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Infected Planet

By Stan Cox, AlterNet. Posted March 21, 2006.


Modern human plagues like bird flu aren't the result of mysterious forces. Whether we mean to or not, we bring them on ourselves.
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When Michael Crichton's first novel, "The Andromeda Strain," was published in 1969, it was scary but also strangely reassuring. If some new disease were to threaten humanity with a deadly pandemic, it seemed, the microbe responsible would come from another planet. The march of medical progress appeared to have terrestrial germs on the run.

Twenty-five years later, when Laurie Garrett published her nonfiction bestseller, "The Coming Plague," people were waking up to the fact that our own abused planet is perfectly capable of spawning a steady stream of new diseases without any help from alien worlds.

Today, old familiar scourges like tuberculosis, malaria, measles, and diarrhea -- and a newer one, AIDS -- are the world's biggest killers, but they've been joined by a host of newcomers. Indeed, one could get the impression that each year brings a new disease. That's because it does.

Mark Woolhouse, chair of Infectious Disease Epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh, has counted 38 new pathogens (disease-causing biological agents) that have moved into the human population from other animal species in just the past 25 years. In a presentation at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science last month, Woolhouse noted that we're under assault not only from those novel species, but also from new genetic variants of pathogens that have been with us for a long time.

A recent tally identified 1,415 disease-causing microbes in humans, including bacteria, viruses, fungi and parasitic worms. We share fully 61 percent of those pathogens with other animal species. Of the total, 175 cause "emerging diseases" -- ones not known until recently in humans. Of those, 75 percent came out of other animals to invade Homo sapiens.

The impact of species-jumping pathogens varies. Hendra virus moved from fruit bats to horses in 1994 and is known to have killed a total of only three people. Since the 1970s, the Ebola virus has incited some horrifying outbreaks that, so far, have failed to blow up into epidemics. Influenza viruses usually cause a lower mortality rate but hit far more people; currently, an H5N1 "bird flu" strain threatens to break that pattern by staging an encore of the 1918-19 killer flu pandemic that killed 50 million to 100 million people. HIV/AIDS is both chronically widespread and deadly, now accounting for almost a fourth of infectious disease deaths.

But have "emerging" species-jumping diseases actually been with us for millenia, identified only when medical research achieves sufficient precision in detecting and identifying microbes? Durland Fish, professor at the Yale School of Public Health, says that better research is part of it, but there still appears to be a faster rate of disease appearance these days. He told me, "Dr. Woolhouse makes an interesting point: that 'emerging disease' is a new concept but a very old process. Humans have always acquired new diseases." We're being hit more frequently today than in previous eras, he says, partly because "transportation, trade, human population growth, and environmental change are going on at unprecedented rates."

They don't show up uninvited

Scientists have seen associations between human activites, which have burgeoned in the past quarter century, and diseases that gained prominence during those same years. Some examples:

The chances of the potentially catastrophic flu virus H5N1, and others like it, emerging from interaction between wild birds, domestic animals and people may have been enhanced by loss of natural wetlands in southern China. That has led infected migratory birds to alight more often on farms and other populated areas. There, they come into contact with denser populations of chickens, ducks and pigs destined to satisfy an increasing rate of animal-protein consumption per person.

Ticks transfer the bacterium that causes Lyme disease from infected mice and deer to people. First described in New England in the 1970s, Lyme disease is now a chronic problem in parts of the United States. Reforestation in eastern states, but by a less diverse ecosystem than the one that was destroyed during original white settlement two to three centuries ago, has brought large populations of deer, mice and ticks into much closer contact with suburb-dwelling humans.


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Modern Human Plague
Posted by: greentime on Mar 21, 2006 3:30 AM   
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We are, to this planet, exactly that; a modern human plague.

Fun creatures though we may be, creative, spiritual, and curious, we are the ones plaguing the planet.

We now recognize our beginings as a small band roaming out of Africa some 2000 generations ago. What we don't fully realize is the extent of our success as a species. Or should we say, excess?

