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"I was a Republican. I did stand up. I got crucified for it and finally said, 'To hell with it,'" says Elisabeth "Jinx" Ecke, a longtime Planed Parenthood supporter and board member in San Diego, Calif. "I've tried to support Republican candidates in the California Assembly, and they swear on a stack of bibles that they'll vote pro- choice. Then they go to Sacramento and they vote anti-choice. I'm done."
Ecke, 74, cast her first vote for Dwight Eisenhower back in 1953. Four years ago, she reregistered by checking the "Decline to State" box. "I'm supporting mostly Democrats for one simple reason: choice," she says. "People say you can't be a one issue voter and I say, 'Yes I can.'"
Jewel Edson, 46, another lifelong Republican who "sadly" voted for President Bush in 2000 and Sen. John Kerry in 2004, says she's disappointed with the Republican Party in general. "It has turned me into a person who votes for a candidate, not the party," she says.
Today, the Republican Party's platform says, "Any effort to address global social problems must be firmly placed within a context of respect for the fundamental social institutions of marriage and family. For that reason, we support protecting the rights of families in international programs and oppose funding organizations involved in abortion." It also says, "We support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions."
Sue Savage ran as a Republican national delegate during George H.W. Bush's term because she wanted to take abortion out of the party's platform and out of politics altogether. She lost her bid.
Savage says she and her pro-choice Republican friends from Lancaster County, Penn., can no longer compromise over the issues of abortion and family planning. "A lot of my friends have left the Republican Party, including friends who've been elected in the Republican Party," she says. "I was privately voting for Democrats in the voting booth, but it got to the point where it was a very cathartic experience to officially change parties."
Hoping to prevent others from leaving the party in droves, the Republican Majority for Choice (RMC) last month launched a campaign called the "Hunt for Real Republicans" in Pennsylvania, home of one of the most watched Senate races in the country. The campaign kicked off with ads in every major daily Pennsylvania newspaper calling for real Republicans to step up and challenge the extreme right wing of the party. While the ads didn't specifically mention Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, they were obviously targeting his extreme views on choice, family planning and stem cell research.
"Our ad campaign is meant to force a dialogue," says Kellie Ferguson, executive director of the RMC. "Can we get Santorum to at least open his mind? If he doesn't, he's going to lose. We don't want to oppose members of our own party, but we need to point out that this has gone too far."
In a March 3, 2006, letter to the group, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., a member of its advisory board, wrote, "I strongly oppose these advertisements. The Big Tent is big enough to include both Rick Santorum and Arlen Specter. The RMC ought not to be in the business of electing Democrats to the United States Senate. Without Senator Santorum's support, I would not have won the 2004 Republican primary. As I believe the RMC knows, I've repeatedly said that Senator Santorum's reelection is my top priority in 2006. I call on." Specter went on to say that he will withhold his decision on whether to resign from the RMC's advisory board until he sees what further action RMC takes on this matter.
The RMC, which opposed Sen. Specter's vote to confirm Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, will continue its "Hunt for Real Republican" campaign in Pennsylvania through mailings and online outreach and plans to expand it to other states.
Ferguson says immediately after the South Dakota law passed, many of the RMC's 150,000 members called and emailed the group threatening to leave the Republican Party unless the tide changes. "The scales have finally tipped, and it's time for us to take the lead," she says. "The ban on abortion with no exception for rape and incest is reality now. It's always been a threat that no one ever thought would come to light."
Bush reinstated the Global Gag Rule on his first day in office, which halts all funding to overseas family planning clinics. Just three days before the 30th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, Bush proclaimed Jan. 19, 2003, as National Sanctity of Human Life Day. Bush's views have been clear from the start, so why has it taken so long for pro-choice Republicans to speak out?
"Moderates by nature are peaceful and don't want to rock the boat," says Ann Stone, executive director of Republicans for Choice, a D.C.-based group with 150,000 members in all 50 states. "I haven't been peaceful. The party needs to take a look at itself and what it's become because it has gotten away from its basic ideals."
Stone says she welcomes the South Dakota law because it has split the anti-choice movement and forces anti-choice Republicans to publicly take a stand on exceptions for rape and incest.
"Republicans are in power. The reason there's never been an up and down vote in Congress to frontally assault Roe is because they know the debate would kill them," she says. Only a few prominent Republican Senators have been questioned by the national media about this issue. Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas told Newsweek he strongly backs the South Dakota law. "I'd have signed it," he said. "Rape and incest are horrible crimes, but why punish the innocent child?"
And anti-abortion Sen. George Allen of Virginia told Newsweek that if a similar bill had come through his own state's legislature when he was governor, he would have vetoed it.
Sen. John McCain of Arizona has gone on record saying he supports banning abortion with exceptions to protect the life of the mother and in cases of rape or incest.
