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Containing China

By Michael T. Klare, Tomdispatch.com. Posted April 20, 2006.


Despite Bush's preoccupation with Iraq and Iran, the administration is more concerned with keeping China from becoming an economic and military superpower.
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[Editor's Note: China's president, Hu Jintao, meets today with President Bush at a time when Chinese relations with the U.S. are tense and likely to get worse. But here Michale Klare takes a look behind the scenes to reveal that American leaders are fighting tooth and nail to keep China from taking over the role of the world's most powerful nation.]

Slowly but surely, the grand strategy of the Bush administration is being revealed. It is not aimed primarily at the defeat of global terrorism, the incapacitation of rogue states, or the spread of democracy in the Middle East. These may dominate the rhetorical arena and be the focus of immediate concern, but they do not govern key decisions regarding the allocation of long-term military resources. The truly commanding objective -- the underlying basis for budgets and troop deployments -- is the containment of China.

This objective governed White House planning during the administration's first seven months in office, only to be set aside by the perceived obligation to highlight anti-terrorism after 9/11; but now, despite Bush's preoccupation with Iraq and Iran, the White House is also reemphasizing its paramount focus on China, risking a new Asian arms race with potentially catastrophic consequences.

President Bush and his top aides entered the White House in early 2001 with a clear strategic objective: to resurrect the permanent-dominance doctrine spelled out in the Defense Planning Guidance (DPG) for fiscal years 1994-99, the first formal statement of U.S. strategic goals in the post-Soviet era. According to the initial official draft of this document, as leaked to the press in early 1992, the primary aim of U.S. strategy would be to bar the rise of any future competitor that might challenge America's overwhelming military superiority.

"Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival… that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union," the document stated. Accordingly, "we [must] endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power."

When initially made public, this doctrine was condemned by America's allies and many domestic leaders as being unacceptably imperial as well as imperious, forcing the first President Bush to water it down; but the goal of perpetuating America's sole-superpower status has never been rejected by administration strategists. In fact, it initially became the overarching principle for U.S. military policy when the younger Bush assumed the presidency in February 2001.

Target: China

When first enunciated in 1992, the permanent-dominancy doctrine was non-specific as to the identity of the future challengers whose rise was to be prevented through coercive action. At that time, U.S. strategists worried about a medley of potential rivals, including Russia, Germany, India, Japan, and China; any of these, it was thought, might emerge in decades to come as would-be superpowers, and so all would have to be deterred from moving in this direction. By the time the second Bush administration came into office, however, the pool of potential rivals had been narrowed in elite thinking to just one: the People's Republic of China. Only China, it was claimed, possessed the economic and military capacity to challenge the United States as an aspiring superpower; and so perpetuating U.S. global predominance meant containing Chinese power.

The imperative of containing China was first spelled out in a systematic way by Condoleezza Rice while serving as a foreign policy adviser to then Governor George W. Bush during the 2000 presidential campaign. In a much-cited article in Foreign Affairs, she suggested that the PRC, as an ambitious rising power, would inevitably challenge vital U.S. interests. "China is a great power with unresolved vital interests, particularly concerning Taiwan," she wrote. "China also resents the role of the United States in the Asia-Pacific region."

For these reasons, she stated, "China is not a 'status quo' power but one that would like to alter Asia's balance of power in its own favor. That alone makes it a strategic competitor, not the 'strategic partner' the Clinton administration once called it." It was essential, she argued, to adopt a strategy that would prevent China's rise as regional power. In particular, "The United States must deepen its cooperation with Japan and South Korea and maintain its commitment to a robust military presence in the region." Washington should also "pay closer attention to India's role in the regional balance," and bring that country into an anti-Chinese alliance system.


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Michael Klare is a professor of peace and world security studies at Hampshire College in Amherst, Mass., and the author of Blood and Oil: The Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Petroleum Dependency.

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Bush's imperial wet dream
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 20, 2006 1:36 AM   
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Its hard to say what the goal of the Bush administration is here. Is it just another excuse to funnel funds to the major US arms manufacturers? Certainly that is part of their goal, but what else do they have in mind? Oh yes - global dominance of the world trade in petroleum and natural gas as the basis for "A New American Empire."

