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Discrimination: The Root of the Black Job Crisis

By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, Pacific News Service. Posted April 24, 2006.


Nearly forty percent of young black males are unemployed. Not by choice; because employers refuse to hire them.

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The battle continues to rage between economists, politicians, immigrants' rights activists, and black anti-immigration activists over whether illegal immigrants are the major cause of double-digit joblessness among poor, unskilled young black males.

The battle lines are so tight that black anti-immigration activists have planned a march for jobs for American-born blacks on April 28 in Los Angeles. This is a direct counter to the planned mass action on May 1st by immigrants' rights groups.

According to Labor Department reports, nearly forty percent of young black males are unemployed. Despite the Bush administration's boast that its tax cut and economic policies has resulted in the creation of more than 100,000 new jobs, black unemployment still remains the highest of any group in America. Black male unemployment for the past decade has been nearly double that of white males.

But several years before the immigration combatants squared off, then-University of Wisconsin graduate researcher Devah Pager pointed the finger in another direction -- a direction that makes most employers squirm. That's the persistent and deep racial discrimination in the workplace. Pager found that black men without a criminal record are less likely to find a job than white men with criminal records

Pager's finger-point at discrimination as the main reason for the racial hiring disparity set off a howl of protest from employers, trade groups, and even a Nobel Prize winner. They lambasted her for faulty research. They said her sample was much too small, and the questions too vague. They pointed to the ocean of state and federal laws that ban racial discrimination.

But in 2005, Pager, now a sociologist at Princeton, duplicated her study. She surveyed nearly 1,500 private employers in New York City. She used teams of black and white testers, standardized resumes, and she followed up their visits with telephone interviews with employers. These are the standard methods researchers use to test racial discrimination.

The results were exactly the same as in her earlier study. Black men with no criminal records were no more likely to find work than white men with criminal records. That's true despite the fact that New York has some of the nation's toughest laws against job discrimination.

Dumping the blame for the chronic job crisis of young, poor black men on illegal immigration stokes the hysteria of immigration reform opponents, but it also lets employers off the hook for discrimination. And it's easy to see how that could happen. The mountain of federal and state anti discrimination laws, affirmative action programs, and successful employment discrimination lawsuits gives the public impression that job discrimination is a relic of a shameful, and bigoted racial past.

But that isn't the case, and Pager's study is hardly isolated proof of that. Countless research studies, the Urban League's annual State of Black America report, a 2005 Human Rights Watch report, and the numerous EEOC practice discrimination complaints over the past decade reveal that employers have devised endless dodges to evade anti-discrimination laws. That includes rejecting applicants by their names, areas of the city they live in, and claims of mistaken advertising (that the jobs advertised were filled).

In a comprehensive seven-month university study of the hiring practices of hundreds of Chicago-area employers (a few years before Pager's graduate study), many top company officials said they would not hire blacks. When asked to assess the work ethic of white, black and Latino employees by race, nearly forty percent of the employers ranked blacks dead last.

The employers routinely described blacks as "unskilled," "uneducated," "illiterate." "dishonest," "lacked initiative," "unmotivated," "involved with gangs and drugs," "did not understand work," "unstable," "lacked charm," "had no family values," and were "poor role models."

The consensus among these employers was that blacks brought their alleged pathologies to the work place, and were to be avoided at all costs. The researchers found that black business owners shared many of the same negative attitudes.

Other surveys have found that a substantial number of non-white business owners also refuse to hire blacks. Their bias effectively closed out another area of employment to thousands of blacks, solely based on their color.

This only tells part of the sorry job picture for many poor blacks. The Congressional Black Caucus reports that at least half of all unemployed black workers have been out of work for nearly a year or more. Many more have given up looking for work. The Census does not count them among the unemployed.

The dreary job picture for the unskilled and marginally skilled urban poor, especially the black poor, is compounded by the racially skewed attitudes of small and large employers. Even if there was not a single illegal immigrant in America, that attitude insures that black job seekers would still be just as poor and unemployed.

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Earl Ofari Hutchinson is the author of The Crisis in Black and Black (Middle Passage Press). The Hutchinson Report Blog is now online at Earl Ofari Hutchinson.com.

