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The Slow Death of Newspapers
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Let's use this as a handy exercise in journalism. What is the unexamined assumption here? That the newspaper business is dying. Is it? In 2005, publicly traded U.S. newspaper publishers reported operating profit margins of 19.2 percent, down from 21 percent in 2004, according to The Wall Street Journal. That ain't chopped liver -- it's more than double the average operating profit margin of the Fortune 500.
So who thinks newspapers are dying? Newspaper analysts on Wall Street. In fact, the fine folks on Wall Street just forced the sale of Knight Ridder Inc. to McClatchy Co., a chain one-third KR's size. McClatchy's CEO, Gary Pruitt, pointed out in an op-ed piece that investors are so chicken that his company picked up KR for a song. (Actually, he said no such thing -- he was far more dignified. But that's what it comes down to.) So if newspapers are so ridiculously profitable, how come there's panic on Wall Street about them? Because we're losing circulation -- 2 percent in 2004, and down 13 percent from a 1985 peak, says the Newspaper Association of America.
So we're looking at a steady decline over a long period, and many of the geniuses who run our business believe they have a solution. Our product isn't selling as well as it used to, so they think we need to cut the number of reporters, cut the space devoted to the news and cut the amount of money used to gather the news, and this will solve the problem. For some reason, they assume people will want to buy more newspapers if they have less news in them and are less useful to people. I'm just amazed the Bush administration hasn't named the whole darn bunch of them to run FEMA yet.
What cutting costs does, of course, is increase the profits, thus making Wall Street happy. It also kills newspapers.
Aside from my own sentimental attachment to newspapers, I have no objection to all of us shifting over to the Internet and doing the same thing there. You'd still have the two big problems, however: A) How do you know if it's true? And, B) how do you put a lot of information into a package that's useful to people? If newspapers were just another buggy-whip industry, none of this would be of much note -- another disappearing artifact, like the church key. But while Wall Street doesn't care, nor do many of the people who own and run newspapers, newspapers do, in fact, matter beyond producing profit -- they have a critical role in democracy. It's called a well-informed citizenry.
We are in trouble.
The Project for Excellence in Journalism, run by Columbia University, has a new report out that finds the number of media outlets continues to grow, but both the number of stories covered and the depth of reporting are sliding backward. Television, radio and newspapers are all cutting staff, while the bloggers of the Internet either do not have the size or the interest to go out and gather news. Bloggers are not news-gatherers, but opinion-mongers. I have long argued that no one should be allowed to write opinion without spending years as a reporter -- nothing like interviewing all four eyewitnesses to an automobile accident and then trying to write an accurate account of what happened. Or, as author-journalist Curtis Wilkie puts it, "Unless you can cover a five-car pile-up on Route 128, you shouldn't be allowed to cover a presidential campaign."
Tom Rosenstiel of Project for Excellence says: "It's probably glib and even naive to say simply that more platforms equal more choices. The content has to come from somewhere, and as older news-gathering media decline, some of the strengths they offer in monitoring the powerful and verifying the facts may be weakening, as well."
The McClatchy-KR merger, however, emphasizes the perils of ever fewer outlets. Twenty-five years ago, about 50 corporations owned most of the media outlets. Today, there are between eight and 12. McClatchy and KR both have fairly decent reputations for journalism, so what difference does it make if they merge?
Of course, McClatchy intends to merge the Washington bureaus. Guess which Washington bureau has the distinction of being the ONLY one to report skeptically on the administration's claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the war? Knight-Ridder and its terrific reporters Warren Strobel and Jonathan Landay. They didn't have to go to Iraq to get the story -- they found it in Washington: "Lack of Hard Evidence of Iraqi Weapons Worries Top U.S. Officials."
I've thought for years that newspapers should all be owned by nonprofits. There is a chance something like this will actually happen -- the Newspaper Guild, in alliance with the Communications Workers of America, is getting ready to bid on the 12 KR papers McClatchy has to sell. Eight of the 12 are Guild papers, with combined employment of 7,000 and circulation of 1.3 million. Among the 12 are such outstanding newspapers as The Philadelphia Inquirer, San Jose Mercury News and St. Paul Pioneer Press.
