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Lapham's Case for Impeachment
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In 1999 Bill Clinton was acquitted by a vote of the full Senate after being impeached over lying about an extramarital affair.
Today George W. Bush sits apparently shielded from accountability by loyal and unified Republican control of the House and Senate. Bush, who deceived this nation into a catastrophic war and has admitted domestic wiretaps without warrants in clear violation of federal law, has seemed invulnerable to even the possibility of impeachment.
Is the tide finally beginning to turn?
Lewis Lapham, editor of Harper's Magazine for nearly 30 years, wrote a cover essay for the March issue of the magazine that makes a strong and well-reasoned case for the impeachment of George W. Bush. Lapham has recently shifted roles, becoming editor emeritus so that he can devote himself to editing Lapham's Quarterly, a new journal about history, while continuing to write his monthly column for Harper's.
TERRENCE MCNALLY: I had to go to four newsstands to buy a copy of the March issue of Harper's. The first three were sold out. I assume it's because of the red sleeve attached to the cover with the words "IMPEACH HIM" in large bold letters. Why did you write this now?
LEWIS LAPHAM: In late December I came across a report that had been assembled by congressman John Conyers of Michigan which lays out much of this case. He had begun to assemble a report a year ago in May, before the discovery of the Bush administration's use of the NSA to impose electronic surveillance on American citizens.
TM: So before what seems most clearly to be a violation of federal law?
LL: Right. Conyers held a series of hearings last summer on what are known as the Downing Street Minutes, a series of memoranda that were exchanged back and forth within the British government in the spring and summer of 2002, between its officials in London and its representatives in Washington. It becomes very clear in the correspondence that the Bush administration is determined to go to war in Iraq no matter what the facts are. And it's clear that there are no weapons of mass destruction, that there is no connection between Saddam and Al Qaida, that Saddam is not in any kind of a position to pose a threat -- certainly to the United States or probably not even to any of the countries in the Middle East.
The British intelligence people are saying to each other that Washington is determined to invade, and they're going to fix the facts to fit their wish. There had been suspicions and rumors of this for two or three years, but here it was in print. The memoranda were not rejected or contradicted by the British government. Conyers held a hearing, and then sent a letter to the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon signed by 130 members of the House of Representatives.
TM: I'll bet most people think Conyers was out there alone. One hundred thirty people signed this letter?
LL: It could be 120 or 124, but it was a substantial number, and it was backed by signatures from 500,000 American citizens acquired over the internet. The petition to the administration sought answers to questions. This is what has been said -- what do you have to say about it? And of course there was a stonewall; there was no answer whatever.
Reacting to that, Conyers then set out with his staff to find out what could be learned from open sources -- press, books, congressional testimony -- to establish that a criminal fraud was perpetrated on the American people and on the American Congress in going to war. When he released the report -- 182 pages with 1,100 footnotes -- there was no mention at all in any of the mainstream press. As far as the New York Times, Washington Post, the networks and so forth were concerned, it never happened.
I called Conyers' office and asked if they could send a copy. I read it, and it seemed to me an impressive piece of work, at least worth being discussed and given broader circulation. I wrote the essay in somewhat the same spirit that Conyers had presented the report, which was to at least ask the questions.
I said to Conyers, look, you've got no chance of getting an impeachment motion going in the House of Representatives, which is controlled with an iron fist by the Republican majority.
TM: Whereas, in the case of Nixon, there were Republicans like Howard Baker, not the lockstep partisanship that we face today.
LL: Exactly. Subsequent to writing the essay, I came across George Washington's farewell address. In it, he says that we in the United States must be very vigilant against the despotism likely to be imposed by one party on the other. Our government only works with a balance of power between the judiciary, the legislative and the executive.
TM: Some wise people I've interviewed have pointed out that while we were one of the first to institute this sort of democracy, it doesn't mean ours is the best form. Many other countries have learned from our model and have instituted proportional representation, parliamentary elections and so on. Here, short of impeachment, a president is assured of four years, so checks and balances become all the more important.
LL: And I think that is a weakness in our system and a strength in some of the European systems, where you can have a vote of no confidence.
TM: At this moment -- after Katrina, the release of the illegal wiretap information, and 34 percent approval ratings and 70 percent against the war -- you would call an election.
LL: Yes.
TM: I suspect this despotic reign may be reinforced by both John Roberts and Samuel Alito with their interpretations of a "unitary executive" and a more imperial presidency.
LL: That's entirely possible. We don't know yet, but I think that's a pretty fair supposition.
