
And once we have this smart, liberal, common sense having and decency-filled President, once we get this country back on track, we can send Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rove to the international war crimes tribunal in the Hague, list their crimes and make them answer, and then dance and revel in the streets when they are convicted of crimes against Humanity and sentenced to LIFE IN PRISON!!!!!

I know, I have a very active imagination!

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» RE: A small Reality Check Posted by: writer33
» RE: A small Reality Check Posted by: Gregor
Symbolic?!
Posted by: woodford54 on Apr 26, 2006 10:47 AM   
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So, let me get your point correctly. It's a good thing the state-by-state movements to impeach are symbolic because if we were to REALLY move for impeachment we would risk an "October Surprise?!" So, once again, we are supposed to cower in fear?! I think not! In the immortal words of a famous president, "Bring 'em on!" Right is right and to not act, out of fear, real or perceived, is straight-up cowardice. If he needs to be impeached (WHICH HE DOES) then let's impeach him. You may belong to the "coward crew," but I sure as hell don't! I can't believe you just said that!

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» RE: Symbolic?! Posted by: bettsoff
Crazy Question
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 26, 2006 11:19 AM   
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If Governors, Senators, Representatives and such can be recalled, how about a President? Could a recall, across enough states, be petitioned to have a special election?

Not all of our law is written, some is based upon precedent or Common Law. I'm no lawyer, but maybe one of the AlterNet Staff could interview a few Constitutional Scholars and pose the question. I would be interested in the answer.

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Call me jaded, but...
Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle on Apr 26, 2006 12:29 PM   
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Even if impeachment were to actually occur, it wouldn't save us. What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that America's ongoing decay can't be attributed to just one or two men. This goes very, very far beyond Bush, and all three branches of the government are now held firmly in the vice-like grip of the neo-conservatives. Taking down a few puppets won't change much, when the puppetmasters are still at play.

Impeachment is a start, but if we impeach Bush, an even greater villain of this administration - Cheney - will come into power. This means that we then have to also make a case against him and either impeach him or force him to resign. His successors - virtually all of them - will have to be dealt with in the same way. The resources and the patience of the progressive movement and all opponents of the Bush regime will undoubtedly be exhausted. What we need is a real plan.

The entire administration has to be replaced, and that's all there is to it. Congress and the senate could use a face lift, too. It has to be done, and it has to be done very, very quickly, by any means deemed necessary. We can't sit around at let ourselves be scared off by some so-called 'October Surprise', either. What we need in this country is the same thing the Bush administration has been calling for in countries abroad - a regime change.

Waiting around for the government to cooperate with us in our efforts to impeach one 'President' after another, all of them from the same hideously corrupt administration, is a waste of time. The two thirds of this country that don't think Bush is doing his job need to come together and kick all the bums out, period.

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» RE: Call me jaded, but... Posted by: shanaza
» RE: Call me jaded, but... Posted by: Ansar
» RE: Call me jaded, but... Posted by: Ansar
That's wassup
Posted by: InfinityInc on Apr 26, 2006 12:45 PM   
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I agree with pretty much everyone in here. Not only are we letting our country be run by a bunch of idiots, but on top of that it seems like the majority of our country is composed of these extreme right wing people who care more about what your sexual orientation is, and who you are having sex with than poverty, the horrendous public education system, etc. Further they are in denial about the fact that they have been lied to since 2001. As far as these polls are concerned, I'm glad that that approval rating of the president has "decreased" but no one has ever asked me anything so I remain skeptical... Anyway, my point is, I'm sure that there are as many sound-minded people out there as there are these people who are keeping Bush in power, as evidenced by this website and many others. Therefore, I love the idea of flooding legislation with our letters and trying our best to get the same wide spread recognition as "them". And if this impeachment thing works (which it should have been done a long time ago) then maybe we can take our country back from these money hungry beasts who have no one's interest in mind except for their own; even though that is clearly the opposite of what their job description entails. Nuff said

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Patti
Posted by: pzahn1122@yahoo.com on Apr 26, 2006 4:38 PM   
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To say to IMPEACH George Bush is a slight oversight, we need to impeach his entire CROOKED administration.