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The issue is cultural...
Posted by: froggy on Apr 24, 2006 3:26 PM   
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The hiring practices of companies is not that irrational, there is a high corelation between being "black" and having a particular attitude (i..e. the attributes sited by companies).
It is very telling that even black owned companies have the same attitudes as white owned companies, this should indicate that the heart of the problem is with the culture that is promoted in black communities and not with the
hiring practices of companies. That is the say the issue is cultural and not racial, it just so happens that in this case a particular culture is highly corelated with a particular "race". This has the unfortunately side effect of some individuals being excluded for positions they should've got.
From the business's point of view although its perfectly rational so long as the corelation remains true.

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» RE: The issue is cultural... Posted by: lawyerlee
Rebellious backlash?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 24, 2006 8:07 PM   
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I have no pony in this race, other than my belief anybody may do a job equal to anyone else, regardless of race. I'd throw in the observation that many employers had affirmative stuffed down their throats, and may be exercising one of the definitively American traits: that of being rebellious toward government meddling in day-to-day lives and businesses of her citizenry.

Then again, as stated above, there is the cultural inclination to hire (and vote for) people who "look a lot like us", because we can more easily envision ourselves succeeding in their positions. I think that's the social science-y hocus-pocus idea of "projecting" that I picked up from freshman college cultural anthropology, but it has always struck me as making sense (and was one of the few potentially useful things in the social "sciences" that my tuition dollars paid for).

In the end, I consider it wise to go with the old adage: Be hesitant to attribute to malice that which ignorance can account for.

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» Naaah, it's racism. Posted by: medstudgeek
» Hmm, clarification. Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Naaah, it's racism. Posted by: froggy
» RE: Naaah, it's racism. Posted by: ezilla
» RE: ebellious backlash? Posted by: Asses of Evil
» RE: ebellious backlash? Posted by: ezilla
Anecdotal, But Telling
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 24, 2006 9:04 PM   
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Since I'm not a social scientist all I have to go on above public information is my personal experience, so cut me a little latitude. I really do not see it.

I live in a metro area that has a roughly 50-50 split between white and black people, although the recent influx of hispanic people is changing the numbers and have lived here for most of my life. I also work in a public, professional setting and come in contact with large numbers of people from every walk of life every day. I'm young enough not to be old, but have been around long enough to have some of the wisdom that comes with age and experience. I also grew up in this community, going to integrated schools with a close to 50-50% racial balance. Enough for background.

From the people I grew up with, work with, live by, go to church with, serve as patients and know as friends the numbers just don't add up. What I see and have seen is that education, more than any other single factor, is the determining factor in employability...period. No other factor comes even close.

The people who went to school, applied themselves and stuck it out have been rewarded with a place in life far better than that of their parents. Those who partied, played around at school, dropped out or got sidetracked largely did not. That sounds like the cornerstone of the American Dream. A better opportunity of life for your kids provided that they apply themselves.

Both among those I grew up with and those I know as adults who used their educational opportunity have prospered regardless of race, sex or ethnicity. Those who played around and let life pass them by have found an increasingly hard path in life, only waking up after getting in a hole they cannot find their way out of. Some find their way later than others, but very few. The Economic Darwinism of the society we live in now is a very binary thing. You are either in or out. The middle class is an endangered species.

What it comes down to is this: stay in school, get as much education as your talents and abilities can carry you, work hard and keep your eyes on the prize of a good career. That formula works for kids of any race, either sex, whatever background. Step outside of it and you had better have a nice trust fund or a business to inherit. Again, it cuts across all lines.

Ask any experienced teacher off the record and they can predict their kids future with a high level of accuracy. The fact that many successful kids come from bad or marginal schools and/or from bad home environments tells us that the student that is the determining factor. The kids that stay out of trouble and apply themselves get ahead.

Our society and media glamorizes they player, the athlete, the artist, etc and makes the diligent look like uptight & narrow chumps. Nobody has made a serious effort to show these kids that their only shot lies in the free public education that they are offered and the library down the street. Nobody makes anyone cut class, fail to study, fail to complete class assignments, join a gang, hang out on the street, etc. It's a dead end--any part of it or all of it.

There are too many dedicated teachers, librarians and others that are willing to go above and beyond for any kid to have an excuse. If the kid is willing to CLAIM THEIR EDUCATION they will find more help than they could ever imagine.

