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Opinions of a Sexpert

By Andi Zeisler, Bitch Magazine. Posted March 11, 2006.


Susie Bright, the godmother of intelligent smut, discusses sex columnists, being the mother of a teenager, and why she misses Bill Clinton.
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Susie Bright was writing about sex way before every men's magazine and college newspaper boasted its own dirty-talking columnist. As an author, pornographer, advice columnist, blogger, and radio-show host, Bright's career combines one part Emily Post, one part Larry Flynt and one part Fran Lebowitz.

Bright was one of the founding editors of On Our Backs, the groundbreaking lesbian porn magazine whose tongue-in-cheek title and subversive photos rendered it, in the '80s, Women's Bookstore Enemy No. 1. Since then, she's written a slew of books on sex, culture, politics and motherhood, and edited a bookstore's worth of smutty-writing collections. There are few folks who've had the kind of front-row seat to our culture's wacky, way-conflicted dealings in sex and politics as Bright, and she's an excellent source of perspective.

Andi Zeisler: In your essay collections Sexwise and "The Sexual State of the Union," you wrote about the hypocrisy of our government meddling in the sex lives of its citizenry. You were one of the first people to talk about politicians in a kind of tongue-in-cheek way as these people whose values are so misaligned with their actual behavior. Do you think it's become more obvious how hypocritical government policy is when it comes to legislating and policing sex?

Susie Bright: One of my favorite fairy tales is "The Emperor's New Clothes." And it seems like, for a long time, puritanism in America has had this very tight class structure that dictates who can be unmasked sexually. I mean, you can always take some poor wanker and make him out to be a dirty old man. But historically, you could never do that with the rich, the protected, the elite. And yet here they were, making the decisions about what everybody else got to read or look at.

I always wanted to make people see that sexual freedom is actually one of the ultimate tests of a real democracy: Do you have the nerve, the courage, to let people educate themselves, make their own decisions about their sex lives? Or are you going to take the mommy-and-daddy-know-best position, where [the government] gets to look at everything, prescreen and then decide what everybody else is going to do?

I think a lot of people misinterpret puritan leadership as being a group of people who want to outlaw all sexual expression. No. They're very interested in looking at it themselves. They want the full range of emotions about everything; they want access to all the esoteric knowledge. But they don't want you to have it, and that's where it becomes so important that sexual speech is the No. 1 suppressed speech in America. Anybody in this restaurant can stand up and say that they wish Bush were dead, or that they'd like to take an ax to Donald Rumsfeld, but when it comes to sexual speech, we are so parochial, so repressed. So as far as I'm concerned, in the recent couple of decades since I've been writing, the unmasking, the closet doors that are being kicked in, like it or not, it's been a heyday for me.

AZ: Has that evolution made you reassess your own ideals?

SS: I was one of those people who could say that the Bill Clinton years were very good to me [laughs] in the sense that I had so much opportunity to write about what I call "lovers' ethics." It was a great opportunity to talk about, How do we do right in sex? And I don't mean do right in terms of the Judeo-Christian idea, but [in terms of] an ethical sexual philosophy that does right by the community and at the same time feeds your soul.

We haven't had that role model from the left wing of American politics, either, because many of them [are] just as puritanical as conservatives. They often feel like -- and a lot of radical feminists felt this way too -- until the revolution comes, keep your legs crossed, because you can't have a genuine sexual feeling under this insane society.

We've talked a bit about Ariel Levy's book, Female Chauvinist Pigs, and the aspects of what I'll call "ambivalent sex" in it -- experiences that look from the outside like exploitation, but are also learning experiences. We allow for learning experiences in every other arena -- we give them that generosity. Nobody says, "Was that school that you went to fabulous? Or was it pure hell?" You say, "Well, it was a mixed bag." And that's OK. So why can't sex be like that too?


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"Tell It Like It Is"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Mar 11, 2006 9:55 AM   
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With nearly everything in american society today being spun and packaged and leveraged for the greatest material reward, the new pornography in America is to be honest and genuine and, to use that phrase from the '60's, to "tell it like it is."

Being real and telling the truth is the greatest danger to a society built on half-truths and outright lies – but it is the only way a true democracy can survive.

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A Mom in Minneapolis
Posted by: jas on Mar 11, 2006 11:35 AM   
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I just visited the Suicide Girls website after reading the alternet article. I agreed with all the references to hypocrisy and the elitist class living double lives and society's Elizabethan Era treatment of sex and sexuality.
But I'm concerned about the self mutilation that these young women are apparently so willing to undergo. And shaving pubic hair -- there are not enough places to go to scratch when the hair grows out!
Youth is a time for questioning and self examination and revolting against the culture, but they don't seem to understand that tatoos and piercings will remain until they're gone from this earth. They're permanent! I'm supposing, also, that these young women are rebelling against society's "exploitation" if you will of women and sex. At its foundation, Suicide Girls is also a form of exploitation; it's just that the SG girls have dyed black hair, black fingernails, and pierced nipples instead of long blonde locks and breast implants. I can't really find any clear distinction between playboy centerfolds and SG girls. I hope someone can help me out here.

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» RE: A Mom in Minneapolis Posted by: AlienSlave
grab-ass feminism
Posted by: lamar on Mar 12, 2006 11:41 AM   
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The only problem I have with the SG girls is that the only talent they have in life is showing their tits. Well done, gothiella, well done. Get an education and maybe we'll talk about respect. Until then, don't be angry if all you are good for is a nice pair. And no, "sexpert" articles are generally neither sexy nor expert. Hooray for grab-ass feminism....

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pretty dull
Posted by: Guy on Mar 12, 2006 1:33 PM   
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This article was generally pretty dull and didn't have much to say, much new anyway. It is funny that they only thing the commentors have found to pick up on is the SG who are only mentioned briefly at the end of the article.

Badger

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Excellent interview
Posted by: klaatukev on Mar 12, 2006 2:34 PM   
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Fantastic interview. It's nice to see someone with an intelligent viewpoint discussing these topics. George Carlin has talked about the differences between far-left and far-right as being like a horseshoe: the methods of both groups are frighteningly similar. For instance, the censoring of pornography is espoused by people on both sides; they merely argue vehemently about the rationale.

I will be looking for Bright's work in the future and will try to do my part to help.

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feminism=sex, sex=feminism
Posted by: T.S. on Mar 12, 2006 7:33 PM   
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Would it be possible for Alternet to provide more stories about feminism that aren't about sex?

If you added every article from feminist magazines Alternet reposts it still wouldn't outnumber the articles from Nerve alone, and almost all of the reprints are about sex, being sexy, sexual fulfillment, porn is feminist, prostitution is feminist, sexy feminism, feminism is sexy, feminists are sexy, sex , sex, sex.

In a world where sexism is pretty much defined as women=sex, it would be really nice if the editors could be more original than to reduce their coverage of feminism to feminism=sex and its minor variant feminism=abortion rights, which is still mostly about sex.

Fuck you, "fuck-me feminism", your navel-gazing, narcissistic days are numbered as women find each other and realize seeking freedom from male oppression feels better than the best sex they ever had. Take your $100 twat toys and $8/ issue Harvard graphyporno and trade them in for real tools of liberation.

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» RE: feminism=sex, sex=feminism Posted by: AlienSlave