We are voracious feeders and hard users of the environment. We are highly successful breeders as well. So is it any wonder that our inability to evolve soon enough to save ourselves (and earth) has set the planet's organisms in a race to limit us?

We have acted upon this garden and each other as if it is "us or them" and now the earth's organisms are stepping up the game. Can we learn to limit ourselves?

Are we so enamored of ourselves that we have only one choice - to replicate ourselves ad-infinitum? Can we think beyond ourselves to include others? Other people, other species, the environment(s)? Do we need a big sales campaign to convince us to buy brand healthy earth instead of brand end of life as we know it?

We have reached the edge of every continent and body of water and we are so busy super sizing ourselves and taking our big grab and big gulp of every resource that we don't even look at the trail of destruction we leave in our own wake.

Now we only have to turn around and look back at the trails we made because they are now the road ahead. These are the same trails we must travel now on the return trip. We now know we are all related - great. Maybe that will make us rethink nuclear aniliation. Now we know we need a healthy planet. Maybe that will make us rethink who we are to the rest of life on earth.

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» RE: Modern Human Plague Posted by: alterme
» RE: Modern Human Plague Posted by: greentime
in terms of ecology
Posted by: mwildfire on Mar 21, 2006 4:13 AM   
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It seems to me that if we set aside our natural attachment to our own species and look at this thing dispassionately, we see that a pandemic is not only inevitable but probably desirable. Any species that takes over huge amounts of terrain, mulitplying beyond previous constraints, becomes an inviting niche--sooner or later something will come along to exploit it and balance will be reestablished.
It is not possible for the human race to continue expanding until there are fifteen billion of us, using up every bit of Sol's energy bounty after exterminating all competing species. An Earth with fifteen billion humans and nothing else is not a viable ecosystem. We've already gone beyond the carrying capacity of the Earth, and our numbers will fall drastically and soon. It could happen through warfare--conventional, nuclear or biological. Or it could be a natural or engineered plague. The latter is much the most desirable, because it would have the least impact on other species--and because it's at least somewhat democratic (like everything else, plague hits the poor harder--but no one is safe, and there could actually be advantages to not being coddled). It would also tend to eliminate the weakest among us, restoring some of the selective pressures we have missed for a long time now.
Okay, fine--theoretically, we could solve this problem rationally and without a massive die-off. We could: 1-- suddenly, drastically and universally reduce our population to one child per woman; 2--eliminate meat-eating which creates a lot of the ecological hazards described above, is an inefficient use of agricultural resources and has an enormous environmental impact; 3--stop wasting our resources on warfare and use them instead to clean up poverty, create universal public health, get rid of nuclear and biological weapons stocks, and convert to a renewable energy economy. If we could do all that in an unprecedented burst of collective rationality, we could probably avert the "coming plague." Anyone want to take bets on that happening?

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Human Host Resistance Understudied
Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 21, 2006 4:23 AM   
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Excellent comprehensive essay by Stan Cox on delicate balance between health of planet and rise of human infectious disease.

Key paragraphs is " When people crowd into high-density cities, sprawling slums and hospitals; consume insufficient or bad food and polluted water; travel widely and often; ship vast quantities of products worldwide; make sex an industry; damage their immune systems by disease, chemotherapy, transplant-facilitating drugs or environmental toxins; or are plunged into the chaos of war, the pathogen has a much bigger field of play"

My opinion is the biggest mistake that the contemporary infectious disease western medical speciality has made is failure to sufficiently study human host resistance factors like the impact of population density and enviromental degradation. These reductionists are so busy with their reductionistic microscopes trying to understand and deconstruct the organisms they largely ignore the "macroscopic" issues of great concern noted in this excellent essay.