Someone needs to tell America's kids that an education is not a gift to be given, but an accomplishment to be earned. The only thing society gives you is a shot at it. What you learn is what you earn. Spend a little less time on the phone or the street corner and a little more time in the library. Work on your homework as hard as you did perfecting your baseline jumper. Memorize your material with as much diligence as with the latest lyric. It will pay off.

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» RE: Anecdotal, But Telling Posted by: justasking
» RE: You're buying into it, I think Posted by: anonymous black writer
» RE: Anecdotal, But Telling Posted by: ALANHESTER
Nothing changes if nothing changes.
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 24, 2006 9:09 PM   
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Dr. Earl,

It’s been called “An American Dilemma” since the Myrdals’ study by that name published in 1944. Some things have changed but not a lot. America is more comfortable with its familiar failings than with making change and that can be seen in the current impotence of the Civil Rights Movement.

The latest feature is the shift from discrimination primarily understood as a black-white problem now to a black-brown problem. But the dangerous feature is the one the studies of the American class system have recently revealed. Social change is history. The class you are born to is the class you are most likely to perpetuate. It is the status rigidity, hidden behind all the African-American super sports and entertainment heroes, that characterizes our ordinary days.

During my years of paying attention, education was lauded as the lubricant for our meritocracy. It never really had all that much grease. It was more like the status that sports and entertainment stars are granted, but that fault was hidden under the “anyone can become President” mythology. (Yeah, if your last name is Bush or Roosevelt, or Kennedy, or Rockefeller or Taft, or…and on and on).

Americans love celebrities, because we can fantasize that such an opportunity is available to us. Now that work has become a celebrity (and this is not something new but has been coming on for a long, long time), celebrity is losing some of its charm, but not much yet.

The market rewards and the market punishes. Yes, we can deliberate about influences upon the market. But “nothing changes if nothing changes.” Until we do things differently, it will be the same old problems ad infinitum—no matter what you or I write. It’s how we act that matters.

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Enemy Within Part 1
Posted by: dlf on Apr 25, 2006 2:24 AM   
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I clearly recall my first encounter with a white person being around the age of four. I was walking with my mother and brother, when a white man approached us. Instinctively I dropped my head to avoid eye contact. I recall my mother squeezing my hand, hard, and saying, “Never bow your head to a white person.” I looked up at her and said, “But Momma he’s staring at us.” She smiled, and told me, “You need to stare back at him, and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Forty-four years from that encounter, Vincente Fox, President of Mexico states, “ Mexican are willing to do work not even Blacks want to do,” and you get a hallelujah chorus of Blacks in agreement. Childhood recollections of Blacks in the north slaving in steel mills and at auto plants, while our counterparts in the south broke their backs in fields and textile mills flood my memory, along with the shame of being Black. During that time we were inundated with representations of us being shiftless and lazy. We battled those negative stereotypes, only to have them reappear in a fifty-year span of time. Not only do we have the demons that created these nullifying archetypes, but a chorus of voices even from within joining in agreement.

What Blacks have created for ourselves, in our abhorrence to keeping our history close to us, is a parallel universe that allows contrived history to become real history. In this world, forgotten are articles such as Mark Krikorian’s, in the May 6, 2002 edition of the National Review, which shows Eleanor Holmes Norton, former chair of the EEOC filed a 1980 lawsuit to prevent a Chicago manufacturing firm from the crowding out of Blacks, by immigrants. That’s right, twenty-five years ago a Black leader saw the inherent danger, of such policies. But today a growing number of us stand ready to accept America’s failure, to ameliorate a system of exclusion as our opposition to improve our condition. This ploy is as old as slavery. From this parallel universe are born such as Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, and a host of others. These people feel their achievement through Affirmative Action or perseverance was possible because they applied themselves. And they want us to forget the recorded history of racism as policy. They’ve forgotten the sweeping Immigration Act of 1924 was brought on by the case of Bhagat Singh Thind an Indian national, who tried to gain entry into America as a “white” man. Or that the House Judiciary Committee hired eugenicist Dr. Harry Laughlin, so Congress was clear on who was, or wasn’t white.

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Enemy Within Part 2
Posted by: dlf on Apr 25, 2006 2:25 AM   
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Remedying American history has no valuation for them. An act of birth placed them in a leper colony, their drive cured them. All of us should drink the prescribed denial, in order to achieve. By according the beneficiaries of such social engineering the right to mitigate themselves, this group becomes the most toxic of all.

