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Rachel Corrie: Too Hot for New York

By Philip Weiss, The Nation. Posted March 18, 2006.


Why has a New York theater company backed off from producing a celebrated play about the moral awakening of a young American activist?

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The slim book that was suddenly the most controversial work in the West in early March was not easy to find in the United States. Amazon said it wasn't available till April. The Strand bookstore didn't have it either. You could order it on Amazon-UK, but it would be a week getting here. I finally found an author in Michigan who kindly photocopied the British book and overnighted it to me; but to be on the safe side, I visited an activist's apartment on Eighth Avenue on the promise that I could take her much-in-demand copy to the lobby for half an hour. In the elevator, I flipped it open to a random passage:

I can't cool boiling waters in Russia. I can't be Picasso. I can't be Jesus. I can't save the planet single-handedly. I can wash dishes.

The book is the play My Name Is Rachel Corrie. Composed from the journal entries and e-mails of the 23-year-old from Washington State who was crushed to death in Gaza three years ago under a bulldozer operated by the Israeli army, the play had two successful runs in London last year and then became a cause celebre after a progressive New York theater company decided to postpone its American premiere indefinitely out of concern for the sensitivities of (unnamed) Jewish groups unsettled by Hamas's victory in the Palestinian elections.

When the English producers denounced the decision by the New York Theatre Workshop as "censorship" and withdrew the show, even the mainstream media could not ignore the implications. Why is it that the eloquent words of an American radical could not be heard in this country -- not, that is, without what the Workshop had called "contextualizing," framing the play with political discussions, maybe even mounting a companion piece that would somehow "mollify" the Jewish community?

"The impact of this decision is enormous -- it is bigger than Rachel and bigger than this play," Cindy Corrie, Rachel's mother, said. "There was something about this play that made them feel so vulnerable. I saw in the Workshop's schedule a lesbian play. Will they use the same approach? Will they go to the segment of the community that would ardently oppose that?"

In this way, Corrie's words appear to have had more impact than her death. The House bill calling for a U.S. investigation of her killing died in committee, with only seventy-eight votes and little media attention. But the naked admission by a left-leaning cultural outlet that it would subordinate its own artistic judgment to pro-Israel views has served as a smoking gun for those who have tried to press the discussion in this country of Palestinian human rights.

Indeed, the admission was so shocking and embarrassing that the Workshop quickly tried to hedge and retreat from its statements. But the damage was done; people were asking questions that had been consigned to the fringe: How can the West condemn the Islamic world for not accepting Muhammad cartoons when a Western writer who speaks out on behalf of Palestinians is silenced? And why is it that Europe and Israel itself have a healthier debate over Palestinian human rights than we can have here?

The death of a writer

When she died on March 16, 2003, Rachel Corrie had been in the Middle East for fifty days as a member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), a group recruiting Westerners to serve as "human shields" against Israeli aggression -- including the policy of bulldozing Palestinian houses to create a wider no man's land between Egypt and then-occupied Gaza. Corrie was crushed to death when she stood in front of a bulldozer that was proceeding toward a Palestinian pharmacist's house. By witnesses' accounts, Corrie, wearing a bright orange vest, was clearly visible to the bulldozer's driver. An Israeli army investigation held no one accountable.

Corrie's horrifying death was a landmark event: It linked Palestinian suffering to the American progressive movement. And it was immediately politicized. Pro-Israel voices sought to smear Corrie as a servant of terrorists. They said that the Israeli army was merely trying to block tunnels through which weapons were brought from Egypt into the occupied territories -- thereby denying that Corrie had died as the result of indiscriminate destruction. Hateful e-mails were everywhere. "Rachel Corrie won't get 72 virgins but she got what she wanted," said one.

Few knew that Corrie had been a dedicated writer. "I decided to be an artist and a writer," she had written in a journal, describing her awakening, "and I didn't give a shit if I was mediocre and I didn't give a shit if I starved to death and I didn't give a shit if my whole damn high school turned and pointed and laughed in my face."