People tend to forget that we have three branches of government, and that it is the constitutional task of the Congress to assert its power to correct the imbalance of power when it gets out of hand, which it now clearly has. For Congress not to do this is an abdication of their responsibilities.
Let's go back to the '70s. There were Republicans, Baker among them, who knew that it was their duty to act as senators and not simply as representatives of a political party. When you mention branches of government to people these days, they're apt to think you mean Democrat and Republican.
There was greater political consciousness during the impeachment proceedings against Nixon because the country was emerging from a poorly conceived war in Vietnam, a very clear demonstration of what happens when the government in Washington acts in secret.
TM: Though not as assertive as they might have been, Congress did at critical moments stand up to Johnson and to Nixon.
LL: They did. We've lost some of that backbone over the last 30 years. There's been a softening of the American political will and energy within both parties.
TM: Finally, given the political calculus we've just been talking about, you do not see impeachment as likely -- what's your best-case scenario when this kind of information gets out into the general public?
LL: I hope for a gradual raising of the political consciousness. You now see Sen. Russell Feingold suggesting a motion to censure of the president for his actions with regard to electronic surveillance. A motion to censure is preliminary to a motion to impeach. So you have more people talking about it, and you have more people trying to understand the constitutional crisis and what's at risk.
What's at risk is our constitutional system of government. More people need to understand that. They also need to understand their power as citizens. More people need to remember these people work for us.
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Posted by: wli on Mar 21, 2006 1:18 AM
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Representative democracy in the US now is nothing more than a façade, a public relations exercise, a legitimation and assent ritual. This is what must be rectified, not the "establishment's" specific choice of a figurehead.
The process of rectification must occur almost entirely outside the electoral arena. The bureaucracy, the corporatocracy, and the military-industrial and prison-industrial complex is where the competition for institutional control must be carried out. Those places are where the scripts for putatively elected representatives are written, and so where activity must take place.
To exercise power, one must acquire power. To acquire power, one must understand from where it's derived. You will get nowhere by writing letters to your Congressman's wastebasket or by holding up signs in the street so stormtroopers can gun you down more easily.
If you want to work on something, work to become a general, a CEO of a megacorporation, a billionaire, a CIA director, an FBI director, or a National Security Council member. From such vantagepoints you can exercise influence. From ghettos, grassroots movements COINTELPRO'd into nothingness, and the graves the Pentagon puts people in for speaking openly, one can do nothing.
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Posted by: Germanicus on Mar 21, 2006 4:10 AM
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We must apply pressure on our elected representatives, to make them understand that we are not going to send them back to Washington unless and until they vote to impeach the President and ideally the Vice-President. And we must encourage our friends and neighbors to do the same. If they fail - if we fail in our duty to country, then the over 200 years we have spent striving toward the ideal we call liberty will have been in vain. Then all the soldiers in all the wars, the current one included, who gave their lives for their country will have died in vain.
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Posted by: farhada on Mar 21, 2006 4:50 AM
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Is there a possibility to impeach the whol administration? And with what support? How many key members of the democratic party are actually strong enough to support the impeachment?
With the current political system in the US, and with the current leadership of your country, there is no room for such activities except in the mind of some individuals and smaller organizations.
Maybe I am wrong (I hope I am), but I don't see any lights out of this darkness.
Cheers,
/Farhad
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LL: They did. We've lost some of that backbone over the last 30 years. There's been a softening of the American political will and energy within both parties."
I hate to break up this congress-is-afraid-of-the-executive branch party, but may I remind everyone that congress impeached Clinton a mere 8 years ago? And many, if not most of those who impeached him are still there?
Where is Lieberman's cry for morality and the rule of law? Where is all the republican indignation about lying to the American people?
Is it me, or are we in bizarro world? Feel free to get angry at congress for ignoring important issues of power, but PLEASE don't pretend that it has something to do with the "era" we're in!Political will has NOT softened, as we saw 8 years ago. What has softened is ETHICS.
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Posted by: Stonecutter on Mar 21, 2006 7:29 AM
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Together, these perverse world views and the absence of any bold resistance have coalesced into a mutant strain of hyper-partisanship that has further vanquished any progressive countervoice, including the mandate of rational Republican politicians and ordinary citizens during the Watergate investigation, people who rose above their political party to see the crimes being committed in their names, and the destructive effect such crimes had on our country.