He has lied to his EMPLOYERS, (by the way, that's us), he has taken a Dictatorial point of view regarding the question the bungling of the Iraqie invasion, and has deceived the American people.

Enough is enough, he has got to GO.

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US PERSON
Posted by: US Person on Apr 26, 2006 5:14 PM   
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Don't worry about "what will we do after?". By the time Arbustocito is convicted of high crimes and misdeanors it will be a few weeks before the November 2008 election. And not even Darth Cheney would have the balls--or the means-- to stage a coup d'etat. Impeachment will revitalize Congress, and restore the historic balance between the co-equal branches of government envisioned by the Founders. It will mark the end of the forty-year "Imperial Presidency", and preserve our Republic for another 100 years. In sum, impeachment is the little purple pill for what ails US.

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ITMFA
Posted by: chief of okeefe on Apr 26, 2006 6:09 PM   
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ITMFA! Write it everywhere! Sidewalks, whiteboards, websites! Let the rest of America wonder what it means. Tell them that the big wave is coming and they are going to find out!!

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arly
Posted by: arly on Apr 26, 2006 6:16 PM   
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A couple of bloggers have made comments that suggest the bush admin. may ALLOW another terrorist attack to take place,have none of you seen the video called Loose Change - 2nd Edition 911 ?

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We will do it, one step at a time
Posted by: Gregor on Apr 26, 2006 6:24 PM   
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All great movements and momentous moments in history are done by the people for the people. They can tolerate the oppression no more and act. And they do win rights and take away power from the politically disenfranchised. The miners fought long and bravely and slowly received rights they were due. The US government did everything to block them. They even were going to bomb the Miners. Fortunately G'd stepped in and the planet went down before it got to them. You can gather your forces and win. Focus on one target at a time. That is the unshakeable truth. They won't be able to sway you from it. If you worry about the whole picture, nothing will get done.

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Beyond Impeachment
Posted by: Pissed Off Cabbie on Apr 26, 2006 6:39 PM   
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I'm all for impeachment, but I'm curious as to what people would expect to follow. Is it at all possible that we could find ourselves a leader who is outside the loop of corruption?

http://pissedoffcabbie.blogspot.com/

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Bush and his Bosses couldn't care less
Posted by: Don Garb on Apr 26, 2006 7:03 PM   
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You people are so naive, the elections are FIXED! The GOP will sweep the November mid terms just like they have the last 3 elections. The conservative controlled media will suppress the truth, just like they did before, the protests will go unreported, Halliburton will get the contracts, the deficit will soar, and every state will buy Diebold touch screen voter-fraud machines.

You people just don't get it, the election machinery has been hijacked. America is no longer a democracy. You will all be so shocked to discover that you have elected everyone Dick Cheney wanted elected. Aw shucks!

These GOP fascists couldn't care less about what anybody tries to say or do, they've won. They have the power, they have your tax money, they have castrated the media, and they will win again. If you Americans really want your democracy back, then you will have to do what Yogoslavia and Georgia did: everybody take the week off, grinding the country to a halt, go to the White House, pull the criminals out and send them to the Hague to stand trial.

For extra irony, send them on that CIA Gulfstream jet they use for the torture runs. And get Paul Wellstone's aircraft mechanic to do the "routine maintainance".

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» Don't Blow It Again, America! Posted by: Steven Wanzell
Laura
Posted by: Maryanne on Apr 26, 2006 7:14 PM   
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What no one seems to mention is that while Bush's ratings have fallen so dramatically, Laura's reportedly have been found to be 90% (don't know sho did this poll, but it was reported on TV this past week). Laura is being trotted out to speak to groups around the country on her husband's behalf. And so far, she has, according to reports, made a very positive impression.

Something to think about, hmmmm?