Corrie's family felt it most urgent to get her words out to the world. The family posted several of her last e-mails on the ISM website (and they were printed in full by the London Guardian). These pieces were electrifying. They revealed a passionate and poetical woman who had long been attracted to idealistic causes and had put aside her work with the mentally ill and environmental causes in the Pacific Northwest to take up a pressing concern, Palestinian human rights. Thousands responded to the Corries, including a representative of the Royal Court Theatre in Sloane Square, London, who asked if the theater could use Rachel's words in a production -- and, oh, are there more writings? Cindy Corrie could do little more than sit and drink tea. She had family tell the Royal Court, Give us time.


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Life imitates art?
Posted by: Ed Lammers on Mar 18, 2006 1:05 AM   
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Wonderful article reporting this yet-another manifestation of the right-wing's control over everything including our thought processes and artistic expressions. In a rare public arena, this dispute illustrates the age-old conundrum of life imitating art or vice-versa. Since the time I was old enough to think about it, it has puzzled and troubled me that this is a political discussion we can not even have, i.e. the continued military and unbelievable level of financial support of Israel's state sponsored terrorism against its neighbors. Would that any politician had the courage of Rachel and demonstrate that on the floor of our Congress. How can we be against the Holocaust and for other equally obvious inhumanities? I personally believe that if we cut off aid to Israel, then middle-east and Arab terrorism directed at us would dry up, oh and get our dumb militaristic ass out of there.

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» RE: Life imitates art? Posted by: mortart
» RE: Life imitates art? Posted by: Tedrmurrow
» RE: Life imitates art? Posted by: Zampan0
» "Zionist" "Pro-Israel" Posted by: Evan Derkacz
» RE: "Zionist" "Pro-Israel" Posted by: mythbuster
Rachel Corrie was not a prop for the right wing!
Posted by: jnc306 on Mar 18, 2006 5:02 AM   
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You notice how the right wing are against abortion or against pulling the plug on the brain dead. Why would they not be up in arms about Rachel Corries death? Because it would not help them. And how is it that Israel has so much influence over our country? I think I know why Hilliary is kissing up to them. But why the rest? Do they have that much power? Why? You would think that the opposition to Israel would know how to organize like they do. Copy everything they do. But I say the same thing about the Democrats too. Why don't they fight the repubics the same way? Also, the only talking head that I have any respect for is Keith Obermann. I hope that he has some of these anti abortion blond repubiclan women on. He can ask them point blank if they have sex out of wedlock, if they use birth control etc. What would they do if raped and inpregnated, and found that the baby would be totally deformed etc. What would they do? Would they keep it? Raise it themselves? Since their rich, they probably would have someone else take care of it. I wonder what Nancy Reagans day was like. Do you think she ever wiped his bu__? I am sure they will lie though. But then, maybe Keith could follow up and ask if the guest could sign an oath that they would never ever get an abortion, unless their life was in jeopardy. My guess is they won't sign, because even if they did, these low lifes have enough money and connections to do it on the sly. Sort of like the fat radio guy who hates druggies but gets his house keeper to get drugs for him. Although some repubics, I think, signed oaths not to run for reelection again, but changed their minds.

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:-(
Posted by: rolfen on Mar 18, 2006 5:26 AM   
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Who cares about politics. This is an horrible death and I cannot express my feelings.

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» Spanky: You refute yourself. Posted by: mythbuster
» RE: Spanky: You refute yourself. Posted by: Tedrmurrow
» RE: Spanky: You refute yourself. Posted by: Tedrmurrow
» RE: Spanky: You refute yourself. Posted by: Tedrmurrow
Rachel Corrie
Posted by: domenico234 on Mar 18, 2006 5:33 AM   
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Beautifully written, heart-breaking article.

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Stephen McArthur
Posted by: Stephen McArthur on Mar 18, 2006 5:39 AM   
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Part of the problem with discussions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the jabberwocky of anti-Israel propaganda. If we are against the Holocaust, then how can we be for the Jewish holocaust against the Palestinians? It is this use of utterly incomparable historical events that obfuscates and blurs the facts and realities about a conflict that in no way resembles the slaughter of 6 million Jews by Nazism. The Zionism equals Nazism comparison eradicates whole centuries of history and huge events of recent history that have served to make this conflict much more complex than the simple jargon of knee-jerk leftist critiques can ever hope to convey.