McClatchy can't swallow all of them, and so the two unions have turned to a "worker-friendly" investment fund to back their bid. Keep an eye on this: It is a most hopeful development.
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Posted by: ScottP on Mar 23, 2006 1:02 PM
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I do hope the Communications Workers succeed in taking control of some papers, and follow up by making them true sources of important information. In the meantime, I'll continue my boycott of TV, and continue to read anything from the MSM with the skepticism it deserves.
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Posted by: Louisa on Mar 23, 2006 1:39 PM
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And as far as opinion-mongering goes, what is it that you do again precisely?
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Posted by: bettsoff on Mar 23, 2006 4:53 PM
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Posted by: rsaxto on Mar 24, 2006 4:10 AM
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Posted by: farhada on Mar 24, 2006 4:41 AM
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The news in most European news papers is still alive and well worth reading. It is the US media that is falling into the info-tainment the same way TV and radio news went long time ago.
It is about money, and when they receive money to broadcast garbage, they will do it, and as long as the public pay for it, they will receive more garbage.
One good example of comparing the news in the US and outside is the book by Lisa Finnegan: "No Questions Asked", she looked into the fall of the US media (both paper and broadcast) in the aftermath of the 9/11.
You can find the highlight of the book at:
http://www.noquesitonsasked.org
And her latest articles at:
http://www.noquestionsasked.org/blog.htm
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/Farhad
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Posted by: Bobsays on Mar 24, 2006 4:42 AM
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Many newsrooms gave way to ding-dongification. They would pack the paper with poorly paid interns and babes in skirts - all watched over by bearded, alcoholic, belicose, pot-bellied old perverts. It wasn't a formula for relevance and future success. The cull of newspapers will be brutal and necessary. I think entrepreneurs should start funnelling their money into web-based news as fast as possible so that these sites can hire real talent.
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Posted by: farhada on Mar 24, 2006 4:43 AM
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The news in most European news papers is still alive and well worth reading. It is the US media that is falling into the info-tainment the same way TV and radio news went long time ago.
It is about money, and when they receive money to broadcast garbage, they will do it, and as long as the public pay for it, they will receive more garbage.
One good example of comparing the news in the US and outside is the book by Lisa Finnegan: "No Questions Asked", she looked into the fall of the US media (both paper and broadcast) in the aftermath of the 9/11.
You can find the highlight of the book at:
http://www.noquesitonsasked.org
And her latest articles at:
http://www.noquestionsasked.org/blog.htm
Best regards,
/Farhad
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Posted by: Nez46 on Mar 24, 2006 4:47 AM
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Perhaps you can enlist the good doctor’s help in getting your head out of your behind on this one.
While I would agree that many bloggers are indeed rumormongers, I would add that they also seem to be playing an ever-increasing role in forcing the mainstream media to acknowledge and report on stories that otherwise would never see the ink of pen.
Furthermore, newspaper reporting is filled with subtle biases and you, of all people, should recognize this is a major problem, since you often spend time clarifying information we're given by them.
I love ya Moll, but leave the bloggers alone and focus on your own kind before trying to clean up an area that many of us in mainstream America are turning to more and more frequently for real the news of the day.
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Posted by: Alladin on Mar 24, 2006 6:06 AM
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Posted by: rickcreswell@yahoo.com on Mar 24, 2006 8:04 AM
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Truth will always be hard work but I do wish the present newspaper and TV system would die.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 24, 2006 11:18 AM
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Good journalism takes well-educated people given a fair amount of time and a good editor. It costs money. Lots of money, especially TV. It's so much easier to to do the print version of 'rip 'n read' from the AP wire. It's also much cheaper.
Take your local paper of choice and count the number of stories in the news section. Now tally up how many are from the wire services. Unless you are reading something like the New York Times you will see that the overwhelming majority come from the AP and other wire services.
What's wrong with that? Instead of having multiple reporters from multiple newspapers investigating and writing on a subject, what we get is the same story written by one reporter in 400 newspapers.The few places that all of the large media cover themselves have a herd that is expertly handled and spoon fed by the press officers and PR people. The White House Press Room is a prime example of this.