As for the opposition, you have Senator Feinstein calling for "competent" war (as Norman Solomon recently asked, what does it mean to fight this preemptive war "right"?); Senator Kerry being photo-op'd smiling broadly at Bush in the White House. without regard for the disheartening impact this might have on the millions of former supporters who may not be quick to appreciate the cozy image or its implication for revealing Kerry's true status-quo colors after 20+ years in the Senate "Club"; Senator Schumer betraying the campaign of Paul Hackett in Ohio, an RFK-style insurgent Democratic candidate, a Marine officer with Iraq combat experience who called Bush a "chickenhawk" among other blunt assessments, by coercing Hackett into withdrawing before the primary in favor of a weaker political hack that was blessed by the Ohio party machine, thereby depriving the voters of the chance to select their own guy in a free election (this is "Democratic"?)
These and numerous other examples demonstrate the obvious capitulation of the bogus "opposition" party to the consolidated power of the Republican monolith. Indeed, many respected analysts are drawling little distinction any more between the inside-the-beltway players of both parties, seeing no fault lines, only cosmetic differences in spin or propoganda designed to snow the citizenry and maintain incumbency.
Like a festering boil on one's ass that must be lanced before healing, the puss of this administration and it's virulent policies on all matters of concern to thoughtful, fair-minded Americans, who want to see a resurrection of sanity and rationality, that "puss" must be drained.
Respect for science and scientists, international cooperation motivated by the realization of critical global climate change and it's implications for all life on earth, diplomacy conducted by trained and experienced professionals, not incompetent, politically-appointed ideologues, the withdrawal of fanatical, triumphalist religious belief back to the realm of private life and private decision-making where it belongs, and away from the commonwealth, where it has become a malignant tumor on the country's brain---these and other essential changes in direction must happen before we can see any real hope for the restoration of checks and balances, and some semblance of democracy in the U.S.
Perhaps we've gone too far and it's too late. Even now, we're surgically divided in beliefs, ideas and culture to the point where some regions of states, and even whole state's, seem more like foreign countries--or other planets--than parts of the same unified nation.
I'm reminded of the banner blowing in the wind in the final scene of the Cold War chestnut "On the Beach", about the end of the world through MAD--mutually assured destruction by nuclear war. After all the streets are deserted, and all the human beings gone, the sign reads "There is Still Time, Brother". Not much.
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Posted by: Doubtom on Mar 21, 2006 8:34 AM
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The Republicans control not only both houses of Congress but the Executive branch as well as the Judicial branch. And even if he should get impeached and tried by the Senate, Bush would still benefit from the clever machinations of the presiding officer of that Senate trial, Chief Justice Roberts, who owes Bush for his lofty position. Some would call that good planning.
Given the above, along with the Republican control of the media, impeachment seems a most unlikely event; but Lapham giving voice to the many calls for impeachment, at least forestalls the very real descent into despair that is sure to produce, that which we'd all be wise to fear, an outright revolution.
Regardless of how complacent the citizenry is seen to be, an eternal truth is that you can only push anyone so far.
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IT'S OVER! There's no going back. The only question is what will emerge from the rubble when the shit really hits the fan. Most of the members of Congress, especially the Senate, live in another world, totally disconnected from the real lives of ordinary folks, who are a majority, a majority with only a handful of spokespersons in that corrupt body.
I like John O'Hara's words, "America may be unique in being a country which has leapt from barbarism to decadence without touching civilization."
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No reform to put the people in control will be possible until the people are in control. A Catch 22. No third party can put the people in control until the people are in control. Anotherr Catch 22.
The way for people to take control of both parties and the government is with a grassroots movement. A grassroots movement works outside of the party system.
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Furthermore, I know it probably wouldn't do any good to try and impeach this slime that's been in power for the last five years. But, still, I'd like to see the SHOW. I'd like to see the bile released from behind the dam of secrecy these sociopaths have lived behind while they've ruined this country. It would be a catharic closure and an enlightening example for people who 'voted their morals' in the last election. Perhaps it would convince them that 'their' morals may not be the best thing for a nation that is, indeed, a melting pot.
I'll continue to stand behind Sen. Conyers, Sen. Feingold and Sen. Murtha if for no other reason than this: They had the balls to say what they thought when everyone else was cowering to the bullies. And, as to Harpers Magazine, hats off to you, gentlemen, for showing the rest of the cowering swine that true journalism is still alive and well in America.
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Posted by: domenico234 on Mar 21, 2006 1:24 PM
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Here's MY vote: I have NO CONFIDENCE in this administration, and that's an understatement, to say the very least!
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Open Secrets
Of course, this is only part of the problem. You might also want to point out that electronic voting systems are inherently 'hackable' and should be banned entirely. Remember when we lived in a democratic country?
