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Hard Times for Soft Drinks

By Michael Blanding, AlterNet. Posted March 13, 2006.


Soda has already been linked with weight gain and cavities; now the FDA admits that some popular soft drinks could contain a carcinogen. Will the fizz finally go flat?
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It could be nearing high noon for the soda industry. After years of repeated battering over the issues of childhood obesity and tooth decay, sugary beverages have suffered an unprecedented backlash. The New York Times reported last week that soft drink sales are down for the first time in 20 years, and sales of bottled water, juices and energy drinks are continuing to eat into the soda market.

Into this anti-carbonated climate comes a potentially bigger bombshell that could spell disaster for the industry. Last month, the FDA quietly revealed that some soft drinks were found to contain the human carcinogen benzene in levels up to 10-20 parts per billion (ppb) -- four times the acceptable limit found in drinking water. Benzene, a chemical linked to leukemia and other forms of cancer, forms in certain beverages under certain conditions, such as exposure to heat and light.

The agency immediately downplayed the risk, saying that such small amounts did not pose a significant danger to health. "Levels like that with benzene, our only concern would be lifetime consumption," says George Pauli, associate director of science and policy in the office of food additive safety.

While scientists and doctors disagree on how hazardous benzene is to human health, the Environmental Protection Agency requires public notification and alternative water supply for drinking water contaminated with levels of 5 ppb. Even "relatively short periods" of exposure at that level can "potentially cause … temporary nervous system disorders, immune system depression [and] anemia," according to the agency. A lifetime of exposure, says the EPA, can cause "chromosome aberrations [and] cancer."

The FDA has not set an acceptable level of benzene for beverages, arguing that the public consumes soft drinks and other beverages in far lower amounts than they do drinking water -- a contention that any parent of a teenager might find laughable. Younger children may have already had a lifetime of benzene consumption.

Almost as alarming as the existence of benzene in soft drinks is that the FDA knew about the problem for more than 15 years, yet never revealed it to the public or took adequate measures to fix it. Even the latest round of tests would not have been conducted if it weren't for documents posted on the internet late last year by an industry whistleblower named Larry Alibrandi. Those papers concern an undisclosed study at Cadbury-Schweppes in 1990 called Project Denver, which found that certain soft drinks, particularly diet orange-flavored sodas, had the tendency to form benzene when exposed to heat and light.

While the industry contends the problem was corrected in the most popular sodas, no public recall was done at the time. Judging from their ingredients, dozens of products now on the shelves could potentially have the same problem, including such popular brands as Sunny Delight, flavored Diet Pepsi and Fanta Orange. (The Environmental Working Group has posted a partial list of possibly risky products.)

"The question is, how much does this problem still exist today?" says Alibrandi, who is now head of American Quality Beverages, a small New York producer of health drinks. "We have hundreds of examples from the trade, and many of them could potentially be a problem. What's especially disconcerting is the products engineered for children, where it's a potentially bigger problem for them since their body mass is very small."

No recall

In November 1990, Alibrandi was working in product development at the Connecticut labs of the British company Cadbury-Schweppes, when he says he was called into his supervisor's office one morning. "He closed the door and had a very, very concerned look on his face," recounts Alibrandi. "He said that a carcinogen was found in beverages, and they were concerned because they didn't know what the source was." That same day, Alibrandi booked a flight to Florida to test samples in a special lab capable of exposing them to extremes of heat and light.

After several trials, Cadbury-Schweppes' chemists determined that the benzene was caused by a chemical reaction between the preservative sodium benzoate and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C). The effect was found to be especially prevalent in diet sodas, and shot up to even higher levels after products were subjected to extremes of heat and light. According to the documents, Cadbury-Schweppes' Diet Crush was found to contain benzene at 25 parts per billion (ppb) -- five times the acceptable EPA limit. After exposure to 16 hours of ultraviolet light at temperatures around 30 C (86 F), that level jumped to a whopping 82 ppb. Diet Slice (made by Pepsi) contained 1 ppb before exposure, and 41.5 ppb after exposure. Diet Minute Maid (made by Coca-Cola) contained less than 0.5 ppb before exposure and 4.5 ppb afterwards, the documents say.