"We've actually considered trying to provoke a Senate vote and expose them once and for all for what they are: people who want to control women," says Stone.
Out of 55 Republicans in the Senate, 46 have a 0 percent rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America and a 100 percent rating from the National Right to Life Committee. With the exception of Sens. Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, all of those senators are men.
So far, AlterNet has placed two phone calls asking each of those senators if they support overturning Roe v. Wade and, if so, do they support an exception for rape and incest? Not one senator has responded. Right now the fate of abortion rights is in the hands of the courts. But if it comes down to the Supreme Court overturning Roe v.Wade, people will remember which senators voted for the anti-abortion justices. Perhaps then, if not before, the senators will be held accountable.
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While the republicans were spending millions of dollars of tax payers money to investigate and impeach President Clinton, we could have been focusing on issues such as illegal immigration, poverty, jobs for Americans, campaign finance reform, political corruption, the outsourcing of jobs to other countries, the environment, overpaid CEO’s, outlawing lobbying, outlawing monopolies, corporations taking advantage of citizens with ridiculous late fees on credit cards, bank teller fees and more
It’s time for a change in our political, social and judicial system. The time has come. I’m ready, are you?
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This article was awfully pessismistic. All about how moderate Repubs are fed up and nothing about what Dems need to do to attract them.
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WHY PUNISH THE INNOCENT INCEST VICTIM, SENATOR? WHY?
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You want less abortion? Fine. Promote sex-education and family planning. Subsidize birth-control in as many forms as possible. Put a social safety-net in place to catch unwanted children. It might be a bit costly, but it will be cheaper and more effective than either the current policy of doing nothing or the proposed policy of driving abortion into a black market.
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I understand the abortion controversy, and I think it's monstrous. I don't believe men should even be allowed to vote on the issue, if a vote there must be - which is extremely questionable, as well.
It makes me sad. It's one thing for me to drive 120 miles for a tattoo. I can't believe we live in a world where this article need ever be written. I don't know what I'd do if I were a woman in this messed-up society.
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The right to criticize;
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The exercise of these rights should not cost one single American citizen his reputation or his right to a livelihood nor should he be in danger of losing his reputation or livelihood merely because he happens to know some one who holds unpopular beliefs. Who of us doesn't? Otherwise none of us could call our souls our own.
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"The Roman government appeared every day less formidable to its enemies, more odious and oppressive to its subjects. The taxes were multiplied with the public distress; economy was neglected in proportion as it became necessary; and the injustice of the rich shifted the unequal burden from themselves to the people, whom they defrauded of the indulgences that might sometimes have alleviated their misery.
"The severe inquisition, which confiscated their goods and tortured their persons, compelled the subjects of Valentinian to prefer the more simple tyranny of the barbarians, or to fly to the woods and mountains, or to embrace the vile and abject condition of mercenary servants. They abjured and abhorred the name of Roman citizens, which had formerly excited the ambition of mankind. The Armorican provinces of Gaul and the greatest part of Spain were thrown into a state of disorderly independence by the confederations of the Bagaudae, and the Imperial ministers pursued with proscriptive laws and ineffectual arms the rebels whom they themselves had made.
"If all the barbarian conquerors had been annihilated in the same hour, their total destruction would not have restored the empire of the West: and if Rome still survived, she survived the loss of freedom, of virtue, and of honour."
- Edward Gibbon, 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' (1776)
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...abortion clinics on every corner.
...birth control subsidized as heavily as the oil industry.
...fewer fights on any scale (e.g., personally, political, supranational).
...a week off of work every month.
...paid maternity leave, before and after.
...really cheap tubal ligations.
But at the rate this country is going, it won't be long until we're back to condoms made out of oiled sheep intestines.
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It is difficult to argue for any position that is "somewhere in the middle" when it comes to abortion laws. If it is true that a human life exists from the moment of conception, then abortion should never be allowed under any circumstances.
A child conceived through rape or incest is still a child, based on this logic. The health of the mother cannot outweigh the life of a child, and it can never be certain that carrying a child would cost the mother her life. Looked at this way, abortion should never be acceptable.
There is, however, another way of viewing the issue. That view would be that the life and choices of a fully-recognized human being must take precedence over the rights of a developing human.
From this perspective, no woman should ever be forced to make a medical decision that goes against her own perceived interests. She should never be compelled, by force of law, to carry a child to term.
I am not suggesting that an easy answer exists. It seems that most politicians and most citizens want to choose some middle ground that leans one way or the other, but this issue appears to be one of clear colors, not shades of gray. I am just not sure whether that color should be red or blue.
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They do not want to leave the party. Don't bother with them.
