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The Cost of Incompetence

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted March 3, 2006.


The Bush administration's unique brand of ineptitude is both chilling and really, really expensive.

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The administration's competence problem is already at the yadda, yadda, yadda stage. They were supposed to protect us from terrorist attacks, they said Iraq would be a cakewalk, that we only needed 50,000 troops. They failed to plan for the occupation or Hurricane Katrina or the prescription drug plan. Yadda.

But when you look at the details of what incompetence means, it becomes both chilling and really, really expensive. The Army announced this week it has decided to reimburse Halliburton for nearly all of the disputed costs in the more than $250 million in charges the Pentagon's own auditors had identified as excessive or unjustified.

According to the Pentagon's figures, it normally withholds an average of 66 percent of what the auditors recommend. In this case, the Pentagon wound up paying all but 3.8 percent of the disputed costs, a figure so far outside the norm, it was noticed immediately. Rick Barton of the Center for Strategic and International Studies told the New York Times, "To think that it's that near zero is ridiculous when you're talking these kinds of numbers."

You may recall Bunnatine Greenhouse, a senior civilian contracting official with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, who said the Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR) contract was "the most blatant and improper contract abuse I have witnessed during the course of my professional career." (Greenhouse was later demoted for her honesty.)

Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., said, "Halliburton gouged the taxpayer, government auditors caught the company red-handed, yet the Pentagon ignored the auditors and paid Halliburton hundreds of millions of dollars and a huge bonus." In addition to costs, the Army, which blamed the excess to "haste and the perils of war," also awarded the company additional profits and bonuses provided in the no-bid contract.

And now comes a curious new contract for KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary. The contract provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing Immigration and Custom enforcement. It's a contingency contract -- the contingency they have in mind apparently being "in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the United States." Canadians drowning from global warming? Mexicans feeling the return of PRI? Ah, but the contract also specifies the detention centers are to "support the rapid development of new programs." New programs? Far be it from me to speculate.

The alarmmeisters in the blogosphere, whose imaginations know no bounds, are already positing any number of horrors. (I cannot imagine where they get some of these far-out ideas. From reading the right-wing blogosphere?)

What surprises me is that the administration has planned for whatever it is it's planning for. How forethoughtful of them to have something in place in case a lot of citizens need to be rounded up or something. What else are these people planning for? How to get body armor to the troops after all this time? Improved port security?

One of the problems we have here is that in order to fix a mistake, it is first necessary to recognize that you've made one. But we're dealing with George W. Bush. We should be getting ready for three Katrinas next year, but first the administration would have to recognize that global warming is taking place.

One of the most discouraging morsels of news in recent days is that President Bush was so enchanted by Michael Crichton's novel purportedly debunking global warming that he asked Crichton to the White House to chat with him. Help! Why can't we ever get a break? Think what would happen if the president read The Da Vinci Code.

And so we are back to the ultimate mistake. I'm all in favor of saving face in Iraq; they can call it Iraqification or whatever they want to. Declare victory and go home, fine by me. But somewhere, somehow, some grownups are going to have to admit that this whole endeavor was a terrible idea. I'm for democracy. I'm against Saddam Hussein. I'm sorry it didn't work out the way they wanted it to. Now let's go. Because anybody who tells you it couldn't possibly get worse is a fool.

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Posted by: signsong@earthlink.com on Mar 2, 2006 6:08 PM   
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Amid the bushelbaskets of unassailable evidence that we daily bring into the courtroom in the continuing preparation for th Great Trial against George and Co., Ms. Ivins actually gives me hope that even though this battle is wearysome in its "when are they going to get it" quotient, I think that the pace of the opposition to this Administration and its malignant chicanery will accelerate in the coming weeks. I think it's even becoming rapidly obvious to many slightly left- of- Bush Republicans that they've gotta abandon ship but-quick, or their own lifeboats are doomed to sink in the same toxic slime that floats George's rudderless ship of State. It may be for the reason of political expediency, but I really don't care. Bush apparently doesn't get it that about 85% of the Congress is in an over-my-dead-body stance on the Dubai Port thing, and this may the issue that sets the stage for the beginning of the end for George's dream of the Imperial Presidency. This time next year, if we haven't been wiped off the planet by another hurricane, or a nuclear war,or bird flu, I firmly believe the new democratic majority in Congress will be about wrapped up with the Impeachment process, and Bush and Cheney, Rovie and Lewie and Co. will be enroute to a Federal Prison. Maybe we could just let Gore and Kerry finish out the term,trading off days, just to see how they might have done. Or, we could just have NO President for a couple of years. How could that be worse than this!?
I don't know why, but I'm optimistic. Too many of us Lefties waste a lot of time crying into our Latte's , adrift in the malaise of powerlessness. We are late for the soccer game. Our cell phones and emails are calling. We have lost the minutes for the last meeting. We are laying there trying to relax in yoga class while the world is coming apart.
I blame myself too. I'm one of these people. Seems like whatever we do, George and his goons win. That's about to end. We have to be optimistic, but we have to get out and kick butt too, and I don't even like that term. Pessimism causes cancer. Set your sights on the '06 elections...Get the Republican stooges out, Impeach the Fool, and then get on to the business of fixing this country.