Using Rachel Corrie as a tool and cat's paw in an anti-Israel propaganda war does not serve Rachel's main purpose in what she did and spoke about- namely, working for peace.

Simplistic views about the Middle East, whether it is Iraq or Israel is what has gotten us into trouble. The left deserves more thoughtful, disciplined analysis than these wornout mantras.

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» You misread it entirely Posted by: brunowe
» No, this was not misread Posted by: peritonlogon
» RE: Stephen McArthur Posted by: msluderitz
» RE: Stephen McArthur Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: Stephen McArthur Posted by: YogiBear
The bit about the American Jewish community is wrong.
Posted by: wli on Mar 18, 2006 5:42 AM   
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The American Jewish community does not blindly support Israel. The powerful lobbies mentioned are not representative of majority opinion, and even a fair chunk of Israelis disagree with their own government's policies, not that you'll ever hear that anywhere.

Of course, once you're stuck explaining that there's a difference between disagreeing with the Israeli government's policies and straw men about dismantling the country of Israel or anti-Semitism, you're at an immense disadvantage, and have lost the argument except in rare arenas of rational debate. This is essentially why all rational discussion about Israeli government policies are doomed, not to mention anything that even touches on them.

I've written trying to rationally discuss anything about Israel off as hopeless, and I have a notion there are more important things to worry about. For instance, there appears to be an international criminal syndicate that's taken over a large fraction of Western governments through their intelligence agencies, including the US' and various NATO members' (c.f. Gladio and Rollback).

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Gosh, golly, gee, you make it sound as if there's a war going on.
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 18, 2006 6:48 AM   
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One cannot get in the middle of someone else's war without taking sides, and that means participating in the war.

The Workshop has lost its opportunity to be heroic, unlike the Royal Theater. Most of us pass up opportunities to be heroic everyday. Rachel Corrie didn't. So she has something to teach us.

My personal experience was that when I was being attacked, maliciously, by American Nazis, it was only the Jews who understood this Christian's plight. I fought back through the courts and won-lost. Yeah, I got a favorable judgment, and that upped the attacks. Not leaning to the heroic, I upped and moved.

As one who was willing to step on toes and pay the price, I do not advocate that others do the same. "Let's you and him fight" is the mark of a sickness.

I found no easy answers, even while I've always been looking for them

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» We've always been here. Posted by: Sojourner
Memory Eternal!
Posted by: eastcoker on Mar 18, 2006 8:16 AM   
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Rachel Corrie is my sister in arms. What a shining example of humanitarian activism. I am glad her story has not been forgotten. May this play go around the globe.

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» RE: Memory Eternal! Posted by: Doubtom
» AGREE 10,000% eastcoker Posted by: Michiganman
» Hi michiganman! Posted by: eastcoker
Let us Grieve Out Loud
Posted by: the islander on Mar 18, 2006 8:42 AM   
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Let us grieve out loud and let that be our praise of Rachel Corrie.

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» My grief for 'victims of Islam' Posted by: peritonlogon
'Nuff said!
Posted by: Voicedude on Mar 18, 2006 9:25 AM   
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Who cares about politics. This is an horrible death and I cannot express my feelings.

Actually, I think your cute emoticon says it all!

lol

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KILLING RACHEL CORRIE TWICE
Posted by: meddaddy on Mar 18, 2006 9:41 AM   
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Why was the play about Rachel Corrie in NY cancelled, I thought Netenyahoo
said in congress they hate us because of our "FREEDOM".
Our masters are pushing the envelope too much.
I urge people to gather self courage to read Rachel's Emails arranged by date
untill the day she was crushed by israeli soldiers, they are out there on the internet.
here is a glimpse if you dare, but then a gain it is easier to watch fox news hypnotizers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story
/0,2763,916299,00.html

Today israeli soldiers killed a 10 year old palestinain girl,
think of how many palestinian Rachels have to die before we get de-hypnotized

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» Thanks for the link! Posted by: peritonlogon
Oh that liberal media...
Posted by: Asses of Evil on Mar 18, 2006 10:01 AM   
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Yup, that liberal media just hits the right wing again and again. They just can't get a fair shake. Oh that liberal liberal media is just sooooooo......liberal. Geez. This story is chilling. You know that if you did follow the money, at some point (fairly early on the money trail) you'd be stonewalled. Dreadful. Well Rachel, you are not forgotten.