You cannot cover agriculture from the USDA HQ, the military from the Pentagon, the economy from the Treasury Department, etc. What happens there is all political soap opera. You cover issues at the source.
If I want to cover the effects of US Forest Service policy I need to get out of D.C. All I'll get there is the party line. I need to go out to the National Forests and talk to the people in the field, people in the local communities around the Forests, people in environmental groups, people who make their living from the Forest, etc. See the difference?
It takes patience, legwork, research, travel, money and time. Just like homemade cookies, the end result is so much better than the assembly line version. It serves the public, keeps the government accountable and makes for great reading. It's called real journalism.
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Posted by: allthingslucid on Mar 24, 2006 11:31 AM
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Utter BS! Opinions don't require expertise in anything other than what you believe in which in this case is your OPINION.
Opinions MAY be influential if the source of the opinion is coming from someone who has direct experience on the matter at hand. But there are no requirements to be able to have an opinion on anything.
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Posted by: allthingslucid on Mar 24, 2006 11:35 AM
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Utter BS! Opinions don't require expertise in anything other than what you believe in which in this case is your OPINION.
Opinions MAY be influential if the source of the opinion is coming from someone who has direct experience on the matter at hand. But there are no requirements to be able to have an opinion on anything.
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Posted by: dus7 on Mar 24, 2006 5:04 PM
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I totally disagree. Increasing numbers of stories and additional information on current stories are being broken to the public by bloggers. It doesn't make sense to dump on bloggers because newspapers are having corporate and editorial difficulties. The Internet is self-regulating - those who write garbage or irrational invective are either not read or are slapped down. This is the ultimate democracy, that my voice as well as yours and anybody's can be heard. And yes, the voices of the people are worth hearing. We are not (necessarily) inexperienced, semi-literate, or uninformed. It's our sons in Iraq and our dollars that are supporting absolutely everything that's going on. I say Hooray for every blogger. We don't expect thanks, but we're beginning to demand some respect.
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Posted by: Kajamian on Mar 24, 2006 5:47 PM
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Granted, Molly. In fact that's all they started out to be. Most Bloggers are not only without size or interest -- how about time and money? How many bloggers make their living at it? Even those dedicated enough to do a lot of research on a topic are generally limited to the Internet. Even if they want to spend their time and money on phone calls, how many can get through to the decision makers and newsmakers?
Even so, they provide another voice. Lord knows we need it. Only pray that those who read can also reason. Scientists and engineers aren't the only thing we're not producing in our schools these days.
Here in Oregon, our State Supreme Court recently said the State couldn't control billboards along the highway -- violation of free speech. Now instead of using a permit system, owners just have to conform to size and setback requirements. Of course, that may mean the state loses it's federal highway monies because it will probably be violating federal laws...but what's a few potholes?
Guess who's cheering at the decision -- and stands to profit big time. How about Clear Channel! Those wonderous providers of long-distance canned entertainment. Now they not only own a sizeable number of the radio stations in the local area -- they bought out local companies until they own about 90% of the billboards. Thought control anyone?
It used to be the world was getting smaller -- now it's just the part we're able to see. Now I can't even read some of the editorials from NYT linked in articles because I'd have to pay for them. Reruns of "Elimadate" anyone?
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Posted by: kelly.nickell on Mar 25, 2006 11:33 AM
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I will always gain simple truths in a long term relationship with a subjective Molly monologue, and very little from a subjective one night stand on a five car pileup.
Once upon a time, the front page of the paper was where we put objective stories. If you could discover the stand of the reporter through the words of the story, that reporter could be labeled a hack, because those words that projected opinion belonged on another page; the op-ed. If you want to find your way onto the op-ed, you have to serve your time reporting objective truth, before you can really have an opinion about it, subjective, objective or otherwise.
Now, we have this rising tide of subjective truth, built from the ground up because we all know quite well what is wrong with the world, from point zero. Objectivity is gone because subjectivity said it was. I for one don't buy that. If you want me to consider your opinion, you will be required to give me a certain amount of objectivity in your descriptions of the world back to me. If, at the age of 21 you have found all that is wrong with the world, and it is liberal idealism, it reveals that you have spent very little time considering objectively what is going on around you. If on the other hand you admit that the jury is still out, that there are battles to be fought in support of basic truths, then when have something we can discuss. Subjective?