Even those in denial of their Blackness, understand that anyone else needs to assuage any guilt they could feel about using Blacks, as a bridge they cross to advance their position. But, the idea that no toll should be paid, to get from one side to the other, is unacceptable. Whites have set a bar for superiority around education; the fact blacks were legally barred from educating ourselves during slavery, then accorded inferior institutions afterward is of no consequence. Blacks attending inadequately funded inner-city schools are presumed to be able to parallel those students whose schools offer honors and college courses. The nation has lost patience with emancipated Blacks, witness the constant attacks on Affirmative Action. They revisited the issue in less then ten years with the Bakke v. California Board of Regents case. This case decided by the Supreme Court in 1978 implied that Affirmative Action (a reparation) could be viewed as reverse discrimination. David Roediger, in his new book, “Working Towards Whiteness” makes a great case for Affirmative Action as a means of repairing the construct of race by including racism as a part of US immigration and labor policy. A PhD from Northwestern University he chairs the History Dept. of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Add to that Krikorian’s premise that, “Black leadership has known for more than 20 years that affirmative action’s black-centered rationale—as compensation for slavery and Jim Crow—is undermined by mass immigration.” You begin to see that Blacks suffer from historical Alzheimer’s disease. Krikorian further contends “Yet they’ve kept supporting high levels of immigration anyway, in order to maintain a people-of-color coalition with the Hispanic Caucus and groups like the National Council of La Raza.” This to me indicates a failure in leadership to review what works for Blacks, and what works against us. It also infers that Blacks are no closer to understanding the importance of keeping our history close at the beginning of the 21st century, than we were the century before.

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What Myrdal found
Posted by: daw13 on Apr 25, 2006 6:47 AM   
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One of the commentors above cited Gunnar Myrdal's study, An American Dilemma as relevant to this discussion. This was one of the most comprehensive, best funded, most professionally excecuted studies in the history of sociology. What it found was that following emancipation, there was no basis for predicting black economic failure based on culture. To the contrary: against all expectations, given white acceptance, Blacks were likely to achieve upward mobility in US society as quickly as European immigrants had done. But the study also discovered strongly entrenched White resistance to Black upward mobility.

Shift to the last decade, and the studies of noted Harvard sociologist, William Julius Wilson. He affirmed Myrdal's findings. Black culture does not explain Black unemployment. Society's failure to offer necessary supports to a population brutalized by a long period of systematic discrimination, does. Add a growing body of fine scholarship by the Critical Race theorists led by Derrick Bell, and the suspicion that institutionalized racism has actually grown stronger as it has also become invisibilized, does not seem at all farfetched.

White supremacy has long been a method used by powerful interests to offer getting-poorer white people an option other than revolution for addressing their economic concerns. Nothing has changed.

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I want to weigh in here
Posted by: LPB on Apr 25, 2006 7:11 AM   
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I want to address the image of black people which is being so strongly promoted by the rap music industry. I know this doesn't represent the lifestyle or attitude of all black people, but it is so prevelant in our society that it's hard to ignore. The lyrics of many rap songs glorify promiscuity in a big way. Some of them glorify violence, against women, against authority, against society in general, and these rappers revel in the attitudes they are promoting. The videos feature women wearing clothes that are best suited to the world's oldest profession and behaving in demeaning ways, presenting themselves as objects to be used to gratify the men who treat them like inferior beings. The language of rap music refuses to be grammatically correct or to pronounce the words of our language correctly. This, the language issue, is something that occurs outside the area of music as well; some of our most popular black actors and comedians distinguish themselves by mispronouncing common words. Many young black people look up to these celebrities, people who have made millions of dollars doing what they do, as role models. They adopt the language and behaviors they see and hear reflected in these popular cultural avenues. Many employers are turned off by these types of behaviors. Customers do not want to deal with someone who can't speak the language properly. I'm sorry, I believe in free speech and free expression, but we live in a society where people are judged by their outward appearance and behavior. Someone who cannot put together a grammatically correct sentence is not going to be perceived as a compentent, professional person. They're just not. Of course, I'm not asserting that this is the root of the problem; obviously, it's not. But I believe it's an aggravating factor. In response to protests against the graphic sex and violence inherent in a lot of rap music, the rappers have replied, 'This is how we live, this is our reality.' Who wants to hire that reality? I'm sorry, but I wouldn't want to hire someone who presented himself or herself to me with the attitutde that is portrayed in this aspect of our culture. I was raised to believe that when you seek a job, you dress the part, your present yourself in a professional manner, you educate yourself so you have the skills necessary to perform the job you are trying to get, then you have a chance at the job. While many black people do just that, too many of our young black people are being presented with the message that they shouldn't have to do that. 'That's not who we are and we shouldn't have to change who we are to get hired. People shold respect us just the way we are; we shouldn't have to change.' This attitude hurts all black people who are trying to get a job, because let's face it; we all have to present who we are in a way that makes someone want to hire us. I recognize that this is only a small aspect of this situation, but I think it's a valid point. The image of our black population, and maybe even the self image, is being hurt by this popular rap culture. That being said, I recognize the veracity of this article and the fact that there are people who are prejudiced regardless of a person's image or professionalism, and that the type of racism described in the article is a subtle and prevalent thing. I think rap culture contributes to perpetuating this type of prejudice, and that black rappers who make millions from it are selling out other members of their race for their own financial gain.