China's oil strategy seems to be a big issue - Bush wants China to obtain oil "through the oil markets" according to a New York Times blurb - i.e. the fact that China is cutting deals directly with suppliers instead of buying futures on the oil markets is worrisome to oil traders and investment banks. Bush wants to deal with the China-US trade imbalance by devalueing China's currency; a notion which, oddly enough, China is resisting. Bush to China: "We want you to be a source of cheap labor for US companies... and nothing else."

Militarily, China just has to defend itself since their policy isn't based on using their military to secure foreign oil supplies, unlike other countries we could mention. Unlike Iraq and Iran, they do have quite a few nuclear weapons (and a gigantic army).

The New York Times also said that China is "willing to deal with repressive regimes, unlike the US." They said this with a straight face, too - never mind Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan, Nigeria, Colombia, Chad - What other countries are US oil companies doing business with today? It would be good if human rights became an issue in oil production across the board, but this is definitely a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

The New York Times seems bent on portraying US oil acquisitions from foreign countries as some kind of global human rights crusade... in fact, their central theme, unchanged for a number of decades? now, is that "The US is the greatest force for good that the world has ever known". I'm sure Bill O'Reilly would agree. The notion that the US 'Tonya Harding' model of economic competition (which is largely based on international loan-sharking and strong-arm operations) is a bad idea, morally and economically, just doesn't break the surface of the corporate media.

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» RE: Bush's imperial wet dream Posted by: symcokid
author fails to see that allowing (or even prompting) 9/11 to happen
Posted by: verite on Apr 20, 2006 3:58 AM   
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was part of the China containment strategy... to invent a reason to invade the ME oil suppliers not already financing Carlyle and Haliburton.
Ultimately this strategy will fail as the meek inherit the earth by their growth of alternative means..

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Ex cultural revolution wittness.
Posted by: pakebeer2u on Apr 20, 2006 4:36 AM   
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Let us be honest, China is the most powerful nation already thanks amongst others to "Buy American"-Wal-Mart.

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Giving India and other Asian countries less nuclear strains
Posted by: maxpayne on Apr 20, 2006 5:30 AM   
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won't stop China from keeping its power hungry appetite growing but in theory, it might temporarily keep them at bay. Still, I find it pathetic that neither Pakistan, Israel, nor China get much if any inspection from either the U.S. or the U.N. for all their nuclear violations but India is forced to a higher standard.

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What you wish for...
Posted by: John Rice on Apr 20, 2006 5:58 AM   
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...sometimes has unexpected consequences.

We wanted China to become "democratic" (which today really means capitalistic with a pretense of citizen input into governance). China decided to respond by competing in the world with the USA not by spending more on arms, but by outcapitalizing the capitalists, and they are winning via capitalization-by-government. (What we used to call communism.)

They now own our jobs (at a cost of only $100/person/month) have our newest machinery and methods, and own a huge portion of our enormous national debt.

They have reduced poverty instead of spending their money on arms.

They intend to win without firing a shot....and our response seems to be consistent--if they don't do our bidding--whatever it is--nuke 'em--our answer, almost without regard for the question--always seems to be overwhelming force and aggression. Little wonder that although most people around the world like us as people, they hate us for what our government does to them.

Where is the America I was taught to love and respect?

Did it ever exist or was it a figment made of whole cloth via successful propaganda to hide our nation's dominating imperial ambitions?

Regards,,John
( john_rice@neitherparty.org )

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» RE: What you wish for... Posted by: the poet
» RE: What you wish for... Posted by: joshua3234
the American fauxLeft is always more concerned with foreign affairs, environment, eating habits than
Posted by: cry0fan on Apr 20, 2006 6:20 AM   
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Anyone ever notice how the American fauxLeft is always more concerned with foreign affairs, environment, eating habits than being concerned with bread and butter economics issues like universal healthcare, immigration and its effect on, the labor-supply/labor-demand ratio, trade tariffs, progressive taxation, etc. Note that these bread and butter economics issues are now given little attention by our American fauxleft. THey would rather talk about china and foreign affairs. Do they advocate in this article that we should slap a huge tariff on chinese products? Of course not. That kind of stuff is not what our fauxleft deals in.

They would rather discuss how fat America is, or environmentalism, or the poor. It's almost never about bread and butter economics issues that would unite the bottom two thirds of America, issues like universal healthcare, progressive taxation, college tuition, labor supply and demand. Or if they do ocassionally deign to stoop to address these pleblian issues, they almost always take the side of the upper class. They support mass immigration; they talk positively about faux-universal healthcare (e.g., the scam ongoing in Massachussets).