The liberal media myth kind of found it's way out of the barber's chair and into the mainstream, via a mass blurring of the line between objective and subjective; Exposure of corruption on the front page, and opinions on it's origins from the op-ed. The line between news, and opinion, and what goes where, has three key elements and an influential forth. This is composed of the traditionally liberal reporter and contacts, the traditionally conservative media owners and friends, the editors hugging the stripe balancing one against the other, and that forth, the letters to the editor written from the reading masses. The letters are the only real way for a dialogue to take place. As American society falls further into the economic bliss that it promises in dreams, it forces a certain amount of that dialogue out of the equation of traditional avenues and into the new realm of an all encompassing, real-time dialogue between the blogging masses – the letters to the editor, and the old style media outlets that have become more beholden to cash than truth.
Capitalism forces a privately owned media outlet to move away from objective truth; logically, no other outcome can occur, unless the masses are disciplined enough on their own to sweat out the horrors of real world events, digest them, and act accordingly. Since most of us cannot deal with the day to day horrors of our own lives very well, we take refuge in the fluffy softness of comforting subjective news so that we’ll return, and buy more of what they’re selling. Market capitalism running unchecked leads more of the masses into subjective truths to support their lives, and the continued hunt for subjective truth to support our individual pursuits that run counter to our objective truths. This gives rise to increasing amounts of forced fracture in our ideologies. Some break out of that and adhere to their core quest for basic truths, while others embrace the core quest for relative truths in their own journeys through life. Making a dollar, chasing a dollar, or analyzing it all ends up being the greatest challenge any of us as U.S. citizens will undergo in this journey, the rest is gravy.
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Posted by: kfl on Mar 25, 2006 12:24 PM
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During this time there were some incredible writers on staff (two different newspapers). One staff walked out en masse when told that they could NOT print a story the newspaper owner objected to. The story DID get printed!
Another writer i'll never forget slogged through woods and swamps to get a critical story and expose a uranium mining operation taking place covertly.
These people were gutsy. As the years went by most all of them left the profession. Corporate mergers began demanding what Molly articulates in this thoughtful piece.
Perhaps in Europe, as one poster stated, good journalism is still evident. It certainly isn't here. My local newspaper is biased AND slated, the percentage of advertising to editorial far greater than i remember.
Newspapers as advertising vehicles is outmoded and dated. I wonder when (or if) they'll get a clue?
karen
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Posted by: sgtmartin1 on Mar 25, 2006 2:33 PM
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And it's just getting worse (a bit o' media satire).
Fe Fi Faux Fun
Fox Adds Five Cable Channels
EWM- (March 25, 2006) Rupert Murdoch’s media empire expanded today with the announcement that its wildly successful Fox News franchise has spawned five new cable channels. The quintet is devoted to 24/7 coverage of various themes that have made Fox a ratings bonanza.
The plans were revealed in a celebrity-studded Times Square event in which master of ceremonies Dick Cheney shot a stage hand holding down a shroud covering giant billboards promoting the stations. As the worker fell bleeding onto Broadway Avenue, the curtain rose on a new era of cable news...
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Posted by: thesaurusrex on Mar 25, 2006 5:44 PM
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There is not much hope for optimism. The following is from the McClatchy's Minneapolis paper, the Star Tribune:
"Union says it's shut out of bidding for Knight Ridder papers
The Newspaper Guild says McClatchy won't give it the data it needs to make a bid for 12 Knight Ridder dailies."
Read it at
http://www.startribune.com/535/story/329499.html
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Posted by: krose on Mar 26, 2006 4:03 PM
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AND TURN TO EACHOTHER FOR THE "REAL" NEWS! And we will continue to blog, and blog, and blog, and blog..........
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Posted by: beausoleil on Mar 27, 2006 9:31 AM
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Posted by: ng1944 on Mar 28, 2006 5:46 AM
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we would be much better if whole media just disapear
instantly.
It long became just a tool of government disinformation
machine
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Posted by: klaus_in_ohio on Mar 28, 2006 2:41 PM
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The left likes to think of themselves as more tech savvy than the right, but cry foul when the newspapers in this nation go down the crapper.