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Mark
Posted by: tatamark on Mar 2, 2006 7:01 PM   
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"Because anybody who tells you it couldn't possibly get worse is a fool."

This concluding comment to Molly Ivins' column about Bushworld is so sad but so true. Bush & Co. still have 1054 days to wrought who knows what. Their imagination is far superior to anyone opposed to them. And the Democrats? Most congressional districts are election proof for the incumbents. Wait until after the November elections and it might not seem like such a wacky idea to build some kind of underground shelter in your backyard - if you have one, that is.

I lived in Los Angeles when Nixon was president, Regan was governor, and Yorty was mayor. It's far more scary now!

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Poor Planning
Posted by: jwg on Mar 2, 2006 7:13 PM   
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There seems to be plenty of discussion about the lack of planning on the part of the Administration. I disagree, when the out come of what appears to be poor planning turns out to financially benefit everyone but the tax paying public.

You say the military industrial complex should suffer because of the end of cold war, that is poor planning start a war in Iraq.

I was going to rant about Haliburton, New Orleans, Alaska Wilderness, war on drugs, pills for the aged, clear cutting forests, charging for public parks, giving mineral rights to public lands, voting machines sans paper trail, stealing elections, foreign companys running our ports, Patriot acts, torturing, rendition, trashing whistle blowers but what is the use.

This nefarious crew does plan they just don't have objectives that benefit humanity.

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» RE: Poor Planning Posted by: mwildfire
The Case for Impeachment
Posted by: eileenflmng on Mar 2, 2006 7:49 PM   
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“As of January 17, 2006, the rap sheet listed 2,229 American military dead in Iraq together with an unknown number of Iraqi civilians; what looks to be the sum of $1 trillion to $2-trillion, already committed to The Project for the New American Century’s real estate development in the Mesopotamia desert.

Better reasons to impeach a president than the one pressed into service against Bill Clinton, whose penis was known to be aimless and shown to be harmless.” [HARPER'S March 2006, p.32]

Monday Morning Manifesto Feb 27 WAWA BLOG:
http://www.wearewideawake.org

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Katrina & Global Warming?
Posted by: yesman on Mar 2, 2006 8:58 PM   
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"We should be getting ready for three Katrinas next year, but first the administration would have to recognize that global warming is taking place."

We should indeed be preparing for future Katrinas, as they will surely come. However, whether Hurricane Katrina was the result of global warming is highly questionable. I'm certainly not denying that global warming is real--just questioning whether it's possible to draw any reliable causal connection between global warming and this particular storm. If several more Katrinas occur soon, it will be much more likely that global warming is playing a role in their formation.

I'm just saying that liberals--who (rightly) make such a big deal out of the Buch crime family's disrespect for science--ought to be careful about loosely attributing causal connections where there is no good scientific evidence such a connection exists.

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johngary66
Posted by: johngary66 on Mar 3, 2006 2:26 AM   
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Please Mr. Vice President, the President is looking peeked and needs another vacation. Couldn't you take him on a nice bear hunting trip to Alaska?

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fools
Posted by: rsaxto on Mar 3, 2006 2:50 AM   
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The Bushies thought they had discovered gold in the form of Iraqi oil, easily stolen from a militarily-weakened Iraq. Instead they discovered the fools gold of bombs, bullets and fire that grows ever more nasty from patriotic occupied Iraqis in response to the mass murder from American nonprecision bombing. The fools are the Bushies and victims include those Americans who believed them and are dying from the fundamentalist belief in thier fake goodness. Impeach the fools and bring the decieved troops home now for their every death is a Cheney/Bush crime.

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Why they pillage the Treasury
Posted by: Moonray on Mar 3, 2006 5:06 AM   
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I think at some point Alan Greenspan or some other guru met with senior Republicans and said, "Look, you guys had better grab every penny you can, because the economy is going to collapse in a few years. Our federal credit cards are maxed out. One more big event, like a WMD attack or another big natural disaster, and the whole thing will collapse like a house of cards."