Despite the comparatively high levels found in these cases, however, the products tested in Project Denver were never recalled. By law, the FDA is not allowed to order a recall of a product -- but it can issue a request for a voluntary recall and, in extreme cases, can order seizure of products. On Dec. 7, 1990, representatives of soft drink manufacturers met with FDA officials to share their findings. According to a memo of that meeting, they "expressed their concern about the presence of benzene traces in their products and the potential for adverse publicity associated with this problem." The FDA ruled that the problem was not large enough to warrant a recall, "agree[ing] that low ppb level of benzene found in these products do not constitute an imminent health hazard." [sic]

That finding, however, flies in the face of other beverage scares involving benzene at the time, and may have had more to do with companies' fear of damage to their bottom lines than legitimate health concerns. In January 1990, Perrier sparkling water in the United States had been found contaminated with benzene at levels up to 22 ppb. More than 160 million bottles of water were recalled worldwide, at a loss of $263 million to the company. Perrier's reputation took a hit as well, as the company was condemned for its failure to act quickly and for continuing to advertise during the recall.

A few months later, an Australian company named Koala Springs International ordered a recall in November 1990, when a Florida health agency found benzene levels of 11 to 18 ppb in its sparkling water with fruit additive -- which was formed by the same combination of sodium benzoate and ascorbic acid as in the Project Denver tests (in fact, the Koala Springs incident precipitated the tests in the first place).

Other recalls have taken place since the Project Denver findings. In the United Kingdom in 1998, Coca Cola-Schweppes ordered a recall of Malvern sparkling water, as well as cans of Coke, Sprite, Fanta and Dr. Pepper found to contain benzene at levels up to 20 ppb due to contaminated carbon dioxide. Britvic Soft Drinks shortly followed suit, recalling more than 2 million cans of soda, including Regular and Diet Orange Tango, Lemon Tango, Pepsi and 7-Up, which had also been made with the contaminated gas. At the time, the British Soft Drink Association stated that the products were being withdrawn for "quality reasons," not because they posed a health threat, but reaffirmed a vow to recall any beverages contaminated with benzene at more than 10 ppb.

And in June 1999, Coca-Cola was forced to recall 65 million cans of Coke in Belgium and France after more than 200 people became mysteriously sick. The company's initial stonewalling on the issue caused a public relations disaster that led to a 10 percent drop in stock price and temporary bans in several countries. While the company eventually determined that the contamination was due to bad carbon dioxide and pallets contaminated by a benzene derivative, a European commission later concluded that Coca-Cola's explanation was "highly unlikely," leaving lingering questions about the source of that contamination.

Apart from the potential bad publicity, Alibrandi speculates that the Big Three soft drink makers (Coca-Cola, Pepsi and Cadbury-Schweppes) didn't publicly recall their products in 1990 because of fears that they might have to replace sodium benzoate -- an important anti-microbial preservative. Without it or its cousin potassium benzoate, he says, drink makers would be unable to cold-bottle their drinks, instead having to undertake the more costly process of heat pasteurization. "The Big Three are going to safeguard that preservative," says Alibrandi. "If they told authorities the magnitude of it, maybe the risk was to have the preservative pulled. I imagine that would create a technical nightmare for these folks."

The fix is in?

After the Project Denver tests, the industry moved quickly to minimize the problem. In less than a month, Cadbury-Schweppes changed the formula for Orange Crush, removing ascorbic acid from the drink. Later, chemists discovered that the benzene-causing reaction could be slowed by a "technical fix" -- the addition of other chemicals called "chelating agents," of which the most common is called calcium disodium EDTA. "The soft drink industry promptly took steps to address the causes of benzene formation, and the matter was resolved through improved manufacturing procedures," said American Beverage Association (ABA) spokesperson Kathleen Dezio in a statement, when the whistleblower documents were posted last year.