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See other blogs on Censure and Rights at:
http://blogs.positiveuniverse.com/archives/648
and a number of others on Feingold and why we need to back him up on Censure!
http://www.bordc.org
And keep watching here:
http://www.feingold.senate.gov
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Posted by: wli on Mar 21, 2006 1:18 AM
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Representative democracy in the US now is nothing more than a façade, a public relations exercise, a legitimation and assent ritual. This is what must be rectified, not the "establishment's" specific choice of a figurehead.
The process of rectification must occur almost entirely outside the electoral arena. The bureaucracy, the corporatocracy, and the military-industrial and prison-industrial complex is where the competition for institutional control must be carried out. Those places are where the scripts for putatively elected representatives are written, and so where activity must take place.
To exercise power, one must acquire power. To acquire power, one must understand from where it's derived. You will get nowhere by writing letters to your Congressman's wastebasket or by holding up signs in the street so stormtroopers can gun you down more easily.
If you want to work on something, work to become a general, a CEO of a megacorporation, a billionaire, a CIA director, an FBI director, or a National Security Council member. From such vantagepoints you can exercise influence. From ghettos, grassroots movements COINTELPRO'd into nothingness, and the graves the Pentagon puts people in for speaking openly, one can do nothing.
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» Yes
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» AND SOME NEED PURGING!!!!! LIKE THE MILITARY,FEMA, HOMELAND & CIA!!!!!
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We must apply pressure on our elected representatives, to make them understand that we are not going to send them back to Washington unless and until they vote to impeach the President and ideally the Vice-President. And we must encourage our friends and neighbors to do the same. If they fail - if we fail in our duty to country, then the over 200 years we have spent striving toward the ideal we call liberty will have been in vain. Then all the soldiers in all the wars, the current one included, who gave their lives for their country will have died in vain.
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Posted by: farhada on Mar 21, 2006 4:50 AM
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Is there a possibility to impeach the whol administration? And with what support? How many key members of the democratic party are actually strong enough to support the impeachment?
With the current political system in the US, and with the current leadership of your country, there is no room for such activities except in the mind of some individuals and smaller organizations.
Maybe I am wrong (I hope I am), but I don't see any lights out of this darkness.
Cheers,
/Farhad
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Posted by: Erik1968 on Mar 21, 2006 6:54 AM
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LL: They did. We've lost some of that backbone over the last 30 years. There's been a softening of the American political will and energy within both parties."
I hate to break up this congress-is-afraid-of-the-executive branch party, but may I remind everyone that congress impeached Clinton a mere 8 years ago? And many, if not most of those who impeached him are still there?
Where is Lieberman's cry for morality and the rule of law? Where is all the republican indignation about lying to the American people?
Is it me, or are we in bizarro world? Feel free to get angry at congress for ignoring important issues of power, but PLEASE don't pretend that it has something to do with the "era" we're in!Political will has NOT softened, as we saw 8 years ago. What has softened is ETHICS.
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Posted by: Stonecutter on Mar 21, 2006 7:29 AM
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Together, these perverse world views and the absence of any bold resistance have coalesced into a mutant strain of hyper-partisanship that has further vanquished any progressive countervoice, including the mandate of rational Republican politicians and ordinary citizens during the Watergate investigation, people who rose above their political party to see the crimes being committed in their names, and the destructive effect such crimes had on our country.
As for the opposition, you have Senator Feinstein calling for "competent" war (as Norman Solomon recently asked, what does it mean to fight this preemptive war "right"?); Senator Kerry being photo-op'd smiling broadly at Bush in the White House. without regard for the disheartening impact this might have on the millions of former supporters who may not be quick to appreciate the cozy image or its implication for revealing Kerry's true status-quo colors after 20+ years in the Senate "Club"; Senator Schumer betraying the campaign of Paul Hackett in Ohio, an RFK-style insurgent Democratic candidate, a Marine officer with Iraq combat experience who called Bush a "chickenhawk" among other blunt assessments, by coercing Hackett into withdrawing before the primary in favor of a weaker political hack that was blessed by the Ohio party machine, thereby depriving the voters of the chance to select their own guy in a free election (this is "Democratic"?)
These and numerous other examples demonstrate the obvious capitulation of the bogus "opposition" party to the consolidated power of the Republican monolith. Indeed, many respected analysts are drawling little distinction any more between the inside-the-beltway players of both parties, seeing no fault lines, only cosmetic differences in spin or propoganda designed to snow the citizenry and maintain incumbency.