Dr. Rick Lippin
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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» There's too many of us... Posted by: lionhead
» RE: THINNING THE HUMAN HERD-OUCH! Posted by: drricklippin
Bugs' Planet
Posted by: Sparks56 on Mar 21, 2006 4:34 AM   
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We exist on this planet at the pleasure of the bugs. So said Stephan Jay Gould. Mr. Gould also said that the jury is still out on whether or not "intelligence" is an evolutionary advantage. So far, all our "intelligent" desease prevention and cures has done is promote the evolution of germs resistant to our efforts. We cannot win this race.
Malthas was right. Sooner or later, one way or another, human population will be reduced to a number that is tolerable to the organism we live on; planet Earth.

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seeds of extinction
Posted by: rsaxto on Mar 21, 2006 4:45 AM   
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We are creating the seeds of our own extinction by our overpopulation and overconsumption and faulty recycling. Doing the right thing today is far removed from what the right thing was thousands of years ago. We are living in the faulty towers of construction, destruction and mental addiction to ancient mores many of which are obsolete or time inappropriate. We need leadership that uses science and technology to survive and thrive instead of leadership that encourages mass destruction of environments and peoples. We need a revolution in living instead of creating the skills that encourage mass death through disease and war.

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Luise Light, Ed.D.
Posted by: lu on Mar 21, 2006 5:27 AM   
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The headlong, heedless rush to globalization has created a "free marketplace" of food that is unregulated and subject only to competitive forces between the top corporate members of the global food cartel. It has led to the synthetic plagues of pathogen-infected foods, such as E.coli, Mad Cow and now Bird Flu. Industrial breeding, feeding, containment and slaughtering of food animals have created these global pandemics, and overprocessed, de-nutrified, denatured, packaged foods have weakened our immune systems and made us more vulnerable to them.

We need to wake up to the realization that food and water are fundamental to the health and survival of human beings on earth. They are too vital to life to be abandoned to amoral market forces. Unless we wish to self-destruct, we must re-assert control over these unbridled corporations and remind them that they will be held responsible for the health and safety of the products they bring to market.

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» There's too many of us... Posted by: lionhead
» I thank you for this! Posted by: greentime
die off
Posted by: karyse on Mar 21, 2006 5:58 AM   
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I can't remember the details, but I remember reading a study years ago about rats (or was it mice) that were put in "overpopulation" conditions. Strange behavior started occuring, including the mothers eathing their own children, mayhem, and "murder."

The planet has its own way of protecting itself, and even though we are murdering each other in great numbers, apparently its not at a fast enough rate to suit the universe.

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It's just scare tactics
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Mar 21, 2006 6:31 AM   
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They know terrorism isn't frightening enough people into giving away their rights so maybe all this talk of a pandemic will.

Normal flu kills thousands every year.

Is it any wonder there's all this hyperinflated talk of bird flu pandemic and people like Rumsfeld are making millions off a flu vaccine that doesn't even work? It's just another disgusting scam.

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Density
Posted by: dankorn on Mar 21, 2006 7:00 AM   
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The article seems to be having it both ways on density and urbanization. It says:

When people crowd into high-density cities, sprawling slums and hospitals... the pathogen has a much bigger field of play.

But then it says:

...deer, mice and ticks into much closer contact with suburb-dwelling humans.

and

...encroachment into forests and the resulting increased contact with other primate species...

and

Destruction of forest habitat in Asia has driven several species of fruit bats infected with Nipah virus into increasing contact with pigs and humans...

Taking all these statements together, it seems that the benefits of isolating human populations in cities seem to outweigh the "benefits" of reduced-density suburbs and sprawl. In fact, I would argue that density, along with controlled population growth, is the key to our future survival. It's necessary if we're going to minimize our impact on the environment. Otherwise, we're forced to consume ever-more resources just to get around in our daily lives.

But other than a vague reference to hypermobility, "travel[ing] widely and often," the article seems to mostly overlook the factors that transportation choices play in the destruction of our planet's ecosystem. In fact, the one word that's strangely left out of this article is "automobiles." The closest it gets to talking about our over-dependence on these machines is this quote:

(One also wonders why we're importing used tires.)