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Perhaps the most dramatic effect of legalized abortion, however, and one that would take years to reveal itself, was its impact on crime. In the early 1990s, just as the first cohort of children born after Roe v: Wade was hitting his late teen years -- the years during which young men enter their criminal prime -- the rate of crime began to fall. What this cohort was missing, of course, were the children who stood the greatest chance of becoming criminals. And the crime rate continued to fall as an entire generation came of age minus the children whose mothers had not wanted to bring a child into the world. Legalized abortion led to less unwantedness; unwantedness leads to high crime; legalized abortion, therefore, led to less crime.
--Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, Freakonomics, pg 139
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The women's movement suffers from three classic defense mechanisms associated with minority group status: self-rejection, identification with the dominant group, and displacement.
The demand for abortion at will is a symptom of group self-hatred and total rejection, not of sex role but of sex identity.
The womb is not the be-all and end-all of woman's existence. But it is the physical center of her sexual identity, which is an important aspect of her self-image and personality. To reject its function, or to regard it a handicap, a danger or a nuisance, is to reject a vital part of her own personhood. Every woman need not be a mother, but unless every woman can identify with the potential motherhood of all women, no equality is possible. American Negroes gained nothing by straightening their kinky hair and aping the white middle class. Equality began to become a reality only when they insisted on acceptance of their different qualities -- "Black is Beautiful."
--Daphne de Jong, 14 Jan 1976, and reprinted in Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (1986), pg 163
ABOUT THE WHOLE DEBATE:
From the point of view of a fetus, pregnancy is no doubt a good deal. But consider it for a moment from the point of view of the pregnant person (if "woman" is too incendiary and feminist a term) and without reference to its potential issue. We are talking about a nine month bout of symptoms of varying severity, often including nausea, skin discolorations, extreme bloating and swelling, insomnia, narcolepsy, hair loss, varicose veins, hemorrhoids, indigestion and irreversible weight gain, and culminating in a physiological crisis which is occasionally fatal and almost always excruciatingly painful. If men were equally at risk for the condition -- if they knew that their bellies might swell as if they were suffering from end-stage cirrhosis, that they would have go for nearly a year without a stiff drink, a cigarette or even aspirin, that they would be subject to fainting spells and unable to fight their way onto commuter trains -- then I am sure that pregnancy would be classified as a sexually transmitted disease and abortions would be no more controversial than emergency appendectomies.
--Barbara Ehrenreich, 07 Feb 1985, and reprinted in Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (1986), pg 89-90
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While the republicans were spending millions of dollars of tax payers money to investigate and impeach President Clinton, we could have been focusing on issues such as illegal immigration, poverty, jobs for Americans, campaign finance reform, political corruption, the outsourcing of jobs to other countries, the environment, overpaid CEO’s, outlawing lobbying, outlawing monopolies, corporations taking advantage of citizens with ridiculous late fees on credit cards, bank teller fees and more
It’s time for a change in our political, social and judicial system. The time has come. I’m ready, are you?
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This article was awfully pessismistic. All about how moderate Repubs are fed up and nothing about what Dems need to do to attract them.
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WHY PUNISH THE INNOCENT INCEST VICTIM, SENATOR? WHY?
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You want less abortion? Fine. Promote sex-education and family planning. Subsidize birth-control in as many forms as possible. Put a social safety-net in place to catch unwanted children. It might be a bit costly, but it will be cheaper and more effective than either the current policy of doing nothing or the proposed policy of driving abortion into a black market.
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I understand the abortion controversy, and I think it's monstrous. I don't believe men should even be allowed to vote on the issue, if a vote there must be - which is extremely questionable, as well.
It makes me sad. It's one thing for me to drive 120 miles for a tattoo. I can't believe we live in a world where this article need ever be written. I don't know what I'd do if I were a woman in this messed-up society.
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The right to criticize;
The right to hold unpopular beliefs;
The right to protest;
The right of independent thought.
The exercise of these rights should not cost one single American citizen his reputation or his right to a livelihood nor should he be in danger of losing his reputation or livelihood merely because he happens to know some one who holds unpopular beliefs. Who of us doesn't? Otherwise none of us could call our souls our own.
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"The Roman government appeared every day less formidable to its enemies, more odious and oppressive to its subjects. The taxes were multiplied with the public distress; economy was neglected in proportion as it became necessary; and the injustice of the rich shifted the unequal burden from themselves to the people, whom they defrauded of the indulgences that might sometimes have alleviated their misery.
"The severe inquisition, which confiscated their goods and tortured their persons, compelled the subjects of Valentinian to prefer the more simple tyranny of the barbarians, or to fly to the woods and mountains, or to embrace the vile and abject condition of mercenary servants. They abjured and abhorred the name of Roman citizens, which had formerly excited the ambition of mankind. The Armorican provinces of Gaul and the greatest part of Spain were thrown into a state of disorderly independence by the confederations of the Bagaudae, and the Imperial ministers pursued with proscriptive laws and ineffectual arms the rebels whom they themselves had made.