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Juliet Wittman
Posted by: juliet on Mar 18, 2006 10:08 AM   
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Hanan Ashrawi was invited to speak in Boulder, Colorado, in September, 2002, and several Jewish spokespeople tried (unsuccessfully) to block her visit. "PLO's former flack comes to Boulder" was the headline in the local weekly. These people insisted that they were not attempting to exclude the Palestinian point of view from public discourse; it was just that Ashrawi's visit was poorly timed--too close to the anniversary of September 11, right before Yom Kippur. Now I read that the community in New York doesn't intend to censor the Rachel Corrie story, but the timing is bad because of Sharon's illness and the Hamas election victory. As a Jew, it shames and infuriates me to hear such dishonest and manipulative reasoning, along with endless assertions of victimhood from those claiming to speak for the Jewish people. Anti-Semitism is a terrible and persistent virus in the bloodstream of the world. But to use it as an excuse to oppress another people is unconscionable.

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» RE: Juliet Wittman Posted by: qrswave
» RE: Juliet Wittman Posted by: ALANHESTER
» RE: Juliet Wittman Posted by: mythbuster
rover
Posted by: Roverton on Mar 18, 2006 11:29 AM   
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To alow a child to perish for any reason, whether State or Religion - is a profound madness. A trillion explanations will not undo that.

We've completely abandoned a generation of young humans.

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OK, lets all join hands...
Posted by: chasaturn on Mar 18, 2006 12:42 PM   
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...and pray that the good earth scours this human race from the planet. Just think, no more war, no more famine, no more lies, especially no more lies, no more corrupt CEOs, no corporations to reward them, and no more Republicans. I hardly think a single tree would mourn, nor any fish, birds, rocks, rivers, clouds and sky, nothing. That's what we have become. Nothing.

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» RE: OK, lets all join hands... Posted by: Asses of Evil
Mortart
Posted by: mortart on Mar 18, 2006 1:15 PM   
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I am an old-fashioned liberal who opposes the Iraq war and the bulk of the Bush Administration's economic and foreign policies. But I am puzzled that what you call the "progressive American movement" allies itself with the Israel-bashing "movement" and depicts Israel's efforts to survive in the face of a hostile Arab/Muslim world as evil while failing to condemn anti-Israel terrorism. As for the unfortunate Ms. Corrie, she was a naive idealistic young woman who was in over her head (as Mr. Bush is in the White House) while trying to do a good deed in a world she knew nothing about.
www.octogenarian.blogspot.com

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» AGREE 10,000% YOGI Posted by: Michiganman
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» Oh, Spanky... Posted by: chasaturn
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» What a load Mortart Posted by: Michiganman
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» Spec Ops...? Posted by: chasaturn
» the world's hurts Posted by: nedwylie
London Review of Books on Israel lobby
Posted by: Asses of Evil on Mar 18, 2006 2:40 PM   
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Just learned of this article via Informed Comment. Havent' finished it all and of course much of this is known, but it captures the size and scope of the US interest in promoting Israel at great cost to security, stability, and peace in the Middle East. When you read it, the travesty of nixing a play critical of Israel's behavior toward Palestinians is revealed in sharp relief.

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O Israel, A Blight onto all the Nations of the World
Posted by: pjrsullivan on Mar 18, 2006 2:53 PM   
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To understand why Israel was created in the first place one would need to go no further than the English terrorist Imperial motivations.

If there is such a thing as a concentration of evil within in this world, one would need go any further than London to find it.