Let's talk more about how automobile dependence factors into all this, as a primary cause of many of the other factors listed in the article, including global warming, air and water pollution, and war. I submit that cars are a bigger, and faster-growing, part of the problem than overuse of antibiotics, eating meat or even overpopulation.

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Germ of an idea
Posted by: Roverton on Mar 21, 2006 7:01 AM   
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Well, at least it's not like we are producing germ weapons and releasing them on our own.

That would be stupid, and humans are too smart for that.

Right?

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Why?
Posted by: Steve Adair on Mar 21, 2006 7:17 AM   
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I read articles like this in progressive magazines and on progressive websites. In most cases they point to a world I would like to have my grandchildren inherit rather than the world I’m sending them into now. But, the largest barrier to change seems to be progressives themselves. There are multiple progressive political groups, and large numbers of progressive periodicals and websites who seem to compete with each other for adherents; but no meaningful attempt is being made to create a unified and powerful movement.

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Same Old ...
Posted by: DaftAida on Mar 21, 2006 7:28 AM   
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Articles like these are a deadly virus in themselves - well spoken iconaclast! The entire environmental movement is a scam, a ruse. It is not us, the general mass of mankind who are responsible for environmental damage and one need look no further than research laboratories in the military to discover the source of plagues or illness. In UK, we have Porton Down which produces an appetising menu of anthrax, plague, Spanish Flu and, no doubt Avian (wrongly designated 'bird') Flu which is flying low in an aeroplane near you. You can be proud that AIDS was developed on American soil paid for with your money and your lives. In addition, our immune systems are bombarded with deadly vaccines from cradle to grave. Another Pandemic will enable Bush to declare enforced vaccinations containing the killer virus and Martial Law. A gem of a quote which should provide a glimmer of insight into the whole environmental affair:

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill ... all these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviours tht they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself" Alexander King Founder of The Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution.

Just another brilliant idea folks from those guys who've raided your taxes, stolen your Government and have finally convinced you that you might just as well allow them to continue the cull, because you are stupid and worthless. Why don't you just load the gun, pull the trigger and beat them to it, whilst you still have firearms before FEMA confiscate them.They've certainly succeeded in changing attitudes and behaviours, haven't they? Meanwhile, they continue to profit from plundering Earth's resources and making billions whilst making us feel guilty for a crime we have not committed. Consider what living might possibly be like without these parasitical, useless entities leaching our lives? I can only imagine but it sure looks good.

WAKE UP AMERICA, you don't have time for this any more. Would the author of this article and all the brainwashed greenies colluding with this erroneous and suicidal view please take a group enema to clear their perceptions.

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Widely thought
Posted by: kathat on Mar 21, 2006 8:40 AM   
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I think AIDS was spread to humans in the polio vaccines , when infected monkeys were used. The evidence is huge- I can't take anything seriously that you say when you make a statement like ' more contact with primates' might be the reason...come on!!!!!

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We are consuming the Earth's biology 20% faster than it can replace it.
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 21, 2006 8:47 AM   
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Don't blame the environmentalists. Read "Collapse" where smaller and more localized versions of human extinction are documented. Disease is one aspect of the bigger picture.

Our species has labored for centuries to be able to comprehend the big picture. Only to deny what what's there?

DaftIda ought to be DenyIda. Overpopulation and it's dire consequences ain't going away, folks. Wishing ain't enough.

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Bird flu? A modern human plague?
Posted by: garyinthailand on Mar 21, 2006 9:25 AM   
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Your article is interesting, but I can't believe you describe bird flu as "a modern human plague". I see on Boomberg that the 100th human casualty worldwide just came in, what, 2-3 years into this thing? My guess would be that the common cold took at least as many people away in that time.

Maybe bird flu will break out someday and become an actual human plague. But the signs are thin on the ground. So far, it's an avian epidemic that in rare cases infects humans.

I understand why neocons and pharmaceutical companies want to sell us a bill of goods, but I'm dismayed when the 'progressive' press chimes in on such a transparent piece of panic-mongering.