You ever wonder why? Because the fauxleft is organized around ideas that come out of think tanks and nonprofit foundations, and writers that are funded by these nonprofit foundations. These foundations were set up and funded by the plutocrats and the corporations so as to be able to influence the american political culture. Our American left is really a fauxleft that serves the overclass.

You see it right before you on alternet, which is funded by nonprofit foundations. Look at the range of articles here over time. And this is not an unusual website. Alternet is square in the middle of the American left/liberal realm.

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Huh, I see true "cognitive dissonance" here.
Posted by: Prophit on Apr 20, 2006 7:11 AM   
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What did they think was going to happen back when Bush I began this process of dismantling our nations manufacturing and sending it to China who used slave labor of their prisons to make those goods??? That was going to make that dictatorship wealthy as any normal person like myself could tell and it was going to reduce us to "services" which does not create wealth, it simply redistributes the wealth we already had.

Hello, China is the sole manufacturer of our missles, HELLO! Is this another disinformation piece article or for real? Its getting hard to know these days. There is Cognitive dissonance here. On the one hand this article appears to present our Gov as trying to control the growth and power of China and on the other hand, IN ACTIONS, it is contributing to that exact concern by providing them with the business they need to do exactly that. Add to that the gift of technology we give them to make those missles for us so they can steal it and begin making their own eliminating the long and expensive process of Research and Development. 60% of the Dept of Defenses manufacturing budget goes to foreign countries.

Its way to bizarre to take this article seriously.

This is what I call "crazy making" of the mind. The words do not match the actions of this government. This articlel should have pointed that out. Maybe it did and I missed it somehow.

The only rational explanation I can get from this oxymoron is that the US military Industrial complex wants a GLOBAL WAR for their money making machine just like WWII, where they supported Hitler and the west while the bankers funded both of which Bush was one (Prescott that is). That is why they are giving so much to China to see to it that it would result in a real war of great expense in lives and money.

This has all been going on since the Fed reserve was created in 1913, has anyone really noticed that little fact???????

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Cry0Fan is correct
Posted by: Moonray on Apr 20, 2006 8:02 AM   
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This is a good, informative article on China -- actually on the U.S. military-industrial complex -- but Cry0Fan's comment above also is right on the money. One of my pet peeves about most websites and the MSM is their lack of focus on nuts-and-bolts issues such as health care, affordable housing, the toll taken by bad laws against marijuana, prostitution, etc. and other pragmatic subjects.

Actually, this article on China is quite valid, and is not a good example of the fluff and drek that dominate the media. But we all know what Cry0Fan means, and he or she is quite right.

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Hard to Contain China When they have the Keys to our Treasury in Hand!
Posted by: Gretchen on Apr 20, 2006 8:10 AM   
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Considering how much we are literally indebted to China for our "standard of living", China is containing us--just barely, not the reverse. We are sitting on an economic pack of cards and the cards are held by the likes of China, Japan, Saudi Arabia and the other nations that are buying up our treasury bonds. They are the ones that already own America. All they have to do is pull their money out, switch the basis of oil to the Euro and we are gone, superpower facade and all!

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otto
Posted by: otto on Apr 20, 2006 8:13 AM   
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Has anyone considered the idea that Bush and company might want to use a nuclear strike against Iran (either from Israel or the U.S.) to serve as a warning against China? With China quickly emerging as the economc giant of the world, and they have the atomic bomb, plus enough ground troops to use up almost all American ammunition, the only other alternative that Bush & gang might see is a bunch of "pre-emptive strikes" against China, since we have more missiles than they have. Since China is aware of that, maybe Bush and Rumsfeld hope that a strike against Iran will warn them and scare them.
And, by the way, does anyone know about the "SCO" (Shanghai Cooperative Organization") consisting of Russia, China, India, Iran and a few smaller Asian countries - who exist apparently to counteract U.S. backed power-policy agencies?

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More about China
Posted by: Moonray on Apr 20, 2006 8:16 AM   
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An addendum: Now is an excellent opportunity for the Bush administration and the China regime to stave off another arms race by agreeing to freeze and roll back weapons inventories. Just think of the hundreds of billions of dollars that would be saved on both sides.

Of course, that won't happen, because U.S. arms manufacturers give huge campaign donations to American politicians. And the Chinese aren't angels either. They are becoming very powerful, and power corrupts. Let's hope our current economic interdependence will help us prevent a future war.