The London based Anglo-Zionist terrorist network is still hoping that they can destroy us all with nuclear weapons before we all awaken to their hideous and evil intent for humanity.

The genocidal cannibal behavior that has moved with us through space and time, is embodied into the hearts and the minds of the Zionists. They are trapped within their "Animal Primitive" ways. Our destruction in a thermonuclear conflagration, is part of their ancient and self fulfilling prophecy "Armageddon, and will finally prove that they indeed are Superior to all of us.

What is somewhat revealing in the case of Rachel Corrie, the Zionists are aware that their poop stinks, and any thoughts about their simple predator behavior will unravel their supposed power structure. Mere discussion of the murder of Rachel, frightens them, much less a play about her life.

The control of the dialogue is what the Zionists understand as the key to whatever power they possess. Their plots to destroy humanity in a genocidal war of nuclear extermination, may send many of them to mental health clinics for treatment of their personality disorders that continue to menace the human race.

Their continuous nasty behavior combined with their continued attempts to exterminate the mass of the human race with nuclear weapons, will hopefully lead to their undoing, and hopefully it happens before they get these nukes exploding over our heads.

On the positive side, the Anglo-Zionist nuclear war criminals have been so, so bad, that they have brought the "Gods" from somewhere in outer space into our world. These "Gods" known usually a "ET" do not want us destroyed with nuclear weapons, and instead of selecting a new strategy, the Anglo-Zionist terrorist network have in affect told the "Gods" to go to hell, they have nuclear weapons and they are finally going to burn the human race up.

The "Gods" have clearly Damned and Condemned our nuclear war fighting criminal classes; they are found out and they, instead of the "Gods," must now go.

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» Spanky69 Posted by: theou
RE: Speaking truth to pwer
Posted by: Allison on Mar 18, 2006 3:56 PM   
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The Left celebrates the deaths of military members because those deaths hurt America; they move the American public against the war.

This idea is one of the most pernicious lies the Limbaughs and O'Reillys of your country have put forward. Nobody except the insurgents and terrorists are "celebrating" the deaths of US soldiers. Everybody I know feels every death in Iraq is awful - each dead person has a family and friends who suffer terribly whether they be from Iraq or the USA (or, indeed, the other countries who have lost a few there). Your claim is just a myth, a pure slander against the anti-war movement.

It’s so condescending when you tell me I only joined because I’m poor (I’m middle class), or I’m stupid (I graduated with honors from a state university).

Nobody's saying YOU joined for those reasons. But some do. The military is a great way to get a job and start a career and nobody faults people with limited opportunities from making that choice.

I joined because I love America.

The leftist movement and jihadi’s have one, the military and American people have another.

The two sides of your mouth are saying different things. The fact that you not only deny the patriotism but also the very citizenship of those who disagree with you politically actually DOES make me question if you understand what your military is supposed to protect. Not unquestioning loyalty to your country, but freedom and democracy. The freedom to disagree with YOU is included in that package, I'm afraid.

America isn't just a flag, it should be a lot of other things you just crapped all over. Even I can see this from above the 49th parallel.

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» RE: Speaking Truth to Allison Posted by: kelly.nickell
RE: Speaking truth to power...
Posted by: Captainmagic on Mar 18, 2006 4:16 PM   
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Peoples all around the world do love their children...no matter who they are no matter what language they speak...peoples cherish their children. They know that.....there are many stories to tell,....the truth is somewhere in the middle...and those that have lost there children are without and are grieving....Who takes their children, and for what purpose they have been taken for, should be a matter that is close to our hearts. Let us see and hear of Rachels words....Iraq is for Iraqs peoples.... the U.S. has destroyed much of it, but will ultimately be thrown out by the Iraq peoples...and you won't have to go and fight there for the sake of your children....I felt just as you feel and said mostly the same as you have written, a long time ago....... But then I grew up.

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"Speak Power to Truth" you mean.
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 18, 2006 5:33 PM   
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As a mercenary, whether you like it or not, you work for me. As a tax payer and citizen voter, what you are doing is supposed to be in my interest, as I am paying your way in Iraq. It's not in my interest.