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» RE: not just bird flu Posted by: ethanay
With any luck...
Posted by: chasaturn on Mar 21, 2006 10:33 AM   
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...somebody will leave a hot zone contaminated and we'll all die. Whee!

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Chicken Little - Old and New .
Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Mar 21, 2006 11:04 AM   
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The OLD Chicken Little Story: Chicken Little is hit on the head with an acorn ... "The sky is falling the sky is falling we must tell the King" ... the barnyard follows Chicken Little right into Reynard Fox's lair -- everyone gets eaten by the fox. Moral: "consider the source, examine the facts."

The DISNEY Version: the sky IS falling. Moral: "You just never KNOW -- be afraid."

Yet ... as we see in this thread ... any agenda that can't be advanced by an appeal to fear of TERRORISTS can be advanced by an appeal to fear of PLAGUE.

In this case Tamiflu sales increased by 1/3 this season, not counting various governments' stockpile purchases. More people got their influenza vaccines this year than ever before.

And, oh yes, a certain amount of resources were thown into 'pandemic' planning -- which can't be a BAD thing, after all.

Yet, the Avaian H5N1 Flu is an agricultural pest. There are very good reasons (if you believe the mechanics of evolution work the way the biologists say they do) why it will REMAIN a bird-killer and leave people alone.

Why I don't get is why 'our' Enviros and Foodies have to jump on the Frear Bandwagon along with Big Pharama.

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Goerge Carlin Would Love This Thread
Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 21, 2006 1:51 PM   
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Carlin knows no bounds when he does comedic riffs on human catastrophes! He calims he "loves them". But of course his remarks are "entertainment". I enjoy them in a perverse guilty way- I admit it! But I go home from his shows-get sober and start working on real solutions to VERY serious problems :)

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» To keep from crying. Posted by: Sojourner
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Stop the World I wanna Get Off!
Posted by: macdon1 on Mar 21, 2006 2:41 PM   
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Sometimes I am thankful I am an old lady and will out of here soon. People are just not willing to inconvenience themselves one tiny bit. Even to save the planet. I never owned a car and managed to get to work. When I was a kid in Indiana we grew almost everything we ate without pesticides and recycled on the compost pile. What we didn't grow we bought from the farmer and canned our own stuff. Where I live now I grow stuff without chemical fertilizers or pesticides and in my second year, the natural balance of good and bad bugs has been almost completely restored. Not only does gardening provide great stuff for me and my neighbors and feeds the spirit with natural beauty, but it also helps restore balance in an overdeveloped world.

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Why doesn't the author mention Gilead & Rumsfeld?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 21, 2006 6:27 PM   
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This is an interesting article, except that bird flu is definitely not a 'modern human plague'! It is a health scare drummed up by the Bush Administration to justify a multibillion-dollar giveaway to two Big Pharma groups - Roche and Gilead- for purchase of 'Tamiflu' - an anti-viral medication patented by Gilead and exclusively licensed to Roche, which 'may or may not' be of any value in treating flu viruses. Gilead was headed by Rumsfeld from 1997 to 2001 - a time period during which Gilead sued Roche for not aggressively marketing Tamiflu!

Sure, bad human policy leads to the spread of disease - as in the 1918 spanish swine flu, whose spread was greatly exacerbated by WWI hospitals and poor hygiene. Stopping a bioterror attack or an epidemic relies on having a trained and well-supported medical staff and a good public health system including lots of emergency rooms and contingency plans. There is plenty of historical precedent here to work off of (witness the campaign against polio). Given the abysmal government response to Katrina, I seriously doubt whether they are prepared for any epidemic.

It makes me wonder if someone is trying to justify yet another Bush-era corporate ripoff of the American public as a 'justified response to a modern human plague'. Keep in mind, this 'bird flu' could have 'jumped species' a hundred years ago, or a hundred years from now - viruses can do that kind of thing, after all. As an 'imminent public threat' it is just another Bush cabal scare tactic, and a profitable one at that (Gilead jumped from $35 to $47 a share after all this).