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» RE: More about China Posted by: Lincoln fan
Containment of China.
Posted by: Pau on Apr 20, 2006 8:36 AM   
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To be the number one power in the world, is a natural aspiration of any nation. It has been the policy of the U.S. for lots of decades and after the desintegration of the USRR, they managed to hold that title completely uncontested. With this achievement, Bush or no Bush, the U.S. has become a rogue nation, one that ignores the U.N. and the wishes of others. Even their own internal democracy is being eroded.
It is not surprising that others want to end their military supremacy, specially with the coming sueeze and uncertainty of energy sources and markets.
But what the U.S. ought to do, is center a little more on its natural allies and stop allienating and ignoring them : Europe.
It is to me obvious that the containment of China will be impossible in the long term if it continues on the path of economic and industrial development. Therefore the only alternative is to start looking at the rest of the world, develop strong natural alliances to maintain a balance of powers and terminate the arrogant and selfish attitude of the last years. The U.S. must learn to share, and this does not mean conditional charity of scraps and leftovers and support of absolute dictators.

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Klare Hasn't Thought Much Through
Posted by: pelle_in_goal on Apr 20, 2006 9:08 AM   
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"Such a drive will not bring China to the brink of military equality with the United States -- that is not a condition it can realistically aspire to over the next few decades."

Is Klare kidding? China's already stolen documents on the Aegis Weapons System as well as key materials on Trident missiles and submarines. It's been estimated that this has brought China 10 years closer to the US in terms of nuclear counterforce and anti-naval warfare.

Nuclear aircraft carriers have been the best way to project US power in conventional warfare. While everyone in the Bush Administration and the DOD must be constantly erect over this summer's naval maneuvers, adding more carrier task forces to the Pacific and Indian Oceans isn't going to scare the Chinese to any great degree. It's the "boomers" which will decide the next war with China.

Carriers have a shelf life of about 48 hours in a nuclear war. What is more relevant to the discussion of China obtain parity with the US is more related to the already mentioned nuclear launch subs as well as nuclear attack subs. Maybe Klare forgets that the Russia can provide enormous help to China in anti-submarine warfare -- if it hasn't already -- and the two have drawn closer together in the last couple of years. Russia already offers the potential of a vast consumer market -- especially when the US goes "belly-up" from debt in the next few years.

Or, putting it more simply, that as America defaults on its securities already held by the Chinese, and has to scramble to make some kind of re-payment plan, that China could easily impose sanctions on the US which would limit its military budget spending for however long it takes the Chinese to catch up.

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Neoconservatism is alive and well
Posted by: russellcole38 on Apr 20, 2006 10:38 AM   
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One would think that all of the ideologically driven quasi-intellectuals at the Program for a new American Century would finally give up after being so thoroughly embarrassed over this disaster in Iraq. Such an expectation, however, would require that they possess degree of humility, which is a quality that these self-annointed Ubermeschen obviously do not instantiate. This is starting to get even more scary, if it is indeed possible, considering the situation in Iran, and, now, the belligerent foreign-policy posture that we are presumebly assuming with respect to China. God save us. You would think that the Evangelicals might at some point consider that if they are looking for an Anti-Christ to appear, who endeavors to consolidate the entire globe under his powers, then it is Bush who appears as the most likely character, embodying the qualities associated with the Beast.
Russell Cole

< href="http://midwestpopulistparty.org/blog">Weblog of the Midwest Populist Party; Regional Affiliation belonging to the Populist Party of America

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The USA is the world's biggest pimp
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Apr 20, 2006 12:55 PM   
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People get upset over pimps in their neighborhoods who hustle women and even boys either to make ends meet or to exercise power.
But no pimp can hustle a nation or a community the way the United States government does onto the world's nations.
Look at how we pimped Pakistan against its Arab neighbor, Afghanistan; and now we're using Japan, South Korea, India, and Australia as prostitutes to counter China's rise as a world pimp. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are permanent mistresses in the Americans stable of whores. They'll obey any command the pimp tells them.
Europe is in the Yanks' rear window in their gigantic SUV.
We used Saddam Hussein as a small-time pimp in Iraq when times were going well for him. We made him the ruler as he victimized his people. And when we grew tired of his influence, we took him out of the exclusive membership of the world's Players Club.
The Americans love playing the globopimp in just about everything economically to control the world's resources that the US needs to sustain its appetite.
China will not comply to being added to America's cache of mistresses. The Chinese are smarter than that. America wants the Chinese dame real bad. She can hold her against this evil pimp.
What we've done to other countries is shameful. One of these days the pimp will lose everything if he's not careful. Don't be surprised if-IF-one of the USA's mistresses kills him.