Look at it logically people...400 guys print and transport a news story that is printed on TREE PULP!!!!
How inefficient is that???!!!!
Sorry, but the newspaper as we know it, thrown on our porch in the wee hours is DEAD.
Beam it to me on the net , on my palm pilot, my pda or my cell phone.
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Posted by: klaus_in_ohio on Mar 28, 2006 2:43 PM
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The left likes to think of themselves as more tech savvy than the right, but cry foul when the newspapers in this nation go down the crapper.
Look at it logically people...400 guys print and transport a news story that is printed on TREE PULP!!!!
How inefficient is that???!!!!
Sorry, but the newspaper as we know it, thrown on our porch in the wee hours is DEAD.
Beam it to me on the net , on my palm pilot, my pda or my cell phone.
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Posted by: hbw on Mar 29, 2006 10:04 AM
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If Secretary Rumsfeld makes a statement that is objectively false but makes good copy, his fans in the blogosphere will bounce it off the ol' right-wing echo chamber, and by gawd, when enough of them repeat it, it will gain all the "truthiness" it needs for the major media to take notice.
Even progressive bloggers (even on AlterNet!) can be deceived into echoing stories if their BS detectors aren't finely tuned. There was a recent case of that whose details have escaped me; maybe one of you can dredge it up.
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Posted by: dvmorris on Nov 9, 2006 7:34 PM
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The internet hasn't really hurt papers as much as you may think. One thing that you may want to research further is how the content and quality of the papers has lead to their decline more than anything. The internet is an easy excuse. Remember how people said television would kill radio? The internet isn't killing newspapers. They are killing themselves.
Many of the failing papers throughout America take very clear political sides. Many take liberal stances, and some take very conservative stances. The American public doesn't like this approach. Take the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review for instance. It has lost over 30% of its circulation in two years! Its headlines after that election in Pennsylvania stunk of sour grapes because the conservatives it so dearly loves were defeated. It's rival, the Pittsburgh Post Gazette leans heavily liberal, and it is losing circulation about as fast.
This problem isn't isolated to print. Fox is eating CNN for lunch. CNN is a mouthpiece for liberals, and Americans don't like their media or politics to go to far one way or the other. Americans wanted balance in government. Hence the outcome of the recent election.
Like casting votes, people are "voting" not to read many newspapers. I have been around many newspaper executives, and they are too egotistical to ever admit that they are the problem.
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Posted by: ScottP on Mar 23, 2006 1:02 PM
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I do hope the Communications Workers succeed in taking control of some papers, and follow up by making them true sources of important information. In the meantime, I'll continue my boycott of TV, and continue to read anything from the MSM with the skepticism it deserves.
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Posted by: Louisa on Mar 23, 2006 1:39 PM
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And as far as opinion-mongering goes, what is it that you do again precisely?
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Posted by: bettsoff on Mar 23, 2006 4:53 PM
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Posted by: farhada on Mar 24, 2006 4:41 AM
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The news in most European news papers is still alive and well worth reading. It is the US media that is falling into the info-tainment the same way TV and radio news went long time ago.
It is about money, and when they receive money to broadcast garbage, they will do it, and as long as the public pay for it, they will receive more garbage.
One good example of comparing the news in the US and outside is the book by Lisa Finnegan: "No Questions Asked", she looked into the fall of the US media (both paper and broadcast) in the aftermath of the 9/11.
You can find the highlight of the book at:
http://www.noquesitonsasked.org
And her latest articles at:
http://www.noquestionsasked.org/blog.htm
Best regards,
/Farhad
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Posted by: Bobsays on Mar 24, 2006 4:42 AM
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Many newsrooms gave way to ding-dongification. They would pack the paper with poorly paid interns and babes in skirts - all watched over by bearded, alcoholic, belicose, pot-bellied old perverts. It wasn't a formula for relevance and future success. The cull of newspapers will be brutal and necessary. I think entrepreneurs should start funnelling their money into web-based news as fast as possible so that these sites can hire real talent.
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Posted by: farhada on Mar 24, 2006 4:43 AM
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The news in most European news papers is still alive and well worth reading. It is the US media that is falling into the info-tainment the same way TV and radio news went long time ago.