After the most recent revelations, ABA vice president Mike Redman, who was at the 1990 meeting with the FDA, reiterated that point in a letter to the Raleigh News & Observer: "Products that contain sodium benzoate and ascorbic acid are not inherently unsafe," he wrote. "Steps can be taken, and have been taken, in the formulation process to address reactions that may lead to benzene. You do not necessarily need to remove one of these ingredients to prevent benzene."

Spokespeople for Pepsi and Coke, which makes Fanta, referred calls to the ABA. A spokesperson for Sunny Delight, Sydney McHugh, denied that the company's products were dangerous. "We have a deliberate strategy to prevent benzene from forming in any of our products," she says, adding the company has gotten a clean bill of health from independent analysis. "If we ever find evidence of benzene in any our products, we will reformulate our products."

But recently, Alibrandi says he was shocked when he pulled trade samples of hundreds of beverages and found the same combination of sodium or potassium benzoate and ascorbic acid, including some without the "technical fix" of one of the chelating agents. "I was astounded to see the number of products that contained this combination," says Alibrandi. "If this broke 15 years ago, why wasn't this rectified across the industry? The consumers of America deserve better."

Alibrandi and his lawyer, Ross Getman, alerted the FDA to the problem last November, but the agency initially denied the need for new tests, saying that it had adequately dealt with the issue in the early 1990s. To its credit, the FDA had commissioned a study of the benzene problem shortly after the Project Denver findings. In that study, which appeared in a medical journal in 1993, FDA chemists tested 50 different types of foods and beverages, including soft drinks, and found that none had a level of more than 2 ppb.

Another study released around the same time by a chemist who consulted with the FDA isolated the process whereby sodium benzoate and ascorbic acid could form benzene. In samples made to approximate soft drinks, it found benzene was formed in levels of less than 1 ppb. Even so, the study recommended "the combination of ascorbic acid and sodium benzoate in foods and beverages should be evaluated more carefully."

Other findings in the FDA's study are more worrisome. In that study, beverages were kept refrigerated, despite the indications in the whistleblower documents that results were exacerbated by heat and light. As a postscript to the study, however, researchers prepared solutions of sodium or potassium benzoate and ascorbic acid, similar to those found in some soft drinks, and exposed them to heat and light. After 20 hours at room temperature, these solutions had formed benzene in levels of 4 ppb. After another 8 days, that shot off the charts to 266 ppb. Exposing the solutions to "strong UV light" and/or temperatures of 45 C (113 F) for 20 hours shot the levels up even further, to 300 ppb. The study concluded that the "benzene formed is associated with the interaction of these two compounds. In these cases, the removal of one of the compounds may mitigate benzene formation."

Despite these findings, Pauli defends the agency's decision not to commission further testing at the time, saying that products were unlikely to be exposed to extremes of heat and light. "With the amount of staff we have, there is no way we could test more than a small sample of products," he says. "There are more important things for our people to do." Lawyer Getman, however, argues it's not unreasonable to think that soft drinks could regularly be exposed to extreme conditions. "What are they doing in New Delhi?" he says. "Many of these countries involve vendors who don't refrigerate their products. It's sold out of a cart along with the chicken kabobs."

Getman questions industry claims that all products have been reformulated to fix the problem. Because the Big Three producers and the FDA kept the benzene problem out of the press, other smaller manufacturers may have been unaware of the need for the technical fix. In addition, some European countries don't allow such chelating agents as calcium disodium EDTA, making it unclear how the Big Three's products may have been reformulated to correct the problem in those countries.