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» RE: Laura Posted by: Steven Wanzell
Let’s Impeach the President
Posted by: Washington on Apr 26, 2006 10:02 PM   
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Here, for the first time, the lyrics to Neil Young’s
“Let’s Impeach the President”:

Let's impeach the president for lying
And leading our country into war
Abusing all the power that we gave him
And shipping all our money out the door
He’s the man who hired all the criminals
The White House shadows who hide behind closed doors
And bend the facts to fit with their new stories
Of why we have to send our men to war
Let’s impeach the president for spying
On citizens inside their own homes
Breaking every law in the country
By tapping our computers and telephones
What if Al Qaeda blew up the levees
Would New Orleans have been safer that way
Sheltered by our government’s protection
Or was someone just not home that day?
Let’s impeach the president
For hijacking our religion and using it to get elected
Dividing our country into colors
And still leaving black people neglected
Thank god he’s racking down on steroids
Since he sold his old baseball team
There’s lot of people looking at big trouble
But of course the president is clean
Thank God

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Marijuana Felon
Posted by: bobjbax on Apr 27, 2006 12:53 AM   
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This is a sign of some return of American mental health and the dim beginning of perception. You're fooled again though. We got Nixon, took him down. What did we have? A mouth full of feathers. The band just played on with Ford. Then came Carter. Then came Raygun. Then Bush the First. Then Slick Willie. Now this creep. This is the game. Mouthpieces, pure and simple. It's not them, it's the people who control them, and us, that we want. Invisible. And we love not to see them. Our cherished beliefs our own Achilles heels. Like, "We'll vote out (yeah, right, really vote, huh?) the dastardly Repuglicans and vote (ha! ha!) in the Dimmocrats and all will be well again!" Fooled again. What a game. The American people are enthralled with being the ultimate fools, greatly tragically. The people who own the Shrub, also, completely and utterly, own the Dimmocrat half of the machine too. Period. You can't run for office. I can't run for office. Yeah?! Just try it! Democracy huh? Most of us are incredible, astounding FOOLS. I've been utterly horrified since my ASA/NSA service in the early seventies. Here we are again. We aren't meant to win this. We're too stupid, stupid, stupid to win this. Always have been. Most of you, angry as you now are, just don't get it. You'd punch me in the nose, if you got the chance, for saying what I'm saying right now, right now! About your precious 'democratic political system', that you think you're particpating in. I can only suggest that you all go to the dictionary of your choice and look up two words; organized, and crime. Then put the two words and the two definitions together (you can manage that can't you?) and HAVE A LOOK AROUND!! A real good look around. At every one of those slimesuckers that the Repug/Dimmo machine has fleeced you with, of that that is most precious. EVERY one of them. EVERY one of them. And who put them there, keeps them there, pays them off, controls them, utterly? Not you! That's for damn, damn sure! You better figure it out this time and get these high criminals, all of them; in their hundreds of thousands, yeah!; the objects of your present ire are just scarecrows. Put there by these people to throw off the dogs. It's a three ring circus and we are all just kids with cotton candy and every thing is just peachy. After all, we can just (ha!ha!) vote in the Dimmos, righto? The band plays on. Coriolis, pure and simple. By the way, you all arrogantly missed the best shot we've ever had, not too long ago. His name was Nader.

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Nature's Impeachment
Posted by: antiapathy on Apr 27, 2006 6:55 AM   
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My plan is this: we get everyone who cares about America and doesn't want to see it go down the crapper to send the president a bag of pretzels. Extra salty. And then we send "Buckshot" Cheney loads and loads of bacon double cheeseburgers. Then we just allow nature to "impeach" them for us.

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WE THE PEOPLE
Posted by: chica on Apr 27, 2006 7:36 AM   
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Overwhelmingly we agree that the present adminstration must be removed. Years of protests, petitions, attempts through the political system by legal means has not worked. The system is flawed, broken, abused. Does the government control us, or do we control it?