No one is surprised to hear someone who's been trained by the military claiming that "He likes it. It's the way things ought to be." That's what you've been trained and paid to believe. If it happens to be sincere, I am glad that you will have to do what you are ordered to do, because there's nothing real about the world you apparently live in.

My people fought in WWII, in Korea, and in Vietnam. I can take you to their graves. When I told them that I was out in the streets protesting Vietnam, the ones who survived, said, "Keep it up. That's what we prayed for hunkered down in our fox holes."

I've never been in combat, so I do not judge those who are. And until you have been in combat, I suggest you have a lot to learn.

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WOW spanky get your gun...
Posted by: Michiganman on Mar 18, 2006 8:29 PM   
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and head on over to iraq. It always amazes me when coward armchair warriors applaude the death of our troops over an oil war, while they sit in their homes eating choco-poo.
pitiful

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» Good for you. Posted by: sausage
» So you were in Vietnam too? Posted by: sausage
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Are soldiers' opinions worth more?
Posted by: YogiBear on Mar 18, 2006 8:59 PM   
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Corrie wanted to stop an Israeli bulldozer from demolishing a tunnel Arabs used for smuggling explosives into Israel.

The Palestinian terrorists were using tunnels, but certainly not every house had a tunnel! The IDF was simply being pragmatic by bulldozing every residence within tunnelling distance. Perhaps you wouldn't mind if, in response to a home being used by drug dealing gangs on your street, the cops boarded up or tore down every house on the block.

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RE: Speaking truth to pwer
Posted by: Asses of Evil on Mar 18, 2006 9:31 PM   
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Wow, why are you here Spanky69 if you disrespect us so much?

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RE: Speaking truth to pwer
Posted by: cold2touch on Mar 18, 2006 9:34 PM   
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Oh, so you are a man of the truth but no power? Curled up in a fetal position inside your Bradley Fighting Vehicle while the mean, powerful Rachel Corrie stalks outside. So where is your truth when it comes to truthily supporting troops? Stand proud and salute cutbacks to VA treatment options because Halliburton's bottom line can't afford it. Just say, Yes to torture, to wholly unregulated spying on any and all "American citizens" that you proudly claim as being on your side, as opposed to "Lefties" who by your definition cannot be American citizens (Why, American citizens are only those who vote GOP). Ever read polls? If you did, you'd know that American Citizens of The Spanky Kind are down to 35% of the total. What else are you ready to piss on besides bodies of murdered kids, Constitution, yes? Just a goddam piece of paper, in words of your Commander In Chief. You are supporting the troops with your middle finger, Spanky the Halliburton mascot.

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RE: Spanky69 - censorship, that's what this article is about
Posted by: saywhat? on Mar 19, 2006 7:41 AM   
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with a name like spanky69 you think that you'd be more interested in porn sites, well keep up your good logic, but soon you'll have to change your name - your right wing friends won't like it - how about changing your name to "Pureinnocence?"

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RE: believing right-wing lies
Posted by: antiapathy on Mar 19, 2006 8:14 PM   
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do really believe these things? why are you reading and posting on alternet?
You obviously have no respect for human life. Please don't come back.

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RE: Speaking truth to pwer
Posted by: kelly.nickell on Mar 19, 2006 8:23 PM   
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Spanky, you need to be honest, destroying the tunnel seems to have been a secondary consideration.

If a group of Mexican soldiers drove a D-8 into southern Arizona and demolished a few houses in the process of looking around for a tunnel that is in California, do you think it would piss off
A. Arabs.
B. Lefties.
C. Mexicans.
D. Jews.
E. Bob Marley.
If a young girl is killed for having the nerve to dive under the tracks, do I
A. Shoot the bulldozer.
B. Shoot the girl.
C. Shoot the Lefties.
D. Shoot Everyone.
E. Piss on the bulldozer because it is really blue, not yellow.

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RE: Speaking truth to pwer
Posted by: demidesigrrl on Mar 20, 2006 1:07 AM   
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All I can say to the vile and violent dung you have been spewing on this thread, Spanky, is "uck".