After being rebuffed by the FDA, Alibrandi and Getman organized their own series of independent tests in November, acquiring samples from as far away as Italy and Argentina and submitting them to a lab in New York. Of the dozen beverages they tested, three were found to contain levels more than 20 ppb. They sent the results to the FDA, finally alarming the agency enough to conduct its own tests.

Two weeks ago, Pauli confirmed to reporters that a small number of beverages in their study had tested positive for elevated levels of benzene up to 10-20 ppb. Since then, however, other countries including the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Germany and China have followed through with their own tests. Last week, tests in Britain returned more alarming results: of 230 beverages tested, 130 had benzene levels in excess of the European Union Limit for drinking water of 1 ppb, with some containing up to eight times that limit, according to The Times of London.

Neither American nor British authorities have so far released their testing results, and the FDA has yet to make a public announcement about the danger. That's unacceptable, says Tim Kropp, a senior scientist with the Environmental Working Group, a watchdog organization that has called on the FDA to release data from its study. "Without the public knowing, there is no incentive to do anything," he says. "Industry doesn't move unless they have to."

After all, says Kropp, if the public had been notified back in 1990, the current scare might have been prevented. "We've known this is a problem for over a decade, and it hasn't been fixed. This is what happens when you have a voluntary agreement that is not even made public. It boggles my mind that anyone would think that would work."

A good start to preventing future problems, says Kropp, is to set levels for harmful chemicals like benzene for food and drink similar to those that are in place for drinking water. "Benzene doesn't care whether you are drinking soda or water, and neither does your body," he says. Lawyer Getman agrees. "Consider, which does the average 5-year-old drink more of, pop or water?" he says. "You are not going to find a parent who says my kid drinks eight glasses of water a day."

Getman and Alibrandi are now awaiting the results of further testing in the United States and other countries to determine the extent of the problem that was first discovered in a lab 16 years ago. As more details about what the industry did and didn't do emerge, there is a possibility that companies could be held legally at fault, adding another crisis to a soft drink industry that has had no shortage of bad news. Getman ticks off a long list of legal questions presented by the issue, including product liability and deceptive consumer practices. "Especially in hot climates abroad where no technical fix was put in," he says, "the potential implications for liability are huge."

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Food Uniformity Bill
Posted by: eloots on Mar 13, 2006 2:39 AM   
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Put this in the context of the Food Uniformity Bill just passed in the House. If this bill passes in the Senate, this may mean that you will *never* be able to see on the Soda bottle whether it contains the combination of sodium (or potassium) benzoate and ascorbic acid.

Wake up Americans (and start drinking water).

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poison freaks
Posted by: rsaxto on Mar 13, 2006 3:11 AM   
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Will the poison freaks in big biz never stop poisoning us? If we had a decent administration and a decent congress we would be protected from the worst of this crap.

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» RE: poison freaks Posted by: daniel1982
Take the money out of politics
Posted by: Poederbach on Mar 13, 2006 3:55 AM   
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The political system in the US is very sensible to corruption. Lobbyist of the industry will always try to keep or get a product in the market. Stop lobyists, take the money out of politics even better stop corporate control of the US.

TomTom, Fearless Navigator

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» RE: Take the money out of politics Posted by: Lincoln fan
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who leaves pop sit around in the sun for EIGHT DAYS?
Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Mar 13, 2006 4:48 AM   
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I'd be more worried if the poison formed after a few minutes, rather than eight days.... when pop goes flat after sitting for a few hours, it's tossed, not drunk. get off your high horse.

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Here's an idea that really works
Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 13, 2006 4:50 AM   
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From Moderateindependent.com :

Immediately stop drinking - and get everyone you can contact to stop drinking - Coke and Pepsi.

What did Coke and Pepsi do? People have to realize that even the most powerful, biggest corporations are at our mercy. Coke and Pepsi both provide products that not only do we not ever need to drink again, but that we would all be better off if we never drank again. They have conspired to make us more obese by increasing the size of the beverages they sell, replacing 12 oz. cans in machines with 20 oz. bottles - that gives you twice as many calories and takes about twice as much money. We all let them do this with their worthless, tooth-eroding, belly-expanding sugar water crap.