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crowding
Posted by: Gregor on Mar 21, 2006 6:50 PM   
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working in schools all you see are young bodies trying to grow and also fighting off untold diseases in the process. Children are exhausted from that process alone along with sports, studying all hours until the wee hours of the night, up early, no rest, bad nutrition as mom's and dad's work and sacrifice just to keep a roof over their heads. Kids bring home illness, parents carry it to the workplace. And believe me it spreads quickly. The hardest hit are the very young who have new immune systems. They end up in the hopsital more often than not. Very few stay home with their kids. Stress, lack of sleep, poor nutrition. We have a stupid, self-destructive society.

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right wing eugenicists, poverty, and squalor
Posted by: wli on Mar 21, 2006 7:31 PM   
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The primary cause of disease outbreaks is poverty and squalor. Most all of the diseases causing large-scale infection and death are preventable, curable, and ancient. The causes are largely the same as Third World famines: poverty and deprivation create unsanitary living conditions, which then lead to disease outbreaks. For instance, the massive outbreak of cholera in South Africa (250K infected IIRC) was a direct consequence of water privatization. Garden variety diarrhea is a major cause of child mortality in the Third World. Leprosy runs rampant despite being perfectly curable.

Various national security documents (NSSM 200, Global 2000) and right-wing officials have pushed the eugenical line. Witness Kissinger's "Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries." More directly eugenical, witness Roger Pearson's advocacy of eugenics and also acting as frontman for the far right-wing Heritage Foundation.

To understand why this is viewed as desirable by the right wing, one must recall the racist and eugenical heritage of the right wing in conjunction with the disparate impact of the right-wing economic policies. The disparate impact is quite intentional and furthermore a motivator for them. Nixon is even on record describing the War on Drugs as having an intentionally disparate impact on blacks and that effect as beneficial for his purposes. After all, what is the "Southern Strategy?"

As far as the First World and bird flu and other such shams go, it's a total fraud. Ordinary flu kills off tens of thousands annually with zero fanfare. Diabetes, heart problems, etc. likewise. Car crashes are even more fearful. First World standards of hygiene simply preclude most diseases and pandemics, and those that remain take a far higher toll than any about which pandemic scares have been fomented by the mainstream media. And the pattern remains constant despite such, as the toll from those diseases is primarily among the impoverished elderly, who are doubtless viewed by the right wing as parasites on the Social Security dole.

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Nothing new under the sun..
Posted by: KatieOpinion on Mar 28, 2006 3:59 PM   
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The Bible has predicted this mess would happen thousands of years ago. The good news is we all have a way out of this hell our mistakes have created! His name is Jesus. For God SO loved the world that he gave his only SON to pay for our sins. ANYONE who believes in his heart this is true will be saved from every horrible and vile thing this world has become. I am a Christian and I am a progressive. Jesus teaches us to live everyday in love. That is about as progressive as you can get! Check out www.joycemeyer.com if you want more info about enjoying everyday life, despite all the horrible things you read about everyday!

With love,
Katie

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Like fleas from a dog...
Posted by: Artemis3 on Apr 6, 2006 12:35 PM   
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It's only a matter of time before the Earth shakes humanity off her beautiful back like a dog shakes off fleas. Human beings are the worst parasite this planet has ever seen. We overconsume, overbreed, and overpollute. The crash is coming; it's inevitable.

I decided a long time ago to not have children and add to the population. I live very simply and only use what I need. I look around at all the folks that are part of the cult of child worship, as if all that matters is bringing forth fruit from your loins, and nothing else.

I lament the loss of animal and plant species; the rain forests, the once-unlimited bounty of the oceans. We have ruined it all, and the earth will take her own back. It's happening now.

And as for being a Christian and liberal? That seems like an oxymoron to me, since Christians believe in the dominion of mankind over the earth; that the earth is there for our use. We will be learning a hard lesson, and soon!

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