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From the Wikipedia
Posted by: tango on Apr 27, 2006 8:13 AM   
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Note that Illinois is proposing that Bush be charged with a potentially capital offence per the following Wikipedia entry:

Illinois State Legislature

On April 20,2006, the Illinois state legislature, citing the same rule used by Vermont Democrats (Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of the Rules of the United States House of Representatives), began to consider Resolution 125 (HJR0125), which brought five specific charges against President Bush. The synopsis of the bill reads:

"Urges the General Assembly to submit charges to the U. S. House of Representatives to initiate impeachment proceedings against the President of the United States, George W. Bush, for willfully violating his Oath of Office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and if found guilty urges his removal from office and disqualification to hold any other office in the United States."[3]

Among the charges in HJR0125 is that "President Bush authorized violation of the Torture Convention of the Geneva Conventions, a treaty regarded a supreme law by the United States Constitution". Per US Code Title 18,2441 (the War Crimes Act of 1996): "Whoever [specifically including 'a national of the United States'], whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime [specifically including 'a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protcol to such convention to which the United states is a party'] ... if the victim dies, shall also be subject to the penalty of death."

If the bill passed it would force the U.S. House of Representatives to begin impeachment hearings. On April 25 over a dozen members of the Illinois house co-sponsored the bill, and referred it to the Rules Committee.

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Did anyone pick up on the "allow"
Posted by: libladyco on Apr 27, 2006 10:18 AM   
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Did anyone pick up on the comment regarding "October Surprise" about "allowing another terrorists attack"? When is the mainstream, liberal or any press going to start writing about what truly happened on 9/11? Everyone, go Google St911.org, and if anyone can prove what they see isn't real, let me know, cause, as far as I am concerned, those buildings, all three of them, were brought down by demolition charges planted throughout them. As I said, if you can prove that it isn't so, please let me know.

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November!
Posted by: ajzaprmcf on Apr 27, 2006 12:03 PM   
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I think that everyone needs to focus on getting a Democratic majority in the House this November. If you are in a district with a Republican Congressman work your ass off to get him/her out of there. That is the only way we'll ever get any sort of true investigation into this Administration. Not to mention, unless I'm completely off base here, but if we could get rid of Bush and Cheney (long shot of all long shots, i know) third in line is the Speaker of the House, which would come from the majority party.

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Arguments Against Impeachment...
Posted by: Jodin on Apr 28, 2006 2:55 PM   
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Arguments Against Impeachment...
•But won't we then get President Cheney??
Any impeachment process would include Cheney, and probably Rumsfeld and Rice. It would also disgrace the entire Bush Administration.

•We should wait until after Democrats take office in the November elections, or else we'll seem too 'extreme.'
Shedding light on Bush's crimes and the Republican party's complicity in those crimes is the best way to get democrats elected. Demanding impeachment is one effective way of doing that. Secondly, demanding that crimes be investigated IS NOT extreme.
Further, waiting until November will leave us complicit in any further crimes Bush commits. The Union of Concerned Scientists has estimated that the death toll from a "tactical" nuclear weapon of the kind Bush is contemplating using in Iran would be at minimum 3 million men, women, and children. The path of death would stretch across country boundaries into India.
Also, there's no guarantee Democrats will take office in November.

•It'll never happen.
Today's impossibility is tomorrow's reality. All we need is for a few Republican Congress members to realize that tying their political future to Bush reduces their chances of getting elected. Remember, one way or another, Bush is gone by 2008 — but members of Congress may retain their offices beyond that date. Bush's poll numbers are extremely low, and most Americans support impeachment. This means that if we make the pressure unbearable for Republican members of Congress, they'll turn on him to keep their own seats (like they did with Nixon).
Also, making sure you can look back and be proud of your opposition to this tyranny is worth its weight in gold.

•It hurts the democracy to go through a presidential impeachment.
Holding government officials accountable for their actions strengthens our democracy. Letting lawlessness stand weakens it.