This, again, is something easy and practical that can be done. If America simply stopped drinking Coke and Pepsi for any amount of time, it would be instant shock to the companies - they are dependent on our continued constant consumption.

The power in any capitalist society is in the consumers' hands. We are only victims as long as we choose to be.

P.S.: Not to mention that these SODA companies would finally be forced to clean up their act and get the carcinogens out ! Also, Coke and Pepsi aren't the only SODAs he's referring to but you get the picture.

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Did we poison our troops?
Posted by: Moonray on Mar 13, 2006 4:50 AM   
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This could explain Gulf War Syndrome, the mystery illness that plagues many veterans. Soft drinks were provided to the troops in huge amounts, and it has been reported that those containers often were exposed to high temperatures for substantial periods of time.

The FDA and Pentagon should investigate thoroughly.

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Same Industry?
Posted by: Louisa on Mar 13, 2006 5:08 AM   
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Aren't most of the bottled water brands made by the soda makers? So you pay even more for far less and sometimes the bottled water isn't even purified - it's just someone else's tap water. Sheeesh!

We should be making waves about truly pure water out of the tap then no one would need money to get healthy drinking water.

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» RE: Same Industry? Posted by: knitter
Skywolf
Posted by: theskywolf on Mar 13, 2006 6:05 AM   
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Surprise, surprise. Industry isn't bright enough to realize if they put the people first and do what's right, they will come out on top, probably making more money than ever before.

And, surprise, surprise again, the U.S. Food & Drug Admin (FDA), denies their charge and serves industry, not the people.
Just as in the Cannabis/WOSD issues, the FDA is more concerned about profits than quality of life. And it doesn't matter whether Republican or Democrat is involved.

Skywolf.

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the stuff can be toxic!
Posted by: Smiggsy on Mar 13, 2006 7:20 AM   
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I once owned a post mix soda dispensing machine as part of a popular franchise restaurant I once operated. Every soft drink company technician or sales rep that came to my store said that soft drinks should seriously not be served as part of a meal given the complete unhealthyness of the general product (apart from the above concept of poisonous drinks).

Although I had limitless amounts of cola (every childs dream) at my beckon, I hardly touched the stuff for years. Seeing the a leaking cola syrup hose burn through my stainless steel benches once said enough to my instincts.

Problem is that soft drinks were originally invented as 'treat' or dessert for consumption on rare occasions. Somewhere via gluttony, greed marketing & hype, society today has included it as an accepted part of every meal, snack & those thirsty moments in between.

And now the stuff can be toxic. The government knows about it for 15 years & does little. If huge companies are going to get away with this small fry issue of poisoning kids slowly through their favourite drink then compared to other f#$k ups, global warming & pollution are just the the tip of the melting iceberg. The concern with the Bush, Halliburton & Iraq thing should come as no surprise to anyone.

The corporations are killing everybody for profit & we are all to blame for letting them to continue to get away with murder.....again....& again....& again........& again......

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» RE: the stuff can be toxic! Posted by: Bozwell
» Ironically enough Posted by: Ayla87
Look at Benzene in this database
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Mar 13, 2006 7:53 AM   
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Tired, fat, sick and broke. . .
Posted by: monkeywrench on Mar 13, 2006 7:56 AM   
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Here's another little fact that might help people to get off the soda fix: they are being ripped off. That soda at a fast-food joint that costs $1.60 to $2.00? It costs the vendor about 10 CENTS! (My son worked in a theater for a summer and found out what they paid for the syrup; it was almost nothing.) Ya' think your local hamburger emporium puts in self-serve soft drink bars for your benefit? Hell no, they put them in to lower their labor costs, because the majority of the cost of each soda was in the 20 to 30 seconds each employee spent filling a cup. Now, they have you supplying your own labor AND charging you at a 1000%+ markup! Such a deal.