So Bush, Cheney & Co. began to funnel every public dollar they could get their hands on into the pockets of their pals in the private sector. Don't believe it? Check out the unbid contracts for the war in Iraq and Bush's executive order giving tens of millions to the religious right.

The Bushies remind me of those top Nazis who looted Europe's art museums during the last year of World War II. Only George and his pals are pillaging our children's Social Security accounts -- and no doubt stashing the loot in offshore accounts.

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Signs of the times.
Posted by: Slowburn on Mar 3, 2006 5:16 AM   
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Is it possible this entire adventure was planed by Chaney while sitting in his office at Halliburton? Was it his scheme to push bush into the white house buy hook or crook to manufacture an engagement in the middle east, and by acquiring the second most powerful political office in America clench economic domination for his (former) transnational corporation?
The signs I see all point to a world were transnational corporations have more power then any one government. Including the united states government, Halliburton (Chaney) simply slipped a hostile takeover of U.S. government in behind the backs of Americans. Energy policy written by energy providers? In secret and off limits to the very people that it effects. And we mustn’t forget that bush and Chaney’s buddy Ken Lay was there giving his o so ethical advise how to gouge the public.
No bid contracts for a manufactured war?
The military will give Halliburton its money because that was the agreement all along the chief executive by proxy of Halliburton is the vice president of the U.S. and that’s the way it is.
The selling off of America to these Tran national’s with complete disregard of the future safety of America is just more proof that plutocratic world domination is engulfing us as we speak.
And proceeding at a dizzying pace.
Borders open for the express propose of allowing workers in that are willing to work for slave wages.
Cutting the legs out from under the middle class standard of living. Allowing health care issues to fester in order to have a reason to decimate organized labor contracts that have lawfully bargained for health care benefits to make them unaffordable and therefore a flame to burn agreements and void promises made to hard working Americans. Are the new detention centers being built for the domestic terrorists that our new masters expect when the population realizes that it has been sold to the highest bidder and they must teach us the ways of Wahhabism? No they are not detention centers they are reeducation camps.
Obedient proletarians are the goal.
Have we stumbled into a world were the money that this country pays for its energy is being used to buy the U.S., and therefore, to build huge military complexes in Iraq? Did the house of Saud use the U.S. military to invade and create a permanent presence there? Is it plausible that the EX C.E.O of Halliburton had this scenario in mind all along?
When you start to add up all the things that have accumulated over the last few years like, a politician not above using Joseph Goebbels big lie propaganda technique, the high jacking of the largest organized religion in the U.S., the full frontal assault on the middle class, deregulation, tort (reform), big business writing their own rules, NAFTA, CAFTA, and the exporting of jobs, a manufactured war costing hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars (that trans nationals are gorging them selves on) at the expense of the common wealth of our country, domestic spying of innocent people with out warrant, the suspension of habeas corpus, out right torture, the sell off of U.S. infrastructure, a majority of congress in charge that has relinquished its responsibility to protect the American people, and far to many more signs to mention here.
It is painfully obvious to me that the American people have been sold out.
Is it all going to plan? Whose plan is the question knawing at me. Also what is the desired conclusion of this plan, and what does it mean for our nation?
The society we have today is a twisted perversion of the one we lived in just five years ago.
What will it be like five years from now?
2+2=5?

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Be careful what you wish for
Posted by: mzbuz on Mar 3, 2006 6:29 AM   
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I agree with just about every statement in the above posts, however I have one over riding concern. If we impeach Bush, what will prevent Cheney from taking office and pardoning Bush from prosecution for any and all crimes committed while in office? And if we make it a twosome impeachment, the next guy in line is also a Republican jerk, Hastert. He would do the same. So would every other person in line for taking over the reins of office. Remember, thats what Ford did for Nixon. And believe me it would happen again if we impeach him now. I know it's a toss up between suffering through the next 3 years, and immediate gratification, but we need to have some patience and faith that once out of office, he not only can be prosecuted for war crimes, so can Cheney and all the others. That would put him in jail, behind bars, unrehabitable. Don't forget, Nixon was hailed as a great "statesman" at his death, he was coming back as a force within Washinton. People actually listened to what he had to say. Nixon was a sweetheart compared to Bush. If we can regain control of Congress this year we might be able to ease the pain of the next 3 years, maybe even turn it around to some degree. But I don't just want to see him humiliated,(which I very much doubt is even possible since to feel humility one must have a sence of personal failure and responsiblity for failure) I want to see him prosecuted with some degree of assurance that he will go to prison! I want REAL revenge!