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» RE: I want to weigh in here Posted by: anonymous black writer
Young Black Men = Poor White Women
Posted by: sln70 on Apr 25, 2006 12:08 PM   
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I see a definite parallel between gang culture and the culture of prostitution.
Both groups are claiming power in a sub-culture where they have traditionally been refused access to power in mainstream society.
In this way, there is some similarity between poor, urban young women and black, urban young men.
It is due to this similarity that I see less a case for racism in the roginal article and more an argument that the problem rests with classism.

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Is it racism or fear of the unknown?
Posted by: kathat on Apr 25, 2006 7:20 PM   
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To a lot of people in this country, the only exposure they have is the gangsta crap that is perpetrated by MTV, television and movies.
I think there are a lot of people who therefore will not hire black men because they are unsure of who they are and what they stand for.
It's like it used to be if a man had long hair- he simply could not find work until he cut it.
Maybe I am being naive, but I think there are a lot of employers who might think twice about this if it was more in the forefront and more education about it.
Why don't we have educational commercials and that kind of stuff on racism?? I mean it- you never see anything on tv that addresses racism anymore....it's like nobody wants to talk about it anymore. What happened??
There are generations of racists that grew up since civil rights and I don't see that the children get any alternative view of what being black is or what eing racist is anymore, to contrast how they were raised.
The movie 'Crash' is the first thing I have seen in years that addresses the undercurrent of racism that still exisits in this country...even by well meaning people of both all colors.

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Just another excuse.
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Apr 26, 2006 6:21 PM   
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This lame excuse will eventually take its place with others which all point at the "other guy" being the problem. When blacks start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions then they will truly be free and respected by others. Until then, the only people they are deluding are themselves. Another generation of young blacks wasting their lives posturing in a bling dominated lifestyle would be a tragedy.

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I won't hire a "rapper" or gangsta-looking kid of any color
Posted by: janvdb on Apr 26, 2006 9:53 PM   
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It's not racism at all. It's about an applicant showing some respect for work by dressing, acting and talking like a worker when he applies for a job -- not like a pimp.

It's not my problem that a lot of the kids who talk and act like little pimps happen to be black. Some of them are white, too. Or, brown. Whatever.

If a kid doesn't even have the respect for his employer it takes to remove the bling, yank his pants up over his underwear and present himself in a decent manner during the initial interview -- he's not going to be a good worker.

I just don't want to have to supervise (and fire) a guy with a bad attitude. It's a pain.

And I don't care if the kid looking for a job is white, brown or black -- if they look "gangsta" there is no way I'd hire them to clean a toilet.

Just the way it is, boys.

It's my job to fill and I don't have to hire hard-to-supervise, bad-mouthing, bling-hung, drag-butt brats.

I've had guys really get into my face, refuse to shut up, try to pick me up, make personal remarks, get upset when I "reject their advances," etc. Black men, white men, any color of men. Unskilled men hired to paint, do yardwork, do demolition, do clean-up and such can be very hard to supervise. I just won't hire a guy who looks "mouthy."

Getting into a hassle with a laborer and firing him is exhausting and a waste of my time and energy. I have every right to arrange things to avoid that as much as possible.