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Land of the free (currently) but the bUsh idiot has worked trielessly to end it.
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Apr 20, 2006 2:33 PM   
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Bush has taken our country into terrific debt TO CHINA; WHAT A REAL JERK HE IS! OUR COUNTRY IS IN DEEP TROUBLE AND PERHAPS CHINA HAS BEEN CROUCHING LIKE A TIGER READY TO LEAP ON US but then maybe China will prove to be more civilized than the uncontrollable ANIMAL, BUSH !

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Different threats . . .
Posted by: Baranga on Apr 20, 2006 3:14 PM   
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Interesting comments regarding China, but many of the fears surrounding its meteoric rise to economic super-heavyweight status, as well as its military stockpiling have little to do with what will be the ruin of the world. I mentioned this in another thread - can't remember which right off the top of my head, but overpopulation and related environmental degradation and disease will probably come into play before we are ever exchanging nukes over Taiwan or “encirclement”. . . Has anyone here ever been to China? I have lived in L.A. and Denver and on the worst day, I never saw, or more accurately, never inhaled air so polluted as that of Beijing or Shanghai. The condition of the water supply and air alone are considerable liabilities. I won’t even go into the wealth disparity that separates urban Chinese from their rural counterparts. There is also an aging population in China that is not feeling the love and will not sit idly by in famine while the rest of the country feasts. These issues figure largely in China but we just don’t hear about them as much here.

Let me address other potentialities mentioned earlier. I read one post in which the author claims that China need do nothing more than switch to the Euro or sell our debt and instant empire collapse - rubbish. Assuming the ravages of H5N1, SARS or some other super-virus don't spread across India and China et al killing millions upon millions first, China has little leverage with which to force the US hand economically when you think about it. What are they going to do about the debt – sell it? Will they come waltzing across the Pacific and demand that we honor it? I have said this over and over – THE US HAS NO INTENTION OF HONORING THAT DEBT! We are actually pimping one another, contrary to what one of the previous posters pointed out. China and Japan are lending the US money in order to finance our never-ending shopping spree (consisting mainly of their cheap products) while shielding their own markets from American competition. American economic policy makers are dumb, but not that dumb. They are willing to let China get away with this in addition to an artificially low-pegged Yuan in the short term because China is effectively financing our military adventurism in Iraq, and coming soon, Iran. China continues to lend cheap money because they don’t believe our military gambits will succeed and moreover because they still count on America’s “keeping up with the Jones’s” lifestyle to finance their “rising star – let’s build aircraft carriers” attitude.

When Bu$hco has finally gotten its mitts on as much oil as possible, they will tell the Chinese to go blow it out their asses as oil will be the currency of the future – not for our cars but for tanks, jets and attack helicopters. I don’t think tanks and Apaches run on ethanol. . .


A weak dollar makes it increasingly difficult to sell the worthless crap the average American just can’t do without! To paraphrase John Paul Getty: If you owe the bank a hundred dollars, you’ve got a problem. If you owe the bank three trillion dollars, the bank’s got a problem.

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Cont.
Posted by: Baranga on Apr 20, 2006 3:15 PM   
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The bottom line is this: Overpopulation is what world leaders should be talking about but I guess if you aren’t reproducing rapidly enough you can’t kill as many innocent people with those fun new hypersonic missiles. H5N1, SARS or other diseases and their soon-to-be permanent vectors – humans, will be doing nicely in the killing department I suspect. You can’t have billions of people living in increasingly cramped spaces and not expect the earth to purge itself. It’s easy to be super-pissed about the US and especially with its incredibly deficient and inept leadership, but in our rush to hate and vilify ourselves we are forgetting that China is no angel either. One can only wonder why that women heckled Hu today. I’m as critical of Bush and Dumsfeld as the next guy but I am also a little disappointed to see how many people are apparently eagerly anticipating becoming China’s bitch. I would love to see America return to a more isolationist stance while remaining vigilant about global threats and make no mistake – China is a global threat too. Like the US, you don’t assemble an army like that unless you intend to use it . . .