Also, besides playing Russian Roulette with cancer, the amount of sugar consumed with the average soft drink BLASTS your bloodstream with sucrose, causing your pancreas to go into overdrive to counter with insulin. When the sucrose spike drops, all that free insulin causes the body's energy to tank and its hunger response to kick in. No wonder so many of us are fatigued and obese.

So, instead of this formula:
sodium benzoate + ascorbic acid + heat + light = cancer

How about:
plain water – sodas – cash outlay = +health +bank account

Works for me, and I used to be addicted to this crap, too.

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Train dem kids early!
Posted by: fredo1012 on Mar 13, 2006 7:59 AM   
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We always never stocked nor drank sodas in my household. We are juice and water-water all the way; and even with juice we don't touch any brand that alludes to any "artificial flavors."And when my 4 year old came home one day from daycare and was asking to have some "soda" I sat him down for a talk, mano-a-mano. "Son, soda gives you yokky stuff and I know you hate the yokky stuff that at times come from your nose and mouth, right?" He said, "yeah..." with a little drawl. I gave him time to ponder, then added, "now, Daddy knows that juice makes you happy, especially when you and Mommy squeeze them from the fruits?" He smiled broadly. End of story for us. We have always cooked in our home and religiously monitored what we eat or drink. To do otherwise, in my opinion, is to outsource one's health and wellbeing.

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Soft drinks are poison, period.
Posted by: Ravensong on Mar 13, 2006 8:00 AM   
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After suffering a severe toxic reaction to Nutrasweet years ago from drinking diet sodas at every meal, I did a bit of research on the web about artificial sweeteners and Nutrasweet in paticular. I was amazed to find out the amount of harm this stuff does to your body. Then I found out that the regular sodas are just as bad, as the high fructose corn syrup that they use (most major manufacturers no longer use sugar) has been linked in many studies to diabetes.

Anyone drinking Sodas (especially diet) should do a bit of reading on the web about these products.

The continued sales of these products amounts to nothing less than a systematic poisoning of the public in the name of profit.

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Adelle Davis
Posted by: WitchyNy on Mar 13, 2006 8:26 AM   
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When Adelle Davis was dying of cancer, she was asked how someone like her, who was a Professional Nutritionist and promoted natural foods,could get cancer. She said-

"I drank a lot of colas when I was in college."

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What? The FDA has been in collusion?
Posted by: Voicedude on Mar 13, 2006 8:27 AM   
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WAIT A MINUTE!

You mean to tell me that the FDA has been in collusion with the major corporations? What!?! I thought the whole reason for their existance was to protect the PEOPLE!

What a revelation!

If that's all true, then the next thing you know is we'll be seeing a glut TV commercials for pharmecuticals that don't even apply to most of the people watching.

Oh, Wait!............

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There is more than Benzene to worry about!
Posted by: topview on Mar 13, 2006 8:39 AM   
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The content of sugar is a huge problem, as it feeds those cancerous cells that are caused by other ingredients in
soft drinks.
One more ingredient is Aspartame in diet soda. It is so dangerous to the human body and toxic to all cells. It causes
many differant ailments and most Doctors mis-diagnose the
problem.
Here is a quote from Liza Zak from Women and Childrens
hospital in Buffalo NY.
> Why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener
> exceeds 86 degrees F., the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to
> formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic
> acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants.
>
> The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis
> and systemic lupus. Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although
> multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, methanol toxicity is.
>
> Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis,
> especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually
> does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its
> use;
> irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a
life-threatening
> condition. We have seen patients with systemic l! upus become asymptotic,
> once taken off diet sodas."