I hired some boys to paint a while back. They were decent-looking when they came in, they worked hard and I liked them. I worked them for over a month. Imagine my surprise when I saw them "off the job" all dressed up like little gang-bangers!!

This illustrates my point perfectly. Boys can dress however they want, talk however they want, take whatever kind of obnoxious woman-hating stance they want -- OFF THE JOB.

But if you look like that when you come in to ask for a job, well, you don't deserve a job. Because it is a sign of total disrespect for your boss. Who shouldn't hire you.

If some of these urban brats could figure that out, well, I think they would be getting jobs.

Clean up, talk correctly, show some respect for the act of working, show some respect for the person who is going to have to supervise you (even if she is a woman) and you will get hired.

If you can't do that, don't cry "racism." It's not racism -- it's discrimination against bad workers. Who bloody well deserve every bit of it.

Did these research programs study how "gangsta" behavior, dress and talk affects a person's ability to get hired? Were their white applicants dressed like workers and their black applicants dressed like pimps? Or talking like pimps? We need a lot more information on how the individuals talked, how they presented themselves. If the researchers controlled for all that and made sure that the black applicants presented themselves in a respectful, clean-cut, well-spoken, decent, non-rapper manner but STILL couldn't get hired, well, that would be interesting.

Unfortunately, we are not provided with that information.

Jan VanDenBerg

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Perceptions of Black Males will never change time to separate
Posted by: neosoul on Apr 26, 2006 11:14 PM   
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That's why I think it is time to argue for racial segregation like Ernie Chambers is doing in Nebraska. Blacks don't have to ask whites for acceptance and whites don't have to hire us.

It is time we as black people build our own infrasturctures so we can hire and take care of our own. We are a nation separate from this society and it is time we took power on our own terms. The Intergrationalists ( of all races ) had 40 years to convince this country to include us in their social contract and people like me have shut up and trusted them to "do the right thing" King's dream is DOA and it's time we moved on.

White America is bad for a Black Male's mental health and In a bad marriage you divorce the S.O.B. It would not matter If every Black Male came in with perfect diction, clothing etc.. These people have a perpcetion of Black Males that will never change. We need to develop another great mirgration to a land in this country and develop a majority black state where we can hire one another and end this experiment of being "Americans".

DEALING WITH WHITE AMERICA IS BAD FOR A BLACK MALE'S MENTAL AND PHYSCIAL HEALTH.

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Professor
Posted by: Nadia Sindi on Apr 27, 2006 12:44 PM   
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I am an Arab American. Nowadays called "Sand N"

I've lived in Eugene, Oregon since 1980. I attended the University of Oregon and graduated in 1987 with a Mater degree.

I've been trying to get a job with the City of Eugene, Lane County, the University, and all over the state of Oregon, and the NW, California etc....

I've been turned down so many times. I've gone the extra miles to speak to the elected officials about me not being able to get a job. I've contacted the Diversity Coordinators in both the city and the county. In 2003, the previous Diversity Coordinator Marilyn Maze had helped me out to find and apply for a job, that was secured & assured to get it. But after I've submitted my resume and application. I was denied again! Ms. Maze wouldn't talk to me any more.. Greg Rikhoff the city Human Rights coordinator, and the rest of the Human Rights resources are making sure I will not have a job any place no matter how hard I tried..

Last Fall I applied for a teaching job in Corvallis at OSU. After I was hired. Dr.Susan Shaw: the chair of the Women Studies fired me without any reasonable reason. I've tried with different department and diversity, I was faced by the silent treatment, because I'm blacklisted. No one will honor my request or respond to my application..

All this because I had blew the whistle on some of our elected officials and the EPD.

www.nadiasindi.blogspot.com

thanks.

nadia sindi

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Professor
Posted by: Nadia Sindi on Apr 27, 2006 12:46 PM   
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I am an Arab American. Nowadays called "Sand N"

I've lived in Eugene, Oregon since 1980. I attended the University of Oregon and graduated with a Mater degree.

I've been trying to get a job with the City of Eugene, Lane County, the University, and all over the state of Oregon, and the NW, California etc....

I've been turned down so many times. I've gone the extra miles to speak to the elected officials about me not being able to get a job. I've contacted the Diversity Coordinators in both the city and the county. In 2003, the previous Diversity Coordinator Marilyn Maze had helped me out to find and apply for a job, that was secured & assured to get it. But after I've submitted my resume and application. I was denied again! Ms. Maze wouldn't talk to me any more.. Greg Rikhoff the city Human Rights coordinator, and the rest of the Human Rights resources are making sure I will not have a job any place no matter how hard I tried..