•If we don't support our president, we aid the terrorists.
We support terrorism when we fail to deal with its root causes (poverty, lack of education, support of dictatorships, etc.). We also support it by enabling a president who creates breeding grounds for terrorists — like Iraq has now become, thanks to our invasion and occupation. Middle Eastern countries upset with the oppressive international policies of the past and current administration might think better of the U.S. if we appeared to learn from our mistakes by impeaching a president who has been so instrumental in that oppression.

You can do your part, don’t wait for your representatives to act. You can have the same legal impact as your state passing a resolution to impeach. Don’t wait for your representatives at the national OR state wide level. Do it YOURSELF. How? We’ve found a loop hole in the legal process, it allows you to DIRECTLY initiate the impeachment process by sending in a document found here:

http://impeachforpeace.org/ImpeachNow.html

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Preaching to the choir
Posted by: julian001 on Apr 28, 2006 4:52 PM   
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Although it is comforting to read the comments and hear the voices of the people (finally !!!), it still doesn't change the fact that it is a pre-requisite to have an IQ before one even seeks an alternative news scource. It seems to me most americans are comfortable sucking on the proverbial teet that is the mainstream media. It is apparent that we have all realized that we are being victimized by our government, now what about that other 51% of misinformed americans who insult themselves and my intelligence everyday by blindly offering thier support to George W. We all must understand that all George has to do is shout out how much he opposes "gay marraige" and all the idiots complaining about gas prices will jump right back over the line in the name of "christianity". Will they ever learn that it is not thier job to judge. Remember thou shalt not kill! Or is that commandment only valid when it suits thier purposes? The mental corruption runs deep in these people, it must be so ingrained...so socialized that they can deny obvious truths.
I'm going to conclude that I firmly believe that this present administration knew about the attacks on our country. Call me a conspiracy theorist all ya' want but it doesn't change the fact that a generation fresh from the vietnam era has inhereted thier parents' scent for political and economic horse shit. When the rich need to unite the people, they need to get us real scared, and real angry--preferably both. We wouldn't have tolerated another vietnam under any other pretense. Well, here we are again, the children of the poor being blown to smithereens to make sure that the children of the rich get to go to Ivy league schools and maintain our bitchin' infrastructure of social Darwinism. I'd pay money to watch the little Bush bitches go through basic training and end up on the front lines of this war. Paris Hilton too! A reality show that I'd actually watch, you can call it "The Military Life"! Mr. Spelling get to work!
BOTTON LINE: The man needs to be IMPEACHED. If you don't hear from me again, the secret police probably got me.

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» RE: Preaching to the choir Posted by: maxloen
Co-Conspiritors
Posted by: rasul55 on Apr 29, 2006 9:25 AM   
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The inclusion of Chaney in any call for impeachment is crucial, given the role he has played in the administration's policies. Whoever follows in the line of succession, the policies of this administration will have been sufficiently discredited to give us at least a chance at a more humane foriegn policy and a domestic policy more concerned with the preservation of civil liberties.

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Impeaching Bush means impeaching them all!
Posted by: nbrown on Apr 29, 2006 4:45 PM   
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Bush is a mass-murderer.

However, let's remember that the Democrats have supported Bush's policies the entire way.

See the Iraq War Timeline. This chronology of events is not solely the work of President Bush! The Dems voted FOR the war, and they continue voting for the occupation!

Furthermore they have voted FOR the Department of Homeland Security, FOR the PATRIOT Act (twice!), FOR No Child Left Behind, FOR insane military budgets, and so on.

Throw them all out! It's good cop/bad cop, and we're getting used.

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Can you spell ELECTION
Posted by: feller on Apr 29, 2006 6:07 PM   
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Like him or not, he was elected twice. In that situation, impeachment short of a clear crime is inappropriate. we knew by 11/04 that the Wmd info was incorrect. Bush was re-elected under the rules the country has adopted. I didn't vote for him(mostly because he was negligent in not preventing 9/11 which in turn led to IRAQ and the misnamed "terror" war.)