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Science fiction climate writer claims 'gray goo' will smother us
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 3, 2006 7:15 AM   
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Perhaps the DHS would like to interview Mr. Crichton on his other novel "Prey" which posits that self-replicating nano-robots will take over the world and turn everything into grey goo. This sounds like a critical national emergency! Do we have a 'gray goo' response ready? Are we prepared for this unheralded threat to human civilization? And what about the Klingons? They apparently are bloodthirsty space aliens who may invade the planet any day now. Are we prepared? Please Mr. Crighton, tell us what to do so we don't have to exist in this "State of Fear"? Maybe take more Prozac?

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It worked for Nixon
Posted by: bookwoman on Mar 3, 2006 8:00 AM   
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Declaring victory and moving our troops out of the area worked for Nixon in Vietnam. I think its a great idea for Iraq.

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Screw Ups and Screwed Over
Posted by: IowaDem on Mar 3, 2006 9:27 AM   
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Those of us who have protested all along that Bush and friends had an agenda more attuned to enriching their portfolios than protecting America and the Constitution are seeing our every prediction become a reality. In other words, we get to say "I told you so." While sometimes being right is a warm fuzzy, no matter what those who disagree with us say, being right this time certainly doesn't make us happy. We're not feeling triumphant. We're heartbroken. Watching the demise of our country and the shredding of our Constitution is the saddest thing we've ever seen.

This administration's incompetence, dishonesty, and nincompoopery (?) have landed us all in a helluva mess. All of us. And the horizon doesn't look so good. Our treasury is hopelessly depleted, our schools are failing, our good jobs have moved to other countries, our air and water are dirtier, our laws are less just, and our freedoms are curtailed. And our country and the world are less safe.

Our hope for a better future requires that the cult worshippers who have defended and applauded this administration's every misstep, nonsense statement or downright lie were jolted into reality when their heroes fell from grace on live TV. Hopefully they were paying attention when the liberation of Iraq did not result in flowers and dancing in the streets. Or when human life and dignity was held cheap in New Orleans and Guantanamo and Abu Grahib.

Fortunately, the mainstream media seems to have lifted it's head from the pillow and blinked once or twice lately. They might be getting an inkling that the patriotic resolve they once bought into was really just a mixture of bullying and unrepentent incompetence. And perhaps the Halliburton payoff and the Dubai Ports World deal have caused them to wonder if perhaps, just perhaps, Bush DOES value money and corporate welfare over the physical security of American citizens. Hmmm. Imagine that.

Many of us who have called and written to our legislators to seeking redress, respite, something, have felt helpless - watching our country founder under inept and corrupt leadership. I, for one, appreciate and rely on journalists like yourself who use your forum to speak common sense; clarifying the inconsistencies and challenging injustices that should not go unchallenged. Thanks, Molly, for once again telling it like it is.

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Explanation for the detention centers...
Posted by: Kelly on Mar 3, 2006 10:14 AM   
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And now comes a curious new contract for KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary. The contract provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing Immigration and Custom enforcement. It's a contingency contract -- the contingency they have in mind apparently being "in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the United States."

Every time we go off bumbling in the rest of the world, we end up having to absorb a wave of emigrants displaced by our stupid policies. Last time it was displaced Vietnamese and nearly the entire Hmong people. This time, we are going to have to absorb a chunk of the population of Iraq, and possibly Afghanistan. And we are going to need somewhere to put them until they can be assimilated into our society.

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Planning for our 'final solution' – or, "Head us up, an' move us out, pardner."
Posted by: monkeywrench on Mar 3, 2006 10:22 AM   
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If the alleged "planning" for these new detention centers goes anything like the "planning" by the Bush administration thus far, when they are finished, the toilets will flush every time the lights are turned on, the windows will be in the floor, and they'll fall down in the first stiff breeze –– and Halliburton will get a "good work, Cheney" attaboy and a nice fat bonus for a "job well done." And all of the dissidents and malcontents – like those of us writing for this and other outlets – will STILL have to live in tents after we're rounded up.

Oh, and on that subject: besides the new detention centers being planned for 'some new project,' the military is working on non-lethal crowd control weapons, such as high-output audio "guns" and directed microwave radiation (don't shoot 'em...cook 'em!). Considering the fact that the military shows no concern for killing anyone perceived as an enemy in a foreign conflict, precisely for whom are these weapons intended? Take a guess. . .take a wild guess. . .