Last Fall I applied for a teaching job in Corvallis at OSU. After I was hired. Dr.Susan Shaw: the chair of the Women Studies fired me without any reasonable reason. I've tried with different department and diversity, I was faced by the silent treatment, because I'm blacklisted. No one will honor my request or respond to my application..

All this because I had blew the whistle on some of our elected officials and the EPD.

www.nadiasindi.blogspot.com

thanks.

nadia sindi

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» RE: Professor Posted by: anonymous black writer
Seen it with my own eyes
Posted by: YogiBear on Apr 27, 2006 3:15 PM   
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First job I ever had was for a small family-owned newspaper. I beat out 40 people to get the job, probably including people with more experience. I found out just before I left that the owners were very racist. We were supposed to all get together at their house for some kind of cookout and when I asked the white secretary if she was bringing her new boyfriend (who was black) she said "No! I'll lose my job!" They were that bad.

Made me wonder how many of those 40 other people who applied for the same job were black, or hispanic, or something else the owners didn't like. So just because you may have never seen it yourself, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

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» RE: Seen it with my own eyes Posted by: neosoul
A question
Posted by: mdf1960 on May 12, 2006 11:23 PM   
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The unemployment rates for black and white men were very close during the period from 1900-1930. If "discrimination" is the cause of much black unemployment, why did this gap appear as society became more liberal on race issues?

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The Root of the Black Job Crisis
Posted by: anonymous black writer on Dec 31, 2006 3:24 AM   
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This issue is not cultural or personal. Whenever this topic comes up, people talk about how some black people should have gotten their education, worked hard, and stayed on the right side of the law. That may apply to some people, but how does that apply to the ambitious, college-educated,law-abiding black candidates that are passed over for less ambitious whites that don't have college degrees and do have criminal records. This study along with several other studies have highlighted this regressive pattern. Blacks are impacted the most by this pattern, but other people of color also experience it too.If the truth be told, companies value immigrants over blacks because immigrant are cheaper, more docile, know minimum wage laws and can be deported if they get too uppity. Blacks don't have these advantages. Most companies want cheap labor and they don't care where they find it. If they are already predisposed to being prejudice, they use their bias to justify hiring people that they are prejudiced against. Black business are no different so that does not justify the culturalist stance.I am not anti-education, but the skills argument is at least partially a load of crap. Speaking of education, many schools-private,public,suburban,urban- do not teach the study or critical thinking skills kids to teach themselves to learn. They also don't give you suggestions/advice or provide the resources out there for you to teach yourself. Now I am a person that believes that schools can't teach everything so I go to the libraries. However, libraries do not always have what you need. Yeah, the library system in the U.S. is copasetic and better than most but it does not always have books on study skills and critical thinking either. I know from personal experience that this is the case because I LIKE LIBRARIES. I have gone several times to different libraries to find one or two study skills/critical thinking books, if that many, checked out or sold when the library sells books to raise money if they ever bought the books in the first place. To get slightly off the subject, it is so bad in my hometown that they do not even have books about the media specialist field(library science). To be sure and fair, people are not rushing to get in the field but you would think the MAIN PUBLIC BRANCH would have at least a book about the field if only just to promote its own profession. What kind of crap is that!!! Really, if the main public branch is this deficient, imagine the lack in branch libraries, especially areas with low-income minorities, if they have them. Far as I know, only one low income minority area in my town even has a branch library.Go to any other specialty or academic libraries, they at least promote the professions or skills they teach/emphasize if nothing else. One more thing, if libraries are anything like the typical museum, archive it is not all that relevant to lived experience of poor people and minorities. I still wish more people would go if they don't simply because these laudable institutions exist and folk should feel blessed to have the institutions-still this lack of relevance to the lives of certain groups is half the problem. Anyway, I get tired of U.S. citizens-White,Black,or Latino-using immigrants as scapegoats for the greed and selfishness of employers; but I am also tired of many Whites, Black, and Latinos falsely accusing all blacks of always being lazy or lacking in something when they are not hired for jobs. Immigrants have a strong work ethic; and blacks do too.

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