It is about money, and when they receive money to broadcast garbage, they will do it, and as long as the public pay for it, they will receive more garbage.
One good example of comparing the news in the US and outside is the book by Lisa Finnegan: "No Questions Asked", she looked into the fall of the US media (both paper and broadcast) in the aftermath of the 9/11.
You can find the highlight of the book at:
http://www.noquesitonsasked.org
And her latest articles at:
http://www.noquestionsasked.org/blog.htm
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Posted by: Nez46 on Mar 24, 2006 4:47 AM
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Perhaps you can enlist the good doctor’s help in getting your head out of your behind on this one.
While I would agree that many bloggers are indeed rumormongers, I would add that they also seem to be playing an ever-increasing role in forcing the mainstream media to acknowledge and report on stories that otherwise would never see the ink of pen.
Furthermore, newspaper reporting is filled with subtle biases and you, of all people, should recognize this is a major problem, since you often spend time clarifying information we're given by them.
I love ya Moll, but leave the bloggers alone and focus on your own kind before trying to clean up an area that many of us in mainstream America are turning to more and more frequently for real the news of the day.
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Posted by: Alladin on Mar 24, 2006 6:06 AM
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Posted by: AlienSlave on Mar 24, 2006 6:13 AM
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Posted by: rickcreswell@yahoo.com on Mar 24, 2006 8:04 AM
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Truth will always be hard work but I do wish the present newspaper and TV system would die.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 24, 2006 11:18 AM
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Good journalism takes well-educated people given a fair amount of time and a good editor. It costs money. Lots of money, especially TV. It's so much easier to to do the print version of 'rip 'n read' from the AP wire. It's also much cheaper.
Take your local paper of choice and count the number of stories in the news section. Now tally up how many are from the wire services. Unless you are reading something like the New York Times you will see that the overwhelming majority come from the AP and other wire services.
What's wrong with that? Instead of having multiple reporters from multiple newspapers investigating and writing on a subject, what we get is the same story written by one reporter in 400 newspapers.The few places that all of the large media cover themselves have a herd that is expertly handled and spoon fed by the press officers and PR people. The White House Press Room is a prime example of this.
You cannot cover agriculture from the USDA HQ, the military from the Pentagon, the economy from the Treasury Department, etc. What happens there is all political soap opera. You cover issues at the source.
If I want to cover the effects of US Forest Service policy I need to get out of D.C. All I'll get there is the party line. I need to go out to the National Forests and talk to the people in the field, people in the local communities around the Forests, people in environmental groups, people who make their living from the Forest, etc. See the difference?
It takes patience, legwork, research, travel, money and time. Just like homemade cookies, the end result is so much better than the assembly line version. It serves the public, keeps the government accountable and makes for great reading. It's called real journalism.
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Posted by: allthingslucid on Mar 24, 2006 11:31 AM
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Utter BS! Opinions don't require expertise in anything other than what you believe in which in this case is your OPINION.
Opinions MAY be influential if the source of the opinion is coming from someone who has direct experience on the matter at hand. But there are no requirements to be able to have an opinion on anything.
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Posted by: allthingslucid on Mar 24, 2006 11:35 AM
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Utter BS! Opinions don't require expertise in anything other than what you believe in which in this case is your OPINION.
Opinions MAY be influential if the source of the opinion is coming from someone who has direct experience on the matter at hand. But there are no requirements to be able to have an opinion on anything.
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Posted by: dus7 on Mar 24, 2006 5:04 PM
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I totally disagree. Increasing numbers of stories and additional information on current stories are being broken to the public by bloggers. It doesn't make sense to dump on bloggers because newspapers are having corporate and editorial difficulties. The Internet is self-regulating - those who write garbage or irrational invective are either not read or are slapped down. This is the ultimate democracy, that my voice as well as yours and anybody's can be heard. And yes, the voices of the people are worth hearing. We are not (necessarily) inexperienced, semi-literate, or uninformed. It's our sons in Iraq and our dollars that are supporting absolutely everything that's going on. I say Hooray for every blogger. We don't expect thanks, but we're beginning to demand some respect.