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Government By and For Corporations.
Posted by: boblecht on Mar 3, 2006 10:32 AM   
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The Halliburton example above is only one of hundreds of examples of how this Administration--with substantial assistance from many Democrats--has promoted and supported the corporate takeover and control of Congress. Instead of government of the People, by the People, for the People, we now have government of the people, by the Corporations, for the Corporations. This is not the dynamic of Democracy--it is clearly the dynamic of American Fascism.

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OK, Molly, Where do we find the will to resist?
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 3, 2006 11:49 AM   
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Reasons to resist are clear enough: the legitimate government of the US is being dismantled, piece by piece. It's a pattern that Cheney learned when destroying the War on Poverty. Its practiced in corporate takeovers that sell-off what's working and bankrupt what's left.

The American people go along in order to get along. All the Demo representation in Washington, DC, are millionaires. What do they care? So long as we have no national leadership capable of mounting a resistance, all we can do, it seems, is sit around and complain.

Molly, I'm tired of just complaining, which means I'm even tired of your complaining. Find us some leadership! Find us some reason to continue to resist. Find us some fighters, not complainers.

We already know things are rotten. Teddy Kennedy is too old and smelly to do it. Is there no one left? (PS. Tell Russ Feingold not to fly in Wisconsin late winter storms. Schumer's heart is in the right place, but only when he's got a script in hand does he sound believable.) I guess I'm hoping for something magical. I'm that desperate.

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Join Me
Posted by: kelly.nickell on Mar 3, 2006 12:17 PM   
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I spend too much time complaining and not enough time doing.

I intend to do two things in the next month:

1. Put two words connected by an ampersand on a piece of paper and tape it in the back window of my diesel pickup: IMPEACH & PROESCUTE
2. The other is to pick a day, my favorite day for republicans in this case; April Fools Day and turn it into a national holiday for progressive minds by basically allowing no progress at all. I will stop whatever I’m doing at noon on Republican Progress Day, as I will rename it, and just quit, walk away, stop. Go to my window and use the line from a movie that made sense to me in the past and yell, “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!”

Maybe I’ll just honk, or stare, or scream expletives, but I will not aid and abet these fools running my country at that moment.

Noon, in whatever time zone I’m in. I quit.

Join me in shutting this shit down for this moment, and in making enough noise in a moment to get these fools attention.

I just want a sign that we will not repeat this thing, until at least the next generation has legs, and I am dead, where they will have to do it all over again.

signed, quite mad, (or should that be "quite nuts"?)

Kelly Nickell

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No, they're compentant enough
Posted by: pt on Mar 3, 2006 1:04 PM   
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This seems to be as good a place as any to put this.
No Ms. Ivans, this crew is not incompentant. Stating so only engenders sympathy. This implies that they have good intentions but just keep screwing up. No I don' t believe this is the case.
They are putting their attentions to the things they feel it is important to accomplish in their short (hopefully) time in power. Concentrating as much money and power for themselves and their friends as possible in the hopes that we as a free country well never recover. Then we won't be a free country, we'll be THEIR country. That's what they want. Every action they take reinforces this theory (too many supportive facts to call it a hypothesis).
From blood relations to Nazis and Nazi supporters (Prescott Bush anyone?) to Norquists' stated goals of destroying the federal gov't (drowning it in a bathtub) this is not sect of the population with any care about "family values" or "the will of the people." Only the will of THEIR OWN people. They don't talk to or about you and me. Only about themselves.
Let's start talking about this in real terms. Class war. Fascism/totalitarianism. Those with a disdain for government should not be allowed to be in it. These people are not wholly incompetant. They are doing exactly what they want. And unfortunately doing a pretty good job of it.

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Let's add it up
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Mar 3, 2006 1:17 PM   
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Millions killed in WW2, thousands in Korea,52,000+ in Vietnam,untold numbers in Central America, a few hundred in Desert Storm and 2,230 in the current 'Long War'.
The price of one human life is still more than all the dollar values assessed to date. The loss of faith in our leadership is
a bigger cost to the system yet. It breeds rebellion. It will come at the ballot box. It will come when the People show up
at Penn. Ave and demand a Tar and Feathering of the Executive Branch. It will come when hunderds of millions of taxpayers refuse to give their hard earned monies to fund a corrupt system that obeys no Laws except the ones they pervert to their needs.
The Loss of Freedom and Liberty in absolutly incalculable. There is no gold,diamond,or oil that can replace that. They are gifts of our respective Creator and cannot every be surrendered to the cause of Tyranny. But slowly that cost is being exacted. These most heinous of crimes against the People must and will be stopped. It is our right to take back our Liberty and proclaim our Freedom. Should we fail in this most important of tasks,the next face that we will greet will be
that of the Reaper.