The horrible death of Rachel Corrie has had the misfortune to bring a thousand people like you scurrying out of their comfortable holes to voice your anonymous hatred upon the Internet. I've seen it before... I can only say that I am still shaking my head over it. I really don't understand. Without trying to be patronizing, I guess I can only ascribe your utter lack of humanity to an abysmal ignorance that is founded upon a dearth of books and a surfeit of Fox News and other TV pablum. How very very sad, that people like you, by purporting to represent America, only reflect and magnify the utter contempt in which the rest of the world holds you.

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Not a Right Wing Thing
Posted by: BOR on Mar 18, 2006 5:26 PM   
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This issue goes well beyond the usual left - right political divide. Many "right-wingers" were and are very sympathetic to the Palestinian struggle and very appreciative of brave young people like Rachel Corrie, though we may differ with them on many other issues. Rush and Sean and O'Reilly do NOT speak for genuine, old-time conservatives, who detest the Iraq War, the hideous Bush administration, and the neo-conservative drive for constant warfare in the name of "democracy." It's easy for the right to bash the left and for the left to see the "right wing" behind everything they don't like. The reality is more complicated than that, and we all lose if we don't go beyond easy labels.

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link not working
Posted by: phindrup on Mar 18, 2006 6:13 PM   
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story
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this link is not working

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The land of the free?
Posted by: phindrup on Mar 18, 2006 6:46 PM   
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That a theatre in New York censors a play illustrates just how bad things have gotten in the US.
Israel at one time had both my sympathy, and respect. That was long years ago when I had friends who went of and did their 2 years on a kibbutz.
Over the last twenty years my sympathy has totally evaporated. The horrors of the Holocaust do not excuse the Jews their excesses against the Palestinians, it makes them so many times worse.
If a people who were brutally repressed cannot learn to emphasise with others who they are now oppressing, then they are bereft of all humanity.
The Palestinians are fighting their occupiers and oppressors. They fight with what little they have. Only those who believe that the Israelis have an absolute right to take whatever they fancy can see Palestinian resistance as ‘evil’.
Before those inclined to rush in with derogatory labels respond, in the area in which I lived, and was heavily involved in the community, for the past eleven years I was considered by many to be ‘an extreme right winger’.
I went to a meeting 400 kilometres up the coast and was afterward described by the district police commander as ‘a left wing trouble maker from the south’.
In both cases I was simply working to compel councils to operate within the law.

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She succeeded in her mission
Posted by: Shaman on Mar 18, 2006 11:06 PM   
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She came to protect the "paletsinian" terrorist and terrorist supporters by acting as human sheild. And thats exactly what she did.
She stood in front of a bulldozer to stop it, and she stopped it, the human sheild that she was. The fact that the sield was destroyed in the process is secondary.
Also, the fact that the bulldozer operator didn't notice her is of no importance at all.
I call on all her supporters to follow in her footsteps and go and serve as human shields . Take the bullets for them. They deserve you and you deserve to die for them.
The only problem is you will not go to heaven. Only Muslims can.

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The Israel Lobby strikes again
Posted by: sausage on Mar 19, 2006 6:20 AM   
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In a nation supposedly devoted to freedom of expression, when the voice of non-governmental commercial censorship thunders, whether it be threat of boycott by a special interest group or withholding of revenues by a well-heeled corporate sponsor, even the bravest non-profit organization quails, and like the whipped cur licks its master's hand. So New York City's Israel Lobby, with a raise of its eyebrow, has censored "My Name Is Rachel Corrie."

In the Prostituteocracy that is the United States, where gold in all its metophorical forms, from "charitable" donations to stock dividends, the mere threat of the withholding of funds from a theatrical group that survives on crumbs thrown its way by wealthy donors elicits the wanted chilling effect.

In this case it was powerful members of the Israel Lobby, in their guse as members of the greater Jewish community, threatening commerical censorial action. And, predictably, a New York Theatre Workshop pimp, i.e. marketing staffer, shit his pants, when faced with the merest hint of a