"If all the barbarian conquerors had been annihilated in the same hour, their total destruction would not have restored the empire of the West: and if Rome still survived, she survived the loss of freedom, of virtue, and of honour."
- Edward Gibbon, 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' (1776)
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Posted by: benzene on Mar 28, 2006 12:09 PM
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...abortion clinics on every corner.
...birth control subsidized as heavily as the oil industry.
...fewer fights on any scale (e.g., personally, political, supranational).
...a week off of work every month.
...paid maternity leave, before and after.
...really cheap tubal ligations.
But at the rate this country is going, it won't be long until we're back to condoms made out of oiled sheep intestines.
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Posted by: SD Women Count on Mar 28, 2006 12:26 PM
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Posted by: phal4875 on Mar 28, 2006 12:33 PM
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It is difficult to argue for any position that is "somewhere in the middle" when it comes to abortion laws. If it is true that a human life exists from the moment of conception, then abortion should never be allowed under any circumstances.
A child conceived through rape or incest is still a child, based on this logic. The health of the mother cannot outweigh the life of a child, and it can never be certain that carrying a child would cost the mother her life. Looked at this way, abortion should never be acceptable.
There is, however, another way of viewing the issue. That view would be that the life and choices of a fully-recognized human being must take precedence over the rights of a developing human.
From this perspective, no woman should ever be forced to make a medical decision that goes against her own perceived interests. She should never be compelled, by force of law, to carry a child to term.
I am not suggesting that an easy answer exists. It seems that most politicians and most citizens want to choose some middle ground that leans one way or the other, but this issue appears to be one of clear colors, not shades of gray. I am just not sure whether that color should be red or blue.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Mar 28, 2006 12:48 PM
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They do not want to leave the party. Don't bother with them.
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Posted by: Newtopian on Mar 28, 2006 12:50 PM
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Posted by: Steve Adair on Mar 28, 2006 1:24 PM
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Posted by: outsidea on Mar 28, 2006 3:50 PM
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Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on Mar 28, 2006 3:58 PM
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Perhaps the most dramatic effect of legalized abortion, however, and one that would take years to reveal itself, was its impact on crime. In the early 1990s, just as the first cohort of children born after Roe v: Wade was hitting his late teen years -- the years during which young men enter their criminal prime -- the rate of crime began to fall. What this cohort was missing, of course, were the children who stood the greatest chance of becoming criminals. And the crime rate continued to fall as an entire generation came of age minus the children whose mothers had not wanted to bring a child into the world. Legalized abortion led to less unwantedness; unwantedness leads to high crime; legalized abortion, therefore, led to less crime.
--Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, Freakonomics, pg 139
CON:
The women's movement suffers from three classic defense mechanisms associated with minority group status: self-rejection, identification with the dominant group, and displacement.
The demand for abortion at will is a symptom of group self-hatred and total rejection, not of sex role but of sex identity.
The womb is not the be-all and end-all of woman's existence. But it is the physical center of her sexual identity, which is an important aspect of her self-image and personality. To reject its function, or to regard it a handicap, a danger or a nuisance, is to reject a vital part of her own personhood. Every woman need not be a mother, but unless every woman can identify with the potential motherhood of all women, no equality is possible. American Negroes gained nothing by straightening their kinky hair and aping the white middle class. Equality began to become a reality only when they insisted on acceptance of their different qualities -- "Black is Beautiful."
--Daphne de Jong, 14 Jan 1976, and reprinted in Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (1986), pg 163
ABOUT THE WHOLE DEBATE:
From the point of view of a fetus, pregnancy is no doubt a good deal. But consider it for a moment from the point of view of the pregnant person (if "woman" is too incendiary and feminist a term) and without reference to its potential issue. We are talking about a nine month bout of symptoms of varying severity, often including nausea, skin discolorations, extreme bloating and swelling, insomnia, narcolepsy, hair loss, varicose veins, hemorrhoids, indigestion and irreversible weight gain, and culminating in a physiological crisis which is occasionally fatal and almost always excruciatingly painful. If men were equally at risk for the condition -- if they knew that their bellies might swell as if they were suffering from end-stage cirrhosis, that they would have go for nearly a year without a stiff drink, a cigarette or even aspirin, that they would be subject to fainting spells and unable to fight their way onto commuter trains -- then I am sure that pregnancy would be classified as a sexually transmitted disease and abortions would be no more controversial than emergency appendectomies.
--Barbara Ehrenreich, 07 Feb 1985, and reprinted in Abortion: Opposing Viewpoints (1986), pg 89-90
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