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» RE: Let's add it up Posted by: kelly.nickell
Molly, you're scaring me!
Posted by: kablooie on Mar 3, 2006 1:32 PM   
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Stop the insanity, I want to get off.

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KBR contract for internment to enforce quarantines?
Posted by: ps2pgmr on Mar 3, 2006 2:01 PM   
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The Bush administration has already noted its intent to use the military to enforce quarantines, in the event of a bird flu outbreak.

I suspect that this KBR contract is to contain and quarantine Americans, not displaced foreign nationals.

see: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9589897/

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there is one issue logically preceding all others
Posted by: wli on Mar 3, 2006 5:32 PM   
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And that is covert action, particularly domestic.

Would the left wing be in such disarray if not for COINTELPRO? Or the Democrats?

Would the religious right be so prevalent if not for institutional support from intelligence agencies?

What would people be concerned about and voting for if not for the extensive propaganda pushed by the right wing?

How many would accept these "leaders" if they knew what they actually believed?

What so many fail to accept and internalize is that the right wing is so extremely violent and so extremely deceptive that it represents a danger of the severity and scope that it actually does.

Frankly, the right wing are genocidal maniacs.

In any event, a serious understanding of what the tactics and methods actually being used are is necessary to understand what is going on around us and the actual structure of power. The right wing is not merely playing by the rules of parliamentary debate or electoral politics.

The notion of holding up one's attackers as "beneficent, but bumbling" is not merely counterproductive, but suicidal.

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They ain't leaving Iraq ...
Posted by: jimlup on Mar 3, 2006 10:34 PM   
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That's what I like about Molly, naive as hell.

We're not leaving Iraq. Even if the costs become nuclear - we're not leaving Iraq.

This is not Vietnam folks. There are similarites in the tactical situation but ...

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Job 1 well done!
Posted by: williameon on Mar 5, 2006 4:10 AM   
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You have to give credit
Where credit is due.
These Guys are realizing their Dreams.
While stealing yours.
They have taken over the Government.
They are wholesaling America.
They have stolen everything.
Your government.
The Treasury.
Your: Vote, job, health care, pension, TVs, phone and lives.
They are Hell Bent on:
World Conquest!
And we’re the Fools.
Who will stop them?
The only thing that will stop them is:
Either the money runs out
Or
We are in total ruin.
They go to live in gated Mansion.
Put their likeness on Pennies.
Award themselves:
The Medal of Freedom!
For a Job One!
Well done.

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Good Golly Miss Molly!
Posted by: williameon on Mar 5, 2006 4:28 AM   
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Good Golly
Miss Molly
You sure like Ball.
While these guys are:
Rocking & Rolling!
To and Fro!

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Bush: Always Friendly and Blameless
Posted by: quilldriver on Mar 6, 2006 2:24 AM   
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The Republicans chose a perfect guy as a front. He seems inept, bumbling. He's slippery, like an eel. You can't make anything stick to him.

That's because of that folksy, friendly, benevolent demeanor he has. People like him. My neighbor calls him "our beloved President Bush."

I can't help but wonder: if we got some more realistic images of him circulated - as someone who is doing harm - might it change perceptions?

For instance, if people saw him for the vampire he is, in terms of how he's bankrupting us, would it help the cobwebs to clear from their eyes?

Or am I deluded?

Check out Bush the Vampire . If you want to confront people with the truth of his real identity, he's on a shirt here.

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The educatiopn of Bill Napoli
Posted by: rkzrb on Mar 9, 2006 8:25 AM   
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Let it be known that many people rely heavily on emotions rather than careful thought and consideration to form their opinions. Let it be known tha Senator Bill Napoli may be such a man.

According to Argusleader.com, Mr. Napoli only finished sixth grade and was kicked out of school at age sixteen. Mr. Napoli believes that this lack of education gives him a "unique perspective" on some issues.

Perhaps abortion is one of those issues. His recent comments in the media, show, at least to me, his "unique perspective"...that being emotional reaction rather than thoughtful reasonable discourse. Perhaps if he were to use his emotion to empathize, he would use his brain to come to a different conclusion.

May God Bless Bill Napoli with some wisdom.

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