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Posted by: Kajamian on Mar 24, 2006 5:47 PM
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Granted, Molly. In fact that's all they started out to be. Most Bloggers are not only without size or interest -- how about time and money? How many bloggers make their living at it? Even those dedicated enough to do a lot of research on a topic are generally limited to the Internet. Even if they want to spend their time and money on phone calls, how many can get through to the decision makers and newsmakers?
Even so, they provide another voice. Lord knows we need it. Only pray that those who read can also reason. Scientists and engineers aren't the only thing we're not producing in our schools these days.
Here in Oregon, our State Supreme Court recently said the State couldn't control billboards along the highway -- violation of free speech. Now instead of using a permit system, owners just have to conform to size and setback requirements. Of course, that may mean the state loses it's federal highway monies because it will probably be violating federal laws...but what's a few potholes?
Guess who's cheering at the decision -- and stands to profit big time. How about Clear Channel! Those wonderous providers of long-distance canned entertainment. Now they not only own a sizeable number of the radio stations in the local area -- they bought out local companies until they own about 90% of the billboards. Thought control anyone?
It used to be the world was getting smaller -- now it's just the part we're able to see. Now I can't even read some of the editorials from NYT linked in articles because I'd have to pay for them. Reruns of "Elimadate" anyone?
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Posted by: kelly.nickell on Mar 25, 2006 11:33 AM
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I will always gain simple truths in a long term relationship with a subjective Molly monologue, and very little from a subjective one night stand on a five car pileup.
Once upon a time, the front page of the paper was where we put objective stories. If you could discover the stand of the reporter through the words of the story, that reporter could be labeled a hack, because those words that projected opinion belonged on another page; the op-ed. If you want to find your way onto the op-ed, you have to serve your time reporting objective truth, before you can really have an opinion about it, subjective, objective or otherwise.
Now, we have this rising tide of subjective truth, built from the ground up because we all know quite well what is wrong with the world, from point zero. Objectivity is gone because subjectivity said it was. I for one don't buy that. If you want me to consider your opinion, you will be required to give me a certain amount of objectivity in your descriptions of the world back to me. If, at the age of 21 you have found all that is wrong with the world, and it is liberal idealism, it reveals that you have spent very little time considering objectively what is going on around you. If on the other hand you admit that the jury is still out, that there are battles to be fought in support of basic truths, then when have something we can discuss. Subjective?
The liberal media myth kind of found it's way out of the barber's chair and into the mainstream, via a mass blurring of the line between objective and subjective; Exposure of corruption on the front page, and opinions on it's origins from the op-ed. The line between news, and opinion, and what goes where, has three key elements and an influential forth. This is composed of the traditionally liberal reporter and contacts, the traditionally conservative media owners and friends, the editors hugging the stripe balancing one against the other, and that forth, the letters to the editor written from the reading masses. The letters are the only real way for a dialogue to take place. As American society falls further into the economic bliss that it promises in dreams, it forces a certain amount of that dialogue out of the equation of traditional avenues and into the new realm of an all encompassing, real-time dialogue between the blogging masses – the letters to the editor, and the old style media outlets that have become more beholden to cash than truth.
Capitalism forces a privately owned media outlet to move away from objective truth; logically, no other outcome can occur, unless the masses are disciplined enough on their own to sweat out the horrors of real world events, digest them, and act accordingly. Since most of us cannot deal with the day to day horrors of our own lives very well, we take refuge in the fluffy softness of comforting subjective news so that we’ll return, and buy more of what they’re selling. Market capitalism running unchecked leads more of the masses into subjective truths to support their lives, and the continued hunt for subjective truth to support our individual pursuits that run counter to our objective truths. This gives rise to increasing amounts of forced fracture in our ideologies. Some break out of that and adhere to their core quest for basic truths, while others embrace the core quest for relative truths in their own journeys through life. Making a dollar, chasing a dollar, or analyzing it all ends up being the greatest challenge any of us as U.S. citizens will undergo in this journey, the rest is gravy.
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Posted by: kfl on Mar 25, 2006 12:24 PM
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During this time there were some incredible writers on staff (two different newspapers). One staff walked out en masse when told that they could NOT print a story the newspaper owner objected to. The story DID get printed!