Don't like Bush? Give money to someone who can beat the GOP in 08, or to a Democrat who won't repeat most of Bush's policies. (That might be hard, I know). We do not have a parliamentary system. Just because the GOP misused impeachment against Clinton is no reason to continue this abuse of Congressional power.

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A coup is coming
Posted by: Friedbrownball on Apr 29, 2006 7:29 PM   
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I have no doubt that Bush's belief in his messianic mission, his utter contempt for the Constitution and the law, and his lack of concern about the future in general (what future if Jesus is coming tomorrow!), all mean that if the opportunity presents itself, the Constitution will be "suspended", including elections if necessary. He believes everything he does is both ordained by God and legal by fiat - the only issue for him, Cheney, and Rove is how to get away with it. I think the journalists are right - terrorist attacks have been a godsend to these treasonous creeps, and they would love to see another one, or at least a real danger of one - and how can we have an election and change horses in the middle of war (remember that one from the last "elections") (never mind that Lincoln held elections during the Civil War). Do not forget - they gained power through election fraud and a long-term coup that started with Clinton's election and their anger at that - which led to the bogus Whitewater investigation dovertailing into the Lewinsky mess, the impeachment, the Florida fiasco, and the bizarre polling date and obvious Ohio fraud in 2004. They do not believe they will even lose power, hence the destruction of political minority rights in Congress, and the abolition of any Democratic Party structure in DC (closed Republican congressional meetings where real decisions are made, and the banning of Democratic lobbyists from DC lobbying firms). I have always believed that if they faced a real danger of losing even with massive fraud, they will take extraordinary actions to remain in power - that time is now. The final chapter of the coup is about to happen.

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» RE: A coup is coming Posted by: Steven Wanzell
» RE: A coup is coming Posted by: aussidawg
creativity
Posted by: rsaxto on Apr 30, 2006 2:07 AM   
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Creativity is the engine of change for the better and lots of folks are now getting creative about getting the criminal dunces out of office. It took a lot of action to get Nixon out of office but it finally worked. As our actions feed upon each other they will create the critical mass that will drive the Cheney/Bush/Rove/Rumsfeld/etc. gang into resignation/impeachment or whatever is necessary for their removal from power so that the peoples and critters of the world will be able to survive.

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Get those dopes out of there now
Posted by: packofwolves on Apr 30, 2006 6:12 PM   
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I can't believe we ever elected this idiot once let alone twice. Do I believe in a consipiracy in both elections that put and then kept this idiot in office? Yes. I can't believe the majority of our country men/women could vote for this creep once, certainly not twice. Do I think he'll do anything to keep the presidency? Yes. He probably would launch war to stay in power, as long as his family doesn't pay the price the rest of our country's families do. We need to get rid of this moron now before he completely destroys our country, and perhaps even the world. I have never been so embarrassed for our country and our president, gawd he's such an ***///!!!~~~ IMPEACH BUSH IMPEACH BUSH IMPEACH BUSH IMPEACH BUSH
What can possibly be taking so long to get rid of this babbling idiot and how many more crimes does he have to commit before he is forced to face the music? What kind of message are we sending to our young people? To think our country tried to impeach Clinton after a little sex...shouldn't we impeach the man that started war, killed and is killing our sons and daughters, tortured and spied on people, and gave and continues to give our hard earned money to his rich buddies? Look at how many people don't have medical insurance - look at the price of houses in our country - look who's getting all the contracts in Iraq - and the CEOs from the oil companies are living it up with their $4 million retirement packages - remember, those folks are the Bushies "base." WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US? When did we become so passive and so stupid to allow a presidency to walk all over us while we sit there and practically beg them to tak emore from us...wake up America PLEASE before it's too late. IMPEACH BUSH

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NY Lej
Posted by: patsy6 on May 10, 2006 9:36 AM   
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Actually, the Democrats are in the majority in the NY Legislature. The Senate is Republican.

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