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» RE: Cont. Posted by: joshua3234
Why Are Giving The Chinese Vital Strategic Assets????
Posted by: bodo on Apr 20, 2006 4:48 PM   
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Maybe somebody could explain the significance of these articles to me. Why would we be handing over vital strategic equipment and locations to the Chinese if the Chinese are the ones our administration is so worried about? How does this make sense? See for yourself:

www.buchanan.org/pa-97-0313.html

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/270306nobid.htm

www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/12/210339.shtml

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/200306China.htm


Can somebody tell me what the hell is going on? The contradictions here are frightening.

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a different twist on the subject...
Posted by: morningstar777 on Apr 20, 2006 7:38 PM   
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Wendi Wang aged 47, and a newsreporter angrily said to the president of China to free people in China who practice Falun Gong.
If anything, this is a religious struggle. after visiting www.falundafa.org , I learned alot about what 100 million chinese people want. the freedom to practice their religion that was condemned in 1999.
the Chinese Government is scary.
they try to prevent the freedom of speech, they lock up people practicing their religion, and if they continue, they have their organs cut out and donated to medical science.
did I mention the concentration camps? oh yes. plenty of them. they are brutally raped and murdered and beaten. Starved to death, and force fed.
The idea of Bush shaking hands with this monster makes me want to retch.
what a disgusting display of political hype. further persecuting those that have escaped the political nightmare of China.
I am new to Falun Gong, but I have decided it is worth pursuing, since so many, over 100 million Chinese are not free to practice this beautiful art where there is a spiritual and physical balance.
I pray for their release.

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» RE: a different twist on the subject... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: a different twist on the subject... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Have you been in China? Posted by: Brucewxx
Those comments sounded more like from Fox News
Posted by: Brucewxx on Apr 21, 2006 8:28 AM   
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I really wonder which site I am reading as many of those comments sounded more like from Fox News and other neocon sites. Why do you hate China so much, just because it has just pulled itsself from the poor and hungry in 25 years and started to share the global resource you considered your own for past 70 years? Just because Chinese could affort to buy things now you considered only you should be allowed to buy? A lot of things should be and could be improved there, such as polution and the gap between poor and rich, but this is caused exactly by the capitalism promoted by US and West to China 20-30 years ago. If you look back the push by US and the West to open the door in China and the free trade. Now you have it and you want to constrain China because it does it too well. The current Chinese government could be blamed for many things, but NOT for over-population. They pushed for one-Child policy and are hated by the West and are blamed for forced abortion, but the fact is that China has slow down the population growth!! You cannot have both ways. By the way India will overtake China as the most populated country in 30 years.
I am really disppointed by those comments and realized that the so-called the liberals are just as ignored and intolerant as the neocons.

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» Right on brother! Posted by: Bobsays
China is the most exciting place on the planet
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 22, 2006 4:25 AM   
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I can say this: China is the most exciting place on the planet right now. It beats the pants of Africa's terminal crisis, and shows up Latin America, for all its gusto. China has an energy I have only ever felt before in the US.

I would recommend for everyone to go there and see for themselves what is happening. It turns much of what we take for granted on its head. It has many problems, yes, but (and I work in international development) there is no other place that has been able to get to grips with catastrophic poverty like china has.

It blows away anything being peddled by the UN. It makes a total mockery of all those gender awareness seminars, UN prgramme themes, and mealy mouthed garbage that spews forth from the world's development agency. China has a goal, and its getting there. If you want a monument to the UN approach, look at Africa.

I for one, will never accept the UN approach ever again. It just doesn't work. In fact, it's harmful.

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China is the most exciting place on the planet
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 22, 2006 4:25 AM   
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I can say this: China is the most exciting place on the planet right now. It beats the pants of Africa's terminal crisis, and shows up Latin America, for all its gusto. China has an energy I have only ever felt before in the US.

I would recommend for everyone to go there and see for themselves what is happening. It turns much of what we take for granted on its head. It has many problems, yes, but (and I work in international development) there is no other place that has been able to get to grips with catastrophic poverty like china has.

It blows away anything being peddled by the UN. It makes a total mockery of all those gender awareness seminars, UN prgramme themes, and mealy mouthed garbage that spews forth from the world's development agency. China has a goal, and its getting there. If you want a monument to the UN approach, look at Africa.

I for one, will never accept the UN approach ever again. It just doesn't work. In fact, it's harmful.

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