And the FDA still won't ban this product from use in all our food supply.
One reason is that our Sec. of Defense Mr. Rumsfeld is the person that got it approved many years ago through his
pressure tactics on the FDA. and as long as he is in Office they will never remove it from the products we consume.
The power of GREED and corruption in government is
what is the problem with the health of our population.
Untill we get rid of this cancer in politics, we will have sick
and obese people feeding the Drug industries and Doctors,
and keeping them rich and healthy. Wake up America and
read labels and become involved, before it is to late.

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» RE: the same Rumsfeld? Posted by: ScottP
brominated vegetable oil?
Posted by: moonbean on Mar 13, 2006 11:05 AM   
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I've always wondered about "brominated vegetable oil" in soft drinks. It's used to make grapefruit drinks like Squirt cloudy. Bromination sounds an awful lot like chlorination, which would be akin to many industrial processes to make pesticides and inflamable oils. Does any food scientist out there know about the safety of brominated vegetable oil?

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» RE: brominated vegetable oil? Posted by: Asmodeus
At least 50 years ago...
Posted by: chasaturn on Mar 13, 2006 11:22 AM   
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Many of the US and British soldiers serving in Northern Africa (and other intemperate climate spots around the world) during WW2 developed kidney stones as a result of drinking colas because the drinking water "couldn't be trusted". The Army hauled this crap in by the truckload every day. By the 1060s, many, many of these GIs were being sliced open to take rocks out. The doctors that did the surgery and treated these folks knew what was up - can you believe our government did not? Get a clue. Remember, a corporation fits the clinical definition of psychopathic personality - much as does the current leadership in Washington, DC - members of all three branches of our government deserve prison, or worse, as do 99% of corporate execs.

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Healthy Kiwi guy
Posted by: Ronaldo on Mar 13, 2006 12:16 PM   
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Does it take a carcinogen scare to stop you from drinking a sugary drink devoid of all nutrition? There has been information freely available sufficient to deter ANYONE from drinking trash products like "pop" (or "soft drink" as we in New Zealand put it). I haven't drunk soda pop for years. Knowing that each can of pop contains about 13 teaspoons of sugar should by itself be enough to put anyone off. Empty calories that contribute to making Americans so obese. And now with this info on carcinogens, there is even more reason to avoid considering pop as a food. Wake up. My only regret is that I haven't contributed to the sales statistics of pop for many years which means I can't make my own personal contribution towards decreasing their sales!!

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From a fizz freak
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 13, 2006 2:14 PM   
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I drink bottled carbonated water. I was a diet soda addict for a long time, but the information on its deleterious contents finally got to me.

I also made the useful discovery that, at least for me, the cheapie generic carbonated water tastes as good as the international labels, for half the price.

So I still get my fizz but without the seasonings. If they start to market it as "fat free and salt free" I may have to reconsider. The profession of half-truth double-talk (advertising) is what makes me sick.

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Toxins all around
Posted by: Moonray on Mar 13, 2006 2:30 PM   
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Thinking of switching to bottled water? Consider this:
Now it's being reported that many bottles contain PBDE's, cancer-causing chemicals used to toughen plastic.

I'd go back to drinken from an oaken bucket, but the wood probably has been treated with . . . you guessed it.

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What about Coke addicts?
Posted by: YogiBear on Mar 13, 2006 3:24 PM   
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"Levels like that with benzene, our only concern would be lifetime consumption," says George Pauli, associate director of science and policy in the office of food additive safety.

Yikes! That means me.

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We'll have to return to drinking one of the healthier beverages...
Posted by: YogiBear on Mar 13, 2006 3:31 PM   
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Beer!