Like a festering boil on one's ass that must be lanced before healing, the puss of this administration and it's virulent policies on all matters of concern to thoughtful, fair-minded Americans, who want to see a resurrection of sanity and rationality, that "puss" must be drained.
Respect for science and scientists, international cooperation motivated by the realization of critical global climate change and it's implications for all life on earth, diplomacy conducted by trained and experienced professionals, not incompetent, politically-appointed ideologues, the withdrawal of fanatical, triumphalist religious belief back to the realm of private life and private decision-making where it belongs, and away from the commonwealth, where it has become a malignant tumor on the country's brain---these and other essential changes in direction must happen before we can see any real hope for the restoration of checks and balances, and some semblance of democracy in the U.S.
Perhaps we've gone too far and it's too late. Even now, we're surgically divided in beliefs, ideas and culture to the point where some regions of states, and even whole state's, seem more like foreign countries--or other planets--than parts of the same unified nation.
I'm reminded of the banner blowing in the wind in the final scene of the Cold War chestnut "On the Beach", about the end of the world through MAD--mutually assured destruction by nuclear war. After all the streets are deserted, and all the human beings gone, the sign reads "There is Still Time, Brother". Not much.
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Posted by: Doubtom on Mar 21, 2006 8:34 AM
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The Republicans control not only both houses of Congress but the Executive branch as well as the Judicial branch. And even if he should get impeached and tried by the Senate, Bush would still benefit from the clever machinations of the presiding officer of that Senate trial, Chief Justice Roberts, who owes Bush for his lofty position. Some would call that good planning.
Given the above, along with the Republican control of the media, impeachment seems a most unlikely event; but Lapham giving voice to the many calls for impeachment, at least forestalls the very real descent into despair that is sure to produce, that which we'd all be wise to fear, an outright revolution.
Regardless of how complacent the citizenry is seen to be, an eternal truth is that you can only push anyone so far.
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Posted by: cottontail on Mar 21, 2006 8:51 AM
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IT'S OVER! There's no going back. The only question is what will emerge from the rubble when the shit really hits the fan. Most of the members of Congress, especially the Senate, live in another world, totally disconnected from the real lives of ordinary folks, who are a majority, a majority with only a handful of spokespersons in that corrupt body.
I like John O'Hara's words, "America may be unique in being a country which has leapt from barbarism to decadence without touching civilization."
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on Mar 21, 2006 10:59 AM
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No reform to put the people in control will be possible until the people are in control. A Catch 22. No third party can put the people in control until the people are in control. Anotherr Catch 22.
The way for people to take control of both parties and the government is with a grassroots movement. A grassroots movement works outside of the party system.
Now is the time to force a showdown. Now before the election while our votes still have power. Join the Lincoln Initiative We are a grassroots movement with no leaders, no organization, no registration, and no contributions. Find out where to attack and how to do it. Make "government of the people, by the people. and for the people", a reality. Click on Join Us Today
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Posted by: The critic on Mar 21, 2006 12:43 PM
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Posted by: domenico234 on Mar 21, 2006 1:11 PM
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Posted by: gonzoskismet on Mar 21, 2006 1:18 PM
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Furthermore, I know it probably wouldn't do any good to try and impeach this slime that's been in power for the last five years. But, still, I'd like to see the SHOW. I'd like to see the bile released from behind the dam of secrecy these sociopaths have lived behind while they've ruined this country. It would be a catharic closure and an enlightening example for people who 'voted their morals' in the last election. Perhaps it would convince them that 'their' morals may not be the best thing for a nation that is, indeed, a melting pot.
I'll continue to stand behind Sen. Conyers, Sen. Feingold and Sen. Murtha if for no other reason than this: They had the balls to say what they thought when everyone else was cowering to the bullies. And, as to Harpers Magazine, hats off to you, gentlemen, for showing the rest of the cowering swine that true journalism is still alive and well in America.
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Posted by: domenico234 on Mar 21, 2006 1:24 PM
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Here's MY vote: I have NO CONFIDENCE in this administration, and that's an understatement, to say the very least!
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on Mar 21, 2006 3:35 PM
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Open Secrets
Of course, this is only part of the problem. You might also want to point out that electronic voting systems are inherently 'hackable' and should be banned entirely. Remember when we lived in a democratic country?
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Posted by: Ringwind on Mar 22, 2006 12:07 PM
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Posted by: newlease7 on Mar 22, 2006 11:34 PM
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See other blogs on Censure and Rights at:
http://blogs.positiveuniverse.com/archives/648
and a number of others on Feingold and why we need to back him up on Censure!
http://www.bordc.org
And keep watching here:
http://www.feingold.senate.gov
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