Another writer i'll never forget slogged through woods and swamps to get a critical story and expose a uranium mining operation taking place covertly.
These people were gutsy. As the years went by most all of them left the profession. Corporate mergers began demanding what Molly articulates in this thoughtful piece.
Perhaps in Europe, as one poster stated, good journalism is still evident. It certainly isn't here. My local newspaper is biased AND slated, the percentage of advertising to editorial far greater than i remember.
Newspapers as advertising vehicles is outmoded and dated. I wonder when (or if) they'll get a clue?
karen
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Posted by: sgtmartin1 on Mar 25, 2006 2:33 PM
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And it's just getting worse (a bit o' media satire).
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Posted by: thesaurusrex on Mar 25, 2006 5:44 PM
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There is not much hope for optimism. The following is from the McClatchy's Minneapolis paper, the Star Tribune:
"Union says it's shut out of bidding for Knight Ridder papers
The Newspaper Guild says McClatchy won't give it the data it needs to make a bid for 12 Knight Ridder dailies."
Read it at
http://www.startribune.com/535/story/329499.html
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Posted by: krose on Mar 26, 2006 4:03 PM
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AND TURN TO EACHOTHER FOR THE "REAL" NEWS! And we will continue to blog, and blog, and blog, and blog..........
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Posted by: beausoleil on Mar 27, 2006 9:31 AM
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Posted by: ng1944 on Mar 28, 2006 5:46 AM
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we would be much better if whole media just disapear
instantly.
It long became just a tool of government disinformation
machine
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Posted by: klaus_in_ohio on Mar 28, 2006 2:41 PM
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The left likes to think of themselves as more tech savvy than the right, but cry foul when the newspapers in this nation go down the crapper.
Look at it logically people...400 guys print and transport a news story that is printed on TREE PULP!!!!
How inefficient is that???!!!!
Sorry, but the newspaper as we know it, thrown on our porch in the wee hours is DEAD.
Beam it to me on the net , on my palm pilot, my pda or my cell phone.
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Posted by: klaus_in_ohio on Mar 28, 2006 2:43 PM
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The left likes to think of themselves as more tech savvy than the right, but cry foul when the newspapers in this nation go down the crapper.
Look at it logically people...400 guys print and transport a news story that is printed on TREE PULP!!!!
How inefficient is that???!!!!
Sorry, but the newspaper as we know it, thrown on our porch in the wee hours is DEAD.
Beam it to me on the net , on my palm pilot, my pda or my cell phone.
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Posted by: hbw on Mar 29, 2006 10:04 AM
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If Secretary Rumsfeld makes a statement that is objectively false but makes good copy, his fans in the blogosphere will bounce it off the ol' right-wing echo chamber, and by gawd, when enough of them repeat it, it will gain all the "truthiness" it needs for the major media to take notice.
Even progressive bloggers (even on AlterNet!) can be deceived into echoing stories if their BS detectors aren't finely tuned. There was a recent case of that whose details have escaped me; maybe one of you can dredge it up.
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Posted by: dvmorris on Nov 9, 2006 7:34 PM
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The internet hasn't really hurt papers as much as you may think. One thing that you may want to research further is how the content and quality of the papers has lead to their decline more than anything. The internet is an easy excuse. Remember how people said television would kill radio? The internet isn't killing newspapers. They are killing themselves.
Many of the failing papers throughout America take very clear political sides. Many take liberal stances, and some take very conservative stances. The American public doesn't like this approach. Take the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review for instance. It has lost over 30% of its circulation in two years! Its headlines after that election in Pennsylvania stunk of sour grapes because the conservatives it so dearly loves were defeated. It's rival, the Pittsburgh Post Gazette leans heavily liberal, and it is losing circulation about as fast.
This problem isn't isolated to print. Fox is eating CNN for lunch. CNN is a mouthpiece for liberals, and Americans don't like their media or politics to go to far one way or the other. Americans wanted balance in government. Hence the outcome of the recent election.
Like casting votes, people are "voting" not to read many newspapers. I have been around many newspaper executives, and they are too egotistical to ever admit that they are the problem.
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