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all refined sugar is addictive
Posted by: tomo on Mar 13, 2006 3:57 PM   
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I don't know about anyone else, but I get a craving for sweets everyday about the same time. I would call this an addiction. Corn syrup candy corn, gummy bears and what have you. One example of how this can be destructive: there was some Native american tribe Hopie, Navajo I forget, but they had this huge prevalence of diabetis and obesity and all this came after they moved in a safeway or something to that area. IMO hf corn syrup is very destructive

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50% of Americans don't vote....and I can't imagine why
Posted by: cry0fan on Mar 13, 2006 5:10 PM   
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gosh, our political activists in both parties are SO VERY concerned with vital bread and butter issues that are crucial to us all!
What kind of issues do the political cognoscenti focus on? Why just take a look at front page of political web sites like Alternet--soda contents, gay rights, race, gender, religion, video games. All the same tired old wedge issues.

Oh, OK, there is some lip service paid to bread and butter economics issues. For example, once in a while immigration is discussed, and maybe progressive taxation once in a blue moon, and free trade, universal healthcare occassionally.

But for the most part, it is harmless fluff like this article.

And the rightwing sites are not much different.

The left and the right both dance to whatever tune those at the top of the ladder tell them to dance to....

And yet 50% of all eligible voters do not vote because they feel that voting is irrelevant. Gosh, I wonder why they feel that way...

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LizFun
Posted by: LizFun on Mar 13, 2006 5:34 PM   
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Too bad Perrier had to take the hit in 1990 for the entire beverage industry. I was moving from Taiwan to Thailand at the time and the International Herald Tribune ran a long article on Perrier's recall - the recall was actually Christmas 1989 - I remember reading about it because the comments from the public were hilarious! One party thrower said she was still serving what she had on hand at her Christmas party and she hoped her guests wouldn't notice. A NYC maitre d' said "Perrier Schmerrier - we switched to San Pellegrino some time ago because the bottles are smaller and we can charge twice as much." My favorite comment was from a fellow in my home state (North Carolina): "I don't understand what the fuss is about. Why anyone would pay good money for a drink without liquor in it?"

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PIKERS COMPARED TO PHARMACEUTICALS
Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 13, 2006 5:44 PM   
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While of concern my greatest fear are biologically active agents that are supposed to help you!- OTC and prescribed medications which US citizens gobble daily like candy. As we get older the per-capita consumption of pills rises as does the number of serious side effects including death. Soda and water containing benzene MAY? harm but please don't use these liquids to swiggle down your next dose of supposedly safe meds. And I am a Doc!

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GLACEAU VITAMIN AND FRUIT WATER...THE BEST ALTERNATIVES TO SODA!
Posted by: realmuzik on Mar 14, 2006 12:54 AM   
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My "backwards" Midwest small-town grocery store finally got on the ball and stocked this wonderful-beyond-words variety of beverages. A company in NYC makes it, and as far as I know it is not connected with any mulitnational conglomerates. ;) I will be making damn sure that they don't sell themselves out to any-like Ben & Jerrys sold themselves out to Unilever. If you still don't know what I am talking about, visit http://www.vitaminwater.com and get started by demanding that your own local grocer stock PLENTY of this too excellent alternative to soda! It's much lower in calories, tasty, and GOOD FOR YOU AND YOUR KIDS!

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pure water
Posted by: ecolib on Mar 14, 2006 5:33 AM   
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There's no such thing as "pure water out of a tap". Even the aquifers are polluted.

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soda in the garage
Posted by: Andrea on Mar 14, 2006 10:12 AM   
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I know someone who used to store cases of soda in her garage, where it became very hot during the summer. Of course, in other countries they don't have any cooling at all.

The artificial sweeteners and corn syrup are poisons in and of themselves! Soda is addictive and dangerous to health. Period.

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No nutritional value
Posted by: badkitty53 on Mar 14, 2006 11:46 AM   
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Growing up, my parents never bought soda because it had "no nutritional value". It is astonishing to me that so many people drink it voluntarily, but I guess they have enough money to buy food that doesn't do you any good.

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at the same
Posted by: pollar on Nov 7, 2006 2:16 PM   
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7891011

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dont know
Posted by: umo on Dec 6, 2006 5:17 PM   
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fix
Posted by: pollar on Jan 29, 2007 12:30 PM   
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